"Webb, Brian (Corp)" wrote on 01/02/2009 05:25:25
PM:
> There were several sessions on security at VMWorld this past
> year and the people leading those sessions would definitely say
> there are security issues that come about from using
> virtualization. In some ways the security picture get
Oh, I just thought you were happy to see me
...Tim
From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 2:56 PM
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One thing about a VM vs a physical server - a LOT easier to walk out the
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From: Webb, Brian (Corp) [mailto:brian.w...@teldta.com]
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There were seve
the "keys to the
kingdom"
-Brian
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
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Most people have said "no" to
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From: S Conn. [mailto:sysadminli...@gmail.com]
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On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Ken Schaefer wrote:
> -Original Message-
> From: S Conn. [mailto:sy
hat environment.
Just my $0.02.
From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com]
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From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Subject: RE: Virtualization
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Ken Schaefer wrote:
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> From: S Conn. [mailto:sysadminli...@gmail.com]
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>
>> I don't see a lot of difference here between virtual environment vs physical.
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No, you don
f the Governator has his way...
Joe Heaton
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No, you don't that type of experience.
But when you have 1000 IT personnel, they can't all be AD people, or even
domain admins.
I did some AD/GPO/WSUS troubleshooting f
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On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 5:33 AM, Ken Schaefer wrote:
>> Most people have said "no" to question #2.
>>
>> I would say that there is a def
e, and expertise with Windows, Unix, mainframes, every desktop OS
known to man, etc...
Joe Heaton
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From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 6:14 AM
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I work
ws, Unix,
mainframes, every desktop OS known to man, etc...
Joe Heaton
Employment Training Panel
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 6:14 AM
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I work for Avanade -
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 5:33 AM, Ken Schaefer wrote:
> Most people have said "no" to question #2.
>
>
>
> I would say that there is a definite impact. Your virtualisation team are
> pretty much now an additional "god" in the organisation. For smaller shops
> this isn't an issue. For bigger shops,
nesday, 31 December 2008 12:31 AM
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That's an interesting point. Have you actually seen this in practice? What I
mean is, in every shop I've been in, the virtualization group is composed of
the same people w
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Most people have said "no" to question #2.
I would say that there i
Good point, Ken. Thanks for chiming in...
Shook
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
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Most people have said "no" to question #2.
I would say
trol
are important, then this is another layer of people who have significant
privileges, who must be worked into your change control process.
Cheers
Ken
From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 December 2008 2:57 AM
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> Correct but I was only thinking of the sever licenses. I am in an EDU
> environment where CALs are "free" under our agreement with Microsoft so I
> frequeny forget about this and you caught me in a senior moment.
:) No problem. I just wanted to clear that up because in our situation we
a
Correct but I was only thinking of the sever licenses. I am in an EDU
environment where CALs are "free" under our agreement with Microsoft so I
frequeny forget about this and you caught me in a senior moment.
Jon
On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Andy Ognenoff wrote:
> > If you use Hyper-V and
As far as MS goes, you do get a break on licensing since the allow you to
license by the socket.
> Great responses so far! You've all given me even more to think about.
>
>
>
> A few other questions:
>
>
>
> 1. From a DR perspective, or perhaps just for rebalancing the load
> on a
>A. Yes. The use rights apply regardless of the virtualization product being
>used. However, any non-Microsoft software virtualization technologies are
>not supported by Microsoft.
And to clarify the support aspect of that statement, they are saying they
will not support the actual 3rd party virtu
On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Andy Shook wrote:
> 1. As long as the resources are available for the VM, then
> transparent. I know in the past that processors had to be in the same
> family as well as the same brand for Vmotion but I heard that this has
> changed with (ESX) update 3. I
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1) With VMotion it's tranparent and the VM doesn't miss a beat
2) No that I've seen
3) That's not a simple question to answer, it depends on the network
load of the VMs. If you're consolidating some infrequently-used machines
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for #3
With ESX server you can do both or whatever you want. If you have
enough physical nic's you can dedicate a nic to each VM if you want or
if you VM will have hig
> If you use Hyper-V and purchase the Enterprise license you get one
> Physical machine license and 4 VM licenses, Data Center gets even better
> but with VMware you get no licenses.
That is not correct. MS doesnt differentiate between an MS hypervisor and
any other when it comes to the virtual
for #3
With ESX server you can do both or whatever you want. If you have
enough physical nic's you can dedicate a nic to each VM if you want or
if you VM will have high utilization.
Or you can hsre one nic across multiple VM's...
Phil
On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Roger Wright wrote:
> Great
ight [mailto:rwri...@evatone.com]
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Great responses so far! You've all given me even more to think about.
A few other questions:
1. From a DR perspe
Shook
From: Roger Wright [mailto:rwri...@evatone.com]
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 10:32 AM
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Great responses so far! You've all given me even more to think about.
A few other questions:
1. From a DR
That would depend on which of the host systems you choose and how much money
you want to spend.
Not really but again it does depend on the host system. I would prefer to
have the host outside the domain so that it is not looking for the domain on
booting. VMware and Hyper-V support this.
Shared
1) With VMotion it's tranparent and the VM doesn't miss a beat
2) No that I've seen
3) That's not a simple question to answer, it depends on the network
load of the VMs. If you're consolidating some infrequently-used machines
then shared NICs aren't a big deal, but if you're going to virtualize a
Great responses so far! You've all given me even more to think about.
A few other questions:
1. From a DR perspective, or perhaps just for rebalancing the load
on a host machine, how does moving from one host to another with
different HW impact the VM, or is it transparent?
2.
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