Re: PESO - Protesters

2009-12-19 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Thank You Graydon! I've always felt that the vegans vegitarians were looking down on us meat eaters. I'm really sorry that you feel that some vegans and vegetarians look down on you. Maybe some do, but for myself,

Re: PESO - Protesters

2009-12-19 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: snip For the most part, the food industry does what it can to provide us with meats with the minimal harm and trauma. snip That is an inaccurate statement. Simply put, it's wrong. I'm not going to argue, but please do

Re: PESO - Protesters

2009-12-19 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 12:22 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: Reading, somewhat backwards timewise... well said Joe!  'We', our society, slaughters thousands, millions actually. of human lives, in foolish, stupid, greedy wars... a far less noble effort than feeding our families. snip That

Re: PESO - Protesters

2009-12-19 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 10:42 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: LOL... I haven't followed this thread up to now... One of my favorite sayings: I didn't make it to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian. :-) What about all those bad animals that are not vegetarians themselves? The

Re: Photographer arrested at mall

2009-12-19 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Doug Franklin jehosep...@mindspring.com wrote: On 2009-12-18 20:46, frank theriault wrote: That being said a small majority [...]                          ^^^ Typo or subversive/cynical commentary!? :-)  Did the NSA record your IP address on that one? :-

Re: OT: suprising lack of spine for a vertebrate

2009-12-19 Thread mike wilson
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: Re: OT: suprising lack of spine for a vertebrate From the SL I was quite certain that you were talking about our prime minister, Stephen Harper and his (non)performance in Copenhagen. I'm hardly in a position

Re: PESO - A Pigeon Walked Through

2009-12-19 Thread mike wilson
Larry Colen wrote: On Dec 17, 2009, at 9:02 PM, frank theriault wrote: For some reason the pizza box caught my eye, and I thought maybe that and the round manhole cover might look interesting together. Then, a pigeon walked through:

Re: PESO - Protesters

2009-12-19 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Dec 19, 2009, at 00:21 , frank theriault wrote: On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: snip For the most part, the food industry does what it can to provide us with meats with the minimal harm and trauma. snip That is an inaccurate statement. Simply

Re: PESO - Protesters

2009-12-19 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Dec 19, 2009, at 00:23 , frank theriault wrote: On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 12:22 AM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: Reading, somewhat backwards timewise... well said Joe! 'We', our society, slaughters thousands, millions actually. of human lives, in foolish, stupid, greedy wars... a far less

Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-19 Thread Brian Walters
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 22:05 -0500, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: I'd give the nod to the second-last; nice rotor-mist. Do you have fixed-wing water bombers? Watching those re-water is quite spectacular. No - according to those who are supposed to know about such things, water bombers

Re: FS: Friday - K20D Body

2009-12-19 Thread eckinator
as in you picked up a K-7? 2009/12/19 Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com: K20D body only. Less than 6000 cycles. Like new with the exception of two parallel 1/8 long scratches on the LCD Screen in the upper left hand corner (a rock reached out and grabbed it!). All other aspects are as new.

Re: Photographer arrested at mall

2009-12-19 Thread Cotty
I think this whole thread shows that the world is a different place it was just 10 or 15 years ago. For my part, when I'm not working (and if I'm carrying a stills camera) I would not go into a shopping mall with the intention of taking photographs - unless (let's say) I was maybe doing project

Re: Photographer arrested at mall

2009-12-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/12/09, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: What you must remember is that shopping malls - although some say are 'public spaces' - are in fact privately owned and operated and guess what - the owners make the rules. If they say no photography of any kind, you're out of luck. I will just

Re: Photographer arrested at mall

2009-12-19 Thread eckinator
Having just reread the entire thread, instead of reiterating opinion (most absolutely anything I'd have to say has been said either in this thread or another either by others or by myself) I want to leave it at saying how sad I think it is that we've taken our society (yes it was ourselves, we

Re: Photographer arrested at mall

2009-12-19 Thread Rob Studdert
On 19/12/2009, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: Single males carrying cameras with long lenses pointing at children will raise concerns anywhere, especially in malls. What you must remember is that shopping malls - although some say are 'public spaces' - are in fact privately owned and operated

WTB: 77mm 1.8 limited

2009-12-19 Thread Carlos R
I have been saving for the last few months in order to buy a portrait lens, and finally I have made my mind and thought that the 77 limited would be my best bet. But with the recent price hikes, I am afraid I can't afford buying it new, so if one of you is thinking about selling this lens in

RE: 77mm 1.8 limited

2009-12-19 Thread SV Hovland
Mine is for sale in Norway for NOK 6.500,- (€800,-). That is about 35% off the new in shop price in Norway, but perhaps to close to European prices? A cheaper alternative would be DA70/2,4 Limited. SV Hovland -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net

Re: Photographer arrested at mall

2009-12-19 Thread Cotty
In Oz unless otherwise sing posted all publicly accessible places are photo-zones I think we're on the same hymn sheet. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow

Re: PESO - Protesters

2009-12-19 Thread Graydon
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 03:17:46AM -0500, frank theriault scripsit: While that's regretable, and maybe even wrong, that's no rationalization for harming animals by raising livestock in horrible conditions for the sole purpose of killing them for their meat. Of course not! The meat we eat

Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-19 Thread Graydon
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 09:22:13PM +1100, Brian Walters scripsit: On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 22:05 -0500, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: I'd give the nod to the second-last; nice rotor-mist. Do you have fixed-wing water bombers? Watching those re-water is quite spectacular. No - according

Re: 77mm 1.8 limited

2009-12-19 Thread Carlos R
SV Hovland escribió: Mine is for sale in Norway for NOK 6.500,- (€800,-). That is about 35% off the new in shop price in Norway, but perhaps to close to European prices? A cheaper alternative would be DA70/2,4 Limited. Thanks for your answer. Prices around here (EU) are cheaper, in spite

Re: Vancouver 2010 Olympics

2009-12-19 Thread David J Brooks
Not planning to go. There would be WAY to many people there for my liking.;-) The wife watches this stuff, i can take it or leave it. I do watch the hockey. Dave On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 1:45 AM, gldnbearz gldnbearz.p...@gmail.com wrote: Is anyone going? Is anyone in the vicinity?  Or is

Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-19 Thread David J Brooks
Love the first shot. Dave On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 2:24 AM, Brian Walters supera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: G'day all We have a serious bushfire burning a few km to the east of us.  It's downwind of us so that's good - but not good for those in that direction. As I write another Erikson Air

PESO - You can never have...

2009-12-19 Thread Scott Loveless
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/-1rUeu6HUyGdcJopN9Y0pQ?feat=directlink ...too much snow! -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the

Re: PESO - Protesters

2009-12-19 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 5:00 AM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: I recently spent almost two years on the coast of California west of Santa Rosa. I had to drive 34 miles to get to Santa Rosa, and another 70 miles if I wanted to go to San Francisco from there. On the coast, most

Re: PESO - Protesters

2009-12-19 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 5:04 AM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: I like meat. That's my reason for eating it. Same reason as any of the animals lower in the food chain kill animals that are lower than they are. Tastes good. Easy source of energy. Look, I like meat, too. That's

Re: PESO - Protesters

2009-12-19 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: snip The beef I eat is grass-fed, comes from the Bruce Peninsula, and doesn't even cost that much.  (Farm kid; I know what meat is supposed to be like, so I don't buy any from supermarkets.) snip Excellent. If one chooses to

Re: Photographer arrested at mall

2009-12-19 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 6:16 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: snip Saturday morning, cold and bright outside, coffee sinking in, just a few thoughts. The weather is the same here. I'm going to take a walk with my camera, have a coffee at my favorite cafe, do some Christmas shopping and shoot

PESO - At the Commons

2009-12-19 Thread frank theriault
One of my favorite coffee shops is The Commons. I looked up at the wall and saw this, and liked the way it looked: http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/12/at-commons.html Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson --

Re: PESO - You can never have...

2009-12-19 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/-1rUeu6HUyGdcJopN9Y0pQ?feat=directlink ...too much snow! Beautiful! Fun shot, Scott. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML

Re: PESO - Protesters

2009-12-19 Thread Graydon
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 10:28:16AM -0500, frank theriault scripsit: We're omnivores. We don't ~need~ meat to live. We can choose whether to eat meat or not. Can eat meat if you feel like it but don't have to is facultative omnivore, which category covers more or less every

RE: PESO - Protesters

2009-12-19 Thread Bob W
A few years ago author Michael Pollan (The Omnivore's Dilemma) wrote this piece about the life of beef cattle for the New York Times. I believe it may have ended up a chapter in the above book. The article is not for the squeamish:

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-19 Thread Christine Aguila
- Original Message - From: steve harley p...@paper-ape.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 10:22 AM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? On 2009-12-17 18:06 , Christine Aguila wrote: No, can you recommend one, Tim?

Re: PESO - Protesters

2009-12-19 Thread Graydon
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 10:35:25AM -0500, frank theriault scripsit: On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: snip So I wouldn't particularly say the twelve to eighteen months is cruel; it does matter a lot how the animal is killed, though, and the conditions of its

Re: OT: suprising lack of spine for a vertebrate

2009-12-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: Re: OT: suprising lack of spine for a vertebrate William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: Re: OT: suprising lack of spine for a vertebrate From the SL I was quite certain that you were

Re: PESO - Protesters

2009-12-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Tom C Subject: Re: PESO - Protesters What about all those bad animals that are not vegetarians themselves? They don't taste so good, so we don't eat them. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO - Protesters

2009-12-19 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: frank theriault Subject: Re: PESO - Protesters That's not exactly letting nature take its course and Nature has a long history of not taking it's course where animal husbandry is concerned. North American food animals wouldn't exist (or at least not as

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-19 Thread Christine Aguila
- Original Message - From: Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 11:35 AM Subject: Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions? At 9:14 AM -0600 12/18/09, Christine Aguila wrote: From: Steve Sharpe

Re: Photographer arrested at mall

2009-12-19 Thread Bob Sullivan
Cool and light snow in Chicago, but the East Coast is getting hit with a big storm. Chicago's football team had a mechanical delay on their flight to Baltimore yesterday. The airport closed them out. They are going to try again today for Sunday's game. Here's a shot from this morning's outing...

Re: 2010 PUG themes

2009-12-19 Thread Christine Aguila
- Original Message - From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 11:22 AM Subject: Re: 2010 PUG themes From: P. J. Alling I'd have to submit something to Pentax to get a few rejects. I don't think I could stand the aggravation. On

PESO - Snow Traces #4 (Smashed Leaf)

2009-12-19 Thread eactivist
I rather like this one, the abstraction of it. Or sort of abstraction. http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/snow5.htm Comments welcome. Marnie aka Doe :-) (Now everyone else is getting snow, I am behind the curve. But, hey, ours was unusual!)

Re: Blonde and Crew

2009-12-19 Thread Christine Aguila
That's fun. I might up the contrast just a tad maybe sharpen just a tad. Caught them in good stride, Sandra :-). Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Sandra Hermann jeepgirls2...@yahoo.com To: pdml@pdml.net Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 2:56 PM Subject: PESO: Blonde and

Re: PESO - Protesters

2009-12-19 Thread Bob Sullivan
Frank, I get pissed when the same group of pdml'ers start beating the drums again about what a bad lot we are over here in N. America. I'm tired of the I'm right / We're superior attitude that comes along with the posts. You're not doing it, but I get it from others. As to proof of Graydon's

Re: PESO - Protesters

2009-12-19 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: Why is that not letting nature take it's course? We're part of nature. We've decided to draw a line between things natural and artificial. I think we ~should~ act as if we're an integral part of the ecosystem, but we don't.

Re: PESO - Protesters

2009-12-19 Thread Tom C
I'm not a hunter but I have friends that are. They had a Meat Party and each brought something they had downed. The best thing there was the smoked mountain lion. I would never hunt unless I was desperate for food, and I'd definitely rather shoot a mountain lion with my camera than with a rifle.

Re: PESO - Protesters

2009-12-19 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Frank, I get pissed when the same group of pdml'ers start beating the drums again about what a bad lot we are over here in N. America.  I'm tired of the I'm right / We're superior attitude that comes along with the

Re: Photographer arrested at mall

2009-12-19 Thread John Graves
I have to add that most policeman are great people and doing things that at times are scary as hell. They are well trained and will give you the shirt off their backs if the circumstances call for it. Mall cops are not policemen, although they could be wannabes. The really scary thing is

Re: PESO - Protesters

2009-12-19 Thread Bob Sullivan
Frank, Who is the arbiter of what 'ethical' is? Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 11:04 AM, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: Why is that not letting nature take it's course? We're part of nature.

Re: PESO - Snow Traces #4 (Smashed Leaf)

2009-12-19 Thread Bob Sullivan
Marnie, You keep after this girl and you're gonna be a regular snow demon! Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 10:24 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I rather like this one, the abstraction of  it. Or sort of  abstraction. http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/snow5.htm Comments  

Re: PESO - Protesters

2009-12-19 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Frank, Who is the arbiter of what 'ethical' is? I just said that I wasn't going to participate in this thread any longer, but if you direct a question to me... ;-) Okay, I'm that arbiter. You are. We all are. One

Re: PESO - You can never have...

2009-12-19 Thread David J Brooks
Hiding a rust spot are we./?? Dave On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/-1rUeu6HUyGdcJopN9Y0pQ?feat=directlink ...too much snow! -- Scott Loveless http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML

Re: PESO - Protesters

2009-12-19 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote: A good friend of mine is a vegan, and she works in a restaurant.  She has one pair of leather shoes to wear to work because she says everything else she's tried just didn't hold up.  She also eats honey, which

Re: Does anybody miss the new equipment discussions?

2009-12-19 Thread Steve Sharpe
Looks like the local camera store has the K20D on sale, so I'm gonna try to snag one! Cool! Looking forward to seeing your 1st pics! Cheers, Christine Ack! They're holding one for me! I pick it up on the 28th! Woo Hoo, just in time for the New Year! Cheers, Christine Lots of winter

Re: PESO - Snow Traces #4 (Smashed Leaf)

2009-12-19 Thread David J Brooks
I like this one. Dave On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 11:24 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I rather like this one, the abstraction of  it. Or sort of  abstraction. http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/snow5.htm Comments  welcome. Marnie aka Doe  :-) (Now everyone else is getting snow, I  am

Re: 2010 PUG themes

2009-12-19 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/18/09, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: P. J. Alling I'd have to submit something to Pentax to get a few rejects.  I don't think I could stand the aggravation.  It was discussed as a

Re: PESO - Protesters

2009-12-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/12/09, Bob Sullivan, discombobulated, unleashed: I get pissed when the same group of pdml'ers start beating the drums again about what a bad lot we are over here in N. America. Totally bad ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche --

On Coming to Chicago--One--Links

2009-12-19 Thread Christine Aguila
Hi Everyone: ***A FEW MAP LINKS*** *An ok map of DOWNTOWN Chicago, in caps because there's much to the north south of downtown ( I'm not talking about the suburbs; I'm talking Chicago Proper) Dank Haus is on the North side of the city. Pretty good listing of sites to see, though

Re: PESO - Protesters

2009-12-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/12/09, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed: At least bee's are not raised in small cages. Oh, great! Time to roll out my favourite bee joke :-) * ** Two beekeepers are chatting. One says to the

Re: Photographer arrested at mall

2009-12-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/12/09, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: The weather is the same here. I'm going to take a walk with my camera, have a coffee at my favorite cafe, do some Christmas shopping and shoot some pictures. ;-) Hope you had a good morning out mate. We're due snow tonight so am saying

Re: PESO: Blonde and Crew

2009-12-19 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Sandra Hermann jeepgirls2...@yahoo.com wrote: This was a spur of the moment shot with my new PS. I should have gone inside and gotten the real camera and my longish lens, but I didn't know how much time I would have. It is a lovely day to be outside right

Re: PESO - 208 - GDG

2009-12-19 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com wrote: Winter, dry land, whimsy and wind ...  http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com/208-water comments always appreciated, thanks for looking! Beautifully rendered, interesting composition and textures. Like it! cheers,

Happy Holidays!

2009-12-19 Thread paul stenquist
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Re: Happy Holidays!

2009-12-19 Thread Jack Davis
What a treasure! She needs a big red bow in her hair. ;) Thanks, Paul! Best wishes to you and the family. Jack --- On Sat, 12/19/09, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: From: paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net Subject: Happy Holidays! To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Photographer arrested at mall

2009-12-19 Thread Ken Waller
The Weather channel last nite had a piece on Boone, N.C. - close to GFM - stating it had gotten somethimg like a foot of snow was expecting more. Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: PESO - Protesters

2009-12-19 Thread Ken Waller
Lazy ! ;-} Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Tom C caka...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO - Protesters I'm not a hunter but I have friends that are. They had a Meat Party and each brought something they had downed. The best thing there was the

Re: PESO - Protesters

2009-12-19 Thread Bertil Holmberg
Crocs are very durable and comfortable. They have some discreet models that might be acceptable even in a posh place. Use them myself daily, both at home and at the hospital where I work. Bertil A good friend of mine is a vegan, and she works in a restaurant. ?She has one pair of leather

Re: PESO - Protesters

2009-12-19 Thread Ken Waller
Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO - Protesters On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote: A good friend of mine is a vegan, and she works in a restaurant.

Re: PESO - Protesters

2009-12-19 Thread paul stenquist
On Dec 19, 2009, at 4:31 PM, Bertil Holmberg wrote: Crocs are very durable and comfortable. They have some discreet models that might be acceptable even in a posh place. Crocs are good to eat as well. I've had fried crocodile at a restaurant in Detroit called Fishbones. Dipped in a nice

Re: Happy Holidays!

2009-12-19 Thread Bob Sullivan
Terriffic Paul, that's a great shot and card. Happy holidays to you and your family. Bob S. On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 2:26 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10372872 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO - Snow Traces #4 (Smashed Leaf)

2009-12-19 Thread eactivist
In a message dated 12/19/2009 9:36:00 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, rf.sulli...@gmail.com writes: Marnie, You keep after this girl and you're gonna be a regular snow demon! Regards, Bob S. === Thanks, Bob. -- I like this one. Dave Thanks, Dave. Marnie aka Doe

Re: PESO - Snow Traces #4 (Smashed Leaf)

2009-12-19 Thread paul stenquist
Excellent shot. A nice composition and interesting juxtaposition. Paul On Dec 19, 2009, at 5:02 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 12/19/2009 9:36:00 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, rf.sulli...@gmail.com writes: Marnie, You keep after this girl and you're gonna be a regular

Re: PESO - Protesters

2009-12-19 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 4:34 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Crocs are good to eat as well. snip I'm sure they'd feel the same way about you. ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO - Protesters

2009-12-19 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Dec 19, 2009, at 07:28 , frank theriault wrote: Our teeth have evolved to both tear at meat or chew a cud of celery stalk. Make good use of them. See, now again, this rather agitates me. Sounds very much like you're advocating that I eat meat. You didn't say I make good use of them. I

Re: PESO - Snow Traces #4 (Smashed Leaf)

2009-12-19 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 11:24 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: I rather like this one, the abstraction of  it. Or sort of  abstraction. http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/snow5.htm Kind of sad, really. Under the snow/ice, with a tire track running over it... Nice one, Marnie. cheers,

Re: PESO - Protesters

2009-12-19 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: What I was saying was whatever your diet, you can make good use of your teeth. Excellent advice. Should have used and between meat xxx chew Right. I see now. I utilize all my teeth. Both celery strings and beef

Re: Photographer arrested at mall

2009-12-19 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: The Weather channel last nite had a piece on Boone, N.C. - close to GFM - stating it had gotten somethimg like a foot of snow was expecting more. Hope Greywolf is all battened down... cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a

Re: PESO - Protesters

2009-12-19 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Dec 19, 2009, at 07:35 , frank theriault wrote: All factory-farmed beef cattle being killed at that age is cruel. They never get the chance to live longer. We've artificially, for our own purposes, determined that they all die based on economic principles. That's not exactly letting nature

Re: PESO - Protesters

2009-12-19 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: Substitute asparagus, broccoli, peas, corn and many other types of produce for the words beef cattle. Why isn't it the same thing? If you can't tell the difference between vegetables and cattle then little will be

Re: Happy Holidays!

2009-12-19 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 3:26 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10372872 Tell me that's your Christmas card!! OMG, how cute is that? She's so precious, and you've captured it so well! Thanks for posting that one. cheers, frank --

Re: PESO - Protesters

2009-12-19 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Dec 19, 2009, at 13:31 , Bertil Holmberg wrote: Crocs are very durable and comfortable. They have some discreet models that might be acceptable even in a posh place. Use them myself daily, both at home and at the hospital where I work. Is this an attempt to swing the topic of

Re: PESO - Protesters

2009-12-19 Thread paul stenquist
On Dec 19, 2009, at 5:25 PM, frank theriault wrote: On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: Substitute asparagus, broccoli, peas, corn and many other types of produce for the words beef cattle. Why isn't it the same thing? If you can't tell the

Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-19 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Graydon o...@uniserve.com wrote: I was thinking more of the CL415, which is a self-reloading flying boat, and which would have an issue with large lakes. Though the nice folks at Bombardier claim you don't need a straight path to refill, and that water 2m

Re: PESO - Protesters

2009-12-19 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 5:29 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: I'm not sure that it's true, but I've heard that celery has a higher IQ and more awareness than a chicken;-). I'm sure that's true once the chicken becomes a McNugget. ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a

Re: Vancouver 2010 Olympics

2009-12-19 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 9:57 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: snip I do watch the hockey. Going for Gold, baby!!! cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Photographer arrested at mall

2009-12-19 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault wrote: On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: The Weather channel last nite had a piece on Boone, N.C. - close to GFM - stating it had gotten somethimg like a foot of snow was expecting more. Hope Greywolf is all battened down... My friends in

Re: Happy Holidays!

2009-12-19 Thread paul stenquist
Thanks Frank. Yep, that's my Christmas card. No paper! Paul On Dec 19, 2009, at 5:27 PM, frank theriault wrote: On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 3:26 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10372872 Tell me that's your Christmas card!! OMG, how

Re: PESO - Protesters

2009-12-19 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Dec 19, 2009, at 14:25 , frank theriault wrote: On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: Substitute asparagus, broccoli, peas, corn and many other types of produce for the words beef cattle. Why isn't it the same thing? If you can't tell the

Re: Happy Holidays!

2009-12-19 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 5:35 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks Frank. Yep, that's my Christmas card. No paper! BTW, I forgot to mention that what I like most about it is that you can see her great big smile without seeing her teeth - all in her eyes! Terrific. cheers,

Re: Happy Holidays!

2009-12-19 Thread David J Brooks
Lovely. I'm off for two weeks.:-) Gave a great holiday everyone. Dave On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 3:26 PM, paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10372872 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: FS: Friday - K20D Body

2009-12-19 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Dec 19, 2009, at 03:04 , eckinator wrote: as in you picked up a K-7? Not until I sell both K20Ds, 3 LXs, an MX, a Program-A, boxes of accessories and a handful of lenses I'm unlikely to use again. It makes little sense for me at my age to horde optics that someone younger and more

Re: PESO - Protesters

2009-12-19 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: My point was that the natural lives of all of these items are truncated at some point for consumption by some life form, especially us! We do not wait for the apple to fall from the tree to eat it. The apples job is to

Re: Photographer arrested at mall

2009-12-19 Thread Stan Halpin
On Dec 18, 2009, at 9:41 PM, John Sessoms wrote: I'm sure the photographer WAS being an arsehole, or actually an asshole, since it happened in the US. In the United States, being an asshole is a a right protected by the First Amendment. Many would suggest that it is a right protected by

Re: Photographer arrested at mall

2009-12-19 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: On Dec 18, 2009, at 9:41 PM, John Sessoms wrote: I'm sure the photographer WAS being an arsehole, or actually an asshole, since it happened in the US. In the United States, being an asshole is a a right

Re: PESO - A Pigeon Walked Through

2009-12-19 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 11:51 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Coo(l). Weird combination.  I like it. Thanks to everyone who looked, commented and made puns. ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: PESO - You can never have...

2009-12-19 Thread Joseph McAllister
Priceless!:-) I bet by now it's much deeper! On Dec 19, 2009, at 07:16 , Scott Loveless wrote: http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/-1rUeu6HUyGdcJopN9Y0pQ?feat=directlink ...too much snow! Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com http://gallery.me.com/jomac

Re: PESO - Snow Traces #3 (Snowed Leaf)

2009-12-19 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 1:58 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Probably trite, but I haven't even been able to  play with trite snow images before, so I enjoyed  it. http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/snow4.htm I like this one better than the one squarshed under the ice with the tire track

Re: Geso Photos from the Olympic torch run December 17th

2009-12-19 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 1:31 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: As i mentioned yesterday, the winter Olympic torch relay went through Stouffville on Thursday. I just uploaded these to jalbum, no adjustments. http://www.caughtinmotion.com/2009-torchrun/album/index.html You

Re: two more years

2009-12-19 Thread frank theriault
On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote: I've just renewed the PDML registration for another two years. Let's keep it going. You bastard! More endless hours stuck in front of the 'puter discussing veganism, Second Amendment rights, police harassment of mall

Re: Happy Holidays!

2009-12-19 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Dec 19, 2009, at 12:26 , paul stenquist wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=10372872 Totally great! Excellent Holiday Card... Listen, we won't get in trouble for looking at Gracie, will we? I'm an old guy with a camera and long lenses! Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “If

Re: A Small GESO - Firefighting Helicopters

2009-12-19 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Dec 19, 2009, at 14:30 , frank theriault wrote: Bah! Just bring in some good ol' Canadian bush pilots. They could load those waterbombers to capacity out of an Olympic sized swimming pool! ;-) With a six foot fence around it to boot! :-) Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com “ The

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