Re[2]: Next Pentax Flagship Camera?

2002-08-19 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hopefully all the wedding guys work looks better than this one. I wasn't overly impressed. Very snap-shotty looking. I wonder if the smaller sensor leading to greater DOF has any negative impact on the images. I'm guessing that you would want to shoot a little more wide open to get rid of some

Re: Next Pentax Flagship Camera?

2002-08-19 Thread Tim S Kemp
> I note that you no longer have patience to get your processing done like most > on this list (I assume). Last I heard patience is a virtue. You lost it > somewhere. It's not patience, it's invonvenience. If photography is your business then time is money, if it's not then then time processing

Big Fun in North Carolina

2002-08-19 Thread Mark Roberts
Just got back from the Grandfather Mountain Camera Clinic after a very enjoyable weekend. Had an excellent breakfast first thing on Saturday, courtesy of Bill and Phyllis Owens and met the redoubtable Mike Johnston. Met a couple of other PDML members I'd never encountered in person before - Greywo

Economical battery source

2002-08-19 Thread Ken Archer
I am looking for a 510 volt battery for a Sunpak flash and hopefully I won't have to mortgage the house to get one. Anyone know of a discount battery source for the NC510, Part #651-727? -- Kenneth Archer, San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail Lis

28-80 AL vs. Non-AL

2002-08-19 Thread Galen S Swint
Hello List! I purchased a ZX-L with a 28-80 f/3.5-5.6 AL lens. Has anyone been able to get comparisons vs. the non-AL version of this lens (which evidently has a closer focussing distance). While everyone talks about seeing the ZX-L with the 28-90 lens, evidently it is sold in the US kit with a 28

Re: Big Film Developing Tank?

2002-08-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Paul Jones Subject: Big Film Developing Tank? > Hi, > > I am currently using a couple fo B/W film developing cannisters that hold 2 > 35mm rolls or one 120 Roll, i am looking to get a larger cannister so that i > can do 2 rolls of 120 and probaly 4 rolls of 35m

Re: Next Pentax Flagship Camera?

2002-08-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Jim Apilado Subject: Re: Next Pentax Flagship Camera? Jim, you might want to check out this link: http://65.107.211.206/victorian/darwin/darwin1.html Good metaphorical information there about your concern. William Robb > I repeat all those who are going di

Re: Next Pentax Flagship Camera?

2002-08-19 Thread Pål Jensen
Artur wrote: > I don't agree with the point of view stated above (and it has been already > disscussed several times), because the photographic market is not a constant > thing. Conditions change. Yes, Pentax lost the battle, but why do you think > they also lost the whole war? They can and IMHO

Re: Next Pentax Flagship Camera?

2002-08-19 Thread Pål Jensen
Conrad wrote: > I think Pentax decided somewhere to specialise in medium format gear. I still >remember when they brought out their first MF SLR in the early 70's although the name >escapes me now. In all fairness, they have never looked back. Others have come and >gone some more than othe

Re: Next Pentax Flagship Camera?

2002-08-19 Thread Pål Jensen
Cameron wrote: > My guess for the next Limited; a very disappointing 50mm f=1.2 based on > the one from the LX 2000. You guess is wrong. > > Either Pentax will have a whole lot of treats for us at Photokina next > month, or there are going to be a whole lot of disappointed Pentax

Re: Next Pentax Flagship Camera?

2002-08-19 Thread Pal Jensen
Artur wrote: > MZ-S is full of contradictions. There's no contradictions with the MZ-S. >Moreover, lack of promotion and information, > together with a bit too high price (when compared with Dynaxx 7 for example) > and those contradictions don't make its future bright IMHO. Well, it can't be

Re: Next Pentax Flagship Camera?

2002-08-19 Thread Pal Jensen
Artur wrote: > No, the main role for the MF is studio/fashion/commercials/nude (:)) Medium format is the most popular format for landscape photography on a global basis. This is the market Pentax is catering for. The studio market is crowded and Pentax have never shown much interest in it. >

Re: Photokina news

2002-08-19 Thread Pål Jensen
Rüdiger wrote: > New Leica R9 > Successor for the Nikon F5 (digital and analog version) Interesting with rumors of more high-end 35mm slr's. Will Pentax see it as a viable venue as well? > New digital von Olympus with a new lens mount which support also other > companies (Fuji, ..) This one

Re: Next Pentax Flagship Camera?

2002-08-19 Thread Pål Jensen
Alexander wrote: > Just a thought. With talk about a new Pentax digital SLR system, what is the > possibility that the new Pentax 35mm flagship camera is a film/digital > system? I think the possibilities are very slim. With the short lifespan of digital products and the added complexity,

Re: Next Pentax Flagship Camera?

2002-08-19 Thread Pål Jensen
Jim wrote: > I repeat all those who are going digital should form their own list. When I > joined the list digital wasn't even a topic. This is a Pentax discussion forum. Here we discuss Pentax equipment. If Pentax makes digital products then it's a topic. Lets not go back to the weird times

Re: Next Pentax Flagship Camera?

2002-08-19 Thread Pål Jensen
Artur wrote: > Indeed. But I think that the majority of the MF cameras are being used in > studios. IMHO this is where Pentax strategy is quite inconsistent. No, there's nothing incosistent in making cameras indended for outside studio use. Pentax have been very consistent in this. > Yes,

Re: Next Pentax Flagship Camera?

2002-08-19 Thread Pål Jensen
Alan wrote: > In terms of technology, Canon was ahead of Nikon since they introduced the > EOS system, and it was back to 1988? They have "always" been ahead of Nikon in the feature race. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and f

Re: Next Pentax Flagship Camera?

2002-08-19 Thread Pål Jensen
Tim wrote: > So true. Has anyone seen shots from the full frame Contax? It's a disaster. Customers are demanding their money back. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Use

Re: Next Pentax Flagship Camera?

2002-08-19 Thread Pål Jensen
Artur wrote: > Besides, you're wrong about that Pentax supremacy in the MF > segment. The reason is simple - bodies lack interchangeable backs. This is > more important and decisive thing than one would suspect. Not for Pentax who actually specialices in the non-interchangeable back market. The

Re: Next Pentax Flagship Camera?

2002-08-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Tim S Kemp Subject: Re: Next Pentax Flagship Camera? > > I note that you no longer have patience to get your processing done like > most > > on this list (I assume). Last I heard patience is a virtue. You lost it > > somewhere. > > It's not patience, it's invo

fireworks and more

2002-08-19 Thread Amita Guha
I finally got my fireworks photos developed. The compositions are nothing to write home about, but the settings suggested by some of you turned out to be spot-on, so thanks for the help! I ended up with a roll of passable fireworks photos, which I will post at some point. I got my prints back fro

Re: Any word of a forthcoming P645N 55mm AF lens?

2002-08-19 Thread Pål Jensen
Alex wrote: > Pentax has updated 35mm focal length equivalent in both it's 35mm and 67 > lines in the past few years. But what about the 645AF line--any word? I personally haven't heard a thing but considering that three zoom lenses covers the focal length and the fact that the 55mm was the l

GFM Camera Clinic Report (long)

2002-08-19 Thread Bill Owens
Ah, another great weekend with great company, great photo ops and interesting speakers. We arrived home early yesterday evening totally worn out but with wonderful memories and, hopefully, memorable images. Cesar was already there when we arrived and observed the process of setting up "PDML Cent

Re: Next Pentax Flagship Camera?

2002-08-19 Thread Pål Jensen
Bruce wrote: >The support/marketing for the pro > world also has to be in place. I believe this argument is mostly a red herring. Unless you're shooting at the Olympics special pro service hardly exist. All manufacturers makes special arrangements for pros. Pentax MF shooters get equally goo

Re: GFM Camera Clinic Report (long)

2002-08-19 Thread Bill Owens
> Sunday morning and it was time for Aris' program. He is this year's > Southern Photographer of the Year. Being a staff photographer for the > Newark, NY Ledger-Star Whoops, sorry, should be Newark NJ. Bill - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://ww

Old news, good news

2002-08-19 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
As always, Bruce is right and wrong. Pentax is weak/non-existent is some segments (PJ, DSLR) but strong in others like field Medium Format. (Mamiya rules studios & 'Blad rules weddings, Bronica is spotty.) The problem with digital cameras today is not one of resolution or versatility, but of a

Re: Next Pentax Flagship Camera?

2002-08-19 Thread Keith Whaley
Bruce, an honest question, in light of the attitude of disdain displayed in your message... Why are you even a posting member of this list, if you think so little of Pentax? Whaley, Keith "Rubenstein, Bruce M (Bruce)" wrote: > > I have no idea why anyone who shots 35mm for money, and shoots typ

Re[2]: Next Pentax Flagship Camera?

2002-08-19 Thread Bruce Dayton
Mark, Hear hear. When you price some of the backs from other manufacturers, you could almost buy extra bodies if it was so necessary to change films like that. Bruce Monday, August 19, 2002, 8:35:57 AM, you wrote: MR> Pål Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> The battle in the MF market i

Re: Next Pentax Flagship Camera?

2002-08-19 Thread Mark Roberts
Pål Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The battle in the MF market is of course important, but unless Pentax >> introduces interchangeable backs for the 645 and 67, it will not be able to >> win the battle with Contax and Mamiya. This is of course but a personal >> point of view:) > >But Pentax

RE: Next Pentax Flagship Camera?

2002-08-19 Thread Rob Brigham
Yeah. When I looked at the 645N and the 67 at PDML UK, I thought the 67 would be a tad fiddly to change films in the field at times and under certain conditions, but having a couple of preloaded inserts for the 645 would be fine to get around that. > -Original Message- > From: Mark Rober

Re: 67II weird behaviour

2002-08-19 Thread Brian Campbell (pm)
On 18 Aug 2002 at 13:24, Chris Brogden wrote: > I borrowed my Pentax rep's 67II to try it out, and it did something > strange, so I'm wondering how typical this is. Halfway through a roll of > 120, it blanked out the counter on the LCD, made me advance the film a > couple of frames as though it

Re: 28-80 AL vs. Non-AL

2002-08-19 Thread Rüdiger Neumann
The 28-80 AL version is only available in USA. It is not listed in Europa. It is a rebadged Tamrom Zoom. Look a B&H spec infos and you will see that are the same lenses. http://www03.bhphotovideo.com/default.sph/FrameWork.class?FNC=ProductActivat or__Aproductlist_html___242472___PE288035FAAL___RE

Re: 67II weird behaviour

2002-08-19 Thread Mark Roberts
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The only time the camera has ever mis-counted film is when I've >loaded it wrong or forgotten to flip the pressure plate btwn >120 --> 220 or vice versa. > >Brain Kind of a silly mistake for a guy named "Brain"! :-P (Sorry, slow day, couldn't resist.) -- Mark

Re: Next Pentax Flagship Camera?

2002-08-19 Thread Ryan K. Brooks
I was talking about the previous posting, this link is correctly balanced. - Original Message - From: "Herb Chong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 8:19 AM Subject: Re: Next Pentax Flagship Camera? > The D60 is an amazing camera, but these look

OT: Re: GFM Camera Clinic Report (long)

2002-08-19 Thread oscar . 7300
>>> Sunday morning and it was time for Aris' program.He is this year's Southern Photographer of the Year. Being a staff photographer for the Newark, NY Ledger-Star >>Whoops, sorry, should be Newark NJ. Bill We're used to it. I remember a Monday Night Football game broadcast, in the a

28-105/3.2-4.5 FA IF AL

2002-08-19 Thread Cmlillja55
Is this a new Pentax lens or is it a rebaged Tamron? I know there was an IF 28-105 that was a rebadged Tamron with SMC and Pentax electronics. This one's a bit faster. Sorry if this was answered a few minutes ago, I just deleted a bunch of messages. Thanks, Chris L - This message is from the

Re: 67II weird behaviour

2002-08-19 Thread Brian Campbell (pm)
On 19 Aug 2002 at 13:16, Mark Roberts wrote: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >The only time the camera has ever mis-counted film is when I've > >loaded it wrong or forgotten to flip the pressure plate btwn > >120 --> 220 or vice versa. > > > >Brain > > Kind of a silly mistake for a guy n

Re: 28-105/3.2-4.5 FA IF AL

2002-08-19 Thread Brad Dobo
I have what you referred to as the rebadged Tamron with SMC and Pentax electronics. It's the SMCP-FA 28-105mm 1:4-5.6 [IF]. Is it a good lens or should I be looking for a replacement? Chris wrote: > Is this a new Pentax lens or is it a rebaged Tamron? I know there was an IF > 28-105 that was a

Odp: Next Pentax Flagship Camera?

2002-08-19 Thread Artur Ledóchowski
- Original Message - From: Pal Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Next Pentax Flagship Camera? > Medium format is the most popular format for landscape photography on a global basis. This is the market Pentax is catering for. The studio market is crowded and Pentax have never shown

Re: 28-105/3.2-4.5 FA IF AL

2002-08-19 Thread Rüdiger Neumann
This is a new fast very compact Pentax lens. It has the size of the FA 4/28-70 and has less distortion at 28mm as the 28-70. Also the build quality is a bit better. I have it and I'm very pleased with it regards Rüdiger Betreff: 28-105/3.2-4.5 FA IF AL >Is this a new Pentax lens or is it a reb

Re: Re: Macophot IR film in 120

2002-08-19 Thread David Brooks
Thanks Brendan. I received an email from the parent company and the local Markham rep for the Canadian firm,which i will fwd to you and Aaron.I can fwd to the list too. Dave Begin Original Message From: Brendan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 16:12:01 -0400 (EDT) To: [EM

Re: I'm back!

2002-08-19 Thread David Brooks
Just when we thought it was safe to go out in Toronto again:) Welcome back and glad you had fun.Posting some pic's?? Dave Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/

Fwd: Cube 400 C

2002-08-19 Thread David Brooks
I thought i'd fwd this reply incase anyone wants the URL and address of this firm. Cnadaian rep for the film i'm told Dave Begin Included Message From: "Mike Boylan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 10:34:52 -0400 To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Cube 400 C Hello, If you

Fwd: Re: Cube400c Question

2002-08-19 Thread David Brooks
For those who are trying or are curiuos about this film. Dave Begin Included Message From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 19 Aug 2002 07:12:34 UT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cube400c Question Dear Dave, thank you for the email. The MACO CUBE 400c is a very special kind of film.

Re: which one: SMCP FA 20mm 2.8 pentax or 20mm F/1.8 EX DG Sigma?

2002-08-19 Thread Rob Studdert
On 19 Aug 2002 at 19:10, Tom Reese wrote: > I have some serious hots for a 20mm fixed length lens and I've narrowed down my > choice to either the Sigma 1.8 or the Pentax 2.8. I'd buy used Pentax in great > condition but I haven't seen any. Does anyone have any input on the optics of > these two

Re: Next Pentax Flagship Camera?

2002-08-19 Thread Photo1034
In a message dated 8/19/2002 5:01:26 PM US Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > You need one touch of your > > finger to switch between HyP, Av and Tv in Z-1p. You can set the flash > > compensation w/o taking your eye away from the viewfinder in Z-1p. > > You tell me it isn't use

Re: Gossen Luna Pro SBC light meter instructions

2002-08-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Rob Studdert Subject: Re: Gossen Luna Pro SBC light meter instructions > Hi Bill, > > The renaming of the Gossen gear in the US shits me, is your meter the one with > the three LEDs or does it have an analogue movement? Hi Rob, mine has the moving iron meter.

Re: Gossen Luna Pro SBC light meter instructions

2002-08-19 Thread Len Paris
www.craigcamera.com has some. That's where I bought my manual. You can get either an original or a photocopy. Len --- This is a free country: and I have the permits, licenses, stamps, tags, stickers, background checks, and tax receipts to prove it. - Original Message - From: "William

Re: 28-105/3.2-4.5 FA IF AL

2002-08-19 Thread Brad Dobo
Well, I am happy with what I see, but I don't have much confidence in making critiques of photos. Outside of the SMCP-FA 50mm 1:1.4 and the SMCP-FA 100mm 1:2.8 Macro, I have little experience with decent lenses. I did own the cheap(ies) 28-80 and the 100-300, but quickly realized that they were

Re: I'm back!

2002-08-19 Thread Ken Archer
Welcome back, Frank. Today was kind of a return for me as well...I pulled my bike out this morning after 5 years of relative inactivety. I rode for 40 minutes and stayed away from the hills. One thing is for sure. I won't be doing a 100-mile ride for awhile yet but it sure felt good to be

Re: 28-105/3.2-4.5 FA IF AL

2002-08-19 Thread Cmlillja55
In a message dated 8/19/2002 7:53:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I'm trying to justify getting the 24-90mm or the 20-35mm, both I > want really badly :) Yep, those are the ones to have...you'll need both, really... the 20-35/4 is supposed to be really outstanding w

Re: 28-105/3.2-4.5 FA IF AL

2002-08-19 Thread Albert Fekson
When I got my ZX-5N, I chose a Tamron 28-105 as my all-around lens. I liked its build quality, autofocus speed, and the fact that the front element did not rotate. What I despised about it was its "ability" to produce glare even, with hood on, when sun was anywhere within 90 degrees of front eleme

Re: Next Pentax Flagship Camera?

2002-08-19 Thread Chris Brogden
On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, Keith Whaley wrote: > Bruce, an honest question, in light of the attitude of disdain > displayed in your message... > Why are you even a posting member of this list, if you think so little > of Pentax? As much as I disagree with what Bruce says sometimes, I find it hard to a

Re: which one: SMCP FA 20mm 2.8 pentax or 20mm F/1.8 EX DG Sigma?

2002-08-19 Thread Alan Chan
>I have some serious hots for a 20mm fixed length lens and I've narrowed >down >my choice to either the Sigma 1.8 or the Pentax 2.8. I'd buy used Pentax in >great condition but I haven't seen any. Does anyone have any input on the >optics of these two lenses? Is there a compelling reason why I sh

Re: 28-105/3.2-4.5 FA IF AL

2002-08-19 Thread Brad Dobo
Alfred, I'd want the black one too, but here in Canada I have so far only seen the silver ones in the store. :( > Now come the new 28-105 f3.2-4.5; pretty fast, light, IF, hood, ghostless > coating. Looks like I'll be upgrading again! But I want a black version, not > the silver one, and as usual

Re: which one: SMCP FA 20mm 2.8 pentax or 20mm F/1.8 EX DG Sigma?

2002-08-19 Thread Mark Roberts
Tom Reese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I have some serious hots for a 20mm fixed length lens and I've narrowed down >my choice to either the Sigma 1.8 or the Pentax 2.8. I'd buy used Pentax in >great condition but I haven't seen any. Does anyone have any input on the >optics of these two lenses? I

Re: 28-105/3.2-4.5 FA IF AL

2002-08-19 Thread Mark Roberts
"Brad Dobo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Well, I am happy with what I see, but I don't have much confidence in making >critiques of photos. Outside of the SMCP-FA 50mm 1:1.4 and the SMCP-FA >100mm 1:2.8 Macro, I have little experience with decent lenses. Gadzooks, man! But what a pair of lense

Gossen Luna Pro SBC light meter instructions

2002-08-19 Thread Tom Reese
Bill, The Bogen people are great. I bought a used Gossen Multi-Pro meter from Adorama and it came without a manual. I called Bogen and they told me they'd send me a new one for $2.00. I sent them the two bucks and I had the manual in the mail two days later. I suggest that you give them a call.

Black Camera Body

2002-08-19 Thread Richard Chu
I just bought a Pentax Super A (same as the Super Program in the US except that it is an all black body). The black finish is quite worn at the edges near the bottom and at a small spot near the top. Is it possible to touch up the body with black paint? What kind of paint would you recommend?

Re: Black Camera Body

2002-08-19 Thread Rob Studdert
On 19 Aug 2002 at 19:29, Richard Chu wrote: > I just bought a Pentax Super A (same as the Super > Program in the US except that it is an all black > body). The black finish is quite worn at the edges > near the bottom and at a small spot near the top. Is > it possible to touch up the body with

Re: Black Camera Body

2002-08-19 Thread Richard Chu
Looking at the bottom of the camera, I see that there are three screws (actually, there is another one at the center of the winder coupler). Does the bottom plate come off when these three screws are removed? Anything I need to watch out for? --- Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 19

Re: Gossen Luna Pro SBC light meter instructions

2002-08-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Len Paris Subject: Re: Gossen Luna Pro SBC light meter instructions > www.craigcamera.com has some. That's where I bought my manual. > You can get either an original or a photocopy. Thanks Len. Bill - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To uns

Re: Black Camera Body

2002-08-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Richard Chu Subject: Black Camera Body > I just bought a Pentax Super A (same as the Super > Program in the US except that it is an all black > body). The black finish is quite worn at the edges > near the bottom and at a small spot near the top. Is > it poss

Re: Gossen Luna Pro SBC light meter instructions

2002-08-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Tom Reese Subject: Gossen Luna Pro SBC light meter instructions > Bill, > > The Bogen people are great. I bought a used Gossen Multi-Pro meter from > Adorama and it came without a manual. I called Bogen and they told me they'd > send me a new one for $2.00. I s

Re: Next Pentax Flagship Camera?

2002-08-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Chris Brogden Subject: Re: Next Pentax Flagship Camera? > Hard to argue with this, except to point out the uselessness of "amateur" > and "pro" as general terms. Actually, no. The terminology is very germaine to the discussion. "Pro" means the type of equipme

Re: Vs: Next Pentax Flagship Camera?

2002-08-19 Thread Artur Ledóchowski
Użytkownik Raimo Korhonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napisał: >The MZ-S owner´s manual does not mention any contradictions. Can you elaborate? I can. What is contradictory about MZ-S is that the camera, that is claimed to be a successor of Z-1p on the flagship position, is both more and less advanced t

Re: Black Camera Body

2002-08-19 Thread Rob Studdert
On 19 Aug 2002 at 20:57, Richard Chu wrote: > Looking at the bottom of the camera, I see that there > are three screws (actually, there is another one at > the center of the winder coupler). Does the bottom > plate come off when these three screws are removed? > Anything I need to watch out for

Re: brochure pics

2002-08-19 Thread george de fockert
- Original Message - From: "Rüdiger Neumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 2:52 PM Subject: Re: brochure pics > That are nice brochures, especialy the one about the Pentax lenses. It is a > pity, that they are not in english. > Does anyone kn

Re: Re: Next Pentax Flagship Camera?

2002-08-19 Thread Artur Ledóchowski
[EMAIL PROTECTED] napisał: >Your knowledge is wothy of respect, but don't assume that >every one of your judgements constitutes a fact. This is exactly, what I tried to express. Thanx Artur - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follo

Re: Re: Odp: Next Pentax Flagship Camera?

2002-08-19 Thread Artur Ledóchowski
Alan Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Different opinions are expected, as always, just don't take it personal. :) Sometimes it's very hard not to take it personal. I wonder if I'm really the only one PDML'er who thinks that Z-1p is user friendly and easy to master, the only one who feels that M

Re: Re: Odp: Next Pentax Flagship Camera?

2002-08-19 Thread Rob Studdert
On 20 Aug 2002 at 8:56, Artur Led¢chowski wrote: > Sometimes it's very hard not to take it personal. > I wonder if I'm really the only one PDML'er who thinks that Z-1p is user > friendly and easy to master, the only one who feels that MZ-S is not as good as > it could and should have been. I won