Re: So the Luminous Landscape is going behind a pay wall...

Larry, Are you implying that TOP is sci-fi too? ;-) Igor Tue Dec 1 13:48:06 EST 2015 Larry Colen wrote: Ralf R Radermacher wrote: Am 01.12.15 um 14:56 schrieb Darren Addy: Forgive my ignorance, but what is TOP. I'm tempted to answer that, in this case, ignorance is bliss. So, click at

Re: So the Luminous Landscape is going behind a pay wall...

; "magazines" on Flipboard, and from looking up topics myself; once in a while > this has led me to Luminous Landscape, but not often > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the

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Re: So the Luminous Landscape is going behind a pay wall...

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Re: So the Luminous Landscape is going behind a pay wall...

On 11/30/2015 9:15 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Bruce Walker wrote: Interesting! Also interesting that I'd never have known this until months from now, if ever. I simply can't recall the last time I consulted LuLa for anything. Yeah, it's kind of sad what Luminous landscape has become – a sort

Re: So the Luminous Landscape is going behind a pay wall...

TOP - The Online Photographer. I wonder if I should send them a cat photo & try to cheer Mike up? On 12/1/2015 8:56 AM, Darren Addy wrote: Forgive my ignorance, but what is TOP. On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 4:06 AM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: Am 30.11.15 um 23:44 schrieb P.J.

Re: So the Luminous Landscape is going behind a pay wall...

Ralf R Radermacher wrote: Am 01.12.15 um 14:56 schrieb Darren Addy: Forgive my ignorance, but what is TOP. I'm tempted to answer that, in this case, ignorance is bliss. So, click at your own risk: http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/blog_index.html Ctein,

Re: So the Luminous Landscape is going behind a pay wall...

Am 30.11.15 um 23:44 schrieb P.J. Alling: Oh, if only Kennyboy would end his internet career by doing the same thing. ...and, once we're at it, TOP as well. Haven't visited LL and Ken's site in years. Recently had a look at TOP and all I saw were endless posts about all the problems he's

Re: So the Luminous Landscape is going behind a pay wall...

A web blog run by Mike Johnston, who was once, a member of this list. Maybe he's still a lurker, I don't know. He burned quite a few members who paid for his newsletter, maybe about the that newsletter itself, or about a self published book? They paid in advance? I don't remember, my

Re: So the Luminous Landscape is going behind a pay wall...

Forgive my ignorance, but what is TOP. On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 4:06 AM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > Am 30.11.15 um 23:44 schrieb P.J. Alling: > >> Oh, if only Kennyboy would end his internet career by doing the same >> thing. > > > ...and, once we're at it, TOP as well. > >

Re: So the Luminous Landscape is going behind a pay wall...

Am 01.12.15 um 14:56 schrieb Darren Addy: Forgive my ignorance, but what is TOP. I'm tempted to answer that, in this case, ignorance is bliss. So, click at your own risk: http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/blog_index.html Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher -

Re: So the Luminous Landscape is going behind a pay wall...

Bruce Walker wrote: >Interesting! > >Also interesting that I'd never have known this until months from now, >if ever. I simply can't recall the last time I consulted LuLa for >anything. Yeah, it's kind of sad what Luminous landscape has become – a sort of Robb Report (a luxury

Re: So the Luminous Landscape is going behind a pay wall...

;>Also interesting that I'd never have known this until months from now, >>if ever. I simply can't recall the last time I consulted LuLa for >>anything. > > Yeah, it's kind of sad what Luminous landscape has become – a sort of > Robb Report (a luxury goods magazine whic

Re: So the Luminous Landscape is going behind a pay wall...

Interesting! Also interesting that I'd never have known this until months from now, if ever. I simply can't recall the last time I consulted LuLa for anything. I'm sure they offer value for their knowledge base, but everything is also freely available with some Googling. Yeah, too bad about the

So the Luminous Landscape is going behind a pay wall...

Which brings up an interesting thought, I wonder if I could actually get people to pay me to indulge my hobbies. Oh, if only Kennyboy would end his internet career by doing the same thing. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying.

Re: Using the 645z for Astrophotography at the Luminous Landscape

Stanley Halpin wrote: One other point about lens speed: the importance of wide apertures has seriously diminished (except for very specialized niche applications that call for shallow DOF) - the ability to shoot clean shots at ISO6400 or 12800 really makes “fast” lenses a relic of the

Re: Using the 645z for Astrophotography at the Luminous Landscape

On Oct 7, 2014, at 04:10 , Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Stanley Halpin wrote: One other point about lens speed: the importance of wide apertures has seriously diminished (except for very specialized niche applications that call for shallow DOF) - the ability to shoot clean shots

Re: Using the 645z for Astrophotography at the Luminous Landscape

On 10/7/2014 12:32 AM, Stanley Halpin wrote: On Oct 6, 2014, at 10:38 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/6/2014 9:33 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Stanley Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: On Oct 6, 2014, at 4:26 PM, Larry Colen

Re: Using the 645z for Astrophotography at the Luminous Landscape

On Oct 7, 2014, at 10:24 , P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Just for example why was 135mm the most popular long lens for 35mm film for such a long time? It's a funny focal length. Doesn't match any particular rule that I ever heard. Well it was the normal focal length for

Re: Using the 645z for Astrophotography at the Luminous Landscape

Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote: On Oct 7, 2014, at 10:24 , P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Just for example why was 135mm the most popular long lens for 35mm film for such a long time? It's a funny focal length. Doesn't match any particular rule that I ever heard.

Re: Using the 645z for Astrophotography at the Luminous Landscape

P.J. Alling wrote: and wonder of wonders it's got some interesting information for free. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/techniques/pentax_645z_astrophotography.shtml Excellent link, though I'm afraid that if I were to spend $10K on a 645Z, I wouldn't have any money left over for the

Re: Using the 645z for Astrophotography at the Luminous Landscape

On Oct 6, 2014, at 4:26 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: P.J. Alling wrote: and wonder of wonders it's got some interesting information for free. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/techniques/pentax_645z_astrophotography.shtml Excellent link, though I'm afraid that if I were to

Re: Using the 645z for Astrophotography at the Luminous Landscape

On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Stanley Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: On Oct 6, 2014, at 4:26 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: P.J. Alling wrote: and wonder of wonders it's got some interesting information for free.

Re: Using the 645z for Astrophotography at the Luminous Landscape

Using the term astrophotography is sort of like using the term Dr. or PhD. It implies something that can be rather broad without revealing the particulars. Frankly, I think that calling Milky Way shots, (particularly with landscape sillouettes or light painting )astrophotography is a stretch. But

Re: Using the 645z for Astrophotography at the Luminous Landscape

Not off-base at all Bruce. Scale it up and look at the fastest lenses for 4x5 or 5x7 film cameras. Same reasoning. On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 8:33 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Stanley Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: On Oct 6, 2014, at

Re: Using the 645z for Astrophotography at the Luminous Landscape

On 10/6/2014 9:33 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Stanley Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: On Oct 6, 2014, at 4:26 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: P.J. Alling wrote: and wonder of wonders it's got some interesting information for free.

Re: Using the 645z for Astrophotography at the Luminous Landscape

On Oct 6, 2014, at 10:38 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/6/2014 9:33 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:23 PM, Stanley Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: On Oct 6, 2014, at 4:26 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: P.J. Alling wrote: and

Re: Using the 645z for Astrophotography at the Luminous Landscape

Sorry Bruce, P.J. - I misattributed your post, P.J., to Bruce. stan On Oct 7, 2014, at 12:32 AM, Stanley Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: On Oct 6, 2014, at 10:38 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/6/2014 9:33 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at

Using the 645z for Astrophotography at the Luminous Landscape

and wonder of wonders it's got some interesting information for free. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/techniques/pentax_645z_astrophotography.shtml -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss

The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

In which after deciding it's pretty good, the author says since I don't really need it, probably no one else does... Is it me or is every photography news blog becoming Kennyboy's? -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy, crazier. - H.L.Mencken

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

LL clearly didn't want to give this camera a favorable review and yet kind of had to because there is so little to fault about the camera. On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 11:25 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: In which after deciding it's pretty good, the author says since I don't

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

To suggest that nobody really needs it would be like telling wedding (film) photographers that their blads were unnecessary, that 135 was enough. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

This is not inconsistent with my general impression of LL; I'm not sure it's any worse than it ever was. On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 11:25 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: In which after deciding it's pretty good, the author says since I don't really need it, probably no one else

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

An aggravated, uninspired reluctant literal utterance that simply reflects his frustration at failing to produce a negative review. J - Original Message - From: P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 8:25:05 AM Subject: The Luminous

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z In which after deciding it's pretty good, the author says since I don't really need it, probably no one else does... Is it me or is every photography news blog becoming Kennyboy's? -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

at failing to produce a negative review. J - Original Message - From: P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, July 7, 2014 8:25:05 AM Subject: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z In which after deciding it's pretty good, the author says since I

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

, and the fullest realization of the dream of a 35mm quality MF camera. We all need negative, nitpicking reviews like that! I read that review a few days ago and considered posting it here under the title Rave Review of 645Z at Luminous Landscape. Seriously. The only reason I didn't is that the 645Z is so

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Richard Womer wrote: We all need negative, nitpicking reviews like that! I read that review a few days ago and considered posting it here under the title Rave Review of 645Z at Luminous Landscape. Seriously

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

: We all need negative, nitpicking reviews like that! I read that review a few days ago and considered posting it here under the title Rave Review of 645Z at Luminous Landscape. Seriously. The only reason I didn't is that the 645Z is so expensive it's a little irrelevant for virtually everyone

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

image-maker in every regard, and the fullest realization of the dream of a 35mm quality MF camera. We all need negative, nitpicking reviews like that! I read that review a few days ago and considered posting it here under the title Rave Review of 645Z at Luminous Landscape. Seriously

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

under the title Rave Review of 645Z at Luminous Landscape. Seriously. The only reason I didn't is that the 645Z is so expensive it's a little irrelevant for virtually everyone here. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

Paul Stenquist wrote: If I felt a strong need for a large sensor camera I’d go for the 8.5K 645Z over a Nikon D3x, which is 7K. And it’s only $500 more than a Leica monochrome. Not a bad price for a medium format DSLR. A slam dunk vs. the above. Oh yes. Amazing price for a med format DSLR.

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

well, you can also use the mf lenses on almost anything :D On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: If I felt a strong need for a large sensor camera I'd go for the 8.5K 645Z over a Nikon D3x, which is 7K. And it's only $500 more

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote: well, you can also use the mf lenses on almost anything :D Sadly, I think the 645-to-k-mount adapter is out of production. And it didn't support autofocus. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

true, well nothing than. On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 11:07 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote: well, you can also use the mf lenses on almost anything :D Sadly, I think the 645-to-k-mount adapter is out of production. And it didn't support autofocus.

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

From what I've heard the 6x7 lenses were superb and supposedly better than the zeiss lenses hassy used on the V series and also better than the 645 lenses. I don't know how true that exactly is, but I've heard it repeated from various people that shot MF with pentax bodies. If you factor 3-4

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

Zos Xavius wrote: From what I've heard the 6x7 lenses were superb and supposedly better than the zeiss lenses hassy used on the V series and also better than the 645 lenses. Most medium format lenses are much lower in absolute resolution than 35mm lenses. They don't need to be as good because

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

On 07/07/2014 2:22 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: The only reason I didn't is that the 645Z is so expensive it's a little irrelevant for virtually everyone here. I'm deciding if I should fire sale my 6x7 gear for some stupidly ridiculous price (I'm thinking the body, 8 lenses, bellows and

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

On 07/07/2014 2:50 PM, Luka Knezevic-Strika wrote: nikon d800 is much cheaper, why exclude it? D3x has advantages mostly in very specific realms of high-end sports photography, which definitely isn't a medium format's forte anyway. Only the size and price realy compare, but if you really want

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

Bill wrote: My wife can only kill me once. Is it too early for a Quote of the Year award? -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

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it here under the title Rave Review of 645Z at Luminous Landscape. Seriously. The only reason I didn't is that the 645Z is so expensive it's a little irrelevant for virtually everyone here. We can dream! -- -bmw Dream, dream, dream, dream Dream, dream, dream, dream When I want you

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

The Nikon doesn't take Pentax lenses. If you have used both, you won't need an explanation. shouldn't it be possible to adapt 6x7 lenses to anything 35mm and smaller? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML,

Re: The Luminous Landscape previews 645Z

Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Richard Womer wrote: We all need negative, nitpicking reviews like that! I read that review a few days ago and considered posting it here under the title Rave Review of 645Z at Luminous Landscape. Seriously. The only reason I didn't

Re: OT: The Luminous Landscape succeeds in pissing me off.

On 24 Apr 2014, at 01:55, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: OK so I'd be the last one to begrudge someone trying to make a buck. But, I've just about had it with The Luminous Landscape web site. I've seen some pretty professional product reviews on YouTube, and some pretty

Re: OT: The Luminous Landscape succeeds in pissing me off.

it with The Luminous Landscape web site. I've seen some pretty professional product reviews on YouTube, and some pretty crappy ones as well. But it takes chutzpah to do a comparison review between two different cameras that one happen to own and try to charge others for the privilege

Re: OT: The Luminous Landscape succeeds in pissing me off.

it with The Luminous Landscape web site. I've seen some pretty professional product reviews on YouTube, and some pretty crappy ones as well. But it takes chutzpah to do a comparison review between two different cameras that one happen to own and try to charge others for the privilege of watching one's

Re: OT: The Luminous Landscape succeeds in pissing me off.

, Apr 24, 2014 at 3:05 AM, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote: On 24 Apr 2014, at 01:55, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: OK so I'd be the last one to begrudge someone trying to make a buck. But, I've just about had it with The Luminous Landscape web site. I've seen some

Re: OT: The Luminous Landscape succeeds in pissing me off.

it with The Luminous Landscape web site. I've seen some pretty professional product reviews on YouTube, and some pretty crappy ones as well. But it takes chutzpah to do a comparison review between two different cameras that one happen to own and try to charge others for the privilege of watching

Re: OT: The Luminous Landscape succeeds in pissing me off.

about had it with The Luminous Landscape web site. I've seen some pretty professional product reviews on YouTube, and some pretty crappy ones as well. But it takes chutzpah to do a comparison review between two different cameras that one happen to own and try to charge others for the privilege

OT: The Luminous Landscape succeeds in pissing me off.

OK so I'd be the last one to begrudge someone trying to make a buck. But, I've just about had it with The Luminous Landscape web site. I've seen some pretty professional product reviews on YouTube, and some pretty crappy ones as well. But it takes chutzpah to do a comparison review between

Re: OT: The Luminous Landscape succeeds in pissing me off.

Kennyboy is a perfect read to test your piss-off threshold. Jack - Original Message - From: P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 5:54:39 PM Subject: OT: The Luminous Landscape succeeds in pissing me off. OK so

Re: Not so interesting post at Luminous Landscape on why the Photo industry is in the dumper.

On Mar 16, 2014, at 1:38 pm, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: Oz rode it out pretty well, but then we have some of the worlds the most strictly imposed government banking fiduciary rules and regulations too. Our banks are doing well but that's because the vast majority of them (by

Re: Not so interesting post at Luminous Landscape on why the Photo industry is in the dumper.

They are still making profit just not as much as they used to. The economic crisis was very tough in some parts, my former employer went bankrupt. I sure wasn't thinking about buying cameras then. A lot of people were getting mortgage loans in CHF before 2009 when it was cheap. Then look what

Not so interesting post at Luminous Landscape on why the Photo industry is in the dumper.

The author puts all of the blame on the camera industry, forgetting externalizes such as the generally lousy world economy over the last 6 or 7 years. http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/what_matters.shtml -- A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the crazy,

Re: Not so interesting post at Luminous Landscape on why the Photo industry is in the dumper.

To be sure it's been a tough economy, but I also think some valid points are made, especially about lenses and image quality. Cheers, Christine Sent from my iPad On Mar 15, 2014, at 11:47 AM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: The author puts all of the blame on the camera

Re: Not so interesting post at Luminous Landscape on why the Photo industry is in the dumper.

On 15/03/2014 1:34 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: To be sure it's been a tough economy, but I also think some valid points are made, especially about lenses and image quality. Note also that it has been a tough economy primarily in the USA. Granted it is a fairly large market, but it is not the

Re: Not so interesting post at Luminous Landscape on why the Photo industry is in the dumper.

Europe has had a far tougher time than the US overall. Canada's economy is small and manageable. Paul via phone On Mar 15, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 15/03/2014 1:34 PM, Christine Aguila wrote: To be sure it's been a tough economy, but I also think some

Re: Not so interesting post at Luminous Landscape on why the Photo industry is in the dumper.

On 15/03/2014 2:42 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Europe has had a far tougher time than the US overall. Canada's economy is small and manageable. Some parts of Europe yes, others no, it depends on the country (note to Paul, Europe isn't a country). The whole point is that economies that were

Re: Not so interesting post at Luminous Landscape on why the Photo industry is in the dumper.

Note to Bill: European Union, common currency. Paul via phone On Mar 15, 2014, at 4:50 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 15/03/2014 2:42 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Europe has had a far tougher time than the US overall. Canada's economy is small and manageable. Some parts of

Re: Not so interesting post at Luminous Landscape on why the Photo industry is in the dumper.

Note to Paul: Eurozone European Union. On 15 Mar 2014, at 20:55, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Note to Bill: European Union, common currency. Paul via phone On Mar 15, 2014, at 4:50 PM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote: On 15/03/2014 2:42 PM, Paul Stenquist

Re: Not so interesting post at Luminous Landscape on why the Photo industry is in the dumper.

You can always find bright spots, and yes Canada is fine, but most of Europe the notable exception being Germany, is in sorry straights, Japan has never really recovered from it's recession from 20 years ago. Anyone who believes the official numbers out of China is as delusional as well the

Re: Not so interesting post at Luminous Landscape on why the Photo industry is in the dumper.

Oz rode it out pretty well, but then we have some of the worlds the most strictly imposed government banking fiduciary rules and regulations too. On 16 March 2014 11:19, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: You can always find bright spots, and yes Canada is fine, but most of Europe

Re: Not so interesting post at Luminous Landscape on why the Photo industry is in the dumper.

Unlike ours your baking rules are probably rational. On 3/15/2014 8:38 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: Oz rode it out pretty well, but then we have some of the worlds the most strictly imposed government banking fiduciary rules and regulations too. On 16 March 2014 11:19, P.J. Alling

Re: Not so interesting post at Luminous Landscape on why the Photo industry is in the dumper.

Enjoy http://www.apra.gov.au/Pages/default.aspx ;) On 16 March 2014 12:30, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Unlike ours your baking rules are probably rational. On 3/15/2014 8:38 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: Oz rode it out pretty well, but then we have some of the worlds the most

Re: An appeal for Divergence and Simplicity from the Luminous Landscape

On Mon, 28 Oct 2013 19:06:24 + Steve Cottrell wrote: I can say that I've never accidentally turned on video on any camera I own. Me neither ;-) I have, several times. But only with the 'Q'. It has a mode-dial that is NOT locked, and can easily be moved a notch when taking it from the bag

Re: An appeal for Divergence and Simplicity from the Luminous Landscape

P.J. Alling wrote: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/an_appeal_for_divergence_and_simplicity.shtml Excellent article. Thanks for pointing it out since I almost never look at Luminous Landscape any more (that site used to be a daily must read before it became a kind of Robb Report

Re: An appeal for Divergence and Simplicity from the Luminous Landscape

ways to get into video mode, (this was especially true of DPReview IIRC), I found myself wanting to scream in the guy's face. What is it about it being primarily a Still camera that you don't get? This little article from Luminous Landscape makes covers most of my arguments, without the Pending

Re: An appeal for Divergence and Simplicity from the Luminous Landscape

in the guy's face. What is it about it being primarily a Still camera that you don't get? This little article from Luminous Landscape makes covers most of my arguments, without the Pending assault charges, though I think his plea for simplicity of control might go a bit too far in the other direction

Re: An appeal for Divergence and Simplicity from the Luminous Landscape

myself wanting to scream in the guy's face. What is it about it being primarily a Still camera that you don't get? This little article from Luminous Landscape makes covers most of my arguments, without the Pending assault charges, though I think his plea for simplicity of control might go

Re: An appeal for Divergence and Simplicity from the Luminous Landscape

On 27/10/13, David Parsons, discombobulated, unleashed: I can say that I've never accidentally turned on video on any camera I own. Me neither ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv

Re: An appeal for Divergence and Simplicity from the Luminous Landscape

On 27/10/13, Joseph McAllister, discombobulated, unleashed: In that vein, movies, whilst watching the F-1 race in India this morning, I noticed that each of the team's row of engineers peering at LCD screens of the thousands of sensors on their drivers cars had a slot between the screens and the

re: An appeal for Divergence and Simplicity from the Luminous Landscape conflated with Re: K-3 manual now available (PDF)

There are good situations for when the larger sensor in a DSLR or TTL-electronic camera, as well as the availability of the range of lenses they can use, makes sense for video work. At least at the price point I can afford in video cameras … Even professional movie makers choose DSLRs and

Re: An appeal for Divergence and Simplicity from the Luminous Landscape

face. What is it about it being primarily a Still camera that you don't get? This little article from Luminous Landscape makes covers most of my arguments, without the Pending assault charges, though I think his plea for simplicity of control might go a bit too far in the other direction

Re: An appeal for Divergence and Simplicity from the Luminous Landscape

a Still camera that you don't get? This little article from Luminous Landscape makes covers most of my arguments, without the Pending assault charges, though I think his plea for simplicity of control might go a bit too far in the other direction, and having a third dial dedicated entirely to ISO

Re: An appeal for Divergence and Simplicity from the Luminous Landscape

On Oct 28, 2013, at 1:50 PM, P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: I also want the camera to report to me what is happening at the raw file level, not the processed jpeg. I want to know just how close I am to clipping my whites and blacks. That would be nice, does /any/ current

Re: An appeal for Divergence and Simplicity from the Luminous Landscape

at Luminous Landscape any more (that site used to be a daily must read before it became a kind of Robb Report for cameras). A lot of designers need to re-read Donald Norman's The Design of Everyday Things (I'm assuming most read it – or were supposed to – in school). I still find the control layout of my

Re: An appeal for Divergence and Simplicity from the Luminous Landscape

On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 04:50:31PM -0400, P.J. Alling wrote: On 10/28/2013 4:33 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 09:57:43AM -0400, P.J. Alling wrote: I also want the camera to report to me what is happening at the raw file level, not the processed jpeg. I want to know just how

Re: An appeal for Divergence and Simplicity from the Luminous Landscape

That's very true of complex computing devices. Even Windows when it was based on MS-DOS (and NT when it's UI wasn't tightly coupled it's DOS), there were things that were at best cumbersome if not impossible to do except from the command prompt. But that's still a side issue. There are only

Re: An appeal for Divergence and Simplicity from the Luminous Landscape

What is important to you isn't necessarily important to someone else. I am really having trouble figuring out what specific problem there is with video on a still camera. Don't use it. I don't use the video function on my K-5. I also don't use the TAv mode, but I don't complain that it takes up

Re: An appeal for Divergence and Simplicity from the Luminous Landscape

So what you're saying is that you're missing the point of a dedicated stills camera, or you're missing my point. There are a lot of things that are available even on the K20D that I don't ever use. However they also don't get in the way of things that I do use. From everything I know the

Re: An appeal for Divergence and Simplicity from the Luminous Landscape

When things start becoming multifunction their use as a specialised thing suffers. Consider the Swiss Army knife, for example, or bicycle multitools - pretty good at a range of things, but not the best at any of them, and lacking the usability of the specialist thing. My bike multi tool has a

Re: An appeal for Divergence and Simplicity from the Luminous Landscape

from Luminous Landscape makes covers most of my arguments, without the Pending assault charges, though I think his plea for simplicity of control might go a bit too far in the other direction, and having a third dial dedicated entirely to ISO... Pushing a button and turning one of the e-dials isn't

Re: An appeal for Divergence and Simplicity from the Luminous Landscape

On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 07:15:27PM -0400, P.J. Alling wrote: You obviously know little about the history of UNIX. Feature creep infected it early, but it doesn't change the original concept, and some versions remained true to that concept for a long time, not BSD unfortunately. It also

Re: An appeal for Divergence and Simplicity from the Luminous Landscape

of cameras where the reviewer took off points for clunky ways to get into video mode, (this was especially true of DPReview IIRC), I found myself wanting to scream in the guy's face. What is it about it being primarily a Still camera that you don't get? This little article from Luminous Landscape

Re: An appeal for Divergence and Simplicity from the Luminous Landscape

in the guy's face. What is it about it being primarily a Still camera that you don't get? This little article from Luminous Landscape makes covers most of my arguments, without the Pending assault charges, though I think his plea for simplicity of control might go a bit too far in the other

Re: An appeal for Divergence and Simplicity from the Luminous Landscape

P.J - you say: From everything I know the only thing on the K-5 family of cameras that I really feel I need that's been done away with is the external SR switch. It was replaced, if you take an inventory of available controls with the dedicated Live View button. There is an

Re: An appeal for Divergence and Simplicity from the Luminous Landscape conflated with Re: K-3 manual now available (PDF)

You and Paul both make good points about the value of video within a DSLR. So, I will stipulate that video does have value to some. Do I care if it is included on my own camera? Not really, it doesn't bother me as long as its presence doesn't impede my use of the camera for still images (e.g.,

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Quoting Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info: There is an interesting feature on the K-5 that I recently discovered. Assume SR is turned on. Put the camera on a tripod and set the shutter release for Remote activation. Et voile, the SR is automagically turned off (and cannot be turned

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It turns off when the camera is on the tripod and you lock up the mirror... remote or no I found that out accidentally when I thought I had forgotten to switch it off. ann On 10/28/2013 23:14, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info: There is an interesting

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And I would have probably found out a lot sooner if I had used a tripod more often . . . stan On Oct 28, 2013, at 11:14 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info: There is an interesting feature on the K-5 that I recently discovered. Assume SR is turned on.

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