Re: AW: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-22 Thread Doug Franklin
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 10:46:17 +0100, Michael Heim wrote: > Windows attributes could be fine for private Use. Sharing pictures with > friends who aren't able to read IPTC. To me, the biggest problem with the Windows attributes is that they're not embedded into the image file, so they don't always g

RE: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-22 Thread Eric Featherstone
At 12:27 pm 22/02/2005, "Henk Terhell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Michael, you don't just double click. First you click on the icon to mark the line, then you click somewhere on the right side of the marked line. Using Bob W's instructions I discovered that it works on my XP Pro system also on mult

RE: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-22 Thread Michael Heim
eim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: 21 February, 2005 11:54 PM >To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net >Subject: AW: AW: AW: Change File Attributes > > >I my english so bad? >I know a little bit about computers and I know when i cang change >something and when i can't. And as you wrote

Re: AW: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-22 Thread Michael Heim
Thanks to all our chats here on the newsletter, i knwo the difference between EXIF, IPTC and the "normal" windows attributes (wether they ARE real attributes or not). EXIF as standard for technical data. I can't and change them and don't want to change them. IPTC is for the pro's. We work with IPT

Re: AW: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-22 Thread Michael Heim
Heureka! That works. You just have to write, without knowing that writing is possible. Greetings to Redmond! Michael -- Michael Heim [EMAIL PROTECTED] 078 615 19 88 >Michael, > >Have you tried just typing once you left click on 'Title', 'Subject', etc. >On my PC everything is grayed out until

Re: AW: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-22 Thread Michael Heim
I'll try that. I use the same version of XP (inc. SP 2). Michael -- Michael Heim [EMAIL PROTECTED] 078 615 19 88 >Michael, > >Have you tried just typing once you left click on 'Title', 'Subject', etc. >On my PC everything is grayed out until I start typing then the dialogue >box appears. > >I'

Re: AW: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-22 Thread Michael Heim
I know that. Michael -- Michael Heim [EMAIL PROTECTED] 078 615 19 88 >Bob W mused: >> >> Hi, >> >> Monday, February 21, 2005, 10:54:04 PM, Michael wrote: >> >> > I my english so bad? >> > I know a little bit about computers and I know when i cang change >> > something and when i can't. And

Re: AW: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-22 Thread Michael Heim
I can do that as soon as i'm home again. michael -- Michael Heim [EMAIL PROTECTED] 078 615 19 88 >Hi, > >Monday, February 21, 2005, 10:54:04 PM, Michael wrote: > >> I my english so bad? >> I know a little bit about computers and I know when i cang change >> something and when i can't. And as y

Re: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-22 Thread Frantisek
HT> Another question I have on this subject, does anybody know if you can HT> delete EXIF data in Photoshop, supposing you don't want to share your HT> camera settings with others? Resaving in Irfanview does provide this HT> option, but I cannot figure out in PS Elements 3 how to do this. You don'

Re: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-22 Thread Herb Chong
Save for Web. Herb... - Original Message - From: "Henk Terhell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 2:52 AM Subject: RE: AW: AW: Change File Attributes Another question I have on this subject, does anybody know if you can delete EXIF data in Phot

RE: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-22 Thread Henk Terhell
That works indeed. Pretty useful, this "save for web" option. Thanks for clearing up my mused state. Henk -Original Message- From: John Francis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 February, 2005 9:09 AM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: AW: AW: Change File Attribu

Re: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-22 Thread John Francis
Henk Terhell mused: > > Another question I have on this subject, does anybody know if you can > delete EXIF data in Photoshop, supposing you don't want to share your > camera settings with others? Resaving in Irfanview does provide this > option, but I cannot figure out in PS Elements 3 how to do

RE: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-21 Thread Henk Terhell
camera settings with others? Resaving in Irfanview does provide this option, but I cannot figure out in PS Elements 3 how to do this. Henk -Original Message- From: Michael Heim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 February, 2005 11:54 PM To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: AW: AW: AW: Change Fi

Re: AW: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-21 Thread Doug Franklin
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 17:52:26 -0600, William Robb wrote: > I just tried a couple of the things that Bob said to try, and i am > not getting the dialogues that he says i should be seeing either. > I am wondering if there is something in the way Mike and I have our > versions of XP set up? > Mine i

Re: AW: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-21 Thread Frantisek
Hi Michael, I have just tried that - the XP properties - on JPEGs which had IPTC info added by IrfanView (which works well). XP didn't even find the info there, it showed the EXIF well but not the IPTC tags, although they were named the same! (ie author, keywords, caption,...). So I guess XP doesn'

Re: AW: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-21 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Fred Widall" Subject: Re: AW: AW: AW: Change File Attributes Michael, Have you tried just typing once you left click on 'Title', 'Subject', etc. On my PC everything is grayed out until I start typing then the dialog

Re: AW: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-21 Thread Fred Widall
Michael, Have you tried just typing once you left click on 'Title', 'Subject', etc. On my PC everything is grayed out until I start typing then the dialogue box appears. I'm runing XP Professional Version 2002, Service Pack 2. It works for multiple files at once, but its not the same as IPTC dat

Re: AW: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-21 Thread John Francis
Bob W mused: > > Hi, > > Monday, February 21, 2005, 10:54:04 PM, Michael wrote: > > > I my english so bad? > > I know a little bit about computers and I know when i cang change > > something and when i can't. And as you wrote, when multiple files > > selected, I can't change the values. Even not

Re: AW: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-21 Thread Bob W
Hi, Monday, February 21, 2005, 10:54:04 PM, Michael wrote: > I my english so bad? > I know a little bit about computers and I know when i cang change > something and when i can't. And as you wrote, when multiple files > selected, I can't change the values. Even not in the advanced mode. > That's

AW: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-21 Thread Michael Heim
2005 20:15 An: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Betreff: Re: AW: AW: Change File Attributes Hi, Monday, February 21, 2005, 6:07:39 PM, Michael wrote: >> >>With multiple files selected, all those property fields are disabled. >>I can still see the >>boxes in the dialog, but they

Re: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-21 Thread Bob W
Hi, Monday, February 21, 2005, 6:07:39 PM, Michael wrote: >> >>With multiple files selected, all those property fields are disabled. I can still see the >>boxes in the dialog, but they are greyed out. > Well, that's the point. If you are still having trouble with this then, as I explained yeste

AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-21 Thread Michael Heim
> >With multiple files selected, all those property fields are disabled. I can still see the >boxes in the dialog, but they are greyed out. Well, that's the point. Michael

Re: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-20 Thread Bob W
Hi, > Just another wonderful part of the Windows User Interface experience. Indeed. I hope some of their usability people were watching. -- Cheers, Bob

Re: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-20 Thread John Francis
Bob W mused: > > Hi, > > > In that case your version of WinXP behaves differently from my version. > > > If I bring up the "properties" dialog with only one file selected, > > I can change Title and/or Comments (and a few other properties). > > [Interestingly enough, Category shows up, but can n

Re: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-20 Thread Bob W
Hi, > In that case your version of WinXP behaves differently from my version. > If I bring up the "properties" dialog with only one file selected, > I can change Title and/or Comments (and a few other properties). > [Interestingly enough, Category shows up, but can not be altered] > With multipl

Re: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-20 Thread John Francis
Bob W mused: > > Hi, > > >> Also, I believe the WinXP "properties" of the file are not transferred > >> with the file. They are most likely stored in the NTFS filesystem on > >> your disk (that might explain why you can't change them . . . > > > No - the reason why the posted instructions don't

AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-20 Thread Michael Heim
But I can't change them when multiple files selected and i can't imagine a reason why it should work at yours... Michael -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Bob W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Sonntag, 20. Februar 2005 21:27 An: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Betreff: Re: AW: C

Re: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-20 Thread Bob W
Hi, >> Also, I believe the WinXP "properties" of the file are not transferred >> with the file. They are most likely stored in the NTFS filesystem on >> your disk (that might explain why you can't change them . . . > No - the reason why the posted instructions don't work for Michael > are because

Re: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-20 Thread John Francis
Frantisek mused: > > Also, I believe the WinXP "properties" of the file are not transferred > with the file. They are most likely stored in the NTFS filesystem on > your disk (that might explain why you can't change them . . . No - the reason why the posted instructions don't work for Michael ar

Re: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-20 Thread Peter Lacus
Frantisek, I am not sure ;-) It was just speculation based on the fact that NTFS can store something called alternate data streams, and also me remembering that on Macs, you can have even IPTC info not in the file but in something called "fork" of the file (which of course gets lost when transferin

Re: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-20 Thread Bob W
Hi, Sunday, February 20, 2005, 1:54:31 PM, Michael wrote: > What Version of Windows - we are talking about window,s aren't we? - are > we talking aboout? > I'm using WinXP Pro. But i can't follow your instructions. I'm using XP Pro, in English, so the labels on the controls will be different fr

Re: AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-20 Thread Frantisek
MH> Sounds interresting. Are you sure? MH> Couldn't it be that those informatsions are in fact transferred, but MH> only readable under certain circumstances? I am not sure ;-) It was just speculation based on the fact that NTFS can store something called alternate data streams, and also me rememb

Re: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-20 Thread David Oswald
itizen (and Netizen) can't read these informations. Those people would like to have the standard File Properties. Michael -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Samstag, 19. Februar 2005 23:36 An: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Betreff: Re: Chang

Re: Change File Attributes

2005-02-20 Thread Herb Chong
called the same thing in German, but they are not the same thing. Herb - Original Message - From: "Michael Heim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 9:06 AM Subject: AW: Change File Attributes The funny, nasty and sad thing is: As always, we ha

AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-20 Thread Michael Heim
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Frantisek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Also, I believe the WinXP "properties" of the file are not transferred with the file. They are most likely stored in the NTFS filesystem on your disk (that might explain why you can't change them, if you don't have the f

Re: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-20 Thread Frantisek
Also, even the "average netizen" photo browsers like ACDSee can read the IPTC data. fra

Re: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-20 Thread Frantisek
MH> Now we don't know wich way to go. Professionals love IPTC. Some MH> electronic photo archives automatically read the IPTC-Information. But MH> every normal Citizen (and Netizen) can't read these informations. Those MH> people would like to have the standard File Properties. Stick with IPTC. Yo

Re: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-20 Thread Mark Roberts
"Michael Heim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The funny, nasty and sad thing is: As always, we have two different >standards or ways to put some information into a picture file. > >1) IPTC. There's the press' industry standard to write file information. >BUT: You need special Software to write it. Ph

AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-20 Thread Michael Heim
g [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Samstag, 19. Februar 2005 23:36 An: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Betreff: Re: Change File Attributes you've never used the ATTRIB command? properties on files in Explorer works too. Herb - Original Message - From: "Michael Heim" <[EMAIL

AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-20 Thread Michael Heim
e: AW: Change File Attributes Hi, I missed a step: 4a. If the tab shows the Simple view, click the 'Advanced' button Bob Saturday, February 19, 2005, 7:44:52 PM, Bob wrote: > Hi, > Saturday, February 19, 2005, 5:10:43 PM, Michael wrote: >> Actually, it's not exif dat

AW: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-20 Thread Michael Heim
. When you've finished, click OK. YES I'M FINISHED... ;-) -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Bob W [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Samstag, 19. Februar 2005 20:45 An: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Betreff: Re: AW: Change File Attributes Hi, Saturday, February 19, 2005, 5:10:43 PM, Michael wrote:

Re: Change File Attributes

2005-02-19 Thread Herb Chong
you've never used the ATTRIB command? properties on files in Explorer works too. Herb - Original Message - From: "Michael Heim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 11:45 AM Subject: Change File Attributes Does anybody of you know a prog

Re: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-19 Thread John Francis
Bob W mused: > > Hi, > > Saturday, February 19, 2005, 5:10:43 PM, Michael wrote: > > > Actually, it's not exif data i want to change. > > It's file attributes like "title", "theme" or "commentary" > > (deutsch: Titel, Thema, Kommentare) > > > I don't want to change hte file names. A lot of Prog

Re: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-19 Thread Peter Lacus
Michael, Actually, it's not exif data i want to change. It's file attributes like "title", "theme" or "commentary" (deutsch: Titel, Thema, Kommentare) in fact, IrfanView does have this capability (you can read and/or embed standard IPTC tags) so Jens' suggestion was pretty good IMHO. I am just no

Re: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-19 Thread Bob W
Hi, I missed a step: 4a. If the tab shows the Simple view, click the 'Advanced' button Bob Saturday, February 19, 2005, 7:44:52 PM, Bob wrote: > Hi, > Saturday, February 19, 2005, 5:10:43 PM, Michael wrote: >> Actually, it's not exif data i want to change. >> It's file attributes like "title

Re: AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-19 Thread Bob W
Hi, Saturday, February 19, 2005, 5:10:43 PM, Michael wrote: > Actually, it's not exif data i want to change. > It's file attributes like "title", "theme" or "commentary" > (deutsch: Titel, Thema, Kommentare) > I don't want to change hte file names. A lot of Programs do that. I hope this is what

Re: Change File Attributes

2005-02-19 Thread Anders Hultman
Michael Heim: Does anybody of you know a program (or some lines of DOS-Code) to change file attributes of picture files (like the title or the author of a picture)? I often have lots of files with only the exif-information an need to set some attibutes when giving the files to our image editor

AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-19 Thread Michael Heim
Thanks a lot! Michael -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Frantisek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Samstag, 19. Februar 2005 18:27 An: Michael Heim Betreff: Re: Change File Attributes Saturday, February 19, 2005, 5:45:04 PM, Michael wrote: MH> Does anybody of you know a program

Re: Change File Attributes

2005-02-19 Thread Frantisek
Saturday, February 19, 2005, 5:45:04 PM, Michael wrote: MH> Does anybody of you know a program (or some lines of DOS-Code) to change MH> file attributes of picture files (like the title or the author of a MH> picture)? MH> I often have lots of files with only the exif-information an need to set MH

AW: Change File Attributes

2005-02-19 Thread Michael Heim
Von: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Samstag, 19. Februar 2005 18:01 An: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Betreff: RE: Change File Attributes I don't know about changing EXIF data. But, as for file names I use Irfan View (free) for batch convertion. It can do filenames as well as siz

RE: Change File Attributes

2005-02-19 Thread Jens Bladt
bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Michael Heim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 19. februar 2005 17:45 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Change File Attributes Does anybody of you know a program (or some lines of DOS-Code) to change file attributes of picture files (like the title or the author

Change File Attributes

2005-02-19 Thread Michael Heim
Does anybody of you know a program (or some lines of DOS-Code) to change file attributes of picture files (like the title or the author of a picture)? I often have lots of files with only the exif-information an need to set some attibutes when giving the files to our image editor. It's bori