Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-24 Thread John Celio
My shop's Pentax rep dropped by earlier this morning during his drive around the bay area to show off the new OptioWP. I asked him about possible ship dates for a couple lenses, and he mentioned something pretty cool: He said he was about 90% sure Pentax will be releasing a new (most likely D

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
--- John Celio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > He said he was about 90% sure Pentax will be releasing a new (most likely D > FA) 50mm f1.4 lens, since the current 50 1.4 was discontinued. There is > nothing official yet, but he expects an announcement in the relatively near > future. > > So, for

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-24 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" Subject: Re: Pentax 50mm News That's good to hear. I've been using the Pentax-A 50/1.4 and loving it, but have had a hankering for an AF series 50/1.4. I'll wait a little while with this information. :-) FWIW, i

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2005-01-24 Thread Tim Sherburne
I've noticed on that J Cowell's price index lists the F 50/1.4 as selling for slightly more than the FA 50/1.4. Is this an aberration in his statistics, or is the F a better lens? I'm guessing construction quality would be the only difference. I've always understood the construction of the F serie

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2005-01-24 Thread John Whittingham
ginal Message --- From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:55:47 -0600 Subject: Re: Pentax 50mm News > - Original Message - > From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" > Subject: Re: Pentax 50mm News > > > > &g

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2005-01-24 Thread Andre Langevin
I've noticed on that J Cowell's price index lists the F 50/1.4 as selling for slightly more than the FA 50/1.4. Is this an aberration in his statistics, or is the F a better lens? (...) Tim No, it is just not as common... Personnally I have never seen an F 50/1.4! Andre

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2005-01-24 Thread John Whittingham
ussion List Sent: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:27:18 -0800 Subject: Re: Pentax 50mm News > I've noticed on that J Cowell's price index lists the F 50/1.4 as selling > for slightly more than the FA 50/1.4. Is this an aberration in his > statistics, or is the F a better lens? I'm g

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2005-01-24 Thread Bruce Dayton
ct a full JW> frame digital?naah just dreaming. JW> John JW> -- Original Message --- JW> From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> JW> To: JW> Sent: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:55:47 -0600 JW> Subject: Re: Pentax 50mm News >> - Origi

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2005-01-24 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "John Whittingham" Subject: Re: Pentax 50mm News FWIW, if you come across an FA50/1.4, it is a very nice lens. I'd second that. Doesn't it make you wonder why a new 50mm, OK it would equate to approx 75mm on the *istD, portrait lens? or c

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-24 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: "Tim Sherburne" Subject: Re: Pentax 50mm News I've noticed on that J Cowell's price index lists the F 50/1.4 as selling for slightly more than the FA 50/1.4. Is this an aberration in his statistics, or is the F a better lens? I

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-24 Thread John Whittingham
Subject: Re: Pentax 50mm News > Hello John, > > The big reason for a new version is to have the focus clutch > capability - it allows for instant manual focus touch up just like on > the DA 16-45, DA 14 and DA 18-55. As far optical quality goes, it > wouldn't surprise me if

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2005-01-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
> >> FWIW, if you come across an FA50/1.4, it is a very nice lens. > > > > I'd second that. Doesn't it make you wonder why a new 50mm OK it > > would equate to approx 75mm on the *istD, portrait lens? or can we > > expect a full frame digital?naah just dreaming. > > I have read th

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-24 Thread John Whittingham
uot;William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:27:19 -0600 Subject: Re: Pentax 50mm News > - Original Message - > From: "John Whittingham" > Subject: Re: Pentax 50mm News > > >> FWIW, if you come across an FA50/1.4, it is a ve

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
--- John Whittingham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Will it ever happen or will we be stuck with the present > format, I'm not going digital until I know one way or the other. What's the big deal? If you buy into a Pentax digital body now, you'll need one wider lens to handle wide field of view need

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2005-01-24 Thread Herb Chong
5:46 PM Subject: Re: Pentax 50mm News I'd second that. Doesn't it make you wonder why a new 50mm, OK it would equate to approx 75mm on the *istD, portrait lens? or can we expect a full frame digital?naah just dreaming.

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2005-01-25 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005, John Whittingham wrote: > Ah, never thought of that, unfortunately I don't own a Pentax digital SLR. I > wish they had produced something like the MZ-D prototype. No you don't. Had they gone ahead, they would now be like Contax (who did produce a FF digital with the same disa

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-25 Thread John Whittingham
an 2005 20:04:10 -0500 Subject: Re: Pentax 50mm News > if they are making the lens to have a useful market life of 10 years > or more, a FF DSLR is inevitable, at a price, and if Pentax stays in > the DSLR business. > > Herb > - Original Message - > From: "Joh

RE: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-25 Thread Paul Ewins
I've got both the F50/1.7 and the F50/1.4 and there isn't any difference in the quality of construction. They tend to be pricey here in Australia but that's probably because just about everything sold with a zoom, not a 50mm prime. Both the F and FA 50mm lenses are quite rare secondhand. There are

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2005-01-25 Thread John Whittingham
cuss@pdml.net Sent: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:03:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Pentax 50mm News > --- John Whittingham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Will it ever happen or will we be stuck with the present > > format, I'm not going digital until I know one way or the > other

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2005-01-25 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005, John Whittingham wrote: > > What's the big deal? If you buy into a Pentax digital body now, > > you'll need one wider lens to handle wide field of view needs. > > I'd much prefer to save the money and spend it on a good 36mm x 24mm digital > body. Start saving. Disregarding t

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
--- John Whittingham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd much prefer to save the money and spend it on a good 36m x 24mm digital > body. Well, then you're into a long wait. I don't expect to see 24x36mm sensors being available in volume production quantities for at least 3-5 years, and the price wi

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2005-01-25 Thread John Whittingham
extra. > On the Contax G2, manual focus was also controlled from the body > ... That took some getting used to. :-) I'll bet. Best John -- Original Message --- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 08:44:

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-25 Thread John Whittingham
More cost cutting, it's about time Pentax stopped following Canon and Minolta trends, they never where scared of breaking from the norm. John -- Original Message --- From: Kostas Kavoussanakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 16:

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2005-01-25 Thread John Forbes
trends, they never where scared of breaking from the norm. John -- Original Message --- From: Kostas Kavoussanakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 16:12:19 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Re: Pentax 50mm News On Tue, 25 Jan 2005, John Whittingham w

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-25 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005, John Whittingham wrote: > > Start saving. Disregarding the good bit (;-) the Canon is > > 5.2KGBP. That's 500 times more than what you paid for your MZ-3 > > They'll come down a bit in time, besides you pay for the technology etc. According to folks in the list, not by mu

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2005-01-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
SD card Weirdness? I'm happy they went to SD cards in the *istDS. Much smaller, just as fast if not faster than what you can use with CF, and much easier to get in and out of the camera. Less prone to damage too. Godfrey --- Kostas Kavoussanakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... Plus the SD ca

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-25 Thread Rob Studdert
On 25 Jan 2005 at 14:37, John Whittingham wrote: > I'd much prefer to save the money and spend it on a good 36mm x 24mm digital > body. I would need more then one W/A lens or a very good zoom to replace 24mm, > 28mm and 35mm lenses not to mention 17mm rectilinear and 16mm Fisheye that I > also use

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-25 Thread Rob Studdert
On 25 Jan 2005 at 21:01, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: > According to folks in the list, not by much, as the silicon wafers for > this size have a great chance of yielding 0 (zero) usable sensor > chips. I understood it to be a hard, physical limitation. I think you may have misread, yields for CCD

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
--- Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Har, they'll try to wear you down. Next you'll be told that the new zooms > perform as well as primes (unfortunately even some of the new "digital" primes > aren't that spectacular in performance) and then you'll be > told that loosing the aperture r

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-25 Thread Rob Studdert
On 25 Jan 2005 at 14:38, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > I have no experience with Pentax zooms, but so far the primes > I've bought (DA14, A28/2.8, A50/1.4, M85/2, K Tak 135/2.5, > FA135/2.8, A200/4) have all proven to be very nice performers, > comparable in performance with the Canon primes I use. So

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-25 Thread Nick Clark
41 To: "pentax-discuss@pdml.net" Subject: Re: Pentax 50mm News > I have read that full frame is the future. The $64,000 question is > how far away from it are we? Will it ever happen or will we be stuck with the present format, I'm not

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-25 Thread John Whittingham
25 Jan 2005 21:01:12 + (GMT) Subject: Re: Pentax 50mm News > On Tue, 25 Jan 2005, John Whittingham wrote: > > > > Start saving. Disregarding the good bit (;-) the Canon is > > > 5.2KGBP. That's 500 times more than what you paid for your MZ-3 > > > > The

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-25 Thread John Whittingham
release it and you think "did I miss something" :) John -- Original Message --- From: "Nick Clark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 23:00:39 - Subject: Re: Pentax 50mm News > But you'll never know if Pentax are going to release a

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-25 Thread Herb Chong
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 5:38 PM Subject: Re: Pentax 50mm News I dislike zoom lenses, always get better results with primes even in the Canon system where they've put oodles of money into their L zoom lenses. The one Canon zoom I've always liked is

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
--- Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Interesting I suspect our experience and expectations differ > somewhat. That begs the question: What are your experiences and expectations? With regard to which lenses I listed? Godfrey __ Do you

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-25 Thread Graywolf
. Cost cutting is inevitable and they are offering a botch^H^H^H^H^Hworkaround. Don't hold your breath. Where did I put the MX, it's here somewhere :) John - Original Message --- From: Kostas Kavoussanakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Tue,

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-25 Thread John Celio
It *is* broke, check http://www.mail-archive.com/pentax-discuss@pdml.net/msg205063.html It's a goner; do other manufacturers support it even in the way Pentax does? More cost cutting, it's about time Pentax stopped following Canon and Minolta trends, they never where scared of breaking from the no

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-26 Thread David Mann
On Jan 26, 2005, at 5:12 AM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: Start saving. Disregarding the good bit (;-) the Canon is 5.2KGBP. 5.2 kilo-giga-billion pixels? Where can I buy one? - Dave (waiting for a 24x70mm sensor with a Pentax 67 mount in front of it) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-26 Thread Rob Studdert
On 25 Jan 2005 at 23:56, John Celio wrote: > I've gotten a lot of stubborn, crotchety old photographers (usually men) in my > shop who dislike body-controlled aperture when they come in, but love it once > they've had a chance to really try it out in the real world. Something tells > me > you're

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-26 Thread John Whittingham
ng that body aperture control is wrong I'm just stating a preference. John Whittingham Technician -- Original Message --- From: "John Celio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 23:56:43 -0800 Subject: Re: Pentax 50mm News > >> It *is* br

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-26 Thread John Whittingham
-- Original Message --- From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 08:57:54 +1000 Subject: Re: Pentax 50mm News > On 25 Jan 2005 at 14:37, John Whittingham wrote: > > > I'd much prefer to save the money and spend it

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-26 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
Rob Studdert wrote on 26.01.05 10:59: > I've had my *ist D for over a year and shot over 10k images with it and I > still > don't like the body based aperture control. Granted I use it but I can't see > one reason that it's so much improved over lens ring based controls that I'd > love it? How is

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-26 Thread John Forbes
nolta, Nikon, Fuji etc. sadly not many Pentax, I still prefer the aperure control on the lens. I'm not saying that body aperture control is wrong I'm just stating a preference. John Whittingham Technician -- Original Message --- From: "John Celio" <[EMAIL

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-26 Thread Rob Studdert
On 26 Jan 2005 at 11:58, John Forbes wrote: > Funny. I've recently bought an old MX on Ebay, and I find it very > difficult to change shutter speeds while metering through the viewfinder. I > really miss the little wheels for shutter and aperture on the Z1-P and the > *ist > D. > > People

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-26 Thread John Forbes
I can appreciate that in your case the old way was better. But for the right-eyed majority, the little wheels are markedly superior once you get used to them, IMO of course. John On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 23:32:43 +1000, Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 26 Jan 2005 at 11:58, John Forbe

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-26 Thread Rob Studdert
On 26 Jan 2005 at 13:01, John Forbes wrote: > I can appreciate that in your case the old way was better. But for the > right-eyed majority, the little wheels are markedly superior once you get > used > to them, IMO of course. Sorry if I came across a little gruff but I'm a little over being

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-26 Thread John Forbes
Just a wee bit gruff! :-) But I think I was just a wee bit dogmatic, so we're square. John On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 00:30:33 +1000, Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 26 Jan 2005 at 13:01, John Forbes wrote: I can appreciate that in your case the old way was better. But for the right-eyed m

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-26 Thread christian
Original message >Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 00:30:33 +1000 >From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >It's a little like >Tiptronic gears to me, adequate but not the same as having a clutch and H >pattern stick in hand. You have to try Ferrari/Maserati F-1 style paddle shifters... :-)

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-26 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
--- Rob Studdert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's a little like Tiptronic gears to me, adequate but not the same as having a > clutch and H pattern stick in hand. heheh... Yeah, the Tiptronic is faster shifting and doesn't interrupt power flow. (Hey, I drive a Land Rover Freelander with tipt

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-26 Thread John Whittingham
Sent: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 23:32:43 +1000 Subject: Re: Pentax 50mm News > On 26 Jan 2005 at 11:58, John Forbes wrote: > > > Funny. I've recently bought an old MX on Ebay, and I find it very > > difficult to change shutter speeds while metering through the viewfinder. I > >

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-26 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
> > The ring movement was almost a reflex action in me, I had to learn how to use an aperture ring control on the lens. I learned photography with a Rolleliflex MX, where you control the shutter speeds and lens aperture with two convenient thumbwheels on the body. Got into the habit of it with my

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-26 Thread Rob Studdert
On 26 Jan 2005 at 14:16, John Forbes wrote: > Just a wee bit gruff! :-) > > But I think I was just a wee bit dogmatic, so we're square. No problems, I just spent "Australia Day" overhauling a friends home security after a nasty burglary the day before. Police advice to the victim "get a dog",

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-26 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 1/26/2005 11:18:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the farty little wheel on the back I > just tolerate. > > Rob Studdert = Ditto for the C 300D I am using. Little wheel sets shutter speed or aperture depending on what else you trip on the came

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-26 Thread Herb Chong
To: Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 8:32 AM Subject: Re: Pentax 50mm News Bollocks. If primarily shooting aperture priority or manual with a pre-set shutter speed and manual focus an aperture ring around the lens works exceedingly well. I'm now left eye'd so my thumb is always fighti

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-26 Thread Rob Studdert
On 26 Jan 2005 at 21:13, Herb Chong wrote: > i prefer everything on the body like the *istD has because i can run all > critical functions one handed. in cold weather with gloves on, it matters a > lot. > the rest of the time, i don't care. We don't have cold here (well not like where you are),

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-26 Thread ernreed2
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > Hmmm, I wonder when one > qualifies > for old fartiness? ;-) > When one thinks one does, Marnie. So it's all up to you. ERNR

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-26 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 1/26/2005 6:30:05 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > Hmmm, I wonder when one > qualifies > for old fartiness? ;-) > When one thinks one does, Marnie. So it's all up to you. ERNR Hehehehehe. Marnie

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-26 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 20:45:47 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ditto for the C 300D I am using. Let's start by saying it together:: "Canon" Okay, very good. Now again: "Canon". Okay, this time on your own: "." See, that's not so hard, is it? "I knew ya could do

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-26 Thread frank theriault
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 20:45:47 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In a message dated 1/26/2005 11:18:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > the farty little wheel on the back I > > just tolerate. > > > > Rob Studdert > = > Ditto for the C 300D I am usi

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-26 Thread Doug Franklin
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 20:28:43 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > > Hmmm, I wonder when one > > qualifies > > for old fartiness? ;-) > > When one thinks one does, Marnie. So it's all up to you. I've been an old fart since about age 21. :-) TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-26 Thread Peter J. Alling
It isn't better, only different. I find it makes the camera a bit more difficult to hold when changing both aperture and shutter speed at the same time, yes I know that's what hyper program is for but I just like to keep my camera in manual mode most of the time. John Celio wrote: It *is* brok

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-27 Thread David Mann
On Jan 27, 2005, at 4:47 PM, frank theriault wrote: Let's start by saying it together:: "Canon" Okay, very good. Now again: "Canon". Okay, this time on your own: Can-off... Can't-on... - Dave (still can't quite do it) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-27 Thread Cotty
The answer is: 2008/9 >I have read that full frame is the future. The $64,000 question is >how far away from it are we? (with apologies to the Great Karnac) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-27 Thread Cotty
On 24/1/05, John Celio, discombobulated, unleashed: >P.P.S.: the OptioWP seemed like a very nice camera, but it wasn't a working >model, so I couldn't take any sample shots with it. Yeah but did you run some water over it? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche |

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-27 Thread Mark Roberts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > >> Hmmm, I wonder when one qualifies for old fartiness? ;-) > >When one thinks one does, Marnie. So it's all up to you. You don't *qualify* for old fartiness, you *aspire* to it! -- Mark Roberts Photography and w

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-27 Thread christian
Original message >Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:22:35 +1000 >From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >We don't have cold here (well not like where you are), we have heat, plenty of >it, two hands holding the camera stops it from slipping out of sweaty hands :-) Poor you :-P Act

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-27 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:30:56 +1300, David Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can-off... > > Can't-on... > Don't get discouraged, Dave. You're doing very well. Just keep at it, and soon, you won't believe you ever had this affliction. cheers, f***k (my, that looks naughty, doesn't it? ) --

Re: Pentax 50mm News

2005-01-27 Thread Peter J. Alling
Only to those who can't spell the w**d. frank theriault wrote: On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:30:56 +1300, David Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Can-off... Can't-on... Don't get discouraged, Dave. You're doing very well. Just keep at it, and soon, you won't believe you ever had this affliction. c

Focus Direction [was: Pentax 50mm News]

2005-01-26 Thread Fred
Hi, John. > While I'm on the subject of niggles two of my > pet hates are: > 1. Lenses whos focusing ring turns in the opposite direction to a genuine > Pentax lens. (Congrats to Sigma on the Syncho II lenses) This is something that is less important to me now than it used to be. At one time,

Re: Focus Direction [was: Pentax 50mm News]

2005-01-26 Thread John Whittingham
am quite used to one- > touch zooms functioning as you describe. I'm sure you're right there, although I do own one exception: SMC Pentax M 35- 70 f2.8/3.5, I've had some very nice results from it. It's been good to share some thoughts and comments with you. John --

Re: DA14mm f/2.8 quality (was: Pentax 50mm News)

2005-01-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
--- Herb Chong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > my DA 14 is noticeably less sharp than my DA 16-45, and that > is about the same as my FA* 80-200. i haven't shot enough yet with my FA* > 28-70, but given what i have seen from others, i expect it to be equally > good. Less sharp ... in the center, at t

Re: DA14mm f/2.8 quality (was: Pentax 50mm News)

2005-01-25 Thread Herb Chong
t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 8:08 PM Subject: Re: DA14mm f/2.8 quality (was: Pentax 50mm News) Less sharp ... in the center, at the edges, at what f/stops, etc, at what settings on the DA16-45? How are you comparing them? I find the DA14 satisfactorily sharp acros

Re: DA14mm f/2.8 quality (was: Pentax 50mm News)

2005-01-25 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
ame. > > Herb... > - Original Message - > From: "Godfrey DiGiorgi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 8:08 PM > Subject: Re: DA14mm f/2.8 quality (was: Pentax 50mm News) > > > > Less sharp ... in the center, a

Re: DA14mm f/2.8 quality (was: Pentax 50mm News)

2005-01-26 Thread Herb Chong
nuary 25, 2005 8:56 PM Subject: Re: DA14mm f/2.8 quality (was: Pentax 50mm News) Interesting. At f/8, the DA14mm's aperture is less than 2mm in diameter where the FA16-45 is at 2mm or greater. Perhaps you're seeing the onset of diffraction, reducing the resolution. How do they compar

Re: DA14mm f/2.8 quality (was: Pentax 50mm News)

2005-01-28 Thread DagT
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 8:08 PM Subject: Re: DA14mm f/2.8 quality (was: Pentax 50mm News) Less sharp ... in the center, at the edges, at what f/stops, etc, at what settings on the DA16-45? How are you comparing them? I find the DA14 satisfactorily sharp across th

Things I like about aperture rings on lenses (was Re: Pentax 50mm News)

2005-01-26 Thread Derby Chang
1. You can feel how many stops you are changing by how much you twist the ring. Body control dial means you need to either watch the display or count the clicks. I can also feel where the aperture is by using my thumb to feel for the A-lock button. 2. The right hand is busy enough (ahem). Dist

Re: Things I like about aperture rings on lenses (was Re: Pentax 50mm News)

2005-01-26 Thread Derby Chang
Derby Chang wrote: 1. You can feel how many stops you are changing by how much you twist the ring. Body control dial means you need to either watch the display or count the clicks. I can also feel where the aperture is by using my thumb to feel for the A-lock button. 2. The right hand is busy

Re: Things I like about aperture rings on lenses (was Re: Pentax 50mm News)

2005-01-26 Thread John Whittingham
Now that's what I'd call progress :) John -- Original Message --- From: Derby Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Pentax Discuss Sent: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 07:58:26 +1100 Subject: Things I like about aperture rings on lenses (was Re: Pentax 50mm News) > 1. You can

Re: Things I like about aperture rings on lenses (was Re: Pentax 50mm News)

2005-01-26 Thread Rob Studdert
On 26 Jan 2005 at 21:59, John Whittingham wrote: > Now that's what I'd call progress :) Hmm, yes, I still haven't seen such a list to show why thumb-wheel control is such an advantage over lens based aperture control :-) Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours

Re: Things I like about aperture rings on lenses (was Re: Pentax 50mm News)

2005-01-26 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
This kind of point-counter point can be fun... > From: Derby Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > 1. You can feel how many stops you are changing by how much you > twist the ring. Body control dial means you need to either watch > the display or count the clicks. I can also feel where the > aperture is

Re: Things I like about aperture rings on lenses (was Re: Pentax 50mm News)

2005-01-26 Thread John Whittingham
Pentax LX, MX, KX. John -- Original Message --- From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:09:51 +1000 Subject: Re: Things I like about aperture rings on lenses (was Re: Pentax 50mm News) > On 26 Jan 2005 at

Re: Things I like about aperture rings on lenses (was Re: Pentax 50mm News)

2005-01-26 Thread Rob Studdert
On 26 Jan 2005 at 14:13, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > This kind of point-counter point can be fun... Sure can :-) > I always count the clicks with a lens ring, or have to turn the > camera to look at the dial. While I'm usually watching my shutter speed in the finder whilst on-the-ring. > My righ

Re: Things I like about aperture rings on lenses (was Re: Pentax 50mm News)

2005-01-26 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
> ... I did laugh when I saw the example image of how to hold a > camera in one of the late film body manuals, both hands > gripping the body like a steering wheel, makes you wonder if the > designers of the gadgets are actually photographers. lol ... I know what you mean. It's the most unstable

Re: Things I like about aperture rings on lenses (was Re: Pentax 50mm News)

2005-01-26 Thread Jon M
My preference is also for the aperture ring on the lens. With the LX, I can even see what it is from the viewfinder. --- Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This kind of point-counter point can be fun... > > > From: Derby Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > 1. You can feel how many sto

RE: Things I like about aperture rings on lenses (was Re: Pentax 50mm News)

2005-01-26 Thread Jens Bladt
et.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Rob Studdert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 27. januar 2005 00:10 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: Re: Things I like about aperture rings on lenses (was Re: Pentax 50mm News) On 26 Jan 2005 at 21:59, John Whittingham wrote: > Now that's

Re: Things I like about aperture rings on lenses (was Re: Pentax 50mm News)

2005-01-26 Thread Peter J. Alling
Pentax LX, MX, KX. John -- Original Message --- From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:09:51 +1000 Subject: Re: Things I like about aperture rings on lenses (was Re: Pentax 50mm News) On 26 Jan 2005 at 21:59, Joh

RE: Things I like about aperture rings on lenses (was Re: Pentax 50mm News)

2005-01-27 Thread John Whittingham
rture rings on lenses (was Re: Pentax 50mm News) > The Pz-1/PZ-1p had both options. That's a progress! As far as flash > photography goes, the *ist D has too. > Someday, someone might make a camera, without the aperture simulator, > but with the e-wheel moved from the body to the lens

Re: Things I like about aperture rings on lenses (was Re: Pentax 50mm News)

2005-01-27 Thread John Whittingham
al Message --- From: "Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 02:38:43 -0500 Subject: Re: Things I like about aperture rings on lenses (was Re: Pentax 50mm News) > They don't really, they meter wide open, and stop down, all th

Re: Things I like about aperture rings on lenses (was Re: Pentax 50mm News)

2005-01-27 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Rob Studdert wrote: > On 26 Jan 2005 at 14:13, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > > > My right hand is much more prehensile than my left hand. I use > > the latter for a support, and occasionally for manual focusing. > > I like my right hand in control of all exposure (ahem). > > My ha

Re: Things I like about aperture rings on lenses (was Re: Pentax 50mm News)

2005-01-27 Thread Steve Desjardins
No, that would be holding it out in the air while using the rear LCD screen as a viewfinder. ;-) Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/26/2005 5:58:36 PM >>> > ...

Re: Things I like about aperture rings on lenses (was Re: Pentax 50mm News)

2005-01-27 Thread Rob Studdert
On 27 Jan 2005 at 13:16, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: > Ah, I can tell you about that. I initially followed the advise on the > MZ-50 manual to use the left to support (and handle) the lens. I ended > up with invariably tilted horizons. I asked a friend, who suggested > that I not flick the shutte

Re: Things I like about aperture rings on lenses (was Re: Pentax 50mm News)

2005-01-27 Thread Peter J. Alling
- From: "Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 02:38:43 -0500 Subject: Re: Things I like about aperture rings on lenses (was Re: Pentax 50mm News) They don't really, they meter wide open, and stop down, all the way, f

Re: Things I like about aperture rings on lenses (was Re: Pentax 50mm News)

2005-01-27 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005, Rob Studdert wrote: > So now your images have straight horizons with shake induced blur? The latter parameter never changed. Kostas

Re: Things I like about aperture rings on lenses (was Re: Pentax 50mm News)

2005-01-27 Thread Cotty
On 27/1/05, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed: >Oh, just thought of one more. Aperture rings let you set hyperfocus >distance (not that I do it that much) Very good point! Doing landscapes on the 1D and K15mm I use the aperture ring constantly, albeit on a tripod. It is nice to use. C

RE: Things I like about aperture rings on lenses (was Re: Pentax 50mm News)

2005-01-27 Thread Jens Bladt
s@pdml.net Emne: Re: Things I like about aperture rings on lenses (was Re: Pentax 50mm News) They don't really, they meter wide open, and stop down, all the way, for exposure. I suppose that on an LX you'd get the proper exposure, in automatic mode, but you'd have not a clue what your

Re: Things I like about aperture rings on lenses (was Re: Pentax 50mm News)

2005-01-27 Thread John Whittingham
RC. Thats very reasuring to know, thanks. John -- Original Message --- From: "Peter J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Sent: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:57:31 -0500 Subject: Re: Things I like about aperture rings on lenses (was Re: Pentax 50mm News)

RE: Things I like about aperture rings on lenses (was Re: Pentax 50mm News)

2005-01-27 Thread Jens Bladt
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: John Whittingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 27. januar 2005 09:40 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Emne: RE: Things I like about aperture rings on lenses (was Re: Pentax 50mm News) > The Pz-1/PZ-1p had both

Re: Things I like about aperture rings on lenses (was Re: Pentax 50mm News)

2005-01-27 Thread Rob Studdert
On 27 Jan 2005 at 16:45, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: > On Fri, 28 Jan 2005, Rob Studdert wrote: > > > So now your images have straight horizons with shake induced blur? > > The latter parameter never changed. So do they still contain shake induced blur? :-) Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA

Re: Things I like about aperture rings on lenses (was Re: Pentax 50mm News)

2005-01-27 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 16:45:10 + (GMT), Kostas Kavoussanakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 28 Jan 2005, Rob Studdert wrote: > > > So now your images have straight horizons with shake induced blur? > > The latter parameter never changed. > > Kostas > See sig, below... -frank -- "

Re: Things I like about aperture rings on lenses (was Re: Pentax 50mm News)

2005-01-27 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 18:13:30 +, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 27/1/05, Derby Chang, discombobulated, unleashed: > > >Oh, just thought of one more. Aperture rings let you set hyperfocus > >distance (not that I do it that much) > > Very good point! > > Doing landscapes on the 1D and K1

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