Re: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-22 Thread John Francis
Henk Terhell mused: Another question I have on this subject, does anybody know if you can delete EXIF data in Photoshop, supposing you don't want to share your camera settings with others? Resaving in Irfanview does provide this option, but I cannot figure out in PS Elements 3 how to do

RE: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-22 Thread Henk Terhell
That works indeed. Pretty useful, this save for web option. Thanks for clearing up my mused state. Henk -Original Message- From: John Francis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 February, 2005 9:09 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: AW: AW: Change File Attributes Henk Terhell

Re: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-22 Thread Herb Chong
Save for Web. Herb... - Original Message - From: Henk Terhell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 2:52 AM Subject: RE: AW: AW: Change File Attributes Another question I have on this subject, does anybody know if you can delete EXIF data

Re: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-22 Thread Frantisek
HT Another question I have on this subject, does anybody know if you can HT delete EXIF data in Photoshop, supposing you don't want to share your HT camera settings with others? Resaving in Irfanview does provide this HT option, but I cannot figure out in PS Elements 3 how to do this. You don't

Re: AW: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-22 Thread Michael Heim
I can do that as soon as i'm home again. michael -- Michael Heim [EMAIL PROTECTED] 078 615 19 88 Hi, Monday, February 21, 2005, 10:54:04 PM, Michael wrote: I my english so bad? I know a little bit about computers and I know when i cang change something and when i can't. And as you wrote,

Re: AW: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-22 Thread Michael Heim
I know that. Michael -- Michael Heim [EMAIL PROTECTED] 078 615 19 88 Bob W mused: Hi, Monday, February 21, 2005, 10:54:04 PM, Michael wrote: I my english so bad? I know a little bit about computers and I know when i cang change something and when i can't. And as you wrote, when

Re: AW: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-22 Thread Michael Heim
I'll try that. I use the same version of XP (inc. SP 2). Michael -- Michael Heim [EMAIL PROTECTED] 078 615 19 88 Michael, Have you tried just typing once you left click on 'Title', 'Subject', etc. On my PC everything is grayed out until I start typing then the dialogue box appears. I'm

Re: AW: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-22 Thread Michael Heim
Heureka! That works. You just have to write, without knowing that writing is possible. Greetings to Redmond! Michael -- Michael Heim [EMAIL PROTECTED] 078 615 19 88 Michael, Have you tried just typing once you left click on 'Title', 'Subject', etc. On my PC everything is grayed out until I

Re: AW: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-22 Thread Michael Heim
Thanks to all our chats here on the newsletter, i knwo the difference between EXIF, IPTC and the normal windows attributes (wether they ARE real attributes or not). EXIF as standard for technical data. I can't and change them and don't want to change them. IPTC is for the pro's. We work with

RE: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-22 Thread Michael Heim
: AW: AW: AW: Change File Attributes I my english so bad? I know a little bit about computers and I know when i cang change something and when i can't. And as you wrote, when multiple files selected, I can't change the values. Even not in the advanced mode. That's a fact. Maybe you can. I can't. I

RE: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-22 Thread Eric Featherstone
At 12:27 pm 22/02/2005, Henk Terhell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael, you don't just double click. First you click on the icon to mark the line, then you click somewhere on the right side of the marked line. Using Bob W's instructions I discovered that it works on my XP Pro system also on

Re: AW: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-22 Thread Doug Franklin
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 10:46:17 +0100, Michael Heim wrote: Windows attributes could be fine for private Use. Sharing pictures with friends who aren't able to read IPTC. To me, the biggest problem with the Windows attributes is that they're not embedded into the image file, so they don't always

AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-21 Thread Michael Heim
With multiple files selected, all those property fields are disabled. I can still see the boxes in the dialog, but they are greyed out. Well, that's the point. Michael

Re: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-21 Thread Bob W
Hi, Monday, February 21, 2005, 6:07:39 PM, Michael wrote: With multiple files selected, all those property fields are disabled. I can still see the boxes in the dialog, but they are greyed out. Well, that's the point. If you are still having trouble with this then, as I explained yesterday

AW: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-21 Thread Michael Heim
@pdml.net Betreff: Re: AW: AW: Change File Attributes Hi, Monday, February 21, 2005, 6:07:39 PM, Michael wrote: With multiple files selected, all those property fields are disabled. I can still see the boxes in the dialog, but they are greyed out. Well, that's the point. If you are still

Re: AW: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-21 Thread Bob W
Hi, Monday, February 21, 2005, 10:54:04 PM, Michael wrote: I my english so bad? I know a little bit about computers and I know when i cang change something and when i can't. And as you wrote, when multiple files selected, I can't change the values. Even not in the advanced mode. That's a

Re: AW: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-21 Thread John Francis
Bob W mused: Hi, Monday, February 21, 2005, 10:54:04 PM, Michael wrote: I my english so bad? I know a little bit about computers and I know when i cang change something and when i can't. And as you wrote, when multiple files selected, I can't change the values. Even not in the

Re: AW: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-21 Thread Fred Widall
Michael, Have you tried just typing once you left click on 'Title', 'Subject', etc. On my PC everything is grayed out until I start typing then the dialogue box appears. I'm runing XP Professional Version 2002, Service Pack 2. It works for multiple files at once, but its not the same as IPTC

Re: AW: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Fred Widall Subject: Re: AW: AW: AW: Change File Attributes Michael, Have you tried just typing once you left click on 'Title', 'Subject', etc. On my PC everything is grayed out until I start typing then the dialogue box appears. I'm runing XP Professional

Re: AW: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-21 Thread Frantisek
Hi Michael, I have just tried that - the XP properties - on JPEGs which had IPTC info added by IrfanView (which works well). XP didn't even find the info there, it showed the EXIF well but not the IPTC tags, although they were named the same! (ie author, keywords, caption,...). So I guess XP

Re: AW: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-21 Thread Doug Franklin
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 17:52:26 -0600, William Robb wrote: I just tried a couple of the things that Bob said to try, and i am not getting the dialogues that he says i should be seeing either. I am wondering if there is something in the way Mike and I have our versions of XP set up? Mine is

RE: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-21 Thread Henk Terhell
with others? Resaving in Irfanview does provide this option, but I cannot figure out in PS Elements 3 how to do this. Henk -Original Message- From: Michael Heim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 February, 2005 11:54 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: AW: AW: AW: Change File Attributes I my

AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-20 Thread Michael Heim
... ;-) -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Bob W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Samstag, 19. Februar 2005 20:45 An: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Betreff: Re: AW: Change File Attributes Hi, Saturday, February 19, 2005, 5:10:43 PM, Michael wrote: Actually, it's not exif data i want to change. It's file attributes

AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-20 Thread Michael Heim
: Change File Attributes Hi, I missed a step: 4a. If the tab shows the Simple view, click the 'Advanced' button Bob Saturday, February 19, 2005, 7:44:52 PM, Bob wrote: Hi, Saturday, February 19, 2005, 5:10:43 PM, Michael wrote: Actually, it's not exif data i want to change. It's file

AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-20 Thread Michael Heim
The funny, nasty and sad thing is: As always, we have two different standards or ways to put some information into a picture file. 1) IPTC. There's the press' industry standard to write file information. BUT: You need special Software to write it. Photoshop can do, most other Graphic Programs

Re: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-20 Thread Mark Roberts
Michael Heim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The funny, nasty and sad thing is: As always, we have two different standards or ways to put some information into a picture file. 1) IPTC. There's the press' industry standard to write file information. BUT: You need special Software to write it. Photoshop

Re: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-20 Thread Frantisek
MH Now we don't know wich way to go. Professionals love IPTC. Some MH electronic photo archives automatically read the IPTC-Information. But MH every normal Citizen (and Netizen) can't read these informations. Those MH people would like to have the standard File Properties. Stick with IPTC. You

Re: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-20 Thread Frantisek
Also, even the average netizen photo browsers like ACDSee can read the IPTC data. fra

AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-20 Thread Michael Heim
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Frantisek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Also, I believe the WinXP properties of the file are not transferred with the file. They are most likely stored in the NTFS filesystem on your disk (that might explain why you can't change them, if you don't have the

Re: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-20 Thread David Oswald
I believe that the Image::Magik module for Perl allows manipulation of jpg attributes, and maybe more. If you all feel up to the challenge of installing Perl, the Image::Magik module, and running a Perl script, I'll volunteer to look into writing a script that will handle batch processing of

Re: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-20 Thread Frantisek
MH Sounds interresting. Are you sure? MH Couldn't it be that those informatsions are in fact transferred, but MH only readable under certain circumstances? I am not sure ;-) It was just speculation based on the fact that NTFS can store something called alternate data streams, and also me

Re: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-20 Thread Bob W
Hi, Sunday, February 20, 2005, 1:54:31 PM, Michael wrote: What Version of Windows - we are talking about window,s aren't we? - are we talking aboout? I'm using WinXP Pro. But i can't follow your instructions. I'm using XP Pro, in English, so the labels on the controls will be different from

Re: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-20 Thread Peter Lacus
Frantisek, I am not sure ;-) It was just speculation based on the fact that NTFS can store something called alternate data streams, and also me remembering that on Macs, you can have even IPTC info not in the file but in something called fork of the file (which of course gets lost when

Re: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-20 Thread John Francis
Frantisek mused: Also, I believe the WinXP properties of the file are not transferred with the file. They are most likely stored in the NTFS filesystem on your disk (that might explain why you can't change them . . . No - the reason why the posted instructions don't work for Michael are

Re: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-20 Thread Bob W
Hi, Also, I believe the WinXP properties of the file are not transferred with the file. They are most likely stored in the NTFS filesystem on your disk (that might explain why you can't change them . . . No - the reason why the posted instructions don't work for Michael are because you

AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-20 Thread Michael Heim
But I can't change them when multiple files selected and i can't imagine a reason why it should work at yours... Michael -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Bob W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Sonntag, 20. Februar 2005 21:27 An: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Betreff: Re: AW: Change File

Re: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-20 Thread John Francis
Bob W mused: Hi, Also, I believe the WinXP properties of the file are not transferred with the file. They are most likely stored in the NTFS filesystem on your disk (that might explain why you can't change them . . . No - the reason why the posted instructions don't work for Michael

Re: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-20 Thread Bob W
Hi, In that case your version of WinXP behaves differently from my version. If I bring up the properties dialog with only one file selected, I can change Title and/or Comments (and a few other properties). [Interestingly enough, Category shows up, but can not be altered] With multiple

Re: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-20 Thread John Francis
Bob W mused: Hi, In that case your version of WinXP behaves differently from my version. If I bring up the properties dialog with only one file selected, I can change Title and/or Comments (and a few other properties). [Interestingly enough, Category shows up, but can not be

Re: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-20 Thread Bob W
Hi, Just another wonderful part of the Windows User Interface experience. Indeed. I hope some of their usability people were watching. -- Cheers, Bob

AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-19 Thread Michael Heim
Actually, it's not exif data i want to change. It's file attributes like title, theme or commentary (deutsch: Titel, Thema, Kommentare) I don't want to change hte file names. A lot of Programs do that. Michael -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-19 Thread Michael Heim
Thanks a lot! Michael -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Frantisek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Samstag, 19. Februar 2005 18:27 An: Michael Heim Betreff: Re: Change File Attributes Saturday, February 19, 2005, 5:45:04 PM, Michael wrote: MH Does anybody of you know a program (or

Re: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-19 Thread Bob W
Hi, Saturday, February 19, 2005, 5:10:43 PM, Michael wrote: Actually, it's not exif data i want to change. It's file attributes like title, theme or commentary (deutsch: Titel, Thema, Kommentare) I don't want to change hte file names. A lot of Programs do that. I hope this is what you

Re: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-19 Thread Bob W
Hi, I missed a step: 4a. If the tab shows the Simple view, click the 'Advanced' button Bob Saturday, February 19, 2005, 7:44:52 PM, Bob wrote: Hi, Saturday, February 19, 2005, 5:10:43 PM, Michael wrote: Actually, it's not exif data i want to change. It's file attributes like title,

Re: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-19 Thread Peter Lacus
Michael, Actually, it's not exif data i want to change. It's file attributes like title, theme or commentary (deutsch: Titel, Thema, Kommentare) in fact, IrfanView does have this capability (you can read and/or embed standard IPTC tags) so Jens' suggestion was pretty good IMHO. I am just not

Re: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-19 Thread John Francis
Bob W mused: Hi, Saturday, February 19, 2005, 5:10:43 PM, Michael wrote: Actually, it's not exif data i want to change. It's file attributes like title, theme or commentary (deutsch: Titel, Thema, Kommentare) I don't want to change hte file names. A lot of Programs do that. I