On Dec 17, 2005, at 11:12 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't think he was a pompous twit. I think he was a darn fine
photographer
with a unique vision and style. Someone not easy to dismiss and
someone who
will be long remembered by many people.
There was nothing pompous in Galen. He
On Dec 17, 2005, at 12:30 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Someone asked him about his working relationship with
Galen Rowell and it just stopped him in his tracks. I thought he was
going to break down and cry then and there. He didn't quite but he
came
close enough that the person who asked the
On Dec 18, 2005, at 2:11 PM, E.R.N. Reed wrote:
During the period when I used to read Outdoor Photographer (several
years ago) I noticed that Dewitt Jones brought up his shooting for
National Geographic in every single column at least once.
Since I was also in the habit of reading National
Bob,
It's his nebulous theme of claiming a somewhat heroic ability in
succeeding in getting the definitive shot.
I skipped his OP articles for some period of time when, maybe, I should
have given his writing the benefit of an adjustment in my narrow
attitude.
Jack
--- Bob Shell [EMAIL
On Dec 19, 2005, at 10:19 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
It's his nebulous theme of claiming a somewhat heroic ability in
succeeding in getting the definitive shot.
He certainly was fearless in getting to places to take those shots.
I think he was helped in his mountain climbing by being a
On Dec 18, 2005, at 8:35 AM, Pål Jensen wrote:
Better read his book Mountan light. Incidentally, his OP columns
are published in book form as Galen Rowell's Vision: The Art of
Adventure Photography and Galen Rowell's Inner Game of Outdoor
Photography. All mandatory reading if you're
Jack Davis wrote:
I can allow that Dewitt has written for NG without jealousy or
resentment.
Jack
--- Glen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 02:01 PM 12/17/2005, E.R.N. Reed wrote:
Tom C wrote:
Dewitt Jones has long been my favorite OP writer. I like his ideas
on
Apparently, you can't.
Jack
--- E.R.N. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jack Davis wrote:
I can allow that Dewitt has written for NG without jealousy or
resentment.
Jack
--- Glen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 02:01 PM 12/17/2005, E.R.N. Reed wrote:
Tom C wrote:
On 16/12/05, Kenneth Waller, discombobulated, unleashed:
No man is an island.
Yes but some of us are peninsulas.
LOL. Nice one.
I'm more of a promontory.
Cheers,
Cotty
___/\__
|| (O) | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
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- Original Message -
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I know it isn't nice to speak ill of the dead, but Galen always struck me
as a pompous twit.
You wanna meet real photographic genius, spend a day shooting with
Courtney Milne.
I don't know. I have a book by mr. Milne. I
- Original Message -
From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
He had a swaggering literary style and was a Nikon bigot.
I pointed that out to him in a letter years ago.
So whats wrong with being a Nikon bigot? I'm a Pentax bigot. I think Rowell
states several times that his
- Original Message -
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Getting past the prose was always my problem.
I have no problems with his prose but then English isn't my first
language...
Pål
On Dec 16, 2005, at 3:04 PM, Pål Jensen wrote:
I like his writing even better than his photography. Considering
how much I like his photography that says a lot!
In my opinion he was the best writer on outdoor photography ever
and his death was a great tragic loss for outdoor photographers
- Original Message -
From: Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Galen was a good friend of mine. He really didn't think of himself as
much of a writer, more as a visual artist whose subject was the grandeur
of mountains.
Maybe. But I stll think he was the greatest writer on nature
On Dec 17, 2005, at 9:29 AM, Pål Jensen wrote:
Maybe. But I stll think he was the greatest writer on nature
photgraphy out there. He was able to put into words and solve the
problems outdoor photographer struggle with. I would say his
writing is the only writing on photography that
Demeaned himself once by using a Pentax, borrowed from a complete
stranger, when his Nikon was dropped and couldn't be recovered.
He revealed his insecurity in his Outdoor Photographer writing. Maybe
some kick-back arrangement?
Sadly, it seems you haven't experienced the class of contact with a
You see the futility of it Bill?
Jack
--- Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- Original Message -
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Getting past the prose was always my problem.
I have no problems with his prose but then English isn't my first
language...
Pål
Did he make you think, like a piece of Kodachrome?
Jack
--- Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Galen was a good friend of mine. He really didn't think of himself
as
much of a writer, more as a visual artist whose
Hey Jack,
His English is better than your Norwegian.
Jostein
- Original Message -
From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)
Did he make you think, like
(WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)
Did he make you think, like a piece of Kodachrome?
Jack
--- Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Galen was a good friend of mine. He really didn't think of
himself
as
much
In a message dated 12/17/2005 6:21:42 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Galen was a good friend of mine. He really didn't think of himself
as much of a writer, more as a visual artist whose subject was the
grandeur of mountains. He really got into photography and later
Mark Roberts wrote:
Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Years ago I visited his studio in the Bay area was absolutely blown away
by his images. Seeing them in in magazine just didn't do them justice. I
felt I could step into them when I saw them in person.
A Rowell gallery is still
In a message dated 12/17/2005 8:47:34 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I read Rowell all the time back in the day when I
got photo mags.
ann sad
===
Uh, ann, a couple of years ago.
I am sure someone else can pinpoint the date.
Marnie aka Doe
- Original Message -
From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)
Did he make you think, like a piece of Kodachrome?
Jack
--- Pål Jensen
- Original Message -
From: Ann Sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sh*t - Galen Rowell died? If someone posted this
as a title before today
it never hit my mail box -
He died in a plane crash the summer of 2002. I still remember coming home
from a mountain trip and reading on photo.net
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't think he was a pompous twit. I think he was a darn fine
photographer
with a unique vision and style. Someone not easy to dismiss and someone
who
will be long remembered by many people.
I don't understand why anyone would find
Bob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think he was a better writer than he thought he was. I've read
almost everything he wrote and don't really have much of a problem
with it from an Editor's perspective. I always wanted him to write
some stuff for me, but his contract with Outdoor
Aug. 11, '02. (Born in 1940) Killed, along with his wife, Barbara and
two other passengers (I believe) in a plane crash that happened on
landing approach to the Bishop, CA airport.
In this case, his wife was not piloting the plane which was returning
from an Alaskan shoot.
Jack
--- [EMAIL
In a message dated 12/17/2005 9:24:33 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Outdoor Photographer did that once and mentioned in three separate
places in the magazine that they'd done it (and why). They still got
complaints about it. I guess OP is kinda like Playboy - people buy it
Ignoring all the reasons having been cited will not make them go away.
Jack
--- Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't think he was a pompous twit. I think he was a darn fine
photographer
with a unique vision and style.
Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 16/12/05, Kenneth Waller, discombobulated, unleashed:
No man is an island.
Yes but some of us are peninsulas.
LOL. Nice one.
I'm more of a promontory.
Funny, I could have sworn you were more of an isthmus...
--
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
I, also, enjoy George Lepp, but never miss bi-monthly, Dewitt (Basic)
Jones.
Jack
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 12/17/2005 9:24:33 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Outdoor Photographer did that once and mentioned in three separate
places in the magazine
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Outdoor Photographer did that once and mentioned in three separate
places in the magazine that they'd done it (and why). They still got
complaints about it. I guess OP is kinda like Playboy - people buy it to
look at the pictures, not read the
LOL!
Tom C.
From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:59:03 -0500
No man is an island.
Yes but some of us are peninsulas.
Kenneth Waller
- Original
In a message dated 12/17/2005 10:21:16 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yes but some of us are peninsulas.
Kenneth Waller
I am beginning to think we need some pun handicapping around here.
You, Ken, get the highest handicap.
Marnie aka Doe ;-)
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Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 20:46:59 -0600
- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts
Subject: Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)
I really
[...]
Outdoor Photographer did that once and mentioned in three
separate places in the magazine that they'd done it (and
why). They still got complaints about it. I guess OP is kinda
like Playboy - people buy it to look at the pictures, not
read the print ;-)
are you sure? I thought
I don't understand why anyone would find him pompous, let alone a twit. I
admit to never having met the guy, but he certainly didn't cloud his
photography with philosophical new age mumbo jumbo and mysticism as often
seen when other, less talented (outdoor)photographers trying to explain
Dewitt Jones has long been my favorite OP writer. I like his ideas on how
to look at things and find the shot.
Tom C.
From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)
Date: Sat
Pål Jensen wrote:
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't think he was a pompous twit. I think he was a darn fine
photographer
with a unique vision and style. Someone not easy to dismiss and
someone who
will be long remembered by many people.
I don't understand why
and find the shot.
Tom C.
From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 09:39:06 -0800 (PST)
I, also, enjoy George Lepp, but never miss bi-monthly
Tom C wrote:
Dewitt Jones has long been my favorite OP writer. I like his ideas on
how to look at things and find the shot.
Ah yes, Dewitt I shoot for National Geographic Jones.
Way more mentions of shooting for NG in his columns than there are
mentions of him in NG's index.
I'm sure Cotty will swear he's continent.
Kenneth Waller
- Original Message -
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas
Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 16/12/05, Kenneth Waller, discombobulated, unleashed:
No man is an island
At 02:01 PM 12/17/2005, E.R.N. Reed wrote:
Tom C wrote:
Dewitt Jones has long been my favorite OP writer. I like his ideas on
how to look at things and find the shot.
Ah yes, Dewitt I shoot for National Geographic Jones.
Way more mentions of shooting for NG in his columns than there are
Being a photographer, his photographic work is his legacy, not his
writing...
Tom C.
Agreed.
Kenneth Waller
- Original Message -
From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)
I actually started looking foward to each issue of OP
- Original Message -
From: E.R.N. Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ah yes, Dewitt I shoot for National Geographic Jones.
Way more mentions of shooting for NG in his columns than there are
mentions of him in NG's index.
Dewitt Jones was the one who gave Rowell his first National Geographic
- Original Message -
From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'll have to go to the library and find some old OP issues then.
Better read his book Mountan light. Incidentally, his OP columns are
published in book form as Galen Rowell's Vision: The Art of Adventure
Photography and Galen
Or incontinent..
Jack
--- Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm sure Cotty will swear he's continent.
Kenneth Waller
- Original Message -
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas
Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
I can allow that Dewitt has written for NG without jealousy or
resentment.
Jack
--- Glen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 02:01 PM 12/17/2005, E.R.N. Reed wrote:
Tom C wrote:
Dewitt Jones has long been my favorite OP writer. I like his ideas
on
how to look at things and find the shot.
No man is an island.
Yes but some of us are peninsulas.
LOL. Nice one.
I'm more of a promontory.
Funny, I could have sworn you were more of an isthmus...
I wouldn't mind meeting some nice young bays.
Cheers,
Cotty
___/\__
|| (O) | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|
Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Incidentally, his OP columns are
published in book form as Galen Rowell's Vision: The Art of Adventure
Photography and Galen Rowell's Inner Game of Outdoor Photography. All
mandatory reading if you're interested in this type of photography.
Inner Game of
Cotty wrote:
No man is an island.
Yes but some of us are peninsulas.
LOL. Nice one.
I'm more of a promontory.
Funny, I could have sworn you were more of an isthmus...
I wouldn't mind meeting some nice young bays.
I knew it! Pining for the fjords, again.
- Original Message -
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Inner Game of Outdoor Photography is effing brilliant. Haven't read
the other one. Yet.
Then you would certainly find vision equally brilliant as it is exactly in
the same vein...
PÅL
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 12/17/2005 8:47:34 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I read Rowell all the time back in the day when I
got photo mags.
ann sad
===
Uh, ann, a couple of years ago.
I am sure someone else can pinpoint the date.
Marnie
Thanks Jack - The date tells me why I missed this
news
I wasn't on list and I was driving 500 miles a day
- an unusual thing for me...
and the news on the car radio was minimal.
I also missed how he got in to a discussion here
this week :)
ann
Jack Davis wrote:
Aug. 11, '02. (Born in
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From: Cotty
Subject: Re: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas
I wouldn't mind meeting some nice young bays.
Just don't fly Quantas...
WW
- Original Message -
From: Pål Jensen
Subject: Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)
Getting past the prose was always my problem.
I have no problems with his prose but then English isn't my first
language...
I don't think it was his either. :-)
William
-
Fra: Jack Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 10. december 2005 21:23
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas
PLEASE BE RIGHT THIS TIME!!
Kostas, here is the example of Velvia you requested. Forgot link and
was wrong in a second attempt.
You may have
Well this cracks me up Jack... won't rub it in though... I promise. :-)
Tom C.
From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: RE: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:52:20 -0800 (PST)
Jens,
Thanks...I think
Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: RE: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 06:52:20 -0800 (PST)
Jens,
Thanks...I think(?)
Your great color remark may be in support of those who actually
like
Velvia's color
- Original Message -
From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 7:25 PM
Subject: RE: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas
OKAY! So there is someone else color challenged.
Personally, I think anyone liking ProviaF to be color
No man is an island. I guess that makes two of us, or three of us...
Tom C.
From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: RE: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:25:09 -0800 (PST)
OKAY! So there is someone
@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 7:25 PM
Subject: RE: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas
OKAY! So there is someone else color challenged.
Personally, I think anyone liking ProviaF to be color challenged. In
my
color vision that film is truly bizarre. I find Velvia saturated
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From: Colin J [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If I say I like Provia F, it seems I am 'color
challenged'.
But when you say you like Velvia, that is just 'a
matter of taste'.
Thank you for making that so very, very clear.
I was trying to turn the argument stated the other
- Original Message -
From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My reality is set, as stated, and the redundant offering of your
reality continues as an exercise in futility.
The point is that it has nothing to do with reality. It is your taste you
hint at representing some universal
I was never a fan of the prose of Galen Rowell.
Jack
I'm with you there. I liked his photographic work much more than his
writing. He struck me, IIRC, as a little too above it all. Maybe I was
just jealous.
Tom C.
Pal, you are fixated on the word saturation. As it applies to Velvia,
saturation is the least of its problems.
Jack
--- Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Colin J [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If I say I like Provia F, it seems I am 'color
challenged'.
But
- Original Message -
From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm with you there. I liked his photographic work much more than his
writing. He struck me, IIRC, as a little too above it all. Maybe I was
just jealous.
I like his writing even better than his photography. Considering how
Pal,
Here, try this; my taste is a product of my reality.
I rest my case.
Jack
--- Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My reality is set, as stated, and the redundant offering of your
reality continues as an exercise
Here's a sample:
http://www.robertstech.com/graphics/pages/gfm_06.htm
--
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com
Yeah, I'd recognize those blue rocks a lavender sky tones as those of
an un-retouched Velvia shot.
Jack
--- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here's a sample:
http://www.robertstech.com/graphics/pages/gfm_06.htm
--
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com
- Original Message -
From: Tom C
Subject: Re: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas
I'm with you there. I liked his photographic work much more than his
writing. He struck me, IIRC, as a little too above it all. Maybe I was
just jealous.
I know it isn't nice to speak ill
No man is an island.
Yes but some of us are peninsulas.
Kenneth Waller
- Original Message -
From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas
I guess that makes two of us, or three of us...
Tom C.
From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply
Message -
From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)
- Original Message -
From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm with you there. I liked his photographic work much more than his
writing. He struck me, IIRC, as a little too above
On 16 Dec 2005 at 19:41, Pål Jensen wrote:
Personally, I think anyone liking ProviaF to be color challenged. In my
color vision that film is truly bizarre. I find Velvia saturated but
accurate in the way that it doesn't display colors that wasn't there.
Kodachrome is also weird but I
Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Years ago I visited his studio in the Bay area was absolutely blown away
by his images. Seeing them in in magazine just didn't do them justice. I
felt I could step into them when I saw them in person.
A Rowell gallery is still in operation in Bishop,
assign some of the blame to the wimp Editors,
but then, they may deserve some pompous-reducing kudos.
Jack
--- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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From: Tom C
Subject: Re: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas
I'm with you there. I liked his photographic
-
From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)
- Original Message -
From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm with you there. I liked his photographic work much more than
his
writing. He struck me, IIRC, as a little too above
- Original Message -
From: Mark Roberts
Subject: Re: Galen Rowell (WAS: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas)
I really liked his written work, to. Not necessarily the prose but the
ideas.
Getting past the prose was always my problem.
William Robb
This is very nice, Jack. Great colours. Great picture.
Regards
Jens
Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk
-Oprindelig meddelelse-
Fra: Jack Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendt: 10. december 2005 21:23
Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Emne: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas
PLEASE BE RIGHT
I can see that you're an agitator
Actually he's a spin doctor.
Kenneth Waller
-Original Message-
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas
I can see that you're an agitator
Some of the puns may be really Fab, but the list will Gain
Tom wrote:
OK... Jack... now show us a shot that's in focus or where there's not a
breeze... I think the colors of the leaves and such are just fine...
obviously shot in low light with a lot of contrast, hence the very dark
almost silhouette... but I don't find the colors, which are supposed
Pål Jensen wrote:
Right. One of the reason Velvia became the benchmark for outdoor use is
that it actually convey the concept or green or yellow for that matter,
something that is not always true for other films. There are no film known
to man that copy the world as it is. Our brain
Hi, Pal,
You're, of course, right in your statement that no image capture will
exactly replicate nature as presented to one's eye.
All is relative. 'Close to honest' is my standard in this medium.
I, also, agree that Velvia's greens and yellows are less offensive than
others in this film's unique
- Original Message -
From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You're, of course, right in your statement that no image capture will
exactly replicate nature as presented to one's eye.
All is relative. 'Close to honest' is my standard in this medium.
I, also, agree that Velvia's greens and
It's that consistent bothersome color cast that caused myself and a
number of like responders to end our use of the film some time back.
I use Provia 100F and my favorite, Astia 100F. Much closer to what my
fuzzy eyes like.
Jack
--- Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- Original Message
On 13 Dec 2005 at 12:05, Jack Davis wrote:
It's that consistent bothersome color cast that caused myself and a
number of like responders to end our use of the film some time back.
I use Provia 100F and my favorite, Astia 100F. Much closer to what my
fuzzy eyes like.
I haven't shot Velvia
In this era of societal haze, none but the most piercing din of sound
and color make it through.
This is not directed at anyone contributing to the list, but to the
general population.
I see Velvia often identified by serious published photographers ,
but it may be partially due to its resolving
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:05:55 -0800 (PST)
It's that consistent bothersome color cast that caused myself and a
number of like responders to end our use of the film some
On 13 Dec 2005 at 14:49, Jack Davis wrote:
I see Velvia often identified by serious published photographers ,
but it may be partially due to its resolving properties. The color can
be delt with in PS.
But only to the detriment of subtle detail lost in the saturation. Also there
is virtually
- Original Message -
From: Jack Davis
Subject: Re: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas
The color can
be delt with in PS.
Velvia has been around for much longer than the ability to scan slides, and
very popular since it was first introduced.
William Robb
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From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Interesting... I don't recall having a color cast problem.
There is no color cast problem with Velvia. Interestingly, there is indeed
one for Provia F (at least the first few years - maybe they've fixed it
now); a rather
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From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
But only to the detriment of subtle detail lost in the saturation.
True. In addition, Velvias high contrast and narrow latitude is a problem. I
have no problems with the colors however, although high saturations isn't
be the primary difference.
Tom C.
From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:29:15 +0100
- Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Interesting... I don't
On 13 Dec 2005 at 16:40, Tom C wrote:
According to the link I displayed, he thought Provia had a yellowish cast. I
wonder if the power of suggestion and the makining of a comparison do not come
into play.
With wine it seems, the suggestion of the label or someone else's comments can
://www.dl-c.com/Velvia%20vs%20Provia%20100F/Velvia%20vs%20Provia%20100F.html
Tom C.
From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:05:55 -0800 (PST)
It's
Black is black
I want my baby back
It's gray, it's gray
Since she went away, Ooh-Ooh
What can I do
'Cause I-I-I-I-I'm feelin' blue.
Tom C.
From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: PESO: Velvia example for Kostas
Date
Excellent points.
I keep reading only the word saturation applied to Velvia's color.
Fuji's color mix for Velvia is completely unique to that film.
Jack
--- Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 13 Dec 2005 at 14:49, Jack Davis wrote:
I see Velvia often identified by serious published
Fuji's color mix for Velvia is completely unique to that film.
Jack
As is Kraft's recipe...
Tom C.
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