Re: Lens travel kit dilemma

2009-03-21 Thread David Savage
2009/3/21 Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com: Call me a lazy slacker Rick you lazy slacker... Stan, I agree with Rick. Take the 16-50mm 50-135mm. When I play tourist the 16-45/16-50mm focal length is always my most used lens I'd also add the 21mm f3.2 for when you want to to travel small

Re: Lens travel kit dilemma

2009-03-21 Thread Scott Loveless
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 9:54 AM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/3/21 Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com: Call me a lazy slacker Rick you lazy slacker... Stan, I agree with Rick. Take the 16-50mm 50-135mm. When I play tourist the 16-45/16-50mm focal length is always my most used

Re: Lens travel kit dilemma

2009-03-21 Thread Charles Robinson
On Mar 21, 2009, at 4:38, Rick Womer wrote: So, Stan, are you traveling to see things, eat good food, and take pictures, or are you traveling for lens-swapping exercise? Call me a lazy slacker, but I would take the two zooms and the super- wide. Those are such good lenses that you would

Re: Lens travel kit dilemma

2009-03-21 Thread Doug Franklin
Stan Halpin wrote: 16-50/2.8 50-135/2.8 If it were me, that'd be my kit ... those two lenses and one body, or maybe two. I don't like looking festooned with camera gear when I'm out sightseeing and I don't want to have to fuss with a bunch of different primes. Light, fast, unobtrusive.

Re: Lens travel kit dilemma

2009-03-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
rationale: The reason for my kit suggestion is that I intensely dislike shooting with wide-normal-portrait zooms. I find their imaging qualities and bulk get in my way a lot of the time. The 16-50/2.8 is extremely bulky and very heavy compared to the DA21 and FA43. The two short primes

Re: Lens travel kit dilemma

2009-03-21 Thread Boris Liberman
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: rationale: I also find that if I carry more than three or four lenses, I'm wasting my time trying to decide what to use. I lose picture opportunities that way. And I hate carrying all that bulk. Three lenses and a light tripod do MUCH more than five-six lenses for me.

Re: Lens travel kit dilemma

2009-03-21 Thread Sasha Sobol
Hi Stan, I would carry 21mm, 50-135mm and one other prime (35mm, or 43mm in your case). OT: I would also think what filters you want (polarizer for sure, uv for protection, may be even graduated nd?) It is good then your lenses can share some filters. I I were you I would scan through your recent

Re: Lens travel kit dilemma

2009-03-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
The size and bulk of the DA* 16-50 aren't an obstacle for me. When shooting with a K20D with battery grip attached, it actually provides better balance than smaller lenses. And while I don't have an FA 43 with which to compare it, I can say with certainty that its image quality is better

Re: Lens travel kit dilemma

2009-03-21 Thread Joseph McAllister
So much has been thrown your way by now, your brain is probably reeling. I know mine is. Go for a X70 and carry nothing else but a half dozen 8 gig SDHC cards. Shoot HD movies when appropriate. Spend more time at the computer post- processing than the length of your vacation. :-)

Re: Lens travel kit dilemma

2009-03-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Ah, but I bought the grip for the K10D and hated the additional weight and bulk of that too. I used it once, to test it, and sold it a year later. Wide to portrait zooms just don't float my boat. The best one I've ever had is the Vario-Elmarit-D 14-50/2.8-3.5 ASPH OIS that came with the

RE: Lens travel kit dilemma

2009-03-21 Thread John Whittingham
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist [pnstenqu...@comcast.net] Sent: 21 March 2009 17:46 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Lens travel kit dilemma The size and bulk of the DA* 16-50 aren't an obstacle for me. When shooting with a K20D

Re: Lens travel kit dilemma

2009-03-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yes, it's all a matter of personal taste and shooting styles. Prior to going digital, I was shooting most of my work with the 6x7, so size has never been a serious consideration for me. (Ironically, my second most-used camera at that time was the little Leica iiif.) More importantly, I

Re: Lens travel kit dilemma

2009-03-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
...@pdml.net [pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist [pnstenqu...@comcast.net] Sent: 21 March 2009 17:46 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Lens travel kit dilemma The size and bulk of the DA* 16-50 aren't an obstacle for me. When shooting with a K20D with battery grip attached

RE: Lens travel kit dilemma

2009-03-21 Thread John Whittingham
Of Paul Stenquist [pnstenqu...@comcast.net] Sent: 21 March 2009 19:49 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Lens travel kit dilemma I have both as well. Shooting cars in continuous autofocus mode during the dream cruise, it became obvious that the USM motor in the newer lens was much more

Re: Lens travel kit dilemma

2009-03-21 Thread Mark Roberts
Stan Halpin wrote: Re-visiting a topic that has been discussed off and on before on the list... In 3 weeks or so I will be going to Rome with my wife for a short week. (5.5 days on the ground.) I am trying to decide what camera gear to take with me. My standard two-lens kit is the DA*16-50

Re: Lens travel kit dilemma

2009-03-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist [pnstenqu...@comcast.net] Sent: 21 March 2009 19:49 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Lens travel kit dilemma I have both as well. Shooting cars in continuous autofocus mode during the dream cruise, it became obvious that the USM motor in the newer lens

Re: Lens travel kit dilemma

2009-03-21 Thread Charles Robinson
On Mar 21, 2009, at 15:27, Paul Stenquist wrote: I have almost never seen any evidence of visible CA in DA* 16-50 files. On the other hand, many FA lenses seem prone to CA when used in digital applications. However, I have to admit that I haven't studied FA 35/2 results at a pixel level.

Re: Lens travel kit dilemma

2009-03-21 Thread Stan Halpin
is an excellent one. In fact my brother (and fellow Pentaxian) told me the same thing when I discussed this dilemma with him last week. So, I pulled up the Lightroom data... On my Venice trip two years ago my primary camera was a K10D, my secondary was a *ist-D. This time both cameras

Re: Lens travel kit dilemma

2009-03-21 Thread Larry Colen
Stan, Excellent analysis of your usage. Here's another question to consider if you want to dig into your data a bit more, when you were using primes, how often did you use them at an aperture that is wider than your zooms would handle? Another thing to consider is, if rather than looking at all

Re: Lens travel kit dilemma

2009-03-21 Thread Stan Halpin
By the way Scott - great suggestion! I can see it now: a. Stan takes off a lens, asks for a different lens. b. Street urchin/photo assistant hands him a lens, stashes the one just replaced. c. Stan concentrates on getting just the right framing and lighting for the definitive photo of a

Re: Lens travel kit dilemma

2009-03-21 Thread Paul Stenquist
Proof positive that you were the proud owner of a broken lens. Paul On Mar 21, 2009, at 9:33 PM, Charles Robinson wrote: On Mar 21, 2009, at 15:27, Paul Stenquist wrote: I have almost never seen any evidence of visible CA in DA* 16-50 files. On the other hand, many FA lenses seem prone to

Re: Lens travel kit dilemma

2009-03-21 Thread Stan Halpin
Good question Larry. I'll look at that tomorrow. stan On Mar 21, 2009, at 8:50 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Stan, Excellent analysis of your usage. ... Another thing to consider is, if rather than looking at all of your pictures, you just look at your favorite 20, or 50, which lenses did you use?

Re: Lens travel kit dilemma

2009-03-21 Thread Doug Brewer
Stan Halpin wrote: Re-visiting a topic that has been discussed off and on before on the list...snippage Be a man. One camera, one lens. K20D and FA35/2. you know you want to. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from

Lens travel kit dilemma

2009-03-20 Thread Stan Halpin
Re-visiting a topic that has been discussed off and on before on the list... In 3 weeks or so I will be going to Rome with my wife for a short week. (5.5 days on the ground.) I am trying to decide what camera gear to take with me. Some considerations: a. Most of what I take should fit

Re: Lens travel kit dilemma

2009-03-20 Thread Christine Aguila
- Original Message - From: Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 12:23 AM Subject: Lens travel kit dilemma Re-visiting a topic that has been discussed off and on before on the list... In 3 weeks or so I

Maui dilemma

2008-03-13 Thread Tim Bray
My K20D is still a big workflow problem due to WB-fixing issues. K20-DNG-Photolab for WB-TIFF (85M)-Lightroom-DNG (a mere 50M compressed). I'm assuming that Pentax and/or Adobe will fix this up pretty soon. Anyhow... the family's off to Maui for spring break and I'm wondering whether the

Re: Maui dilemma

2008-03-13 Thread David Savage
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Tim Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's really easy to take a couple hundred shots in a Hawaii afternoon, and I'm not sure I'm strong enough for that much time in Photolab. Then don't use Photolab. K20D owners using PS LR are somehow managing to get usable

Re: Maui dilemma

2008-03-13 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Tim Bray Subject: Maui dilemma My K20D is still a big workflow problem due to WB-fixing issues. K20-DNG-Photolab for WB-TIFF (85M)-Lightroom-DNG (a mere 50M compressed). I'm assuming that Pentax and/or Adobe will fix this up pretty soon. A couple

Re: PESO - And We Have a Winner! - and a dilemma

2007-11-08 Thread John Graves
I copy my .pef files onto my hard drive. When I work with an image I will save as a PSD. When I am finished, I will resave as either as a tif or jpeg, depending on how it will be used. The only confusing thing to me is that the raw tool in pse3 saves the changes although as far as I can

Re: PESO - And We Have a Winner! - and a dilemma

2007-11-08 Thread pnstenquist
All the PS converters save the tool settings, not a revised pef or dng. I sometimes move a file from one computer to another. The converter adjustments don't go with it. Paul -- Original message -- From: John Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] I copy my .pef files onto my

Re: PESO - And We Have a Winner! - and a dilemma

2007-11-08 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
If you set Camera Raw to use a distributed settings cache, it will create a .XMP sidecar file for every RAW file you open with it. That will contain your adjustment parameters. You move both the original RAW and the .XMP file together from one system to another in order to preserve the

Re: PESO - And We Have a Winner! - and a dilemma

2007-11-08 Thread Doug Franklin
John Graves wrote: I copy my .pef files onto my hard drive. When I work with an image I will save as a PSD. When I am finished, I will resave as either as a tif or jpeg, depending on how it will be used. Copy from memory cards to hard drive. Mark all of them as read only. Copy them to

Re: PESO - And We Have a Winner! - and a dilemma

2007-11-07 Thread ann sanfedele
frank theriault wrote: First the photo: http://tinyurl.com/2nvdh3 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RzG94gS56dI/A8M/K408ofTTREE/s1600-h/nov_7+002.jpg The woman was playing one of those scratch and win lotto cards, and apparently won... Now the dilemma: Um, when you load

Re: PESO - And We Have a Winner! - and a dilemma

2007-11-07 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Nov 7, 2007, at 5:41 AM, frank theriault wrote: http://tinyurl.com/2nvdh3 The woman was playing one of those scratch and win lotto cards, and apparently won... I like this photo but it's one that I would crop. The Cinnabon sign upper left pulls my eye away from the woman and her

Re: PESO - And We Have a Winner! - and a dilemma

2007-11-07 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: frank theriault Subject: PESO - And We Have a Winner! - and a dilemma First the photo: http://tinyurl.com/2nvdh3 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RzG94gS56dI/A8M/K408ofTTREE/s1600-h/nov_7+002.jpg The woman was playing one of those scratch

Re: PESO - And We Have a Winner! - and a dilemma

2007-11-07 Thread Mark Roberts
frank theriault wrote: is there any way of retrieving the original photo, as it was out of the camera? Or did I completely pooch myself by hitting save, instead of save as (in which I'd have created a new file, rather than replacing the original)? You could try recovering the original file from

Re: PESO - And We Have a Winner! - and a dilemma

2007-11-07 Thread John Celio
http://tinyurl.com/2nvdh3 Nice snap, but the Cinnabon does two things: makes it look like an ad for Cinnabon, and makes me REALLY hungry. Regarding the lost original: as others have said, use a file-recovery software on your card unless you've taken more photos on it since you downloaded

Re: PESO - And We Have a Winner! - and a dilemma

2007-11-07 Thread Bran Everseeking
going save as one better is to never work on an original. creating a copy in a working directory away from the directory where you store originals ... and remembering to identify the original as connected to the processed image. yep I have messed up more than once. Bran -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

Re: PESO - And We Have a Winner! - and a dilemma

2007-11-07 Thread Eactivist
, and apparently won... Now the dilemma: I'm dead tired last night, doing a bit of processing in PS. I'm done, and I'm closing up the computer to get ready for bed. I'm not really done with this photo, as I'm not quite satisfied as is. I hit save, the computer asks if I want to save

PESO - And We Have a Winner! - and a dilemma

2007-11-07 Thread frank theriault
First the photo: http://tinyurl.com/2nvdh3 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/RzG94gS56dI/A8M/K408ofTTREE/s1600-h/nov_7+002.jpg The woman was playing one of those scratch and win lotto cards, and apparently won... Now the dilemma: I'm dead tired last night, doing a bit of processing

Re: PESO - And We Have a Winner! - and a dilemma

2007-11-07 Thread Rick Womer
The woman was playing one of those scratch and win lotto cards, and apparently won... Now the dilemma: I'm dead tired last night, doing a bit of processing in PS. I'm done, and I'm closing up the computer to get ready for bed. I'm not really done with this photo, as I'm not quite satisfied

Re: PESO - And We Have a Winner! - and a dilemma

2007-11-07 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 11/7/2007 11:39:07 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: going save as one better is to never work on an original. creating a copy in a working directory away from the directory where you store originals ... and remembering to identify the original as

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-24 Thread David Savage
On 1/24/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 23/1/07, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: Define distasteful ! Filming/reporting a best of blue vein cheese tasting. LOL thanks mate. Coffee-nostrils. Whoops. Cheers, Dave :-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-24 Thread mike wilson
From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/01/24 Wed AM 12:42:09 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Moral dilemma Seems to me that the BBC can't decide if it's organized. (or disorganized), crime. Salvage (saving something from total loss) very much

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-24 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 1/23/2007 12:56:34 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You are a person of good taste and manners. Which is why you will never make a journalist. === Mark! Marnie aka Doe ;-) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-24 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jan 23, 2007, at 17:12, Cotty wrote: On 23/1/07, Charles Robinson, discombobulated, unleashed: While I'm not sure I'd take pictures of the BODY, I would document the scene around my house/apartment if such a thing occurred. Simply because that is what I do with a camera - record events.

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-24 Thread Cotty
On 24/1/07, Charles Robinson, discombobulated, unleashed: I guess when I said around my house/apartment I was referring to the landscape OUTSIDE of the residence, not IN it. Charles, if you've got a busy life inside your apartment, that's fine by me buddy ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-23 Thread mike wilson
From: John Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/01/23 Tue AM 02:07:59 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss pdml@pdml.net Subject: Moral dilemma What would you have done? Yesterday, a young man died in the small park opposite where I live. The street was full of police and their vehicles, for about 5

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-23 Thread Cotty
On 22/1/07, K.Takeshita, discombobulated, unleashed: This tells me that you are very decent person and of commonsense. I think Police was wrong. In the country where I came from, or many other countries, they quickly erect a tent to conceal the scene out of respect for the deceased, regardless

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-23 Thread Cotty
On 23/1/07, John Coyle, discombobulated, unleashed: Yesterday, a young man died in the small park opposite where I live. The street was full of police and their vehicles, for about 5 hours all told. Despite the fact that I could see all this action, and from our roof could see the body and

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-23 Thread Cotty
On 23/1/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: You are a person of good taste and manners. Which is why you will never make a journalist. Thanks Mike ! ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-23 Thread Cotty
On 23/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED], discombobulated, unleashed: That's pretty much what I was going to say, except that I hadn't gotten as far as thinking about what I'd do if I were employed as a news photographer. I'd shoot the overall scene, shots of police collecting evidence other than right

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-23 Thread mike wilson
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/01/23 Tue AM 09:36:59 GMT To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: Moral dilemma On 23/1/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: You are a person of good taste and manners. Which is why you will never make a journalist. Thanks Mike

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-23 Thread K.Takeshita
On 1/23/07 4:27 AM, Cotty, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This tells me that you are very decent person and of commonsense. I think Police was wrong. In the country where I came from, or many other countries, they quickly erect a tent to conceal the scene out of respect for the deceased,

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-23 Thread Cotty
On 23/1/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: My pleasure. 8-) As you so elegantly stated, journos often have to do things that are distasteful and would not be something one would want to do as an individual. Define distasteful ! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) |

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-23 Thread David Savage
On 1/23/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 23/1/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: My pleasure. 8-) As you so elegantly stated, journos often have to do things that are distasteful and would not be something one would want to do as an individual. Define distasteful !

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-23 Thread Brian Walters
Yes I think that does it! Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia Quoting David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 1/23/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Define distasteful ! Filming/reporting a best of blue vein cheese tasting.

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-23 Thread mike wilson
From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2007/01/23 Tue PM 12:34:26 GMT To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: Moral dilemma On 23/1/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: My pleasure. 8-) As you so elegantly stated, journos often have to do things that are distasteful and would

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-23 Thread David Savage
What would I have done? I probably would have had no idea what was going on. But would be bitching and moaning about all the cop cars blocking the street. I would eventually find out what had happened and then felt like a selfish twit. Cheers, Dave On 1/23/07, John Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-23 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty wrote: On 23/1/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: My pleasure. 8-) As you so elegantly stated, journos often have to do things that are distasteful and would not be something one would want to do as an individual. Define distasteful !

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-23 Thread Boris Liberman
Cotty, Personally I don't think morality is an issue. I think it's about personal comfort and the law. ... If shooting (stills or video) in circumstances such as these is uncomfortable then the outcome is obvious - one will not do it, and probably think very little of those that would.

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-23 Thread P. J. Alling
Ya just has to agree wit that... Mark Roberts wrote: Cotty wrote: On 23/1/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: My pleasure. 8-) As you so elegantly stated, journos often have to do things that are distasteful and would not be something one would want to do as an

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-23 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: Moral dilemma Sadly you would not make it as a news photographer sir. There may be no obvious reason to you why need to shoot the corpse, but if your editor later discovered you had not, you would not be working for him/her again

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-23 Thread Cotty
On 23/1/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: Define distasteful ! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/mods/eoskmount.html ;-) I asked for that. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-23 Thread Cotty
On 23/1/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: Define distasteful ! I meant it as a generic statement. Distasteful varies from person to person, as well as having a cultural side. As a personal guide, I would have it mean to take advantage of the subject. You could add disclaimers such

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-23 Thread Cotty
On 23/1/07, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: Consider, Cotty. I drove today at work and approaching a crossing I heard an ambulance's siren. Instinctively I turned to look in the mirror (I have slightly wider custom inside mirror) only to realize that nothing was in there. Meanwhile

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-23 Thread Cotty
On 23/1/07, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed: Define distasteful ! Filming/reporting a best of blue vein cheese tasting. LOL thanks mate. Coffee-nostrils. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Jan 23, 2007, at 5:47 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: Cotty wrote: Define distasteful ! http://www.macads.co.uk/snaps/mods/eoskmount.html ;-) LOL !!! G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-23 Thread Russell Kerstetter
i think this would be me too! :) russ On 1/23/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would I have done? I probably would have had no idea what was going on. But would be bitching and moaning about all the cop cars blocking the street. I would eventually find out what had happened

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-23 Thread graywolf
All those things some a'hole sergeant tells you to do when you are in the military? Of course some f'ing orificer told him to make you do that. Some perverted polly told the officer to do that. And the politician got the idea from something some tall bald-headed Limey News Cameraman shot.

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-23 Thread Cotty
On 23/1/07, graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed: All those things some a'hole sergeant tells you to do when you are in the military? Of course some f'ing orificer told him to make you do that. Some perverted polly told the officer to do that. And the politician got the idea from something

RE: Moral dilemma

2007-01-23 Thread Bob W
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cotty Sent: 23 January 2007 09:26 To: pentax list Subject: Re: Moral dilemma On 23/1/07, John Coyle, discombobulated, unleashed: Yesterday, a young man died in the small park opposite where I live. The street was full

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-23 Thread Kenneth Waller
It appears the real question here is what would you do with the pictures taken? Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Moral dilemma On 23/1/07, John Coyle, discombobulated, unleashed: Yesterday, a young man died in the small park opposite

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-23 Thread mike wilson
Cotty wrote: On 23/1/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: Define distasteful ! I meant it as a generic statement. Distasteful varies from person to person, as well as having a cultural side. As a personal guide, I would have it mean to take advantage of the subject. You could add

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-23 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jan 23, 2007, at 14:53, Kenneth Waller wrote: It appears the real question here is what would you do with the pictures taken? While I'm not sure I'd take pictures of the BODY, I would document the scene around my house/apartment if such a thing occurred. Simply because that is what

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-23 Thread Cotty
On 23/1/07, Charles Robinson, discombobulated, unleashed: While I'm not sure I'd take pictures of the BODY, I would document the scene around my house/apartment if such a thing occurred. Simply because that is what I do with a camera - record events. And that, while a bummer, is

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-23 Thread P. J. Alling
Seems to me that the BBC can't decide if it's organized. (or disorganized), crime. Cotty wrote: On 23/1/07, mike wilson, discombobulated, unleashed: Define distasteful ! I meant it as a generic statement. Distasteful varies from person to person, as well as having a cultural

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-23 Thread Boris Liberman
Hi! Consider, Cotty. I drove today at work and approaching a crossing I heard an ambulance's siren. Instinctively I turned to look in the mirror (I have slightly wider custom inside mirror) only to realize that nothing was in there. Meanwhile the ambulance was entering the crossing on the

Moral dilemma

2007-01-22 Thread John Coyle
What would you have done? Yesterday, a young man died in the small park opposite where I live. The street was full of police and their vehicles, for about 5 hours all told. Despite the fact that I could see all this action, and from our roof could see the body and the various examinations

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-22 Thread Tom Simpson
As an individual, amateur photographer, I might have looked for interesting shots relating to the response to the call, but would not have shot the body itself. That is just more than a little morbid for me, and kinda' disrespectful of both the deceased and his/her family. If I were a news

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-22 Thread K.Takeshita
On 1/22/07 9:07 PM, John Coyle, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would you have done? Yesterday, a young man died in the small park opposite where I live. The street was full of police and their vehicles, for about 5 hours all told. Despite the fact that I could see all this action, and from

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-22 Thread Brian Walters
Just what you did, I think. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia Quoting John Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What would you have done? Yesterday, a young man died in the small park opposite where I live. The street was full of police and

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-22 Thread Mike Hamilton
On 1/22/07, John Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What would you have done? Yesterday, a young man died in the small park opposite where I live. The street was full of police and their vehicles, for about 5 hours all told. Despite the fact that I could see all this action, and from our roof

RE: Moral dilemma

2007-01-22 Thread J. C. O'Connell
), but the investigation going on may have been interesting to review. jco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Simpson Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 9:21 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Moral dilemma As an individual, amateur

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-22 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: John Coyle Subject: Moral dilemma What would you have done? Yesterday, a young man died in the small park opposite where I live. The street was full of police and their vehicles, for about 5 hours all told. Despite the fact that I could see all

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-22 Thread P. J. Alling
or all three... William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: John Coyle Subject: Moral dilemma What would you have done? Yesterday, a young man died in the small park opposite where I live. The street was full of police and their vehicles, for about 5 hours all told

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-22 Thread dglenn
Tom Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Coyle wrote: What would you have done? Yesterday, a young man died in the small park opposite where I live. The street was full of police and their vehicles, for about 5 hours all told. Despite the fact that I could see all this action, and

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-22 Thread Mike Dausin (PDML)
John Coyle wrote: I did not shoot a single photograph. I'll leave any further comment at this stage... What you did was fine. But honestly, people die. They really do. And taking photographs doesn't change the situation much. Now, would it have been crude, tactless, or even taboo?

Re: Moral dilemma

2007-01-22 Thread Boris Liberman
John Coyle wrote: What would you have done? Yesterday, a young man died in the small park opposite where I live. The street was full of police and their vehicles, for about 5 hours all told. Despite the fact that I could see all this action, and from our roof could see the body and the

Dilemma.

2006-08-04 Thread Vid Strpic
Buy *istDL today, or wait a little to get K100D in my country? Prices will most probably be about the same but what's new in K100D, that I desperately need? Very little... so, I'm perplexed, which one to buy. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], IRC:[EMAIL PROTECTED], /bin/zsh. C|NK --

Re: Dilemma.

2006-08-04 Thread P. J. Alling
If your choice is between the *ist-DL and the K100D then your choice is obvious, wait for the K100. The major specifications are all the same, except you for the addition of shake reduction, which should be a big plus. If you were contemplating the K110D, then I'd say get the DL now. For all

RE: Dilemma.

2006-08-04 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
SR, better AF, improved exposure...I would wait. --- Vid Strpic [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Buy *istDL today, or wait a little to get K100D in my country? Prices will most probably be about the same but what's new in K100D, that I desperately need? Very little... so, I'm perplexed,

Re: Dilemma.

2006-08-04 Thread Vid Strpic
P. J. Alling wrote: If your choice is between the *ist-DL and the K100D then your choice is obvious, wait for the K100. The major specifications are all the same, except you for the addition of shake reduction, which should be a big plus. If you were contemplating the K110D, then I'd say

Re: Dilemma.

2006-08-04 Thread P. J. Alling
A lot of people seem to be confusing the K10D, (if that's what it will be called), the K100D and the K110D. I just wanted to be clear. The K100D is already available everywhere on line and in stock at BH photo, by the way, it should be a short wait. Vid Strpic wrote: P. J. Alling wrote:

Re: Dilemma.

2006-08-04 Thread Adam Maas
It's starting to show up in stores now, not widely available. I'd expect another couple of weeks before wide availability. -Adam P. J. Alling wrote: A lot of people seem to be confusing the K10D, (if that's what it will be called), the K100D and the K110D. I just wanted to be clear. The

Re: Dilemma.

2006-08-04 Thread Vid Strpic
Adam Maas wrote: It's starting to show up in stores now, not widely available. I'd expect another couple of weeks before wide availability. That's the problem, I could buy it in USA, but shipping and taxes. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], IRC:[EMAIL PROTECTED], /bin/zsh. C|NK --

Re: Dilemma.

2006-08-04 Thread pnstenquist
Wait. The K100D is a next generation camera, and it has image stabilization. Paul -- Original message -- From: Vid Strpic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Buy *istDL today, or wait a little to get K100D in my country? Prices will most probably be about the same but what's

Re: Dilemma.

2006-08-04 Thread Carlos Royo
Vid Strpic wrote: Buy *istDL today, or wait a little to get K100D in my country? Prices will most probably be about the same but what's new in K100D, that I desperately need? Very little... so, I'm perplexed, which one to buy. Wait until the K100D shows in your country. You will get

The real digital dilemma - was: Bailing out.

2006-03-26 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My problem is that photography has become more of a production line than an art. There's another thing that's nagging me about digital: With analog, it takes very little money to produce a technical quality that can't be distinguished from what you get

Re: The real digital dilemma - was: Bailing out.

2006-03-26 Thread Paul Stenquist
Very high quality analog equipment is certainly much more attainable than comparable digital equipment at the present time. But this will change as the digital market matures. Of course that will take time. What matters more to me is that I can achieve very high quality color printing at home

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