On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 04:34:05PM +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
> Of course - the OECD does not make any other representation about it.
> But I'm sure you can find the rest of the data if you spend enough time
> looking for it.
I looked but could not realy find usefull info. :-(
> > e.g. What if Bel
houghi wrote:
> On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 07:06:46PM +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
>> Yep, sorry, I shold have added it:
>>
http://www.oecd.org/document/16/0,2340,en_2649_34225_35526608_1_1_1_1,00.html
>
> Unfortunatly no comparison to how many dialup users there are. Also no
> comparison to actual conn
On Wednesday 17 May 2006 00:37, houghi wrote:
> On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 12:26:46AM -0400, Carl Hartung wrote:
> > Houghi, with all due respect this bickering is unbecoming and boring.
> > Please stop.
>
> So now I am the bad guy?
No, of course not. Don't be defensive. I'm just asking you to refrai
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 12:26:46AM -0400, Carl Hartung wrote:
> Houghi, with all due respect this bickering is unbecoming and boring. Please
> stop.
So now I am the bad guy?
houghi
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On Wednesday 17 May 2006 00:12, houghi wrote:
> I can go only by what you tell me. If you tel me you only looked at the
> 9.3 and not at the 10.0 and/or 10.1 then I can only asume you did not look
> there. Why would you not tell it if you looked there?
Houghi, with all due respect this bickering i
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 02:21:59AM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> > If I see something like that, I file a bugreport.
>
> But I don't :-P
Pity. and the smiley does not help there.
> > It does not alter what you said. However what you said makes no sence. You
> > could also have said that the DVD w
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 02:13:42AM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> > How interested are you all in this subject if you can't even bother to
> > look it up?
>
> You think I didn't? I did, in fact... the admin book of 9.3 (the last one
> that was printed) has what I copied above, as I said. And the re
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The Tuesday 2006-05-16 at 18:39 +0200, houghi wrote:
> On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 04:33:32PM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> > By the way, at least one of the installation screens of RC1..3 included
> > the SuSE logo. I will not say which, of course. :-P
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The Tuesday 2006-05-16 at 18:35 +0200, houghi wrote:
> On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 04:47:53PM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> > > I didn't read neither the licence of suse books. are they print free?
> >
> > For personal use, I'm sure they are. The 9.3 edi
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 04:59:45PM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> > By the way, at least one of the installation screens of RC1..3 included
> > the SuSE logo. I will not say which, of course. :-P
>
> Ejem!
>
> ./CD1/suse/i586/i4l-base-2006.2.28-8.i586.rpm:-rwxr-xr-x1 root
> root
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 04:33:32PM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> By the way, at least one of the installation screens of RC1..3 included
> the SuSE logo. I will not say which, of course. :-P
If I see something like that, I file a bugreport.
> > > > 7) Because they sold more Upgrades then Full ve
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 04:47:53PM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> > I didn't read neither the licence of suse books. are they print free?
>
> For personal use, I'm sure they are. The 9.3 edition I have in my lap says
> "this publication is the intellectual property of Novell Inc". "Its
> content's
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The Tuesday 2006-05-16 at 16:33 +0200, I wrote:
> > So even though you don't care about their wishes to be called SUSE,
> > because that is what they are called, they should care about your wishes>
>
> Didn't you see the smiley? :-PPP
>
>
> By the
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The Tuesday 2006-05-16 at 14:49 +0200, jdd wrote:
> Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
> > > Don't forget to include a DVD and perhaps even MPlayer and libdvdcss
> > > and
> > > other multimedia things.
> >
> >
> > You know that is not possible.
>
> with a bo
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The Tuesday 2006-05-16 at 14:58 +0200, houghi wrote:
> > > 1) Because SuSE does not exist anymore. It is SUSE
> >
> > I don't care :-P
>
> So even though you don't care about their wishes to be called SUSE,
> because that is what they are called, t
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 01:46:07PM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
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> The Tuesday 2006-05-16 at 12:45 +0200, houghi wrote:
>
> > > Probably. Then, why not the one made by SuSE?
> >
> > 1) Because SuSE does not exist anymore. It is SUSE
>
> I don'
Carlos E. R. wrote:
Don't forget to include a DVD and perhaps even MPlayer and libdvdcss and
other multimedia things.
You know that is not possible.
with a book it migh be possible (sufffice to buy the rights :-)
I didn't read neither the licence of suse books. are they
print free?
I re
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The Tuesday 2006-05-16 at 12:45 +0200, houghi wrote:
> > Probably. Then, why not the one made by SuSE?
>
> 1) Because SuSE does not exist anymore. It is SUSE
I don't care :-P
> 7) Because they sold more Upgrades then Full versions and guessed it w
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 01:29:09PM +0200, jdd wrote:
> Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
> >Almost the same books you see in ...inst-source/docu/en, are translated to
> >several languages. I don't know which is now the "admin" book, it might be
> >the "reference_en.pdf", and it is translated to Spanish and
Carlos E. R. wrote:
Almost the same books you see in ...inst-source/docu/en, are translated to
several languages. I don't know which is now the "admin" book, it might be
the "reference_en.pdf", and it is translated to Spanish and French, at
least. So the translation cost has been invested alre
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 12:30:07PM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> So the translation cost has been invested already... why not sell
> the book and try make some money out of it?
Because it is not worth the trouble.
houghi
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On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 12:21:52PM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> The Tuesday 2006-05-16 at 07:23 +0200, houghi wrote:
> > On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 01:38:57AM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> > > Well... perhaps. But they could sell instead the book. Even a book with a
> > > DVD, or with a magazine that
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 06:11:19AM +0200, jdd wrote:
> Peter Flodin wrote:
>
> >SUSE Linux needs to compete with Windows which comes bundled with most
> >people's machine (the cost is hidden).
>
> tha windows admin book is wonderfull, isn't it?
Nice one. :-)
houghi
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The Tuesday 2006-05-16 at 07:17 +0200, houghi wrote:
> On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 12:13:52AM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> > > Market share. Spread SUSE Linux, grow the community,
> >
> > IMO, they would get more of that with the admin book included. M
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The Tuesday 2006-05-16 at 06:04 +0200, jdd wrote:
> > IMO, they would get more of that with the admin book included. More sales
> > the better. This way, they will get mostly firstimers (repeaters will
> > download) - and firstimers need manuals.
>
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The Tuesday 2006-05-16 at 07:23 +0200, houghi wrote:
> On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 01:38:57AM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> > Well... perhaps. But they could sell instead the book. Even a book with a
> > DVD, or with a magazine that includes the DVD :-p
On Mon, 2006-05-15 at 19:06 +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
> houghi wrote:
>
> > On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 06:46:20PM +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
> >> Actually, according to the OECD (2005), the ADSL penetration (#ADSL
> >> subscribers per 100 inhabitants) in France is 11.9 vs. e.g. 11 in
> >> Belgium. The
Peter Flodin wrote:
SUSE Linux needs to compete with Windows which comes bundled with most
people's machine (the cost is hidden).
tha windows admin book is wonderfull, isn't it?
jdd (kidding)
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Carlos E. R. wrote:
IMO, they would get more of that with the admin book included. More sales
the better. This way, they will get mostly firstimers (repeaters will
download) - and firstimers need manuals.
and the admin book could be in english.
translation cost are very high (and they need p
Carlos E. R. wrote:
They could sell it as a book with some software included ;-)
and that is what was SUSE Linux before: a very good book
with some disks...
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Peter Flodin wrote:
> On 5/16/06, Pascal Bleser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Right. I even think it's a good concept.
>> Mostly because it is available as a free download (I guess), SUSE 10.0
>> has had a huge gain. At least the Packman download stats
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 01:38:57AM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> Well... perhaps. But they could sell instead the book. Even a book with a
> DVD, or with a magazine that includes the DVD :-p
There are plenty of books you can buy. Some of them are also with SUSE CD.
houghi
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On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 10:28:34AM +1000, Peter Flodin wrote:
> SUSE Linux needs to compete with Windows which comes bundled with most
> people's machine (the cost is hidden). It needs to compete with other
> distros such as Ubuntu, which will ship you printed CDs for free, and
> provide 3 years of
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 12:13:52AM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> > Market share. Spread SUSE Linux, grow the community,
>
> IMO, they would get more of that with the admin book included. More sales
> the better. This way, they will get mostly firstimers (repeaters will
> download) - and firstime
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 07:06:46PM +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
> Yep, sorry, I shold have added it:
>
> http://www.oecd.org/document/16/0,2340,en_2649_34225_35526608_1_1_1_1,00.html
Unfortunatly no comparison to how many dialup users there are. Also no
comparison to actual connected people. So for
On 5/16/06, Pascal Bleser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Right. I even think it's a good concept.
Mostly because it is available as a free download (I guess), SUSE 10.0
has had a huge gain. At least the Packman download stats have tripled
since 10.0 has been released.
The strategy is quite clear. S
Hi,
On Tue, 16 May 2006, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Tuesday 2006-05-16 at 00:34 +0200, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
In my guess the current Novell Linux strategy is "the more publicity the
better". And indeed they give away their good work for nothing currently, so
there is only a small market for
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The Tuesday 2006-05-16 at 00:34 +0200, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
> In my guess the current Novell Linux strategy is "the more publicity the
> better". And indeed they give away their good work for nothing currently, so
> there is only a small market
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Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, 16 May 2006, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> The Monday 2006-05-15 at 23:50 +0200, Pascal Bleser wrote:
>
But... what is the point in producing a box in a way that will have
less
sales? I must be dum
Hi,
On Tue, 16 May 2006, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Monday 2006-05-15 at 23:50 +0200, Pascal Bleser wrote:
But... what is the point in producing a box in a way that will have less
sales? I must be dumb, I don't see it.
Market share. Spread SUSE Linux, grow the community,
IMO, they would get
Hi,
On Tue, 16 May 2006, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Monday 2006-05-15 at 23:49 +0200, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
But... what is the point in producing a box in a way that will have less
sales? I must be dumb, I don't see it.
Reduce costs, for a so thought "not much profit" part.
But if they
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The Monday 2006-05-15 at 23:50 +0200, Pascal Bleser wrote:
> > But... what is the point in producing a box in a way that will have less
> > sales? I must be dumb, I don't see it.
>
> Market share. Spread SUSE Linux, grow the community,
IMO, they w
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The Monday 2006-05-15 at 23:49 +0200, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
> > But... what is the point in producing a box in a way that will have less
> > sales? I must be dumb, I don't see it.
>
> Reduce costs, for a so thought "not much profit" part.
But
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The Monday 2006-05-15 at 18:19 +0200, houghi wrote:
...
> > * direct users to the LUGs, most have power users that can
> > make disks for friends (solution most used here)
>
> Not realy an option for many people. Best way is to have a friend downl
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Carlos E. R. wrote:
> The Monday 2006-05-15 at 16:50 +0200, houghi wrote:
> ...
>>> The decision makers knew that there would be a drop in sales. It was less
>>> then anticipated for 10.0. You not selling the box is not a real thread as
>>> the box is
Hi,
On Mon, 15 May 2006, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Monday 2006-05-15 at 16:50 +0200, houghi wrote:
...
The decision makers knew that there would be a drop in sales. It was less
then anticipated for 10.0. You not selling the box is not a real thread as
the box is not a money maker for Novell.
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The Monday 2006-05-15 at 16:50 +0200, houghi wrote:
...
> The decision makers knew that there would be a drop in sales. It was less
> then anticipated for 10.0. You not selling the box is not a real thread as
> the box is not a money maker for Novell
On Mon, 2006-05-15 at 18:19 +0200, houghi wrote:
> On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 03:54:01PM +0200, jdd wrote:
> > * as I said, send 1 source dvd for 10 boxes to dealers or at
> > least brokers. cheap and at hand for the user.
>
> 1 in 10? Also these then need to be sold and thus packaged and so on.
>
houghi wrote:
> On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 06:46:20PM +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
>> Actually, according to the OECD (2005), the ADSL penetration (#ADSL
>> subscribers per 100 inhabitants) in France is 11.9 vs. e.g. 11 in
>> Belgium. The top5 in total broadband penetration was Korea,
>> Netherlands, De
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 06:46:20PM +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
> Actually, according to the OECD (2005), the ADSL penetration (#ADSL
> subscribers per 100 inhabitants) in France is 11.9 vs. e.g. 11 in
> Belgium. The top5 in total broadband penetration was Korea,
> Netherlands, Denmark, Iceland and Sw
jdd wrote:
>> Belgium's 75% availability is pretty low - even the UK reached 90%
>> about two years ago. I did say "available to", _not_ "in use by".
>
> France is far from this. I have many friends with phone
> modem or ISDN.
Actually, according to the OECD (2005), the ADSL penetration (#ADSL
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 06:23:51PM +0200, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, 15 May 2006, houghi wrote:
>
> >The main exception is perhaps the kernel source. Put the in the boxed set
> >and people with slow downloads already have that biggest part that they
> >might need. People who are
Hi,
On Mon, 15 May 2006, houghi wrote:
The main exception is perhaps the kernel source. Put the in the boxed set
and people with slow downloads already have that biggest part that they
might need. People who are willing to download the ISO, also are able to
download the files as is.
The kerne
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 03:54:01PM +0200, jdd wrote:
> * as I said, send 1 source dvd for 10 boxes to dealers or at
> least brokers. cheap and at hand for the user.
1 in 10? Also these then need to be sold and thus packaged and so on.
Either you include them, or you don't. Just having then lying
Per Jessen wrote:
houghi wrote:
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 02:47:50PM +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
I'm not. I am thinking for instance France, Britain, Scandinavia,
Switzerland, Belgium etc. I think it's a pretty safe bet that ADSL
is available to perhaps 95% of people in Northern/Central Europe.
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 05:39:27PM +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
> Belgium's 75% availability is pretty low - even the UK reached 90% about
> two years ago. I did say "available to", _not_ "in use by".
Even if availability would be 100%, that does not make it so that users
are actually using it. You
houghi wrote:
> On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 02:47:50PM +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
>> I'm not. I am thinking for instance France, Britain, Scandinavia,
>> Switzerland, Belgium etc. I think it's a pretty safe bet that ADSL
>> is available to perhaps 95% of people in Northern/Central Europe.
>
> That is
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 02:04:45PM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> If there is no admin book, I don't have any reason to buy the distro,
> that's how it is. I can not justify it, I don't have excuses anymore,
> sorry. A pity.
>
> * Install support? I'm not a beginner, the problems I may have are n
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 02:47:50PM +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
> I'm not. I am thinking for instance France, Britain, Scandinavia,
> Switzerland, Belgium etc. I think it's a pretty safe bet that ADSL is
> available to perhaps 95% of people in Northern/Central Europe.
That is a bet you are going to
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The Monday 2006-05-15 at 14:40 +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
...
> > Cable is not viable, they say, although it lies 30 meters from my
> > door.
>
> You'd probably have to pay for them digging in the cable - that's what
> usually happens around here.
Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote:
> I get this while trying to retrieve it.
>
> Making FTP connection to ftp.opensuse.org
> Can't Access
>
`ftp://ftp.opensuse.org/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.1/inst-source/docu/en/reference_en.pdf'
> Alert!: Unable to access document.
It's there, but not at that URL -
jdd wrote:
> Per Jessen wrote:
>> houghi wrote:
>>
>>> In numbers, the amount of people who have dialup is prety large.
>>
>> In absolute numbers yes, but in relative
>
> don't think only for your country.
I'm not. I am thinking for instance France, Britain, Scandinavia,
Switzerland, Belgiu
Carlos E. R. wrote:
> The Monday 2006-05-15 at 11:59 +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
>> In absolute numbers yes, but in relative, I wonder if not most people
>> have or are moving to ADSL? Many countries have 95% or better
>> coverage, and the cost is now _almost_ negligible. (the cheapest
>> here is C
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 06:33:11AM -0600, Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote:
> > On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 07:05:19AM -0400, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2006-05-15 at 03:00 +0200, Marcus Rueckert wrote:
> > > > On 2006-05-14 19:41:17 -0400, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> > > > > I guess you have -not- be
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> > On Mon, 2006-05-15 at 03:00 +0200, Marcus Rueckert wrote:
> > > On 2006-05-14 19:41:17 -0400, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> > > > I guess you have -not- been involved with SUSE for v
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The Monday 2006-05-15 at 14:11 +0200, Clayton wrote:
> In Canada, my friend's & family are lucky to get 512Kbit (if it's even
> available) - a couple are on 1Mbit connections... they live in the
> city a couple others only have 56k dialup (not ev
That "many" countries means the first world only, and then only cities in
my part of the first world. They are thinking some kind of radio link
instead.
You know... it's funny... I have better internet speeds when I'm
visiting friends in Narobi Kenya than I do when I'm visiting my
parents back i
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The Monday 2006-05-15 at 13:12 +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote:
> ftp://ftp.opensuse.org/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.1/inst-source/docu/en/reference_en.pdf
>
> It is not on the CDs and DVDs, admittedly.
That is no substitute for the magnificent pa
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The Monday 2006-05-15 at 11:59 +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
> houghi wrote:
>
> > In numbers, the amount of people who have dialup is prety large.
>
> In absolute numbers yes, but in relative, I wonder if not most people
> have or are moving to ADSL?
Hi,
On Mon, 15 May 2006, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Monday 2006-05-15 at 01:14 +0200, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
So tell your non-ADSL friends that part of my posting that you didn't quote
here.
meaning?
Just to ask SUSE for a hard medium.
But you better would have read my posting again.
Ch
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The Monday 2006-05-15 at 01:14 +0200, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
> So tell your non-ADSL friends that part of my posting that you didn't quote
> here.
meaning?
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On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 07:05:19AM -0400, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-05-15 at 03:00 +0200, Marcus Rueckert wrote:
> > On 2006-05-14 19:41:17 -0400, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> > > I guess you have -not- been involved with SUSE for very long. There used
> > > to be -two- books one of whi
On Mon, 2006-05-15 at 03:00 +0200, Marcus Rueckert wrote:
> On 2006-05-14 19:41:17 -0400, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> > I guess you have -not- been involved with SUSE for very long. There used
> > to be -two- books one of which was an admin book which is no longer
> > available. And now there is -no
Per Jessen wrote:
> houghi wrote:
>
>> In numbers, the amount of people who have dialup is prety large.
>
> In absolute numbers yes, but in relative
don't think only for your country. do you think adsl is so
spread in china or india? not to speak about africa...
but AFAIK the source dvd is a
Hi,
On Mon, 15 May 2006, Per Jessen wrote:
For download, I think it makes perfect sense to keep both an ISO and the
individual files.
For the sources, it is perfectly sufficient to have the files plus a
script like makesusedvd.
One should be able to run a script if he wants to work with an
houghi wrote:
> In numbers, the amount of people who have dialup is prety large.
In absolute numbers yes, but in relative, I wonder if not most people
have or are moving to ADSL? Many countries have 95% or better
coverage, and the cost is now _almost_ negligible. (the cheapest here
is CHF9/mo
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 11:00:09AM +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
> Hmm, true. I guess there's not much one can do to help someone with
> that kind of connection - and for the majority of the SUSE-market, it
> is surely a rare exception too?
In numbers, the amount of people who have dialup is prety lar
houghi wrote:
> On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 10:25:56AM +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
>> > Many don't have the
>> > bandwidth to download a large iso.
>>
>> That's partially what bittorrent is there for.
>
> Uhm, no. Say I have a 28.8K modem connection. Wether I download with
> FTP or Torrent would hardly
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 10:25:56AM +0200, Per Jessen wrote:
> > Many don't have the
> > bandwidth to download a large iso.
>
> That's partially what bittorrent is there for.
Uhm, no. Say I have a 28.8K modem connection. Wether I download with FTP
or Torrent would hardly make a difference.
hou
BandiPat wrote:
> We were all aware of that Eberhard, since we all complained about that
> situation also. Many of us had hoped that would change after they got
> the bugs worked out of resale boxes. There are many that still desire
> a sources DVD to be included, but maybe SuSE didn't hear our
On 2006-05-14 19:41:17 -0400, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> I guess you have -not- been involved with SUSE for very long. There used
> to be -two- books one of which was an admin book which is no longer
> available. And now there is -no- pdf replacement. What a shame, a very
> good distro going to the
On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 07:41:17PM -0400, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> I can just imagine what the bean counters
> were saying:
>
> "If we stop shipping the admin book and the sources DVD no one will
> notice and we can save $X.00 per box"
>
> Well many people have noticed and they also noticed the
On Mon, May 15, 2006 at 12:39:46AM +0200, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
> The silent death of the admin guide was a bad decision in my mind too.
>
> Up to 9.3, I could advise interested people "just buy one SUSE box, and
> you have all you need to become a server admin - experiences with docs".
I d
Hi,
On Mon, 15 May 2006, Marcus Rueckert wrote:
On 2006-05-15 01:18:39 +0200, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
I bet you have never looked into it. ;-))
The contents of the formerly called "admin guide" are missing. No book, no
more PDF. That is really bad. The PDF would be enough...
the admin gu
On Mon, 2006-05-15 at 01:12 +0200, Marcus Rueckert wrote:
> On 2006-05-15 01:07:40 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> > If the 10.1 box doesn't have the admin book, I think I'm not buying it. I
> > intended to, but if there is no book, I won't :-(
> >
> > No sources, no book... what on earth do I get t
On 2006-05-15 01:18:39 +0200, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
> I bet you have never looked into it. ;-))
> The contents of the formerly called "admin guide" are missing. No book, no
> more PDF. That is really bad. The PDF would be enough...
the admin guide is part of the suselinux-manual package.
and
Hi,
On Mon, 15 May 2006, Marcus Rueckert wrote:
On 2006-05-15 01:07:40 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
If the 10.1 box doesn't have the admin book, I think I'm not buying it. I
intended to, but if there is no book, I won't :-(
No sources, no book... what on earth do I get that I can't download
my
Hi,
On Mon, 15 May 2006, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Monday 2006-05-15 at 00:39 +0200, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
On Sun, 14 May 2006, BandiPat wrote:
...
We were all aware of that Eberhard, since we all complained about that
situation also. Many of us had hoped that would change after they got
On 2006-05-15 01:07:40 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> If the 10.1 box doesn't have the admin book, I think I'm not buying it. I
> intended to, but if there is no book, I won't :-(
>
> No sources, no book... what on earth do I get that I can't download
> myself?
there is a printed book in the box.
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The Monday 2006-05-15 at 00:39 +0200, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
> On Sun, 14 May 2006, BandiPat wrote:
...
> > We were all aware of that Eberhard, since we all complained about that
> > situation also. Many of us had hoped that would change after
Hi,
On Sun, 14 May 2006, BandiPat wrote:
On Sunday 14 May 2006 15:19, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
On Sun, 14 May 2006, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Sunday 2006-05-14 at 01:35 +0200, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
Of course there will not be an additional sources DVD within the
box. It would be wasted
On Sunday 14 May 2006 15:19, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sun, 14 May 2006, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> > The Sunday 2006-05-14 at 01:35 +0200, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
> >> Of course there will not be an additional sources DVD within the
> >> box. It would be wasted material and manpower fo
Hi,
On Sun, 14 May 2006, Carlos E. R. wrote:
The Sunday 2006-05-14 at 01:35 +0200, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
Of course there will not be an additional sources DVD within the box.
It would be wasted material and manpower for 99% of the buyers.
You HAVE GOT the sources in sense of the GPL, do
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The Sunday 2006-05-14 at 01:35 +0200, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
> Of course there will not be an additional sources DVD within the box.
> It would be wasted material and manpower for 99% of the buyers.
>
> You HAVE GOT the sources in sense of the G
Hi,
On Sat, 13 May 2006, BandiPat wrote:
On Saturday 13 May 2006 19:14, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
On Sun, 14 May 2006, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
Aren't the sources directories on the mirrors enough?
/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.1/inst-source/suse/src/
/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.
On Saturday 13 May 2006 19:14, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sun, 14 May 2006, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
> > Aren't the sources directories on the mirrors enough?
> >
> > /pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.1/inst-source/suse/src/
> > /pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.1/non-oss-inst-source/s
Hi,
On Sun, 14 May 2006, Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
Aren't the sources directories on the mirrors enough?
/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.1/inst-source/suse/src/
/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-10.1/non-oss-inst-source/suse/src/
Do you really need them blowed into the ass?
I am very sorry fo
Hi,
On Sat, 13 May 2006, BandiPat wrote:
Sounds like 10.1 is getting a good response from everyone and the
mirrors are overloaded with downloaders. Reports I've seen, thus far,
seem to indicate the nice job 10.0 was, has just gotten better with
10.1 release. Did we have any doubts? ;o)
Anyw
Hey SUSE guys on the list!
Sounds like 10.1 is getting a good response from everyone and the
mirrors are overloaded with downloaders. Reports I've seen, thus far,
seem to indicate the nice job 10.0 was, has just gotten better with
10.1 release. Did we have any doubts? ;o)
Anyway, enough of
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