On Mon, 18 Jun 2001 01:45, Solver wrote:
As for the permissions, no offence taken. But, you'll be very
surprised to know that I am a sysadmin. Additionally, I often repair
stand alone PCs. My network currently runs W2K, which I hate for
everything except the increased security, but I'll
Subject: Re: [newbie] No-one uses Linux, says Microsoft
On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 01:46, Solver wrote:
No, no Bill's richness means little to me. Perhaps he's right,
only some need to do this.
Of course, I didn't buy Office XP! It's all piracy - I rarely
buy something legally. I know Dragon
On Saturday 16 June 2001 00:35, Richard wrote:
So I bought a PowerEdge 300 server to run on the desk top. It works just fine
and running Linux does not invalidate the service policy on this. It is a
similar price to a lot of the desk top machines. I preferred to install my
own version of
and
BeOS for the first time. It all passes.
Solver
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Subject: RE: [newbie] No-one uses Linux, says Microsoft
If we all
That's odd... because I remember reading some place that Compaq and
DELL both shipped like 15% of their machines a year with a Linux OS,
mainly RedHat. (I don't remember the number, I just tossed 15% in
there for the comment.) I think it came from a RedHat site, so it
may have been publicity
Yes... this is another Micro$HAFT advocate. But we really can't knock
them since we are all... well most of us, are Linux advocates.
But the truth is that Uncle Bill and Microsoft were not the first.
As a matter a fact Gates and Jobs both stole most of there original
code and made it better.
Try Quanta. Comes standard with Mandrake. It does have a WYSIWYG like
interface. I like it because it works pretty well to help teach you
HTML as well. Which I think is a good thing. Give it a try. I've
used it to write basic HTML doc pages for our network.
I used to know
HTML really
Tim Holmes wrote:
Try Quanta. Comes standard with Mandrake. It does have a WYSIWYG like
interface. I like it because it works pretty well to help teach you
HTML as well. Which I think is a good thing. Give it a try. I've
used it to write basic HTML doc pages for our network.
I used
Dell offers Linux already installed but it is RedHat.
Tim Holmes wrote:
That's odd... because I remember reading some place that Compaq and
DELL both shipped like 15% of their machines a year with a Linux OS,
mainly RedHat. (I don't remember the number, I just tossed 15% in
there for the
.
Solver
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To: Solver [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Linux Newbie
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Subject: Re: [newbie] No-one uses Linux, says Microsoft
On Sat, 16 Jun 2001 04
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On Sat, 16 Jun 2001 21:32, Solver wrote:
Just as a note - I wouldn't mind if MS had my password. I would only
mind if they could erase hard
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Subject: Re: [newbie] No-one uses Linux, says Microsoft
On Sat, 16 Jun 2001 04:48, Solver wrote:
I love Microsoft. I respect Bill Gates. Not only they ain't
jennifer wrote:
Thanks, I look forward to your continued support :)
Is it just me or is every one receiving double or quadruple copies of
the identical email?
Roman
On Saturday 16 June 2001 11:46 am, you wrote:
No, no Bill's richness means little to me. Perhaps he's right, only some
need to do this.
Of course, I didn't buy Office XP! It's all piracy - I rarely buy something
legally. I know Dragon is the leader, but haven't seen it at piracy shops.
You
I have found Linux Mandrake to be incredibly user
friendly. I can't think of much more that needs to be
done to create a familiar and simple desktop
environment and almost every office, home and internet
need (gamming lags a little) can be met with the
software bundled with Mandrake 8.0. Pro.
EXACTLY!!! As a real techie I think you have to measure your success
and your knowledge on how well you can trully mess up your workstation!
Because that's when you really start to learn about your system.
If you do something that bad in Windows, you don't have the liberty of
editing a few
Subject: Re: [newbie] No-one uses Linux, says Microsoft
On Sat, 16 Jun 2001 04:48, Solver wrote:
I love Microsoft. I respect Bill Gates. Not only they
ain't my enemies - they are my friends. Yes, I like
Linux, it's enhanced functionality and especially
stability
Frank
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Sent: Saturday, 16 June 2001 10:27 PM
To: Romanator
Cc: Linux Newbie
Subject: Re: [newbie] No-one uses Linux, says Microsoft
I take it you have never worked in an office
environment in software
IBM ViaVoice, which is FAR better than the voice recognition in XP
(IBM and Dragon are the best in the field), is also available for
GNU/Linux.
AAMOF it's included in the Mandrake 8.0 PowerPack.
Bill Gates said that the fact that everyone can recompile the source
code is what he doesn't
Jennifer wrote:
The fact that micro$oft prevents its users from being able to
understand the source code is disconcerning. Users can go to school and
learn everything there is to know about operating the system, but they
will never understand the intimate details of the source. You shouldn't
with extra glucose! (Type 2 diabetes 5/99, d/e/m/motorcycle)
Sage, purple 1998 Honda VT1100C Shadow Spirit
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Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 02:01
Subject: Re: [newbie] No-one uses Linux, says
Roman wrote;
Is it just me or is every one receiving double or quadruple copies of
the identical email?
Roman
I get double and sometimes triple, but never quadruple. What is
confusing to me is that it doesn't seem to be consistent, but is just
with some posts, once in a while in a
On Sat, 16 Jun 2001 03:01:09 -0400, you wrote:
That's odd... because I remember reading some place that Compaq and
DELL both shipped like 15% of their machines a year with a Linux OS,
mainly RedHat. (I don't remember the number, I just tossed 15% in
there for the comment.) I think it came from
On Saturday 16 June 2001 10:15, jennifer wrote:
If you think thtaa micro$oft having your password is bad,
think of this
One company, huge monopoly, solely responsible for the source
code on the worlds business and home computers for the past 20
years
What if they were secretly
pico is part of pine actually. If you check out the man pages for it,
the first few lines normally tell you where the syntax comes from.
Name
pico - simple text editor in the style of the Pine Composer
I don't care much for pico, or pine so I never installed either one of
them. I use
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Subject: Re: [newbie] No-one uses Linux, says Microsoft
On Sat, 16 Jun 2001 04:48, Solver wrote:
I love Microsoft. I respect Bill Gates. Not only they ain't
my enemies - they are my
There have been many rebuttals published to this article all over the
Internet: aboutlinux.com, linuxtoday.com, lwn.net, and even ZDNet
itself. Gartner Dataquest's figures (sponsored by Microsoft) are in
direct contrast to those made by other research companies. IDC, for
example, gives
I was wondering what we can do as Linux users? Do we sit on the
sidelines and do nothing?
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A story from www.theregister.co.uk:
(http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/19662.html)
No one's using Linux, claims Microsoft
By Andrew
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Subject: Re: [newbie] No-one uses Linux, says Microsoft
I was wondering what we can do as Linux users? Do we sit on the
sidelines and do nothing?
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A story from www.theregister.co.uk:
(http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/19662.html
There are several other news sites that also have information on this
review by Gartner. And they all focus on the fact that the review is
sponsored by Microsoft.
I am positive that this is just another attempt from Microsoft to convince
the rest of the world that there is no life outside
On Friday, June 15, 2001 12:07 PM, Paul [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
There are several other news sites that also have information on this
review by Gartner. And they all focus on the fact that the review is
sponsored by Microsoft.
I am positive that this is just another attempt from
Dear List; In response to this latest garbage from Microsoft, and having a
pretty good understanding of their standard FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt)
policy, I can see why you might think that this latest attack on Linux
deserves a response. However, having also attended the LinuxExpo Montreal
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Subject: Re: [newbie] No-one uses Linux, says Microsoft
I bet Microsoft provided a lotta software as a gift for writing these
articles. There will be more to come. Many times the writers must ship
the drafts to Microsoft for approval before it goes to print. However, I
wouldn't get alarmed
The idea of a gift is not uncommon in the media. Often, the
journalist will get to keep the item they are reviewing if they
write something favourable. I heard a few years ago that Sony was
giving away PlayStations to anyone in the media who said something
good about the console, even just in
On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 21:34, Mr S Ganesan wrote:
Windows and MacOS are relying on the fact that once your box is
loaded with it there is nothing to stop them from dictating terms.
In India, the Govt is encouraging Linux in all its departments and
we shall soon see over 50 percent of Govt
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Subject: RE: [newbie] No-one uses Linux, says Microsoft
If we all pipe up and say something, microsoft will probably come to all
our
houses to check for copies of illegal software...
like that old 386 with win3.1 that your
.
Solver
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Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] No-one uses Linux, says Microsoft
There are several other news sites that also have information on this
review by Gartner. And they all focus
on a disk, go to a friend being sure you'll find the same Windows and Word
there. The worst I could imagine is this:
Not every one will have Word, of course. And he might have a different
version of Windows. There are some differences between the versions, but
they don't really impact this
it yet. And I
doubt that I'll be able to even with then next few years. But, believe me
I'm very impatient to do so.
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From: Solver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 1:49 PM
To: Linux Newbie
Subject: Re: [newbie] No-one uses Linux, says Microsoft
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If we all pipe up and say something, microsoft will probably come to all
our
houses to check for copies of illegal software...
like that old 386
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Subject: Re: [newbie] No-one uses Linux, says Microsoft
I bet Microsoft provided a lotta software as a gift for writing these
articles. There will be more to come. Many times
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From: Romanator
Sent: Fri 6/15/2001 6:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Solver
Subject: Re: [newbie] No-one uses Linux, says Microsoft
You're looking through rose colored glasses. I think you better
look
On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:35:31 -0600, you wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, you wrote:
That is now changing with some of the big computer companies, including
Dell. They offer the option to have Linux or Windows installed.
Dell does offer Linux or windows on their server line, nut not on desktops or
Solver wrote:
An average, or lower, user, assuming he has got kowledge of English, can
install Windows without trouble, easily install apps under it, click start,
point to programs and Microsoft Word.
This kind of statement is one of the things that scares off potential Linux
If you think Linux is great now, wait till the Office tools get
improved, additional vidio card drivers and improved kernel are added.
I'll give it 2 - 5 years. It'll be good-bye Microsoft for me...That's
the only reason I'm hanging on to MS ,is that I still need MSWord,
Excel, a certain
Check out IBM's Homepage Builder
(http://www-4.ibm.com/software/webservers/hpbuilder/linux/index.html)
and Amaya (http://www.w3.org/Amaya/). They complement each other well.
I'm not sure whether IBM's Homepage Builder supports XFree 4 yet -- I
tried it a little while ago and it hosed my X
the horizon.
Let's face it, MS simply isn't used to having a competitor in its territory
and they are responding accordingly!
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Subj: Re: [newbie] No-one uses Linux, says Microsoft
Date: 6/15/2001 8:00:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lanman)
Sender
Because it's tax deductible.
Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
The idea of a gift is not uncommon in the media. Often, the
journalist will get to keep the item they are reviewing if they
write something favourable. I heard a few years ago that Sony was
giving away PlayStations to anyone in the
That is now changing with some of the big computer companies, including
Dell. They offer the option to have Linux or Windows installed.
Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
There have been many rebuttals published to this article all over the
Internet: aboutlinux.com, linuxtoday.com, lwn.net, and even
Windows and MacOS are relying on the fact that once your box is loaded
with it there is nothing to stop them from dictating terms. In India, the
Govt is encouraging Linux in all its departments and we shall soon see
over 50 percent of Govt machines using Linux!!!
--
S.Ganesan
Senior Scientist
You know another thing that I find a bit irritating is that sometimes the
linux folks will ignore an actually good innoviation because it came from MS
instead of just accepting that, hey, that was a pretty neat idea. And
instead, they will try do think up a variation that doesn't quite work...
On Sat, 16 Jun 2001 04:48, Solver wrote:
I love Microsoft. I respect Bill Gates. Not only they ain't my
enemies - they are my friends. Yes, I like Linux, it's enhanced
functionality and especially stability, but Microsoft were the first
to do it.
Since when was Windows stable? And even if
If you look at http://www.linux-mandrake.com you will see a link to a
donation page. This is a much better way to give money since
MandrakeSoft will get ALL of it. If you buy a boxed set, some money
goes to the retailer, some to the publisher, some to the
manufacturers, etc.
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