David Savage offered the following advice:
Try going to View - Current View - Group Messages by Conversation. I
have Outlook Express 6, and by doing this it sorts the messages by
thread.
That worked. Thanks for the tip.
Tom Reese
Actually I can kind of agree with you. I was removing some no longer
used software from my computer and the uninstall program of one of them
must have removed something essential, as it would not boot anymore. So
I tried reloading the OS (damned MickeyShit Software), it refused to
load with
Anyhoo, I have not used Outlook Express in a couple of years but I seem
to remember that you can set it to thread messages.
there isn't any way that I've found so far and I quit looking.
I am sure you can
set it to sort by subject.
that I can do but the new messages get all mixed in with
Tom,
Try going to View - Current View - Group Messages by Conversation. I
have Outlook Express 6, and by doing this it sorts the messages by
thread.
BTW, I only use OE to download the messages for my record. I use the
gmail web mail interface for posting
Dave S
On 9/17/05, Tom Reese [EMAIL
Paul Sorenson wrote:
I thought Outlook Express would sort by subject so you can follow a thread
if you want.
It will sort by subject but it completely ignores dates. Todays mail gets
mixed in with the saved stuff from two years ago.
Tom Reese
Shel Belinkoff schrieb:
The software works fine for me - I get the email, I can read it, it can
thread nicely on my system, Earthlink has good built in spam and virus
protection. Most of the techno stuff you're talking about is over my head.
Have no idea, for example, what a web interface
Tom Reese schrieb:
Computers used to be fun.
Time to get rid of windows, methinks. Or at least outlook express, which
is another word for 'virusses, this way' ;-)
Pancho
Actually the thing that gets me is wh
Cheers,
Cotty
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||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
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Quoting Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Actually the thing that gets me is wh
Couldn't agree more..
Cheers,
Brian
+
Brian Walters
Western Sydney, Australia
On 2005-09-13 12:45, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
LONG URL's: Perhaps those posting messages with long URL's can use Tiny
Url to shorten these addresses Please: http://tinyurl.com/
I prefer long URLs instead of a redirect via tinyurl where I don't know
where I'll end up. However many URLs
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, John Francis wrote:
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 12:45:46PM -0700, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
BOTTOM POSTING: many listers post their replies to the bottom of original
messages, or at the bottom of a series of replies and threads. Often the
post is just a simple me too type post,
What you really need is a gmail account for the pdml...
- It automatically hides quoted text
- It shows you the complete thread so you can easily find the previous
posted url
- It gives you 2.5 Gb of storage so you'll never delete any threads again!
I've hundreds of invites to give away, anyone
Hi Shel,
your E-Mail software is broken:
X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2004.0.129.0 (Windows)
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Some Posting Suggestions
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 13:10:45 -0700
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
There's neither references
On 9/14/05, Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
Shel will correct me if I misread.
Do ya think? LOL
cheers,
frank
--
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Some Posting Suggestions
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 13:10:45 -0700
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
There's neither references nor In-Reply-To, such as
In-Reply-To:
091320051955.20592.43272EA200083B4F507022028887449B9C079A9E020A9B9C029F
@comcast.net
See e.g. http
: EarthLink MailBox 2004.0.129.0 (Windows)
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Some Posting Suggestions
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 13:10:45 -0700
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
There's neither references nor In-Reply-To, such as
In-Reply
On 2005-09-14 05:53, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
I've not a clue as to what you're talking about ...
ok... Let's discuss email headers:
From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
That's you, I guess.
Subject: Re: Some Posting Suggestions
That's the thread you replied to.
Date: Tue, 13 Sep
you mean well to point all this out, but I've no idea what it has
to do with the subject and the thread. My ignorance, probably.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Martin Trautmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Date: 9/14/2005 6:36:08 AM
Subject: Re: Some Posting Suggestions
On 14/9/05, danilo, discombobulated, unleashed:
What you really need is a gmail account for the pdml...
- It automatically hides quoted text
- It shows you the complete thread so you can easily find the previous
posted url
- It gives you 2.5 Gb of storage so you'll never delete any threads again!
On 14/9/05, Martin Trautmann, discombobulated, unleashed:
ok... Let's discuss email headers:
Who is this guy??
Cheers,
Cotty
___/\__
|| (O) | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
_
Just to affirm what danilo said. I've been lurking off and on the PDML
for a good number of years now, and gmail is without a doubt the best
tool I've used for it.
Since I started PDML on gmail a year or so ago, I have not had to
delete anything, and it is extremely easy to read.
in other words:
On 2005-09-14 06:53, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
The software works fine for me - I get the email, I can read it, it can
thread nicely on my system, Earthlink has good built in spam and virus
protection.
You offered suggestions - I offered my opinion.
Most of the techno stuff you're talking about
T M I !
Kenneth Waller
-Original Message-
From: Martin Trautmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sep 14, 2005 9:34 AM
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: Some Posting Suggestions
On 2005-09-14 05:53, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
I've not a clue as to what you're talking about ...
ok... Let's
On 2005-09-14 15:02, Cotty wrote:
On 14/9/05, Martin Trautmann, discombobulated, unleashed:
ok... Let's discuss email headers:
Who is this guy??
to discombobulate
to unleash
... had to look them up in my dictionary. Thanks for improving my English
;-)
Who's me? A lurker who
On 2005-09-14 10:13, Kenneth Waller wrote:
T M I !
SED?
Yepp - that's my problem. Sometimes the list looks like an IRC.
TM GIGO for a MUG
FWIW, I have never had any problem with the format or legibility of your
emails, Shel.
As for the content . . .
None - I do it frequently.
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Martin Trautmann
Do you have any reason against removing fullquotes?
On 14/9/05, Martin Trautmann, discombobulated, unleashed:
ok... Let's discuss email headers:
Who is this guy??
I don't know but his name sounds a little fishy.
Tom Reese
In a message dated 9/13/2005 2:42:52 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I think that and proper attributation are a matter of common sense. In other
words putting it into the FAQ won't help much. But if everyone wants it
there, I will be glad to update it.
graywolf
Techno-geek. Annoying isn't he?
Cotty wrote:
On 14/9/05, Martin Trautmann, discombobulated, unleashed:
ok... Let's discuss email headers:
Who is this guy??
Cheers,
Cotty
___/\__
|| (O) | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
In a message dated 9/14/2005 7:53:14 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Techno-geek. Annoying isn't he?
Cotty wrote:
On 14/9/05, Martin Trautmann, discombobulated, unleashed:
ok... Let's discuss email headers:
Who is this guy??
===
As versus a camera
A little harsh, don't you think?
P. J. Alling wrote:
Techno-geek. Annoying isn't he?
C'mon Peter, Martin means well and he was trying to help me understand a
few things. No more annoying than some of the other techno-geeks here ...
Shel
[Original Message]
From: P. J. Alling
Techno-geek. Annoying isn't he?
Cotty wrote:
On 14/9/05, Martin Trautmann, discombobulated,
Hi all,
sorry Cotty, didn't understand well your email, I sent an invitation
to you too, if you didn't mean this, please forgive me...
for all the others
I *had* one hundred (sorry it was also wrong) to give away, which,
meantime, became 95 or so...
I don't mind to give them all away, (I may
--- Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A little harsh, don't you think?
P. J. Alling wrote:
Techno-geek. Annoying isn't he?
Me too.
Jack
__
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
People who endlessly hector others with details they don't want or need
to know are annoying. Shel is happy with his e-mail client, it does
what he needs. You can top or bottom post, it's up to you. It's a free
Internet, (well we all pay for it but you know what I mean). Those of
us who
Shel, I didn't tell him to stop. Just commented on his style.
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
C'mon Peter, Martin means well and he was trying to help me understand a
few things. No more annoying than some of the other techno-geeks here ...
Shel
[Original Message]
From: P. J. Alling
On 2005-09-14 11:27, P. J. Alling wrote:
People who endlessly hector others with details they don't want or need
to know are annoying. Shel is happy with his e-mail client, it does
what he needs. You can top or bottom post, it's up to you.
Sorry. It's not me who started this thread.
I
I see. Shel lecturing everyone about how to post is okay, but Martin
pointing out how Shel's email client works is annoying. Gotcha.
P. J. Alling wrote:
People who endlessly hector others with details they don't want or need
to know are annoying. Shel is happy with his e-mail client, it does
I like to think that I was suggesting rather than lecturing, but your point
is well taken, and i freely admit that I can be annoying at times. In
fact, so much so that some years ago my then wife bought a license plate
frame for my birthday which said Born to Annoy on it LOL
Shel Bellicose
Hey, I wouldn't mind one of those frames.
I should point out that I didn't find your posting suggestions annoying.
I was just reacting to Peter's apparent double standard.
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
I like to think that I was suggesting rather than lecturing, but your point
is well taken, and i
No Shel just didn't get under my skin.
Doug Brewer wrote:
I see. Shel lecturing everyone about how to post is okay, but Martin
pointing out how Shel's email client works is annoying. Gotcha.
P. J. Alling wrote:
People who endlessly hector others with details they don't want or
need to know
We should change over to cat's pictures - a topic I know far less above.
;-)
Martin
That outa keep Mike Johnson off the list a while more.vbg
Dave
That is okay as I see your name and scroll down. However, often I browse
through the list click, read, delete. If someone bottom posts the middle step
is often skipped if I am in any kind of hurry because I do not scroll unless
the comment catches my interest. If I can not see it in the window
On 9/14/05, Graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That is okay as I see your name and scroll down. However, often I browse
through the list click, read, delete. If someone bottom posts the middle step
is often skipped if I am in any kind of hurry because I do not scroll unless
the comment
On Sep 14, 2005, at 10:18 AM, frank theriault wrote:
Is it worth seeking a consensus here? I used to top-post. Then I
heard a few opinions that bottom-posting was preferable, so I
switched. Now it seems that top posting is preferred.
Top post when appropriate. Bottom post when appropriate.
Well, if we were reading one post your idea would make sense. But we are reading a
lot of posts (sorted by subject and thread in a mail reader). That means that we are
following the thread and have some idea of what is going on. In other words, have
already read the other guys post, scrolling
Well, if we were reading one post your idea would make sense. But we are
reading a lot of posts
(sorted by subject and thread in a mail reader). That means that we are
following the thread and have
some idea of what is going on.
Not everyone reads them that way. My mail program doesn't thread
On 14/9/05, Martin Trautmann, discombobulated, unleashed:
to discombobulate
to unleash
... had to look them up in my dictionary. Thanks for improving my English
;-)
Pleasure.
Who's me? A lurker who lurks since he's overwhelmed by the mass of postings,
where the helpful info is hidden
On 14/9/05, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:
Techno-geek. Annoying isn't he?
Now Peter, don't judge a book by it's cover. I mean, I thought you were
annoying, once upon a time.
Cheers,
Cotty
___/\__
|| (O) | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 12:24:42 US/Eastern, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We should change over to cat's pictures - a topic I know far less above.
;-)
Martin
That outa keep Mike Johnson off the list a while more.vbg
Dave
Good call.
On 14/9/05, danilo, discombobulated, unleashed:
sorry Cotty, didn't understand well your email, I sent an invitation
to you too, if you didn't mean this, please forgive me...
No apology need Danilo. It was my pathetic attempt at humour, which
failed miserably in this instance.
for all the
On 14/9/05, Shel Belinkoff, discombobulated, unleashed:
I like to think that I was suggesting rather than lecturing, but your point
is well taken, and i freely admit that I can be annoying at times. In
fact, so much so that some years ago my then wife bought a license plate
frame for my birthday
On 14/9/05, Graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed:
Come on guys it is not 1972 anymore.
Oh js. You sure GW? This is bad news man!!! I was 12 in 1972 and I'm
still only 12.
Cheers,
Cotty
___/\__
|| (O) | People, Places, Pastiche
||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
But I am annoying...
Cotty wrote:
On 14/9/05, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:
Techno-geek. Annoying isn't he?
Now Peter, don't judge a book by it's cover. I mean, I thought you were
annoying, once upon a time.
Cheers,
Cotty
___/\__
|| (O) | People, Places,
Yeah, you're the only kid in your fifth grade class to be excused for jury
duty LOL
Shel
Am I paranoid or perceptive?
[Original Message]
From: Cotty
On 14/9/05, Graywolf, discombobulated, unleashed:
Come on guys it is not 1972 anymore.
Oh js. You sure GW? This is bad news man!!!
Yes, I know. I received the box of chocolates you sent. And thanks for
the lovely card ;-))
Shel
[Original Message]
From: Cotty
Shel, I love you man!
On Sep 14, 2005, at 11:19 AM, Cotty wrote:
On that note may I take this opportunity to point out that I have
a .Mac
email account. I won't bore you all with the details, but in short,
I get
an email account (+ 2 others for the rest of the clan) that I can
access
either with my POP email
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 02:32:51PM -0400, Tom Reese wrote:
Well, if we were reading one post your idea would make sense. But we are
reading a lot of posts
(sorted by subject and thread in a mail reader). That means that we are
following the thread and have
some idea of what is going on.
On 14/9/05, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:
either with my POP email application or online anywhere in the
world, and
Well, IMAP anyway.
Whatever! I meant it's my email app and I'm a father Graywolf Grin
Cheers,
Cotty
___/\__
|| (O) | People, Places, Pastiche
Gmail is perfect for a list like this. Everything is sorted by message
thread, and once a month I download the messages to my machine for my
records.
Are you really sure you can't be tempted Cotty g
Dave
On 9/14/05, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 14/9/05, danilo, discombobulated, unleashed:
What obsolete primitive mail read are you using?
grin
graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---
Tom Reese wrote:
Not everyone reads them that way. My mail program doesn't thread anything. I
get them sorted by date and I need
frank theriault wrote:
On 9/14/05, Graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bottom posting is something that is left over from the old dial up and download
uucp days. Come on guys it is not 1972 anymore.
I don't have particularly strong thoughts on the matter, but
bottom-posting seems
Tom Reese wrote:
Well, if we were reading one post your idea would make sense. But we are
reading a lot of posts
(sorted by subject and thread in a mail reader). That means that we are
following the thread and have
some idea of what is going on.
Not everyone reads
I'm using Outlook Express on a Windows 98 machine that I refuse to upgrade.
No drivers, no software, no hardware, no nothing. I can't even be bothered
plugging the speakers back into my soundcard.
I've been fooling with computers since the early 80's and I'm sick of them.
Sick of hardware that
I'm using Outlook Express on a Windows 98 machine that I refuse to upgrade.
No drivers, no software, no hardware, no nothing. I can't even be bothered
plugging the speakers back into my soundcard.
I've been fooling with computers since the early 80's and I'm sick of them.
Sick of hardware that
Sorry about the double posting. Like I said, I hate these %$ing things.
Tom Reese
I thought Outlook Express would sort by subject so you can follow a
thread if you want.
-P
Tom Reese wrote:
I'm using Outlook Express on a Windows 98 machine that I refuse to upgrade.
No drivers, no software, no hardware, no nothing. I can't even be bothered
plugging the speakers back
On Sep 14, 2005, at 8:15 PM, Tom Reese wrote:
... They're aggravating, annoying, hateful pieces of junk.
Tell us how you really feel, Tom. ;-)
Godfrey
LONG URL's: Perhaps those posting messages with long URL's can use Tiny
Url to shorten these addresses Please: http://tinyurl.com/
BOTTOM POSTING: many listers post their replies to the bottom of original
messages, or at the bottom of a series of replies and threads. Often the
post is
Good suggestions, Shel. I'd like to add one more: Please don't delete the url
that references a PAW or PESO when commenting on the pic. Many times I've
wanted to go back for a second look but couldn't find the photo.
Paul
LONG URL's: Perhaps those posting messages with long URL's can use
Yes, I saw your comment about that earlier (yesterday?) and forgot to add
that to the list. Since there are times when the original post neither
makes it to the list nor into the archives, some people may only have a
chance to see the URL in one of the replies to the original message. Is
this
On Sep 13, 2005, at 12:45 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
LONG URL's: Perhaps those posting messages with long URL's can
use Tiny
Url to shorten these addresses Please: http://tinyurl.com/
(I find it best to try to post both if it's a long and complex URL.
And yes, when participating in
Agreed, really ... it's a matter of being appropriate rather than arbitrary
or flying on auto pilot. For example, if the salient info that you're
quoting is just a sentence or two, replying with bottom posting may be the
better choice. If the quoted message or text is long, and especially if
On Sep 13, 2005, at 1:24 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
... Better? ;-))
Uh huh. :-)
Godfrey
- Original Message -
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sep 13, 2005, at 1:24 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
... Better? ;-))
Uh huh. :-)
me too!
Christian :-)
I think that and proper attributation are a matter of common sense. In other
words putting it into the FAQ won't help much. But if everyone wants it there,
I will be glad to update it.
graywolf
http://www.graywolfphoto.com
Idiot Proof == Expert Proof
---
Shel
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 12:45:46PM -0700, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
LONG URL's: Perhaps those posting messages with long URL's can use Tiny
Url to shorten these addresses Please: http://tinyurl.com/
Only if you also include the original URL.
BOTTOM POSTING: many listers post their
URL inclusion, if convenient, would be appreciated.
When not found, I blame myself for not having read a
post in the series earlier. I often use the archives
to access a URL.
Further, I've never looked at the form of any posting
and felt it not kind or considerate.
Jack
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sep 13, 2005, at 1:24 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
... Better? ;-))
Uh huh. :-)
me too!
Traditionally, it's supposed to be:
AOL
Me too!
/AOL
--
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com
Replying in general to long URLs...
You can include a long URL as long as you surround it with these
long url in here
Most popular mail programs will correctly interrpret anything between
the 's as a single URL, even if it spans more than one line.
See you later, gs
I agree - I always include both.
Maris
John Francis wrote:
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 12:45:46PM -0700, Shel Belinkoff wrote:
LONG URL's: Perhaps those posting messages with long URL's can use
Tiny Url to shorten these addresses Please: http://tinyurl.com/
Only if you also include the
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