Re: (Please help me understand)

2001-06-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Jeff Tokayer" Subject: Re: (Please help me understand) > Did you act like one too? Like one what?? William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to

Re: Another ME Super, more weirdness

2001-06-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Dan Scott" Subject: Another ME Super, more weirdness > Hi all, > > The seller of my first ME Super offered me a refund or a replacement. I > opted for the replacement. This one is exhibiting more baffling behavior. > Any help diagnosing the cause is appreciat

Re: (Please help me understand)

2001-06-16 Thread Jeff Tokayer
Did you act like one too? > > Back when I had hair, I was a blonde. > L8R > Bill > > > - > This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, > go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to > visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . >

RE: MZ-S (Please help me understand)

2001-06-16 Thread Jeff Geilenkirchen
That works well for me...especially there is no way I can afford the product now. :) As I read more, it sounds as if the additional focusing areas would be cool if the autofocus mechanism was faster/more accurate. I would spring for the $$$ eventually for that. Thanks for the info - J -

Re: Late PUG comments

2001-06-16 Thread William Johnson
Gianfranco wrote; >Hi everybody, >I know I'm a bit late but unfortunately I've been >sick, after being too busy, >so... Sound like me! Busy month, I had my wisdom teeth out.. >I'd like to mention the images that caught my eye >this month, in no particular >order: >" Evening Stroll " >by

Re: PUG comments: Peifer, Wuthrich... Also Waters, Theriault, Johnson

2001-06-16 Thread William Johnson
Sid wrote; >And I give silver stars to: Cory Waters, Frank >Theriault, and William Johnson. Thanks Sid! Best of luck on your new endeavor. Keep us updated. Regards, William in Utah. __ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, a

(Please help me understand)

2001-06-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - (Please help me understand) > When I have hair, it's wavy. > > Doug Back when I had hair, I was a blonde. L8R Bill - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit

Re: June Gallery Comments

2001-06-16 Thread William Johnson
Collin Brendemuehl, taking on the mammoth task of commenting on every PUG submission this month wrote; > >" Evening Stroll " by William Johnson, USA > Nice sense of perspective. > Makes me think of David & Goliath just a bit. Thanks Collin, for your comments. William in Utah.

June Commentary for Moses, White, Gordon.

2001-06-16 Thread William Johnson
Hi all, It's been a hectic month, culminated (so far) by having my wisdom teeth removed, so I'm checking in a little late. " First Church of the Americas " by Tiger Moses, USA: I've looked at this on both my work and home monitors, and it seems lacking in shadow detail. I would guess that it w

Another ME Super, more weirdness

2001-06-16 Thread Dan Scott
Hi all, The seller of my first ME Super offered me a refund or a replacement. I opted for the replacement. This one is exhibiting more baffling behavior. Any help diagnosing the cause is appreciated. Scans of the test roll are here: http://dscott.home.texas.net/ME%20Super/ME_Super_2/me_super_2.h

Re: MZ-S (Please help me understand)

2001-06-16 Thread Doug Brewer
Which would cause the price of the MZ-S to drop as well... Good point At 10:04 PM -04006/16/01, Mark D. , under cross examination, admitted: >Jeff, > >One more thing to keep in mind is that Pentax has, at times, replaced a body >fairly soon after its release. The PZ-1 turned PZ-1p and ZX-5 tur

Re: MZ-S (Please help me understand)

2001-06-16 Thread Doug Brewer
When I have hair, it's wavy. Doug At 12:32 AM -04006/16/01, Ann Sanfedele , under cross examination, admitted: > >Damn! and I was _just_ going to order one of those - you know, one that would make >me a photographer >about 6 " tall, wavy hair, 180 lbs, a winning smile and willing to car

Re: BG-10 grip questions

2001-06-16 Thread Doug Brewer
I believe the BG-10 is indeed metal, but I'll have to check. I can tell you that when it is attached to the camera, it's difficult to tell where the camera ends and the grip begins. Just off the top of my head, I don't think the FG will fit. The attachment method is different (and pretty cool,

Fw: pentax lenses...

2001-06-16 Thread Steve Barbour
> Thanks Mark.. love to see some reviews of M42 mount lenses.. esp old 85 mm > and 105mm Takumars..Anyone have experience they would like to share. ? > Steve > - Original Message - > From: "Mark D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 7:0

Re: Slow Server!!! (was: FA 70-210)

2001-06-16 Thread Doug Brewer
Joe, The archive service handles over 5000 lists, and sometimes things run a little slowly. Add that it's an entirely volunteer effort, and I'd say a four day lag is forgivable. Thanks, Doug At 4:29 PM -06006/16/01, Joseph Tainter , under cross examination, admitted: >Slower than ZX-5 autof

This is a test - no msg's on 06/16/01?

2001-06-16 Thread Pdgsurvey
Find it unlikely that there are no messages on this date.  So testing to see if it works. Thanks for your patience. Paul Gutkowski

Re: MZ-S (Please help me understand)

2001-06-16 Thread Mark D.
From: Jeff Geilenkirchen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Thanks for the feedback all! I totally understand the points being made. > I look forward to handling the MZ-S and see for myself if it's worth it. Jeff, One more thing to keep in mind is that Pentax has, at times, replaced a body fairly soon aft

Re: Pentax CCD spec V0.1 was (Pentax CCD back design)

2001-06-16 Thread Philippe Trottier
Well let's put it like this just my electronic design charges for a similar project would be around 75KUS to 90KUS... including, firmware, and computer software... I have a net profit way higher than Pentax ;-) and pentax has to spread that X00K+ on a lot of machines... I don't since Ill do tha

Re: Pentax CCD spec V0.1 was (Pentax CCD back design)

2001-06-16 Thread Leon Altoff
On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 09:44:52 +1000, Rob Studdert wrote: >This little project is sounding quite interesting, I am impressed that you >consider it within your scope of competence. My question is that if the >development costs are so reasonable why haven't Pentax done it already :-( I have given

Re: Late PUG comments

2001-06-16 Thread Kenneth Waller
Gianfranco, thanks for the comments. I appreciate you taking the time. Ken Waller - Original Message - From: Gianfranco Irlanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 8:49 PM Subject: Late PUG comments > Hi everybody, > I know I'm a bit late but unfort

Re: MZ-S and More ?

2001-06-16 Thread Rob Studdert
On 17 Jun 2001, at 0:32, Pentax Clover wrote: > I need to say this ! > By talking about MZ-S with all the list, I get agree it is a very good SLR > But, it is also a SLR with missing features for me and have extra features I do > not need > > Second, sometimes, I do express what average people w

Re: Digital Film (WAS: RE: CCD back for Pentax?)

2001-06-16 Thread Nicholas Wright
Oh, definetly. But at an expected MSRP of $7000 it will be a little while before I can afford that. I am hoping to see a pro level digital camera with the exposure control of the z1p. Nick --- Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Personally, I am waiting with anticipation to see > what Pentax's dig

Re: More about stiff aperture rings

2001-06-16 Thread Rob Studdert
On 15 Jun 2001, at 22:07, Cotty wrote: > But - what happens when you squeeze a metal aperture ring? Answer, > nothing. The fact it is metal means that it holds its shape. When you > squeeze a plastic/poly-something aperture ring, it changes shape from a > true circle, very very slightly, but j

Re: Digital Film (WAS: RE: CCD back for Pentax?)

2001-06-16 Thread Rob Studdert
On 17 Jun 2001, at 8:43, Jeff wrote: > All in all, I shot about 500 shots with a huge amount going into the Trash > but at least next time, I know what I should and shouldn't be doing! ...and then you can take a real camera ... with film :-) Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-

Re: Pentax - better or not?

2001-06-16 Thread Pentax Clover
Hello here is the answer a friend of mine wish to tell you about minolta : MINOLTA n'utilise pas, comme le prétend ton interlocuteur de "base de données" pour la détermination de l'expo. Celle ci se fait, depuis le 7 xi, par le système fuzzy logic, "logique floue" en Français. Chaque paramètre de

Re: Pentax CCD spec V0.1 was (Pentax CCD back design)

2001-06-16 Thread Rob Studdert
On 16 Jun 2001, at 22:51, Philippe Trottier wrote: > I know that part :-(( but hey I have the scope ... and since it is a small > series (I would not > dream of more than 50 units max) then we can white bal all of them one by > one with the scop Hi Philippe, This little project is sounding quit

Re: Digital Film (WAS: RE: CCD back for Pentax?)

2001-06-16 Thread Jeff
Personally, I am waiting with anticipation to see what Pentax's digital SLR offering will be (will it ever come?) before I take the plunge with any half-hearted solutions. A few weekends ago, I spent the weekend at the track with my brother's Canon D30 shooting handheld with his 80-200/2.8.

Re: MZ-S and More ?

2001-06-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Pentax Clover" > You know that even Pro who use Nikon F-5 regulary check the SLR, even Leica > M6 user... > I really hope the MZ-S is as reliable as you say ! > But of course. This is an area where Pentax could really learn a lesson or two from the competit

Re: pentax lenses...

2001-06-16 Thread Steve Barbour
Me too..could you check the URL and send again please...Steve - Original Message - From: "Frank Theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 3:28 PM Subject: Re: pentax lenses... > Hmmm... I've tried that url a couple of times now, and got 404-ed

Re: pentax lenses...

2001-06-16 Thread Frank Theriault
Hmmm... I've tried that url a couple of times now, and got 404-ed each time. -frank "Jaros³aw Brzeziñski" wrote: > I believe you can find results of tests of lenses of all makes done at the Hasselblad > lab at the following address: > http://www.photo.se/nav/prodindex.html > > Steve Barbour <[

Late PUG comments

2001-06-16 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
Hi everybody, I know I'm a bit late but unfortunately I've been sick, after being too busy, so... I'd like to mention the images that caught my eye this month, in no particular order: " Bathroom Plan " by Bill Gekas, Australia A nice way to fit the theme. I like the softness of the light and

Late PUG comments

2001-06-16 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
Hi everybody, I know I'm a bit late but unfortunately I've been sick, after being too busy, so... I'd like to mention the images that caught my eye this month, in no particular order: " Bathroom Plan " by Bill Gekas, Australia A nice way to fit the theme. I like the softness of the light and

Re: MZ-S and More ?

2001-06-16 Thread Pentax Clover
From: "Pål Jensen" > I don'æt agree. I'll rather be without features I use once a year. Features cost money or have other drawbacks like higher power consumption. I like features that are being used regularly and are useful and don't want to pay for seldomly used features. Nor do I want to carry

My PUG comments: David Dixon & RK

2001-06-16 Thread Gianfranco Irlanda
Hi everybody, Sorry for being late. I've been sick for a while too long... My comments for this month: " Durham Cathedral " by David Dixon, UK As you state, this shot may be better classified as a landscape, or, maybe, as 'architecture in landscape'. The strenght of the shot is in its colors:

Re: Fw: old mint pentax....

2001-06-16 Thread Jaros³aw Brzeziñski
An invention that definitely comes from East German screw-mount Prakticas is electronic transmission of information about the aperture set from a lens to the camera: three contacts provided this information, albeit it was non-digital communication based on a resistor. Pentax much improved such

Slow Server!!! (was: FA 70-210)

2001-06-16 Thread Joseph Tainter
Slower than ZX-5 autofocus. I posted this on June 12. It showed up on the archive on June 16. Joe > I bought an SMC F 70-210 on ebay a while back. It arrived with aperture blades >stuck. KEH quoted me $110 for an overhaul. I don't know how that compares. > > A power zoom might be more? > > (A

Re: MZ-S and More ?

2001-06-16 Thread Gary L. Murphy
On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 00:01:11 +0200, Pentax Clover wrote: >> . High-speed flash synchronization up to 1/6000 sec. with >> built-in flash or with new AF360FGZ wireless TTL flash unit > >Dawn, I do not believe it... >If this is true, well, MZ-S going to replace my MZ-3... Better start listing your

Re: O. Winston, anybody

2001-06-16 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
My son, Steven, just picked a flash that would use them. It's an old Heiland Research unit, with a battery extension, two cables, and an adapter to use the bayonet bulbs as well as the old large bulbs. He's been thinking of using some of them. I think to blind his brother. He might be intereste

Re: MZ-S and More ?

2001-06-16 Thread Pentax Clover
From: "Pål Jensen" The MZ-S is competitively priced for what it offers. But maybe this is not the most needed features for commons users. That is why it is perceived as expensive _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http:/

Re: pentax lenses...

2001-06-16 Thread Jaros³aw Brzeziñski
I believe you can find results of tests of lenses of all makes done at the Hasselblad lab at the following address: http://www.photo.se/nav/prodindex.html Steve Barbour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napisa³ / wrote: > Is there a web site that gives good quality reviews of the best pentax > lenses includ

RE: Fw: old mint pentax....

2001-06-16 Thread Frits J. Wüthrich
> Yup, you're right, although I've heard "Pentax SM" more often than > "Practika SM." Before I came to this list around 1996 I had only heard of Praktica thread. I guess it depends on where you live. > BTW, was the implementation of automatic aperture on these lenses also > invented by someone e

Re: Special Price - MZ-S

2001-06-16 Thread Grigolia
I also sent clicked on the Special button on the B&H MZ-S page. I received a current discount price "special item number" quote at 5:48:21 pm Friday afternoon. I sent a return email requesting a complete quote to include shipping so that I could pay by check (my normal method of payment

Re: More about stiff aperture rings

2001-06-16 Thread Cotty
>Thank you for your enlightening explanation for why some lenses have stiff >aperture rings. However, I would like to point out that the A*85/1.4 is >not "most lenses". Frank, Point well and truly accepted! :-) Cheers, Cotty ___ Personal

Re: Special Price - MZ-S

2001-06-16 Thread Bob Poe
I tried the 62PEMZDf9b # and B&H emailed me saying that the sale had been discontinued. I'm figuring the sale went beyond their expectations? Cheers, Bob --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Bob, > > Doesn't B&H close on Friday afternoons? > You should try again Sunday. > > The MZ-S didn't show '

Re: MZ-S and More ?

2001-06-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Pentax Clover" Subject: Re: MZ-S and More ? > Yes, but it is funny ! I usually try to make others photo fans understand > that we can make pictures even with P&S ! > And I also need to defend Pentax because in France they often say that > Pentax will stop SL

Re: MZ-S and More ?

2001-06-16 Thread William Robb
Some thoughts on this rather stupid thread below. - Original Message - From: "Pentax Clover" < Subject: Re: MZ-S and More ? > I am OK that the MZ-S is the cheapest all metal, solid AF body out there if > you except the N90s/ F90x. But I am asking myself what is more important > for a pi

Re: Special Price - MZ-S

2001-06-16 Thread Rfsindg
Bob, Doesn't B&H close on Friday afternoons? You should try again Sunday. The MZ-S didn't show 'in-stock' on the web site even at 11:30AM. Use the phone. ...entirely too much enabling going on here now! I'm waiting for the MZ-Sn... Regards, Bob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I tried to o

Re: Penta Russian ?

2001-06-16 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "*" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pdml" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: June 16, 2001 1:26 AM Subject: Penta Russian ? > This link is no more working ? > http://www.penta-club.org/penta/ Looks like Dan is in the process of changing servers. These things can be a bugger

Re: Special Price - MZ-S

2001-06-16 Thread Gary L. Murphy
On Sat, 16 Jun 2001 06:25:53 -0700 (PDT), Bob Poe wrote: >I tried to order one at about 11:45 PM EDT and the >item was "out of stock" The fates are aginst my >having the MZ-S. Don't feel bad, Bob. I too suffered the sight of those three little words, Out of Stock! :-( Later, Gary - This

RE: MZ-S (Please help me understand)

2001-06-16 Thread Jeff Geilenkirchen
Thanks for the feedback all! I totally understand the points being made. I look forward to handling the MZ-S and see for myself if it's worth it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Doug Brewer Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 6:25 PM To: [EMAI

Re: Fw: old mint pentax....

2001-06-16 Thread Tom Rittenhouse
I am not sure about "automatic stop down" which appeared in the late fifties, but Pentax is the originator or the "automatic reopen aperture", the "instant return mirror", and the "behind the lens meter". Pentax had a history of inventing SLR inprovements and licensing them very cheaply to other c

Re: Special Price - MZ-S

2001-06-16 Thread Bob Poe
Bruce, I tried to order one at about 11:45 PM EDT and the item was "out of stock" The fates are aginst my having the MZ-S. Mourning after...Bob --- Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for the forward! I believe I just might jump > on this. Any issues > that I need to be aware of?

Re: Wanted K1000/MX

2001-06-16 Thread Bob Rapp
Older all mechanical Pentax SLRs are indestructible to a point. Since the K1000 has only been out of production for 4 years and still available new in some markets, it still is a viable option. I found 2 over the last 2 months including a pristine all metal 1977 model and a "like new" Hong Kon

My MZ-S came in :-0 !!!!!!

2001-06-16 Thread Matamoros, Cesar A.
I did my usual stop at my photo store. The salesclerk silently came up to me and held out the bosed MZ-S. He said they figured they would let me do the honors of opening it! That's right my MZ-S came in! I had to meet friends for dinner and I fought valiantly to keep the camera

Re: Wanted K1000/MX

2001-06-16 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Tom, They're ok to begin with, but they're old. EBay aside, even a good one has a number of years on it. That's hard to justify, in my mind. Better a newer ZX-M. Decent build and same character -- manual focus and classic manual exposure. Plus Av, Tv, Program, and DOF Preview to boot. And oft

Re: Wanted K1000/MX

2001-06-16 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
Ebay cycles are just like retail stores. Prices drop in the summer because we'd rather be out in the sun than on the computer. Outfits sometimes go really cheap. July is my favorite ebay buying month. Collin * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <

RE: MZ-S and More ?

2001-06-16 Thread Len Paris
Pentax's data sheets/brochures say that the RTF only syncs up to 1/180 sec. I believe that in order to get flash sync to 1/6000 sec we have to buy a brand new flash designed specifically for the MZ-S with that feature. Another $300+ investment, if it's priced close to the AF500FTZ. It's probabl

Re: MZ-S and More ?

2001-06-16 Thread Pål Jensen
Bucky wrote: > And if Nikon had brought it out you'd be sneering at it, and that's a fact > too. Certainly not! If it had been a Nikon I would have considered switching brand. >Dog > forbid anyone should express a preference for another brand! It's like > discussing morality with a fundie

Re: MZ-S and More ?

2001-06-16 Thread Pål Jensen
Clover wrote: > I am OK that the MZ-S is the cheapest all metal, solid AF body out there if > you except the N90s/ F90x. The F90 is plastic and not at all an all metal, solid AF body. Its lens mount flexes with something as light as a 80-200/2.8 and the bottom plate flexes when the camera is

Re: MZ-S Report

2001-06-16 Thread Pål Jensen
John wrote: > I am hoping to hear how the MZ-S shoots with the FA* > 600/4 in the field, especially compared to the PZ1p. Its one of the first thing I'll do on monday weather permitting. > I am surprised to hear your success at shooting in low > light. I would like to know the shutter speed

Re: MZ-S and More ?

2001-06-16 Thread Pål Jensen
Clover wrote: > It is not because you have it on the SLR that mean you need to use it all > time long ! > But, it makes crazy when you need it even once a year because for this day, > I find it is stupid to buy or rent an other SLR just for the need of a day. I don'æt agree. I'll rather be wit

OT: Pre-cut mattes

2001-06-16 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, can anybody tell me if museum-quality archival pre-cut mattes are available in 35mm proportions, please? And if so, perhaps the names of some suppliers, preferably in the UK, but the product name at least should help me find UK suppliers. Ideally these mattes would be on board with the same

Pentax CCD back desigh

2001-06-16 Thread Philippe Trottier
Components list for Pentax CCD back -Pentax back LX and MX for me ... what else ??? -Power supply Linear tech has a cool 90% efficiency power supply for 2 x AA let's make it 4 AA with a hand pack ??? -Mass storage -CCD Ok guys start your search engine... I only found some sony and Natio

BG-10 grip questions

2001-06-16 Thread Carlos Royo
For the ones who have been lucky enough to put their hands on one of those beasts: does the BG-10 also have a magnesium skin, like the MZ-S? And I would like to know too if it is possible to use the AA grip for the rest of the MZ line (Fg) with the MZ-S

Penta Russian ?

2001-06-16 Thread *
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