Too true, and their imaging division is one of the more profitable
portions of the company...
On 11/20/2018 1:58 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
https://www.channele2e.com/news/ricoh-layoffs-2018-management-staff-cuts-business-unit-sale/
And from Reuters:
"Ricoh and legacy companies that supply
https://www.channele2e.com/news/ricoh-layoffs-2018-management-staff-cuts-business-unit-sale/
And from Reuters:
"Ricoh and legacy companies that supply office printing equipment such as Xerox
Corp have been looking to sell assets and focus on other areas of growth as
paper printing increasingly
> On 17 November 2018 at 10:49 Jostein wrote:
>
>
>
> Den 16.11.2018 22:30, skrev Steve Cottrell:
> > That's all true.
> > Except when I tried it, I placed my passport on the scanner, looked into
> > the camera, and a door opened on the machine, a large hand shot out and
> > slapped my face.
Den 16.11.2018 22:30, skrev Steve Cottrell:
That's all true.
Except when I tried it, I placed my passport on the scanner, looked into the
camera, and a door opened on the machine, a large hand shot out and slapped my
face.
With a dead fish, I assume? :-D
Jostein
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photos without glasses for people who wear them
all the time is beyond me.
John in Brisbane
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On 15/11/18, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed:
>I recently had to renew my (British) passport. Not only was I able to submit
>my photograph as a digital image - the passport itself also contains an
>encoded
>form of the image, readable electronically. And apparently at some UK
>airports
On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 12:31 PM Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>
> When one gets to be my age, "the future" of anything is irrelevant.
Mark!
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-37552116
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On 16 Nov 2018, at 18:39, Alan C mailto:c...@lantic.net>>
wrote:
They say the first person who will live to 150 is already living. You may just
be he!
Alan C
On 16-Nov-18 07:30 PM, Daniel J. Matyola
They say the first person who will live to 150 is already living. You
may just be he!
Alan C
On 16-Nov-18 07:30 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
When one gets to be my age, "the future" of anything is irrelevant.
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Bill Hewlett and David Packard planned on creating the paperless office;
instead, they gave us the laser printer.
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On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 5:08 AM Jostein wrote:
>
> Den 15.11.2018 14:39, skrev Bruce Walker:
> > "Paperless office".
Den 15.11.2018 14:39, skrev Bruce Walker:
"Paperless office". Pffft. :-)
LOL.
When a new pharmaceutical product is launched, the company has to apply
for market authorisation in USA, Canada, EU, Japan and China separately.
Or used to anyway... Not sure about the current status of
The PDML is not a mess of cormorants. It's more like a collegium of
cormorantii.
Jostein
Den 15.11.2018 08:38, skrev Bob W-PDML:
On a point of grammar, the collective noun for cormorants is not 'flock' - we
say 'a mess of cormorants', and 'a shag-bag'.
On 15 Nov 2018, at 02:24, Igor
Not to be insulting to anyone but I do find myself being in the position of not
giving a Phalacrocorax.
> On 16 November 2018 at 02:27 Igor PDML-StR wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Lads, I suspect you might be talking about two different shags.
> As I've written in my earlier response:
>
> >> I knew a
Lads, I suspect you might be talking about two different shags.
As I've written in my earlier response:
I knew a dance called "shag" (aka Collegiate Shag, which is different
from Carolina Shag).
Based on the location, background and the music mentioned, I suspect Larry
is talking about
On Behalf Of John Francis
> > Sent: Friday, 16 November 2018 10:34 AM
> > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> > Subject: Re: What do you think about the future of Pentax "flagship"
> APS-C-
> > camera line?
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 11:49:48AM -05
all the time is beyond me.
John in Brisbane
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Friday, 16 November 2018 10:34 AM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: What do you think about the future of Pentax "flagship"
APS-C-
&
to time.. Now, twenty years
later, I'm still using the printed-on-one-side only waste for internal test
reports!
John in Brisbane
> -Original Message-
> From: PDML On Behalf Of Igor PDML-StR
> Sent: Friday, 16 November 2018 2:28 AM
> To: PDML@pdml.net
> Subject: Re: What do
On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 10:42:57AM +0100, Rick Womer wrote:
> IIRC, in an interview at one of the big shows last spring, a Pentax honcho
> said that a K-3ii successor was their first development priority.
I'm still hoping that this product will eventually materialise.
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On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 11:49:48AM -0500, John wrote:
> On 11/15/2018 04:42, Rick Womer wrote:
> > IIRC, in an interview at one of the big shows last spring, a Pentax honcho
> > said that a K-3ii successor was their first development priority.
> >
> > It???s also true, though, that Ricoh (and all
On 15/11/18, John, discombobulated, unleashed:
>Cotty & Bob - you can just go ahead and get your minds out of the gutter
>right now.
A lot lower than the gutter John ;-)
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On 11/15/2018 12:44, l...@red4est.com wrote:
Nope, those aren't shaggable either. Actually, for me nothing is. I might be
able to fake balboa, but I'd need at least a few minutes to learn to shag.
Wander into any bar in Myrtle Beach, SC & there's someone there who can teach
you. I learned
On November 15, 2018 9:26:53 AM PST, John wrote:
>On 11/15/2018 08:06, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> "Dance this mess around!" ;-)
>> https://youtu.be/VN8hV4AyNss?t=7
>>
>
>Except you can't dance "the shag" to that. You're going to need another
>Atlanta
>band:
>
On 11/15/2018 08:06, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
:-)
"Dance this mess around!" ;-)
https://youtu.be/VN8hV4AyNss?t=7
Except you can't dance "the shag" to that. You're going to need another Atlanta
band:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9GyJ9dhMgY
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tams
OR
On 11/15/2018 08:39, Bruce Walker wrote:
When I began my career in 1978 I worked for one of the then Big Three
word processor companies (AES Data, Canada's answer to Wang and IBM)
and the phrase "paperless office" was widely heard. Paper would soon
be obsolete.
When I wrapped up my full time
On 11/15/2018 04:42, Rick Womer wrote:
IIRC, in an interview at one of the big shows last spring, a Pentax honcho
said that a K-3ii successor was their first development priority.
It’s also true, though, that Ricoh (and all the other office equipment
companies) are having a terrible time as the
In my experience, consumer computing technologies gave boost to
higher paper consumption, including very frequently senseless paper waste.
In the era of typewriters, for a few errors, people would use a
white-out, and only occasionally would reprint the entire page. With
computers, people
When I began my career in 1978 I worked for one of the then Big Three
word processor companies (AES Data, Canada's answer to Wang and IBM)
and the phrase "paperless office" was widely heard. Paper would soon
be obsolete.
When I wrapped up my full time career in 2010 I worked in the Toronto
office
:-)
"Dance this mess around!" ;-)
https://youtu.be/VN8hV4AyNss?t=7
Bob W-PDML Wed, 14 Nov 2018 23:39:17 -0800 wrote:
On a point of grammar, the collective noun for cormorants is not 'flock' -
we say 'a mess of cormorants', and 'a shag-bag'.
On Wed, 14 Nov 2018, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
IIRC, in an interview at one of the big shows last spring, a Pentax honcho
said that a K-3ii successor was their first development priority.
It’s also true, though, that Ricoh (and all the other office equipment
companies) are having a terrible time as the world abandons paper
documents.
Rick
On a point of grammar, the collective noun for cormorants is not 'flock' - we
say 'a mess of cormorants', and 'a shag-bag'.
> On 15 Nov 2018, at 02:24, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
>
>
> I knew a dance called "shag" (aka Collegiate Shag, which is different from
> Carolina Shag). I also knew the
some of us were hoping for an incremental upgrade to a 'flagship' which
had the sensor of the kp and the form factor of the k3-ii. it was not to
be and i finally went for the k3-ii.
On Wed, 14 Nov 2018 14:02:59 -0500 (EST)
Igor PDML-StR wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> While considering various options
I knew a dance called "shag" (aka Collegiate Shag, which is different from
Carolina Shag). I also knew the slang meaning used chiefly by Brits.
But I just have learnt what species of birds this word applies to
(especially for people from NZ). That way it became so relevant to PDML!
But how
What PDML needs is a shagflip camera.
Jostein
Den 14.11.2018 20:02, skrev Igor PDML-StR:
Hi All,
While considering various options of replacing my failed camera, I've
considered of what would be the next steps of Pentax with respect to
the new models.
Asahi Man (a reputable
I would agree except, they can't really afford to give up any ground.
Pentax is known, as far as it is known, for having one of the best, if
not the best line of dedicated APS-C lenses, many like the limited line,
of extremely high build quality.
The K-1 is needlessly large compared to the
The k-1 works just fine as an aps camera. With their limited resources it would
make sense to only have one flagship.
On November 14, 2018 11:02:59 AM PST, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
>
>Hi All,
>
>While considering various options of replacing my failed camera, I've
>considered of what would be the
I think I'd love to have one except for the 28mm-e lens. I rarely go
that wide and it's essentially useless for portraiture. Great specs in
all other respects though.
Here's hoping they do well with this and opt for a 50mm-e or narrower
version some day.
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 11:51 AM, J.C.
I blurted:
Great specs in all other respects though.
I take that back: I now see there's no feckin' viewfinder. Oh well,
another one bites the dust.
Although, at 28mm-e, I suppose you hardly _need_ a viewfinder since
most of what's in front of you is in the frame. ;-)
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at
Today I had the chance to briefly hold this camera at a photo show and it feels
extremely well (ergonomically speaking).
The fixed lens limits the uses of the camera, but is mandatory to reach this
size and (presumibly) IQ.
I have read some early comparisons and it seems very competitive with
Possibly the wrong f/l for me, and I already have too many cameras. In every
other respect it is great. Sure, no EVF, but there is an accessory optical
finder and if I understand it the snap shoot feature correctly that would be
enough to make this a great street camera and possibly travel
I find it quite excellent. I had a chance to compare it to the 14/2.8, and it's
at least equal to that lens at f4, even at 12mm. I use it frequently to shoot
car interiors. Never had a complaint.
Paul
On Jan 29, 2010, at 1:25 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:
I wonder what is people's impression
My copy is sharp from corner to corner. Great color and flare
resistance. If you want perfect results feed it through DxO. All
remaining minor flaws are fixed (CA, vignetting, distortion).
Toine
2010/1/29 Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org:
I wonder what is people's impression of Pentax DA 12-24.
On Jan 29, 2010, at 1:25 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:
I wonder what is people's impression of Pentax DA 12-24.
To me it seems ok, but I am not overly thrilled with it.
As an addendum, pleased is as high as my lens meter goes.
I reserve overly thrilled for sex with nubile virgins.
Paul
What
Virgins are too much trouble, Ex-virgins who's previous lovers were
not enthusiastic enough are much simpler to please.
On 1/29/2010 9:17 AM, P N Stenquist wrote:
On Jan 29, 2010, at 1:25 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:
I wonder what is people's impression of Pentax DA 12-24.
To me it seems
From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
As an addendum, pleased is as high as my lens meter goes.
I reserve overly thrilled for sex with nubile virgins.
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Christine Aguila wrote:
From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
As an addendum, pleased is as high as my lens meter goes.
I reserve overly thrilled for sex with nubile virgins.
MARK!
You think I would have missed that one? I'm insulted!
(I have also never understood the fascination
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From: Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: What do you think of DA 12-24?
Christine Aguila wrote:
From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
As an addendum
On Jan 29, 2010, at 10:16 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Christine Aguila wrote:
From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
As an addendum, pleased is as high as my lens meter goes.
I reserve overly thrilled for sex with nubile virgins.
MARK!
You think I would have missed that one? I'm
You know, sometimes I like to start at the end of a thread just to see how far
astray it's gone. this may be our finest work yet.
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On Jan 29, 2010, at 2:24 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
On Jan 29, 2010, at 10:16 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Christine Aguila wrote:
From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
As an addendum, pleased is as high as my lens meter goes.
I reserve overly thrilled for sex with nubile virgins.
paul stenquist wrote:
Virgin was used in a metaphorical sense here. It's a symbol for young, pure,
and beautiful. I don't really want one.
Well, maybe just one.
Damn. Two in a row.
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From: paul stenquist
On Jan 29, 2010, at 2:24 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
On Jan 29, 2010, at 10:16 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Christine Aguila wrote:
From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
As an addendum, pleased is as high as my lens meter
goes. I reserve overly thrilled for sex with
On Jan 29, 2010, at 1:24 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
On Jan 29, 2010, at 10:16 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Christine Aguila wrote:
From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
As an addendum, pleased is as high as my lens meter goes.
I reserve overly thrilled for sex with nubile virgins.
On 2010-01-29 22:55, Stan Halpin wrote:
I thought the ideal was an insatiable experienced virgin.
I'll take 1 and 3 ... oops, I thought I was in a Mexican restaurant. :-)
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From: paul stenquist
On Jan 29, 2010, at 2:24 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
On Jan 29, 2010, at 10:16 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Christine Aguila wrote:
From: P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
As an addendum, pleased is as high as my lens meter
on 12/25/03 2:34 AM, graywolf at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hell, even the junk yards mostly don't support cars more than 7 years old
anymore. There are parts for my '94 S-10 Blazer that you can not get anywhere.
Couldn't get soom trim parts even 4 years ago and had to fabricate something
to
William Robb wrote:
Consumer products are all about not holding their value,
anyone who buys
into them knows it and accepts it.
It's been that way with computers, video cameras, VCR's, American
automobiles and most any other consumer product out there.
But people still go out and buy the
Paul Stenquist wrote:
Well that's good, it works for you. The people who buy my
images want 40 meg files, so the *ist D can;t deliver that.
Of course those of us shooting film are working in digital as
well. All of the images I deliver are digital files and the
workflow is constantly
resolution than a Canon 1Ds. i just have to put up my hand to measure the
finest real detail.
Herb
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From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 7:50 AM
Subject: Re: What do you think?
One reason for the large files
Herb Chong wrote:
the rest of this conversation included the caveat that if you
can meet the resolution requirements.
Herb,
Ah, yes. Perception over possibility.
Malcolm
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From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 1:48 AM
Subject: Re: What do you think?
You've got a multi-dimensional input space; the intensity of illumination
at all frequencies (which we can assume bandwidth-limited
I seem to remember some famous Photoshop type who developed actions,
not plugs, to give a certain dSLR the Velvia look.
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
I believe there are. I'll try to find them in the next few days. I know I
saw one for BW film, and, should it be of any help, there are profiles for
Anyone ever seen a drawing where the car was leaning foward with eliptical
wheels. Very common in the 20's and 30's, also in cartoons. Guess where the
artists got that idea? Yep, from large format photos shot with a focalplane
shutter camera like the old 5x7 speed graphics.
I understand Norman
.
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From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: What do you think?
Sigh. You really can't understand you are wrong, can you?
I think we have a few techno-nerds here who are overly concerned with nit
picking details. If I take a photo with my *ist D, size and crop in PS, and
print it on my Epson printer and the results suit me, I could give a rat's
a** about micro managing the hardware/software I'm using.
Bill
BINGO!
Bill Owens wrote:
I think we have a few techno-nerds here who are overly concerned with nit
picking details. If I take a photo with my *ist D, size and crop in PS, and
print it on my Epson printer and the results suit me, I could give a rat's
a** about micro managing the
I think we have a few techno-nerds here who are overly concerned with nit
picking details. If I take a photo with my *ist D, size and crop in PS, and
print it on my Epson printer and the results suit me, I could give a rat's
a** about micro managing the hardware/software I'm using.
Didn't
It actually started earlier than that ... the film response thing was a response
to something Herb said.
John Francis wrote:
I think we have a few techno-nerds here who are overly concerned with nit
picking details. If I take a photo with my *ist D, size and crop in PS, and
print it on
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From: Shel Belinkoff
Subject: Re: What do you think?
It actually started earlier than that ... the film response thing was a
response
to something Herb said.
And the entire conversation is completely pointless.
If you want an picture that looks like it was shot
On 26 Dec 2003 at 10:56, John Francis wrote:
There is absolutely no way to reproduce this result as a
post-process step, because all you have is the measurement
made by the first sensor, which produced identical results
for the two objects.
Anyone know where I can DL a post process
Of course I know about Hemmings ... the point of the message, of course, was
something else.
I also belong to a national Cadillac club, which is another great source for
parts and information.
Paul Stenquist wrote:
If you need parts for your 64 Cadillac just check out Hemmings Motor
News.
of budget, they can produce anything digitally better than they
could
ever produce on film. movie FX proves it every day.
Herb
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From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2003 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: What do you think?
Umm? I
: What do you think?
Also, they control everything about the shoot so thoroughly that that
big
virgin
tranny needs no manipulation prior to prepress. And therefore there
is no
economic advantage to shooting digitally.
i didn't say they don't. i am saying they don't bother to change their ways
because they are making lots of money not changing.
Herb
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From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2003 6:49 AM
Subject: Re: What do you
didn't say they don't. i am saying they don't bother to change their
ways
because they are making lots of money not changing.
Herb
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From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2003 6:49 AM
Subject: Re: What do you think
Herb said:..
that to me says they don't know how to use their digital camera tools
adequately yet. if they are happy with the resolution of current digital
solutions, you can simulate the rest of film's characteristics
digitally.
I am sure I have missed out on the 'digital' conversations but
Paul wrote:
I would think that the opposite will prove true. Point and shoot will
be fully digital within a couple of years. But some serious
photographers will want to continue working with film because it
provides some other dimensions.
Spot on. In order for digital to totally take
Shel wrote:
OTOH, anything I've ever wanted for my 72 Mercedes
was available, including obscure gaskets and hoses. It's not difficult to get
parts and repair on even older Mercedes ... likewise a fifty yo Leica while
much more recent models of other cameras will find you scrounging the used
. once you are happy with the resolution of your sensor, i don't see
why anyone would want to limit themselves to only what film can do.
Herb...
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From: ALan Abbott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2003 7:30 AM
Subject: RE: What do you
profiles' that mimic
certain films).
Alan
-Original Message-
From: Herb Chong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 25 December 2003 13:31
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: What do you think?
you can profile a film and a digital camera and directly match the
digital camera to the film's profile
Please explain how that can be done. I know there are profiles for certain
types of film (Kodak has a well known one for E6, as does WCI), but tell us how
a digi cam can be profiled for a specific (or even a general) type of film.
Herb Chong wrote:
you can profile a film and a digital camera
there are no such tools and i seriously doubt there will be.
Herb
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From: ALan Abbott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2003 9:45 AM
Subject: RE: What do you think?
Herb,
Thanks for the reply but perhaps I did not put
Please explain how that can be done. I know there are profiles for certain
types of film (Kodak has a well known one for E6, as does WCI), but tell us how
a digi cam can be profiled for a specific (or even a general) type of film.
Technically, of course, it can't. There will always be
indistinguishable results up to the
resolution limits of your image.
Herb.
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From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2003 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: What do you think?
Go to the West Coast Imaging site and download the EktaSpace
-
From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2003 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: What do you think?
Technically, of course, it can't. There will always be metamerism issues.
You can't escape these; the sensor sampled the whole imput spectrum of
light
falling
Well, Herb, we're coming at this from entirely different perspectives ... I
don't want to edit digital stuff through photoshop to give me something similar
to what I get from film. And, frankly, it's hard for me to believe that Grain
Surgery will provide the wide variety of grain patterns and
, 2003 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: What do you think?
Technically, of course, it can't. There will always be metamerism issues.
You can't escape these; the sensor sampled the whole imput spectrum of
light
falling on it, convoluted it with the response curve of the sensor, and
reduced
Well said, Shel. That's pretty much where I'm at. And since I have to
produce 40 meg images for many of my clients, Pentax doesn't make a
camera capable of that. I find it fascinating that while digital
photography is quite a few years old, the world has changed in just the
ten weeks or so
is ridiculous to me because why would i want myself to be limited to only
what film can do.
Herb
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From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2003 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: What do you think?
Well, Herb, we're coming
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From: Shel Belinkoff
Subject: Re: What do you think?
While I don't doubt you wrt to Grain Surgery's abilities, I tend to. And
you're
right, why should anyone want to make a digital image look like a real
photograph. My point is that enough people do
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From: Paul Stenquist
Subject: Re: What do you think?
We've all caught on. But some of us won't spend $1500 on a digital
camera that we'll be able to buy in a year for a third of that. I've
said it before, when I can buy a 10 megapixel digital camera for less
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From: Shel Belinkoff
Subject: Re: What do you think?
So, that works for you. It doesn't work for Paul.
Paul is in a very specialized part of the industry, one which doesn't
represent the reality of probably 95% or more of what is happening in
professional
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From: Herb Chong
Subject: Re: What do you think?
we haven't flip flopped. it's taken this long for the rest of you to
catch
on. i've been as digital as i can get for at least 5 years now.
Not sure I agree with the mediocre comment Paul made.
Mediocre compared
is
in what film is unable to capture.
Herb
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From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2003 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: What do you think?
You're wrong. You've lost too much information in the original capture
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From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(snip)
This is why I am giving colour print film 5 years before it mostly goes
away.
William Robb
Don't a lot of countries have a ten year support rule for newly sold
products? I thought that was the reason the LX is
Hi,
that would not be a very clever argument. It would imply that the
camera makers such as Pentax also had to be film makers. Or that
kitchen equipment makers also had to be food retailers; printer
manufacturers would have to be paper makers. Law-makers would have to
be Fagins. Cup makers would
Not at all, Bob.
The specialist camera makers can shelter under the umbrella of the film and
camera manufacturers. So long as Kodak and Fuji sell film cameras the
~hardware only~ manufacturers can rest assured that film will be available
for the required period.
But on the day that no film
Hi,
no serious business is going to hang large parts of their future
income on that kind of fragile dependency or by sheltering under some
other company's umbrella. It would be impossible to plan for longer
than the very shortest term if they had to keep looking up to see if
Kodak Fuji were
Bob,
No argument from me that film will be easy to find, it will be at the back
of the store or behind the counter in all likelihood, perhaps even by
special order only in many stores.
Did you read the article at
http://apnews.excite.com/article/20031223/D7VK80IO0.html that kicked off
this
Like I said, while Kodak and Fuji sell film ~cameras~, film
has ten years
minimum life expectancy.
regards,
Anthony Farr
But it might not be much of a life. Forcing the supply of film
doesn't mean it will be of the type and quality you want.
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