On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 10:59:38PM +0200, Christian Boltz wrote:
[1] I did not check the full HTML source, but at least verified that
positioning is done with CSS (and without tables)
I wish they could do that with the rest of the page as well. Works a LOT
easier. It would also make it
Hi,
two weeks ago I promised to get more involved into the front page
discussion. In order to have something to start with, I made a proposal
that tries to bring the suggestions mentioned at
http://en.opensuse.org/Frontpage_redesign/List_of_Proposal_Pages
together:
Splash screen for
Frank Sundermeyer wrote:
Hi,
two weeks ago I promised to get more involved into the front page
discussion. In order to have something to start with, I made a proposal
that tries to bring the suggestions mentioned at
http://en.opensuse.org/Frontpage_redesign/List_of_Proposal_Pages
together:
On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 03:26:35PM +0200, Frank Sundermeyer wrote:
Hi,
two weeks ago I promised to get more involved into the front page
discussion. In order to have something to start with, I made a proposal
that tries to bring the suggestions mentioned at
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two weeks ago I promised to get more involved into the front page
discussion. In order to have something to start with, I made a proposal
that tries to bring the suggestions mentioned at
On Tuesday 25 July 2006 16:29, houghi wrote:
Hi,
I don't like the idea of a splash screen.
well, I am double-minded on this topic. I really don't know. I just made
a splash screen because it was suggested.
I still believe that first
a cookie must deal with the language. If that is not
On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 04:55:05PM +0200, Frank Sundermeyer wrote:
So, sorry, but I will not implement _any_ language magic on
opensuse.org. Just let the user decide which language he/she wants
(this does _not_ imply that we need a splash screen, of course).
Even though I do not agree, I
On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 05:09:55PM +0200, houghi wrote:
Not that I was just thinking of http://opensuse.org, not of any other
This must have been I was just thinking of ... The above might be
confusing.
So to repeat and clearify: I just would do the language trick on
http://opensuse.org (and
Frank Sundermeyer a écrit :
So, sorry, but I will not implement _any_ language magic on
opensuse.org. Just let the user decide which language he/she wants
(this does _not_ imply that we need a splash screen, of course).
this is good. and we need a splash screen, because:
* the english wiki
It seems that it will be very difficult to find a form that
anybody like. so I want to enphasis to the following statement:
I don't really mind of the form the front page have (color,
size...) and I will follow any result Novell decide to use.
However, I strongly think that things must be
On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 06:37:19PM +0200, jdd wrote:
* a agree with the fact that automatic redirection is evil :-()
I completely and utterly disagree here. If my browser tells the website
what language I use, why would I make the choice myself AGAIN?
I have not yet heard anybody complain about
On 2006-07-25 23:46:02 +0200, Christian Boltz wrote:
and http://en.opensuse.org/Image:Sample_Splash.png)
are we putting the project into a grave or why the black background?
i think the placing of the links should be doable with _html_ and _css_
the round placing will be pain in the a**.
houghi wrote:
On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 05:09:55PM +0200, houghi wrote:
Not that I was just thinking of http://opensuse.org, not of any other
This must have been I was just thinking of ... The above might be
confusing.
So to repeat and clearify: I just would do the language trick on
Frank Sundermeyer wrote:
Hi,
two weeks ago I promised to get more involved into the front page
discussion. In order to have something to start with, I made a proposal
that tries to bring the suggestions mentioned at
http://en.opensuse.org/Frontpage_redesign/List_of_Proposal_Pages
On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 06:50:09PM -0500, Rajko M wrote:
The language automatic redirect is good for 100% monolingual people, and
it is not for any other. I was probably one that was really unhappy with
last language preference selection on www.novell.com (year or two ago).
The issue with
On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 11:46:02PM +0200, Christian Boltz wrote:
I agree that any magic based on the AcceptLanguage browser setting or
alike is evil. While my browser says that I prefer german, I mostly
visit en.opensuse.org because it is the most complete wiki.
I visit that as well. As long
I really think your are right saying we must go ahead on
this subject, so I will try to separate it on smaller chunks :-)
The first thing we _must_ do is a hub page, viewable on
opensuse.org (without any en, fr...).
We need this badly because our goal of making an
international distribution,
==Sidebar==
The sidebar has two parts we can't really play with: tool
box and others langages.
we must limit the ohers menu entries to sgnificant ones
(remember: keep it simple)
the french wiki:
http://fr.opensuse.org/Bienvenue_sur_openSUSE.org
gives an idea of what I propose. but it's not that
the right column looks nice for me, no need to change
howaver we need a sort of source for more locals info, may
be a forth part, at the bottom (local news?), but only if we
can find info to set in it :-)
jdd
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http://www.dodin.net
http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html
vampire? sun allergy? newlywed neighbours? or are you a connoisseur of
the famous Brussels nightlife? c'mon, come out of the closet, let us
know!
My reason is simple: I am live in the far east.
This is what I regret, it's difficult for me to attend a real time net
meeting (chat, IRC...) in the
Great. Perhaps some SUSE people here can give you some pointers and extra
information on whom to contact internally at SUSE. That way they might get
use of the tools available for only SUSE/Noevell people.
I am just guessing here. Perhaps Sonja can give some pointers.
Ain't it great. openSUSE
Am Mittwoch, den 03.05.2006, 15:26 +0900 schrieb noniko:
My reason is simple: I am live in the far east.
Sunny hot California here.
This is what I regret, it's difficult for me to attend a real time net
meeting (chat, IRC...) in the world-wide community.
I admit I didn't attend any
On 5/3/06, houghi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For me not a good thing, but it seems I am the only one who cares about it
and/or thinks that each first page should have the same content and
layout. So this will be my last comment on it (unless others suddenly plan
to get into the discussion)
It is
noniko wrote:
The most thing I'm afraid of is separated or disconnected multiple
entrances of openSUSE for Japanese users. I think not bad of multiple
entrances, but they must be connected each other. Otherwise, Japanese
users are confused where to get or post the information on openSUSE.
Peter Flodin wrote:
On 5/3/06, houghi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is my belief that it is stated that the English wiki is the project
master, and all important pages should be kept in synch by the
language maintainers.
true. but kept in sync mean nothing important must lack.
and I very
Hi, jdd.
think of goals, not image. The goal is to bring with us the
more people we can.
so localized wikis are aimed at all the guys that don't read
english or don't like to see english rule the world.
So get in the wiki all the stuff you think Japan folks
needs, don't ask at first if this
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 09:12:27AM +0200, jdd wrote:
think of goals, not image. The goal is to bring with us the
more people we can.
No, The goals of the openSUSE project are:
* Make SUSE Linux the easiest Linux distribution for anyone to obtain
and the most widely used open source
houghi wrote:
Where do you get that number 650?
specialpage:statistics
jdd
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http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html
http://lucien.dodin.net
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On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 06:00:50PM +0200, jdd wrote:
houghi wrote:
Where do you get that number 650?
specialpage:statistics
On what are these stats based? e.g. am I calculated in these pages as
well? I did a change on http://fr.opensuse.org/D%C3%A9clarer_un_bug
(Completely by accident
Hi,
Where do you get that number 650?
specialpage:statistics
It seems interesting. Can I search also for Japanese members? I only
grab the JA-team members, that is, only six! But there might be someone
who doesn't write his name in Translation_Team page but giving his help
in edit. Or
Hello, I am one who uses the language in so limited location.
I would love to get an email when somebody does a change on
http://en.opensuse.org/Making_a_DVD_from_CDs or on
http://de.opensuse.org/Erstellen_einer_DVD_aus_den_CDs or on
http://en.opensuse.org/JA-Making_a_DVD_from_CDs even though
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 11:26:40PM +0900, noniko wrote:
Hello, I am one who uses the language in so limited location.
I would love to get an email when somebody does a change on
http://en.opensuse.org/Making_a_DVD_from_CDs or on
http://de.opensuse.org/Erstellen_einer_DVD_aus_den_CDs or on
noniko wrote:
One should edit at first the original(English) page if he would make a
major change of the content.
only a sysop can modify the front page (and I'm glad of this
:-).
SUSE employees are very busy making the new 10.1 and it's
understandable they have litle time to give to the wiki
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 06:44:21PM +0200, jdd wrote:
noniko wrote:
One should edit at first the original(English) page if he would make a
major change of the content.
only a sysop can modify the front page (and I'm glad of this
:-).
Looking on the change done on the fr.* page it also
houghi wrote:
anyway I don't think I made a major change, only a cosmetic one.
That can be a HUGE change when it comes to web pages.
for me, a cosmetic change is a change nobody see when
looking at the page two feets away :-)
that is a small change. Changes that are made in the right
column
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 07:14:52PM +0200, jdd wrote:
for me, a cosmetic change is a change nobody see when
looking at the page two feets away :-)
I can see the difference beteen the en and fr frontpage from much farther
away. :-/
By removing many main links, you have made it in a different page
On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 10:23:03AM +0900, noniko wrote:
Hello, today I went to fr.opensuse.org. I don't see any strange
difference in design between fr and en pages.
There are much less links on the left and an extra picture on the right,
To me that means that there is less (or different,
Am Mittwoch, den 03.05.2006, 03:38 +0200 schrieb houghi:
If my next reply is late, please excuse me! I live at night if you live
in the daytime.
The same for me. Only I realy live at night.
houghi
vampire? sun allergy? newlywed neighbours? or are you a connoisseur of
the famous
Hello,
I have made a quite significative -still not so visible-
change to the front page at http://fr.opensuse.org.
The french page being much less seen than the english one,
it's a good place to test (I already asked the users they
advice, will see the answer-and yours, I can go back).
to
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 05:49:16PM +0200, jdd wrote:
to summarise, I don't change anything in the layout. the
goal was to make the hole page fit in 800x600 screen
That is the wrong goal. I know you have been going on how SUSE should be
workable with older PC's. The goal should howver be to make
houghi wrote:
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 05:49:16PM +0200, jdd wrote:
to summarise, I don't change anything in the layout. the
goal was to make the hole page fit in 800x600 screen
That is the wrong goal. I know you have been going on how SUSE should be
workable with older PC's. The goal should
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 07:52:14PM +0200, jdd wrote:
? I don't see what you mean. sidebar is of fixed height. the
english one fills more than my 20 screen, and is not at all
resizable - it's mostly unreadable.
I think it is readable. It needs a lot of work, that is true. Especially
the order
houghi wrote:
A scrollbar at the bottom. Seems to be gone now, Strange
I didn't change at all the width of the page, anyway
Not one, many more
desagree. good info is little info, is not you get sunk
no. I report french speaking events - for the others, the
english page is there.
And
On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 09:22:48PM +0200, jdd wrote:
Not one, many more
desagree. good info is little info, is not you get sunk
Not always. You need correct information, not just a little.
why not also japanese events? if you don't undeerstand
english, why did you bother english meetings?
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