On 07/22/10 14:56, Jason wrote:
I suspect they would be quite disappointed (to put it mildly) if there
is no way to do something similar (at least an installer that can run
in an older version to lay down the bits in unused space).
The following worked for me to migrate development build
On 07/23/10 14:23, Ian Collins wrote:
I guess that's with an older or same ZFS version not newer in order to
be able to zfs send the filesystem. It could work for recent Solaris 10
updates as well, assuming there's another update with a zfs upgrade.
When I did this I migrated systems from
On 07/23/10 15:28, Ian Collins wrote:
That's right, but I don't think you can specify the zfs or zpool version
to the installer (an RFE maybe?) so the root pool will always be the
latest version.
you should be able to create an empty BE in a down-rev pool (with pkg
image-create, as discussed
On 05/02/10 17:26, Alan Hargreaves wrote:
There were some issues with the email servers over the weekend.
That's a major understatement.
If you sent an oracle employee mail recently (since, oh, friday) and
have no evidence the employee received it, you might want to re-send it now.
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 13:58 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yep, I tried to configure a recent mplayer its configure has now
deteriorated to requiring GNU grep (grep -q, what does that mean?)
grep -q is accepted by /usr/xpg4/bin/grep. According to the precedent
set by PSARC 2005/683, it's a
On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 10:24 -0600, Shawn Walker wrote:
Admittedly, I am somewhat fuzzy on what software is supposed to do if
it needs a specific version of a utility.
It should set PATH to reflect the environment it expects.
For example, if a configure script decides that it wants to and
On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 12:40 -0700, John Plocher wrote:
One of my comments on the wiki definition was along the lines of:
We could, as a starting place for defining compatibility,
simply assert that there is a baseline (installer and
a set of versioned packages; a recipe, if
On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 13:16 -0400, Ian Murdock wrote:
I don't even know where to begin.
You should start with the choice of name.
Names are very important.
Pick a new one that properly communicates this release's status as an
experimental prototype produced by a subset of the community
On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 12:55 -0500, Sara Dornsife wrote:
It's all about the name. Back away from OpenSolaris Developer Preview
and this nightmare will end.
And then what? I hope that doesn't sound facetious, I'm really asking
what you see as next steps.
I think those steps include:
1)
On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 13:06 -0500, Sara Dornsife wrote:
As members
of our community's elected body have made exhaustively clear, there is
a consensus that a single OpenSolaris-derived distribution -- even one
emanating from Sun -- should not have exclusive use of the name
OpenSolaris.
On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 16:29 -0400, McDonald, Kyle wrote:
This allows the Kernel banner and everything up to:
Reading ZFS config: done.
To come out properly, but after that the serialline speed drops back to
9600.
The baud rate at that point is set by console login through ttydefs.
you
I just started getting bounces saying:
Your mail to 'opensolaris-discuss' with the subject
Re: [ogb-discuss] [indiana-discuss] [osol-discuss] I'm sorry, but
I just don't get it
Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.
The reason it is being held:
Too many
On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 15:41 -0500, Sara Dornsife wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That is not the argument, and you know it. The argument is that no single
project is allowed to take the OpenSolaris name and claim that it owns it.
If no single project is allowed to take the
On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 15:13 +, Simon Phipps wrote:
That's a clear, concrete proposal for how we can move forward.
Sounds a device calculated to lead to an early no vote to me -
In the absence of a policy, it's premature for sun to continue
distributing something calling itself the
On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 09:37 -0700, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
Joerg Schilling wrote:
I remember that we did aggree ~ 2.5 years ago, that Sun would not call a
distro OpenSolaris.
I don't know who would have made that agreement, but like all
software projects, nothing is ever permanently
On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 21:12 -0700, John Plocher wrote:
I am telling another $foo distro maker that all the $foo distros
are either compatible, derivative or incompatible $foo distross,
as defined by the OpenSolaris community. In addition, the OpenSolaris
community itself produces a distro
On Tue, 2007-09-18 at 16:48 -0500, Shawn Walker wrote:
Right, and one would think that a kernel and its components are
usually part of the OS :)
Solaris provides a documented and generally stable in-kernel ABI, the
DDI, to permit 3rd party device drivers not part of the OS
distribution to be
On Wed, 2007-09-19 at 21:33 +0200, Martin Bochnig wrote:
I'm not proposing a speech topic.
Just bringing a real world issue into light: No ON tree older than b60
seems to be available all over the world, from whatever mirror.
I'm specifically looking for b52 (DRM related).
% cd
On Wed, 2007-08-22 at 20:23 +0100, Frank Hofmann wrote:
Now how to find out whether a medium doesn't allow writes ... another
problem, but again, workaround would be to simply mount all multiple
detections - but all readonly.
That sounds like the right answer if the disk slices overlap
On Sat, 2007-08-11 at 23:00 +0330, Mehdi Sarmadi wrote:
I'm just wondering if SynCookies are available for Solaris 10 and How
to enable it.
syn cookies violate the TCP spec; specifically, they allow a
single-packet loss during connection establishment to hang the
connection for those protocols
On Sun, 2007-08-12 at 00:07 +0330, Mehdi Sarmadi wrote:
So, how to control(enable/disable) SynFlood Protection? Im looking for
administration tool/system variable or sth
it's on by default.
why would anyone want to run a system with syn-flood defenses disabled?
(honest question. we
On Fri, 2007-08-10 at 12:59 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote:
I am not sure about copyright laws in less free countries, but in
Germany/Europe,
there is something called Recht auf das wissenschaftliche Kleinzitat.
You may quote other people's work _without_ ever asking them for permission
in
On Tue, 2007-07-24 at 22:20 -0700, Hugh McIntyre wrote:
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104STORY=/www/story/07-24-2007/0004631109EDATE=
In answer to the questions about backup power, obviously they have UPS
and generators (as the press release says...).
There is more
On Thu, 2007-06-14 at 06:42 -0700, mmkk wrote:
1) Why do we have to use inverse bits? Generally speaking,
In which case do we have to use inverse bits?
I'm not familiar with details about how this is used in practice but my
understanding is that inverse bits are typically used to encode
On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 13:23 +0100, Ceri Davies wrote:
Am I correct in my interpretation that, had I signed this agreement,
that would include this email? Does mail on an OpenSolaris mailing list
constitute a submission to a Project?
I'm not a lawyer, but ...
I'd think that the act of
On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 22:16 -0800, Shawn Walker wrote:
+1, except that the project should be one that is for all items listed on the
no_source page.
I prefer to see more focussed projects.
The set of people interested in working on a replacement libc_i18n
likely does not intersect much with
On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 07:49 -0800, Shawn Walker wrote:
I think what's most frustrating about the closed_bins is that we don't
know *why* in some cases. It would be helpful if there were a status
list for the closed_bins that indicated what items would never be
available (due to 3rd party or
On Tue, 2006-12-19 at 11:40 -0800, ovidiu nastai wrote:
I noticed a different address space layout for an app (i.e. vi) on
different platforms (see below). is ELF allowing for what I notice on
T1000/T2000 platforms (.text segment split) and 2 extra anon pages?
may I know the rationale
On Wed, 2006-11-29 at 15:58 -0500, Richard Lowe wrote:
Any CR maybe relevant, be it old, closed, or whatever else. A method
to refine a search to within a date range would be good, hiding all CRs
older than a set date would be terrible.
Absolutely; bugs must never be hidden simply because
On Mon, 2006-06-26 at 11:14, John Weekley wrote:
On Mon, 2006-06-26 at 16:11 +0100, Peter Tribble wrote:
I've just installed SXCR, build 42a, on a SunBlade 2000.
Now, nslookup doesn't work. By not work, I mean that if
you look up an address it (almost all the time) goes into
a tight
On Thu, 2006-05-18 at 13:39, Larry Becke wrote:
I would still consider it to be a sub-process change to the
environment (in this case the visual environment) and I would NOT want
it to come back to the parent process.
we're not talking about a window size which is under the control of an
app,
On Tue, 2006-05-02 at 01:50, Alan DuBoff wrote:
If you could somehow convince me that cross-posted messages are good, I might
agree.;-)
if you could convince me that discussions never need to cross predefined
cubbyhole boundaries and that we could get all the boundaries right in
advance I
On Mon, 2006-05-01 at 19:29, Andrei Dorofeev wrote:
What is the reason other people want to remove them?
- deals poorly with crossposting -- you get multiple tags in random
orders when threads hop lists.
- consumes precious screen real estate in certain mailer views (when
you sort lists by
On Mon, 2006-05-01 at 20:39, Roland Mainz wrote:
The tagging is enabled by default in the mailman configuation
intentionally. Think about it: If it is so bad - why did the mailman
people turn it on by default then ?
if it's so good, why do many lists I'm subscribed to run without subject
On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 19:40, Sarah Jelinek wrote:
The heuristic of the vfstab being 'in use' could be improved upon
however, which I believe is Daniel's main concern. The idea is that
entries in /etc/vfstab are possibly in use, and designed to help users
not step on filesystems that may
On Tue, 2006-04-25 at 06:24, Joerg Schilling wrote:
Bill Sommerfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Solaris development process more or less rejects the notion of
trusted developers.
...
We emphasize control over *what* goes in, not *who* makes the change.
How do you like to do
On Fri, 2006-04-14 at 07:41, Dennis Clarke wrote:
Have there been exceptions? Absolutely. No one ever questioned Eric
Boutilier or Torrey McMahon ...
You might not question them, but that never stopped us :-)
But some measures, as I am sure you will agree, need to be
enforced to ensure
On Fri, 2006-04-14 at 13:04, Eric Enright wrote:
That would work for source code, but would it for machine code? How
could one peer review a binary package for anything other than does
what it says? Going with the example Dennis gave earlier, if someone
introduced a back door into something,
On Fri, 2006-04-14 at 13:18, Keith M Wesolowski wrote:
While it's
still difficult to trust that person/machine, at least you reduce the
problem from trusting N entities to trusting 1 (or some small number
of cooperating but mutually suspicious individuals).
It's a bit better than that -- with
On Fri, 2006-04-14 at 13:15, Eric Boutilier wrote:
Yeah but tell that to the original owner of the infamous severed
fingers... :)
Well, new developers start out with a neutral reputation. It can go up,
or it can go down.
If you have a proven track record of introducing brokenness (and
On Sun, 2006-04-02 at 06:03, Joerg Schilling wrote:
There is a reason: This cannot be compiled anymore on HP-UX using the bundled
compiler.
externally-maintained code which is merely imported as-is with minimal
changes into ON does not have to comply with cstyle, as this would get
in the way
On Fri, 2005-10-28 at 04:29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But I don't think there's any parallel make which actually works:
dmake also has the combinatory explosion issue of allowing a potential
of NxN jobs running rather than just N.
no, it's worse than that. N^D, where D is the subtree depth.
On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 12:58, Eric Schrock wrote:
There is little expectation that anyone will be able to fill a ZFS
filesystem, ever[2]. There is reasonable expectation, however, that in
the next 10-20 years we will pass the 64-bit limit for some use cases.
and, unless my math is off by a few
On Wed, 2005-10-05 at 14:08, Mike Kupfer wrote:
Cyril == Cyril Plisko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Cyril is there any problem mentioning SVN repo at svn.genunix.org on
Cyril opensolaris download page ? I believe it will not do any harm to
Cyril the project.
I don't see any issues. Is there
On Sat, 2005-09-03 at 21:55, Felix Schulte wrote:
On 9/4/05, James Dickens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
some day i will remember to click reply all not just reply :-)
Blame the list admin. The lists here are configured the wrong way.
Wrong is far too strong a word to use here. There is nothing
On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 11:12, Joerg Schilling wrote:
Making UFS dual endian would not be really hard.
and it's been done to a cousin of the Solaris UFS code (take a look at
NetBSD; look through their ufs/ffs and fsck code for FFS_EI ifdefs).
To port that over to solaris, additional work would
On Mon, 2005-08-29 at 17:27, Mike Kupfer wrote:
Cyril http://svn.genunix.org/repos/ doing exactly that - all the source
Cyril drops are there.
Are the files available for download via a Subversion client? Or is
just the web interface available?
It looks like svn.genunix.org is serving the
On Thu, 2005-08-25 at 12:37, Gavin Maltby wrote:
On 08/25/05 17:34, Felix Schulte wrote:
On 8/25/05, Gavin Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And how is this related to the mythical Sun Fire-Link
product?
Not that mythical - you used to be able to order it and I know
of one site with I
On Sat, 2005-07-30 at 19:11, John Plocher wrote:
In as much as we can follow Path 1 or 2A, the relationship between
Solaris and OpenSolaris is easy. Obviously, this includes
the forwards compatibility with Solaris.Future as well as that
of Solaris.Historical and other OpenSolaris derivatives.
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 06:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No; I don't think that, though I'd expect much of the unstable
work not to happen on OpenSolaris .org
actually, I'd hope that opensolaris.org and/or genunix.org would provide
some way to publish/host work-in-progress (distinct from stuff
On Thu, 2005-07-28 at 09:34, Markus Moeller wrote:
If I use
cc -I/usr/share/src/uts/common -D_KERNEL I find all included header files.
What is the difference/issue if I use -D_KERNEL ?
The header file you found is really only for the kernel-space gssapi
code. it's not likely to be useful
On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 04:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am surprised that ksh88 isn't part of the ATT deal
As was I.
However, I was recently reminded that there's a pdksh which is a ksh88
clone (with a few admitted incompatibilities).
It might be less effort to fix those bugs in pdksh than
On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 08:43, Joerg Schilling wrote:
We have either _no_ ksh in OpenSolaris or we have ksh93.
or we have pdksh, which is a lot closer to ksh88.
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On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 15:30, Roy T. Fielding wrote:
What exactly is blocking us from creating a directory containing ksh93 code
Nothing. We should probably import ksh93 as ksh93 sooner rather than
later.
and making it the current ksh for OpenSolaris?
One of the goals for opensolaris is
On Wed, 2005-07-20 at 20:19, Sunil wrote:
Thats what the SUNWmysqlS package is for, it is
is there a rationale behind such names? I mean why not 'mysql', which is a
nice name
given by the writer of the source of pkg? what is this company ticker concept
useful for?
there is no central
On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 19:24, Bob Palowoda wrote:
Something like 'appcert' minus the interpretation of the private interfaces
of OpenSolaris. That is kind of a brain twister what private interfaces mean
in OpenSolaris.
Not really.
Private has never meant Secret. It's always meant Subject
On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 20:40, John Martinez wrote:
Am I the only one that doesn't like the --something-or-other options
of GNU related software? Please don't do this to Solaris!
A couple years ago we had a very long, very painful discussion about
this topic under the name of CLIP.
Opinions on
On Wed, 2005-07-13 at 11:09, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
somehow I think the spot around the south end of
San Francisco Bay will soon be overwritten with too many names to
read for the OpenSolaris version. (Kind of like Europe is in your
GNOME map right now.)
other projects have solved this
On Tue, 2005-07-12 at 14:47, Steve Logue wrote:
It appears that all of the I/O time is being mistakenly
reported in the sys category instead.
no, it's being reported in the idle time. iowait was always a funny
name for cpu idle, but there's outstanding disk i/o.
it's now reported as zero in
On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 15:43, Eric Boutilier wrote:
- A big strike against deb and portage (for Solaris/OpenSolaris) is
that no work's been done yet.
- A big strike against Solaris packaging is it's not open-source yet.
- A big point in favor of Solaris packaging is compatibiltiy with
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