*)
---
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of Nathan Chere
Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2013 3:36 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] NBN revisited
I was living in Riverstone for a while when it was scheduled to be one of the
first suburbs in NSW
: Wednesday, 4 September 2013 3:48 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: [OT] NBN revisited
What I don’t understand is that if you’re in a built up area, why they don’t
just install Fibre to the Home.
Copper might do for the short term, but it is expensive to maintain and has all
sorts of issues like
And we’ll pay him $195K/year.
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of anthonyatsmall...@mail.com
Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2013 4:11 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: [OT] NBN revisited
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrQPXXHUilU this is pretty
Of anthonyatsmall...@mail.com
Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2013 4:11 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: [OT] NBN revisited
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrQPXXHUilU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrQPXXHUilU this is pretty funny and disturbing
video!
This guy is pretty useless..this politick
*)
---
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of Tony Wright
Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2013 6:02 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: [OT] NBN revisited
Wow, he didn’t even know what the policies of his party were. I think I know
them
({}, 'cvml',
'ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com');
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.comjavascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
'ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com');]
*On Behalf Of *Tony Wright
*Sent:* Wednesday, 4 September 2013 6:02 PM
*To:* 'ozDotNet'
*Subject:* RE: [OT] NBN revisited
...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul Evrat
*Sent:* Thursday, 5 September 2013 8:37 AM
*To:* 'ozDotNet'
*Subject:* RE: [OT] NBN revisited
** **
Any pro-business force in parliament can only be good for the country. If
business isn’t doing well we can’t afford anything else ..
** **
*From
What, you mean the fat rich pricks we've already got aren't fat, rich or
prickly enough?
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of Scott Barnes
Sent: Thursday, 5 September 2013 10:07 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] NBN revisited
He won't get
...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Scott Barnes
*Sent:* Thursday, 5 September 2013 10:07 AM
*To:* ozDotNet
*Subject:* Re: [OT] NBN revisited
** **
He won't get the numbers and this morning I was in a cafe eating breakfast
and saw him on Sunrise talking about
*To:* ozDotNet
*Subject:* Re: [OT] NBN revisited
** **
Isn't that really the point of the NBN? To try to make internet access
more available? I have no problem with people in the middle of nowhere
getting it first because they have few options. I might complain about
being stuck with optus but I
...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer
Sent: Thursday, 5 September 2013 9:26 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] NBN revisited
There are multiple ways to cook an egg. Clive's policy platform isn't
necessarily the best one.
Pro free market (as opposed to pro
...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Tony Wright
*Sent:* Thursday, 5 September 2013 7:52 AM
*To:* 'ozDotNet'
*Subject:* RE: [OT] NBN revisited
** **
Oh I thought the only people ridiculous enough to vote for him were
Queenslanders.
** **
*From
better for the
general population.
** **
Cheers
Ken
** **
*From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul Evrat
*Sent:* Thursday, 5 September 2013 8:37 AM
*To:* 'ozDotNet'
*Subject:* RE: [OT] NBN revisited
:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul Evrat
*Sent:* Thursday, 5 September 2013 8:37 AM
*To:* 'ozDotNet'
*Subject:* RE: [OT] NBN revisited
** **
Any pro-business force in parliament can only be good for the country.
If business isn’t
Sent: Thursday, 5 September 2013 10:28 AM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: [OT] NBN revisited
True, Clive and his policies in total are a bit over the top but he knows he's
not going to be PM, it will be a long time before there is other than a Lib or
Labor PM, but there are too many balls
Of anthonyatsmall...@mail.com
Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2013 4:11 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: [OT] NBN revisited
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrQPXXHUilU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrQPXXHUilU this is pretty funny and disturbing
video!
This guy is pretty useless..this politick
??!!
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer
Sent: Thursday, 5 September 2013 11:21 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] NBN revisited
I think you have a naïve view of what business lobbying is about then.
Tax breaks or write-offs
Ken
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of Paul Evrat
Sent: Thursday, 5 September 2013 11:58 AM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: [OT] NBN revisited
Lobbyists are always going to keep themselves busy but that just counters the
relentless lobbying
.
**
In their case too, it's 'all about them'
**
Cheers
Ken
** **
** **
*From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul Evrat
*Sent:* Thursday, 5 September 2013 11:58 AM
*To:* 'ozDotNet'
*Subject:* RE: [OT] NBN revisited
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 8:27 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] NBN revisited
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 3:38 PM, GregAtGregLowDotCom g...@greglow.com wrote:
And that’s the real issue. If it’s all about just providing some level of
service to people that have no real options today, they we
and companies to build wealth so
we can afford better welfare safety nets etc.
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of Ken Schaefer
Sent: Thursday, 5 September 2013 12:34 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] NBN revisited
Wouldnt you want some sort
:58 AM
*To:* 'ozDotNet'
*Subject:* RE: [OT] NBN revisited
** **
** **
Lobbyists are always going to keep themselves busy but that just counters
the relentless lobbying by welfare groups for non-economy boosting
government spending. Unless you’re the big 4 banks or Coles or Woolworths
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of Paul Evrat
Sent: Thursday, 5 September 2013 2:21 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: [OT] NBN revisited
Without doubt any elected official acting out their vested interests (no matter
what) belongs behind bars
? Interesting reading. Why the Labor Party had so much difficulty selling this
we will probably never know.
Probably something to do with the public face of the plan being a patronising
power-tripping imbecile with no significant IT or Telco industry experience or
credibility and even less
The other part is the not invented here syndrome from the coalition. And
their owing a favour to murdoch, bigtime.
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Nathan Chere nathan.ch...@saiglobal.comwrote:
**Ø **Interesting reading. Why the Labor Party had so much difficulty
selling this we will
I have FTTH :) *yeah sucks to be me huh* and the reality is i barely even
scratch the surface of its actual usage levels, given the majority of the
internet can't even upload fast enough unless i'm dealing in BitTorrent
style behaviour (node to node). Websites usually cap at around 500k-1mb
anyway
Of Nathan Chere
Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2013 10:46 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] NBN revisited
Ø Interesting reading. Why the Labor Party had so much difficulty selling this
we will probably never know.
Probably something to do with the public face of the plan being a patronising
power
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Tony Wright tonyw...@gmail.com wrote:
Now to my position – lest you think me some impractical academic. In my BT
life I was employed as:
**
1) A digger of trenches
2) An installer of poles, cables, telephones PBXs, exchanges
3) A maintainer of
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2013 11:31 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] NBN revisited
They only way to deliver something of this size is to be transport agnostic,
stage the delivery
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] NBN revisited
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Tony Wright tonyw...@gmail.com
mailto:tonyw...@gmail.com wrote:
Now to my position – lest you think me some impractical academic. In my BT life
I was employed as:
1) A digger of trenches
2) An installer of poles, cables
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote:
Yet he was the CTO for BT. He’s probably got a reasonable level of
experience in how to actually deliver “something of this size”
Anyone else sceptical of “the only way to do immensely complex project
is…” claims
is the “one true path”
Cheers
Ken
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2013 11:50 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] NBN revisited
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Ken Schaefer
k
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote:
Um, since when am I a “FTTP nutjob”?
** **
Your antipathy to the current NBN is well known.
I have an antipathy for piling up money and setting it on fire.
[ ... ]
Since you’re been involved in
Of Ken Schaefer
Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2013 11:58 AM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] NBN revisited
Um, since when am I a “FTTP nutjob”?
Your antipathy to the current NBN is well known. FWIW I think that this type of
proposed infrastructure is a good idea, but I’m not wedded
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2013 12:13 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] NBN revisited
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Ken Schaefer
k...@adopenstatic.commailto:k...@adopenstatic.com wrote
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote:
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com
wrote:
**
Um, since when am I a “FTTP nutjob”?
Your antipathy to the current NBN is well known.
** **
I have an antipathy
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2013 12:54 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] NBN revisited
Your antipathy to the current NBN is well known.
I have an antipathy for piling up money and setting
...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Connors
*Sent:* Wednesday, 4 September 2013 12:54 PM
*To:* ozDotNet
*Subject:* Re: [OT] NBN revisited
** **
Your antipathy to the current NBN is well known.
I have an antipathy for piling up money and setting
is astounding.
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2013 12:54 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] NBN revisited
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com
mailto:k
Here’s a good read from today :
http://www.theage.com.au/digital-life/computers/blogs/gadgets-on-the-go/turnbulls-fragmented-nbn-dooms-australia-to-repeat-the-mistakes-of-the-past-20130904-2t4cr.html
Hopefully that will help some folks see past the one tree and start looking at
the forest.
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of David Connors
Subject: Re: [OT] NBN revisited
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Ken Schaefer
k...@adopenstatic.commailto:k...@adopenstatic.com wrote:
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Tony Wright tonyw...@gmail.com wrote:
I still haven’t heard anything from you that convinces me David.
I doubt there is anything I can say that would convince you.
The NBN is likely to bring in A$105 billion dollars to A$237 billion
dollars. That’s a
, money etc.
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of David Connors
Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2013 2:22 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] NBN revisited
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Tony Wright tonyw...@gmail.com
mailto:tonyw...@gmail.com
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:37 PM, David Richards ausdot...@davidsuniverse.com
wrote:
Apart from the use of impacted, a nice article.
At least it wasn't impactful.
For some reason, this whole argument reminds me of the republic referendum
some years back. I knew a number of people who
: http://www.sqldownunder.com/ www.sqldownunder.com
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of David Richards
Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2013 2:38 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] NBN revisited
Apart from the use of impacted, a nice article
: www.sqldownunder.com
** **
*From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Richards
*Sent:* Wednesday, 4 September 2013 2:38 PM
*To:* ozDotNet
*Subject:* Re: [OT] NBN revisited
** **
Apart from the use of impacted, a nice article
are and how long it takes:
Only $5K from the exchange to your house: dreaming ;)
From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com]
On Behalf Of GregAtGregLowDotCom
Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2013 2:51 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: RE: [OT] NBN revisited
Like
: RE: [OT] NBN revisited
I wouldn't count on that running that smoothly. It will take time to get
that many fridges installed everywhere: thinking it can all be done in
three years sounds incredibly hopeful to me. But even once that is done,
then the fibre has to be physically installed down
...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of GregAtGregLowDotCom
Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2013 3:14 PM
To: 'ozDotNet'
Subject: RE: [OT] NBN revisited
But what's the alternative Bill? Wait for the NBN?
We're not even on the we'll think about starting within 3 years map. And all
[mailto:
ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill McCarthy
*Sent:* Wednesday, 4 September 2013 3:06 PM
*To:* 'ozDotNet'
*Subject:* RE: [OT] NBN revisited
** **
I wouldn’t count on that running that smoothly. It will take time to get
that many “fridges” installed everywhere
[mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On
Behalf Of mike smith
Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2013 2:55 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] NBN revisited
Looking at the rollout, it's scheduled to be available for me by end of year.
Which is somewhat unfair, being I've already got vdsl2.
On Wed, Sep
] On
Behalf Of David Richards
Sent: Wednesday, 4 September 2013 3:28 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] NBN revisited
Isn't that really the point of the NBN? To try to make internet access more
available? I have no problem with people in the middle of nowhere getting it
first because they have
requirements)
– especially the really complex ones?
** **
Cheers
Ken
** **
*From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Scott Barnes
*Sent:* Wednesday, 4 September 2013 1:09 PM
*To:* ozDotNet
*Subject:* Re: [OT] NBN revisited
mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913fax
SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com
** **
*From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:
ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *David Richards
*Sent:* Wednesday, 4 September 2013 2:38 PM
*To:* ozDotNet
*Subject:* Re: [OT] NBN revisited
*Subject:* Re: [OT] NBN revisited
** **
Isn't that really the point of the NBN? To try to make internet access
more available? I have no problem with people in the middle of nowhere
getting it first because they have few options. I might complain about
being stuck with optus but I still get
55 matches
Mail list logo
