Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-25 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 07:17:21PM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote: > On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Bob W wrote: > > > > If you can't find a seagull, you can always twang a cormorant. > > That should be the PDML official oath. As in, > > "Well twang a cormorant! I lost my lens hood again." > > It

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-25 Thread Bruce Walker
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Bob W wrote: > > If you can't find a seagull, you can always twang a cormorant. That should be the PDML official oath. As in, "Well twang a cormorant! I lost my lens hood again." It should also be Mark!'ed. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-25 Thread Larry Colen
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 05:16:20PM -0400, John wrote: > On 9/25/2013 11:18 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > >On 24/9/13, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: > > > >>I heard a rumour that there's going to be an even better new rumour > >>coming out about the rumor of a new camera soon. > > > >That

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-25 Thread John
On 9/25/2013 3:44 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 25/9/13, Walt, discombobulated, unleashed: And, yes -- I agree about the pick guard. I guess I view instruments the way I do my cameras. I try not to obsess over protecting them from little nicks and dings. They're inevitable if you actually use th

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-25 Thread John
On 9/25/2013 11:18 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 24/9/13, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: I heard a rumour that there's going to be an even better new rumour coming out about the rumor of a new camera soon. That rumour is purely rumour. ... a sigh is just a sigh. -- PDML Pentax-D

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-25 Thread John
On 9/25/2013 2:14 PM, Bob W wrote: On 25 Sep 2013, at 19:06, Walt wrote: Sorry. I can be a little a-caustic at times. In any event, this is what I'm contemplating as my next guitar: http://www.musicradar.com/us/reviews/guitars/lag-tramontane-t66a-363835 It seems to get rave reviews in the b

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-25 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 25/9/13, Walt, discombobulated, unleashed: >And, yes -- I agree about the pick guard. I guess I view instruments the >way I do my cameras. I try not to obsess over protecting them from >little nicks and dings. They're inevitable if you actually use them. My >old Jasmine acoustic (Takamine's

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-25 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013, Steve Cottrell wrote: > On 25/9/13, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed: >> >>I recently took my 12 string out of the closet and started trying to >>play it again. My fingers are still bloody. > > h sympathy. > > The PDML band is slowly coming to life "W

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-25 Thread Walt
On 9/25/2013 1:30 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 25/9/13, Walt, discombobulated, unleashed: In any event, this is what I'm contemplating as my next guitar: http://www.musicradar.com/us/reviews/guitars/lag-tramontane-t66a-363835 It seems to get rave reviews in the bang-for-buck category. I'll ch

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-25 Thread kwaller
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Walt" Subject: Re: You didn't hear it from me... Sorry. I can be a little a-caustic at times. .. Yes but you're not high strung On 9/25/2013 12:37 PM, Darren Add

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-25 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 25/9/13, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed: >I recently took my 12 string out of the closet and started trying to >play it again. My fingers are still bloody. h sympathy. The PDML band is slowly coming to life -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, ||

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-25 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 25/9/13, Walt, discombobulated, unleashed: >In any event, this is what I'm contemplating as my next guitar: > >http://www.musicradar.com/us/reviews/guitars/lag-tramontane-t66a-363835 > >It seems to get rave reviews in the bang-for-buck category. I'll check >to see if they have any Seagull's in

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-25 Thread Walt
On 9/25/2013 1:14 PM, Bob W wrote: On 25 Sep 2013, at 19:06, Walt wrote: Sorry. I can be a little a-caustic at times. In any event, this is what I'm contemplating as my next guitar: http://www.musicradar.com/us/reviews/guitars/lag-tramontane-t66a-363835 It seems to get rave reviews in the ba

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-25 Thread Bob W
On 25 Sep 2013, at 19:06, Walt wrote: > > Sorry. I can be a little a-caustic at times. > > In any event, this is what I'm contemplating as my next guitar: > > http://www.musicradar.com/us/reviews/guitars/lag-tramontane-t66a-363835 > > It seems to get rave reviews in the bang-for-buck category.

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
uys are nuts. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 9/25/2013 11:49 AM, Darren Addy wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Pick, pick, pick... >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:47 AM, wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Kenneth Waller >

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-25 Thread Walt
waller - Original Message - From: "Steve Cottrell" Subject: Re: You didn't hear it from me... On 25/9/13, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: That sounds like Coty.always looking for a way to make a little lute. Yeah but I do fret a lot Here we go again, we&#x

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-25 Thread Darren Addy
t;> You guys are nuts. >> >> >> On 9/25/2013 11:49 AM, Darren Addy wrote: >>> >>> Pick, pick, pick... >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:47 AM, wrote: >>>> >>>> Kenneth Waller >>>> http://www.pentaxphotogal

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-25 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:47 AM, wrote: >>> >>> Kenneth Waller >>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller >>> >>> ----- Original Message - From: "Steve Cottrell" >>> >>> Subject: Re: You didn't hear it from me... >

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-25 Thread Walt
You guys are nuts. On 9/25/2013 11:49 AM, Darren Addy wrote: Pick, pick, pick... On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:47 AM, wrote: Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Steve Cottrell" Subject: Re: You didn't hear it from

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-25 Thread Darren Addy
Pick, pick, pick... On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:47 AM, wrote: > > Kenneth Waller > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller > > - Original Message - From: "Steve Cottrell" > > Subject: Re: You didn't hear it from me... > > >> On

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-25 Thread kwaller
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Steve Cottrell" Subject: Re: You didn't hear it from me... On 25/9/13, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: That sounds like Coty.always looking for a way to make a litt

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-25 Thread Bob W
On 25 Sep 2013, at 16:18, "Steve Cottrell" wrote: > > On 24/9/13, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> I heard a rumour that there's going to be an even better new rumour >> coming out about the rumor of a new camera soon. > > That rumour is purely rumour. > According to my unimpeac

Re:Re: You didn't hear it from me

2013-09-25 Thread Don Guthrie
Great just before my birthday. Unfortunately I already bought a birthday present last week and that was for my birthday in 2016. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 9 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 16:35:28 -0500 From: Darren Addy To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: You didn't hear it

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-25 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 25/9/13, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: >That sounds like Coty.always looking for a way to make a little lute. Yeah but I do fret a lot -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDM

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-25 Thread Larry Colen
That sounds like Coty.always looking for a way to make a little lute. Steve Cottrell wrote: >On 24/9/13, John, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>I've been seeing a lot of fairly nice guitars at astonishingly low >>prices coming out of China recently, although quality assurance seems >to >>be a bit

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-25 Thread Darren Addy
Seagull is the Pentax of Guitars (bang-for-the-buck is Canadian, not Chinese). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXGV31hOYhs On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:17 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > On 24/9/13, John, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>I've been seeing a lot of fairly nice guitars at astonishingly lo

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-25 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 24/9/13, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed: >I heard a rumour that there's going to be an even better new rumour >coming out about the rumor of a new camera soon. That rumour is purely rumour. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-25 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 24/9/13, John, discombobulated, unleashed: >I've been seeing a lot of fairly nice guitars at astonishingly low >prices coming out of China recently, although quality assurance seems to >be a bit lacking (one will be great and the next one from the same >production run will suck). Tell me about

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-24 Thread Walt
a Ricoh branded camera, with "Pentax" as the model, much the same way as Canon has "EOS". If they don't do this in time for the K3, it will be on all future models though. -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Stan Halpin Sent

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-24 Thread Walt
On 9/24/2013 9:44 PM, John wrote: On 9/24/2013 9:49 PM, Walt wrote: On 9/24/2013 10:41 AM, John wrote: On 9/23/2013 10:03 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 07:03:08PM -0600, steve harley wrote: on 2013-09-23 8:29 John wrote Word of warning, once guitars get their hooks into you

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-24 Thread Mark Roberts
Darren Addy wrote: >New rumor that the K-3 will be offically announced on Oct. 8th. I heard a rumour that there's going to be an even better new rumour coming out about the rumor of a new camera soon. -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss M

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-24 Thread John
On 9/24/2013 9:49 PM, Walt wrote: On 9/24/2013 10:41 AM, John wrote: On 9/23/2013 10:03 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 07:03:08PM -0600, steve harley wrote: on 2013-09-23 8:29 John wrote Word of warning, once guitars get their hooks into you they're more expensive than cameras

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-24 Thread John
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Stan Halpin Sent: Saturday, 21 September 2013 7:16 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: You didn't hear it from me... That is a combination I have thought about Paul. And it would require much less up-front investment than a ne

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-24 Thread Larry Colen
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 08:49:24PM -0500, Walt wrote: > On 9/24/2013 10:41 AM, John wrote: > >On 9/23/2013 10:03 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > >>On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 07:03:08PM -0600, steve harley wrote: > >>>on 2013-09-23 8:29 John wrote > Word of warning, once guitars get their hooks into you t

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-24 Thread Walt
On 9/24/2013 10:41 AM, John wrote: On 9/23/2013 10:03 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 07:03:08PM -0600, steve harley wrote: on 2013-09-23 8:29 John wrote Word of warning, once guitars get their hooks into you they're more expensive than cameras (but not as much as good lenses to

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-24 Thread Walt
t;EOS". If they don't do this in time for the K3, it will be on all future models though. -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Stan Halpin Sent: Saturday, 21 September 2013 7:16 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: You didn't hear

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Hmm. I know I think differently. My answer is usually "One less than I got." G On Sep 24, 2013, at 6:16 PM, John wrote: > Actually, the same answer applies whether the question is "How many > lenses do you need? or "How many guitars do you need?" > > A: One more. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-24 Thread John
Actually, the same answer applies whether the question is "How many lenses do you need? or "How many guitars do you need?" A: One more. On 9/24/2013 3:00 PM, Chris Mitchell wrote: It sounds a bit like the book dealing hobby (sorry, business) that Christine A's Darrel runs. An old guitar mate o

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-24 Thread Darren Addy
New rumor that the K-3 will be offically announced on Oct. 8th. On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 08:00:37PM +0100, Chris Mitchell wrote: >> It sounds a bit like the book dealing hobby (sorry, business) that >> Christine A's Darrel runs. >> >> An old gu

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-24 Thread Larry Colen
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 08:00:37PM +0100, Chris Mitchell wrote: > It sounds a bit like the book dealing hobby (sorry, business) that > Christine A's Darrel runs. > > An old guitar mate of mine contends that if you know how many guitars > you've got, you haven't got enough. The same adage applies t

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-24 Thread Chris Mitchell
It sounds a bit like the book dealing hobby (sorry, business) that Christine A's Darrel runs. An old guitar mate of mine contends that if you know how many guitars you've got, you haven't got enough. The same adage applies to lenses. Chris On 24 September 2013 16:41, John wrote: > On 9/23/2013

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-24 Thread Larry Colen
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 11:50:20AM -0600, steve harley wrote: > on 2013-09-24 7:20 Tom C wrote > > i wasn't accusing you of interpreting the resolution numbers > recklessly, i was accusing you of missing the point ;?> Paging Mr. Roberts to the white courtesy phone. -- Larry Colen

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-24 Thread steve harley
on 2013-09-24 7:20 Tom C wrote From: steve harley on 2013-09-22 22:23 Tom C wrote Here's where I coming from on this. To say one's images wouldn't or couldn't benefit from increased resolution is like saying they couldn't benefit by using a finer grained film (in the day) or a higher quality l

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-24 Thread John
On 9/23/2013 10:03 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 07:03:08PM -0600, steve harley wrote: on 2013-09-23 8:29 John wrote Word of warning, once guitars get their hooks into you they're more expensive than cameras (but not as much as good lenses to go on those cameras). i know a fe

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-24 Thread Tom C
> From: steve harley > > on 2013-09-22 22:23 Tom C wrote >> Here's where I coming from on this. To say one's images wouldn't or >> couldn't benefit from increased resolution is like saying they >> couldn't benefit by using a finer grained film (in the day) or a >> higher quality lens. > > to me th

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-23 Thread Larry Colen
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 07:03:08PM -0600, steve harley wrote: > on 2013-09-23 8:29 John wrote > >Word of warning, once guitars get their hooks into you they're more > >expensive than cameras (but not as much as good lenses to go on those > >cameras). > > i know a fellow who is afflicted with GBA a

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-23 Thread steve harley
on 2013-09-22 22:23 Tom C wrote Here's where I coming from on this. To say one's images wouldn't or couldn't benefit from increased resolution is like saying they couldn't benefit by using a finer grained film (in the day) or a higher quality lens. to me the point is not that there's no increas

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-23 Thread steve harley
on 2013-09-23 8:29 John wrote Word of warning, once guitars get their hooks into you they're more expensive than cameras (but not as much as good lenses to go on those cameras). i know a fellow who is afflicted with GBA and has some number of guitars (maybe 8?) most of which probably cost more

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-23 Thread John
No, I remember the gallery you posted from your factory visit at Marshall. That was recently. Sometime just this past summer I think? I remember it because I took the tour at Gibson Memphis on my way west last January & they don't allow any photographs. Your gallery made me jealous. Cotty posted

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-23 Thread Chris Mitchell
> > I thought you bought a Telecaster? > You may be thinking of me. Not new though; I bought it in 1976, Here it is with the Marshal '62 Bluesbreaker amp I recently won in a charity raffle: http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/MarshallAmp/slides/_IMG4720.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.ne

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-23 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 23/9/13, John, discombobulated, unleashed: >I thought you bought a Telecaster? nooo. I had a Strat for while but I just wasn't having fun with it. I have a love/hate relationship with guitars. I had a really nice mando a few years ago but had to sell it as was desperate for cash. Things

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Not worth debating as it is completely beside the point of my statements about quality photos. Of course there are times when you need more pixels, just like in film days there were certainly times when 35mm film was inadequate. If your subject and print requirements demand it, stop wasting ti

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-23 Thread Bruce Walker
In fact I've been researching a medium format path. Deep dynamic range and the medium format look both intrigue me. On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > Not worth debating as it is completely beside the point of my statements > about quality photos. > > Of course there are

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-23 Thread Boris Liberman
Exactly, Godfrey... Not pushing here, but the downgrade fro 16mp to 12mp was a very welcome step in my life... On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > On Sep 22, 2013, at 10:56 AM, steve harley wrote: > >>> 33% more resolution and no AA filter? That's a big step up from the >>

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-23 Thread Boris Liberman
With gulving doors (spelling), such a beast could be easily airborn... On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher wrote: > Zos Xavius wrote: > >> There is a rumor the sensor can move around and the camera can combine >> the resulting shots into a higher MP image as well. > > Like fitti

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-23 Thread Boris Liberman
Aren't you forgetting a square root somewhere along the way?Isn't it like sqrt(24/16) which is approx 1.225. Now, K-5iis hasn't got the AA filter either so... Megapixels are evil, you know... Just like in that old song that ends with the following line "Don't read fashion magazines, it will make y

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-23 Thread Bruce Walker
No, I mean proportion as in "a relationship between things or parts of things with respect to comparative magnitude". Magnitude by itself is just size. Proportion says, I have a large space so a large image superimposed here will look better then a small one. On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Godf

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-23 Thread John
On 9/22/2013 1:27 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: There is a rumor the sensor can move around and the camera can combine the resulting shots into a higher MP image as well. How this works with APS-C designed lenses with a tight circle I have no idea, but I guess we shall see if this rumor is correct. Wo

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-23 Thread John
On 9/23/2013 6:09 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 23/9/13, Chris Mitchell, discombobulated, unleashed: I've got a beaten up old Yamaha so I'll bring that along too. Bloody bikers get everywhere Another of them amazing co-inky-denses ... Simon & Garfunkle's "Baby Driver" is playing at the mome

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-23 Thread John
turday, 21 September 2013 7:16 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: You didn't hear it from me... That is a combination I have thought about Paul. And it would require much less up-front investment than a new camera body or two . . . stan On Sep 20, 2013, at 4:12 PM, Paul Sorenson wro

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-23 Thread John
On 9/22/2013 2:13 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 22/9/13, Walt, discombobulated, unleashed: I picked up a beat-up old Yamaha acoustic from a friend about a week ago after I got hooked on playing another friend's Martin while house/dog sitting. It's truly a beater, but it sounds good after a new

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-23 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I think you mean magnitude, not proportion. I agree: Answering the "what looks good over the couch?" (or in your case fireplace) generally requires more size. Which is why I have a 16x35 inch canvas wrap over the sofa in the living room. Looks lovely ... it's a crop on a 12 Mpixel frame from the

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-23 Thread Bruce Walker
Quality aside, proportion is important to your enjoyment of an image. As wonderful as your 4.25x3.5" image may be, it's going to look out of place and hard to view mounted above my fireplace. But my 36x24" landscape is going to look just fine there (unless it's too soft or pixellated due to having

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-23 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 23/9/13, Chris Mitchell, discombobulated, unleashed: >I've got a beaten up old Yamaha so I'll bring that along too. Bloody bikers get everywhere -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-22 Thread Chris Mitchell
On 22 September 2013 19:13, Steve Cottrell wrote: > On 22/9/13, Walt, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>I picked up a beat-up old Yamaha acoustic from a friend about a week ago >>after I got hooked on playing another friend's Martin while house/dog >>sitting. >> >>It's truly a beater, but it sounds

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-22 Thread Zos Xavius
You are correct, and with diffraction I think that 24-30mp is approaching the limits of what aps-c can resolve. I know the theoretical ceiling is much higher, but realistically we are reaching the limits of current lenses. Look at the D800 for instance. So 18% more resolution. I welcome that. Nearl

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-22 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I never said that more resolution was a bad thing. I said it was no longer the limiting factor in the quality of a photograph. What is the quality of a photograph? Simple: a quality photograph captures your mind and holds you. It expresses something poignant, beautiful, interesting, etc. There

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-22 Thread P.J. Alling
Linear resolution is what counts with a 20mp sensor the linear resolution is increases by only 10%, with a 24mp sensor linear resolution is increased by 18%. To get a 33% increase in linear resolution you'll need a sensor of a bit more than 28mp. The "pixels" are getting pretty small at that po

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-22 Thread P.J. Alling
Ricewhine is as good a prognosticator as your average psychic, which is to say not very. His last set of predictions included a FF 24mp DSLR and an Updated 645D, to be announced at the last Photokina I was going to keep close track because Ricewhine just annoys me but I didn't bother because

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-22 Thread Tom C
> From: Bruce Walker > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: You didn't hear it from me... > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Paul, don't you ever print? > > I can often easily see the difference between my K100D

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-22 Thread Bruce Walker
Paul, don't you ever print? I can often easily see the difference between my K100D 6MP shots and my K20D 15MP shots when printed at 10x15 inches, the smallest I ever go. Especially in auto detail type subjects where the stairsteps on diagonals are visible without a magnifying glass. The differenc

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-22 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 22/9/13, Walt Gilbert, discombobulated, unleashed: >If I ever make it to GFM and you're there, >I'll have to take you up on that offer. Them thars fightin words. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- ___

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-22 Thread Paul Stenquist
I agree . Some of my best prints were made from istD images. Hard to see a difference between those 6 megapixel pics and today's 16 megapixel k5 photos. But I will buy the new camera so I can retire my backup, a noisy k7. Paul via phone > On Sep 22, 2013, at 6:23 PM, Mark C wrote: > > Resolut

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-22 Thread Mark C
Resolution is important for images the need high resolution. IMO, most images don't. Depends on the subject matter and the intent of the photo. Again, my opinion, but most images will benefit first from lack of noise and sharp edges (acutance) and than from increased resolution. But people have

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-22 Thread Mark C
On 9/21/2013 6:10 PM, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting "P.J. Alling" : Ricoh abandoned the SLR market sometime in the 90's. I don't remember when, exactly. I don't remember any big announcement, such as when Yashica stopped making cameras, Ricoh just sort of stopped, making SLRs. Actually -

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-22 Thread Tom C
> From: Godfrey DiGiorgi > IMO, we passed the point a long, long time ago (around 5-10 Mpixel > resolution) where, assuming a quality sensor, it was anything like a limiting > factor in the quality of a > photograph. > > I am still perfectly happy and confident shooting with my lovely old 2003

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-22 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 22, 2013, at 10:56 AM, steve harley wrote: >> 33% more resolution and no AA filter? That's a big step up from the >> k-5 on paper. We shall have to see what noise and DR looks like. > > resolution doesn't scale linearly with the number of pixels; with perfect > lenses and sensors, it sca

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-22 Thread Larry Colen
Real world factors? You mean like most photographers don't have the skill to be limited by the performance of a Holga? steve harley wrote: >on 2013-09-22 11:25 Zos Xavius wrote >> 33% more resolution and no AA filter? That's a big step up from the >> k-5 on paper. We shall have to see what noise

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-22 Thread Walt Gilbert
On 9/22/2013 1:13 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 22/9/13, Walt, discombobulated, unleashed: I picked up a beat-up old Yamaha acoustic from a friend about a week ago after I got hooked on playing another friend's Martin while house/dog sitting. It's truly a beater, but it sounds good after a new

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-22 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 22/9/13, Walt, discombobulated, unleashed: >I picked up a beat-up old Yamaha acoustic from a friend about a week ago >after I got hooked on playing another friend's Martin while house/dog >sitting. > >It's truly a beater, but it sounds good after a new set of strings and >just a touch of wor

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-22 Thread steve harley
on 2013-09-22 11:25 Zos Xavius wrote 33% more resolution and no AA filter? That's a big step up from the k-5 on paper. We shall have to see what noise and DR looks like. resolution doesn't scale linearly with the number of pixels; with perfect lenses and sensors, it scales with the square root

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-22 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Zos Xavius wrote: > There is a rumor the sensor can move around and the camera can combine > the resulting shots into a higher MP image as well. Like fitting a 570hp AMG Mercedes with an afterburner. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.bl

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-22 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: > 33% more resolution and no AA filter? That's a big step up from the > k-5 on paper. We shall have to see what noise and DR looks like. Bigger is not always better in my book. My lowly 2.74mp D1 and D1h produce a nicer, cleaner, sharper photo th

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-22 Thread Zos Xavius
There is a rumor the sensor can move around and the camera can combine the resulting shots into a higher MP image as well. How this works with APS-C designed lenses with a tight circle I have no idea, but I guess we shall see if this rumor is correct. On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Zos Xavius w

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-22 Thread Zos Xavius
33% more resolution and no AA filter? That's a big step up from the k-5 on paper. We shall have to see what noise and DR looks like. On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 1:22 PM, David J Brooks wrote: > On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: >> http://ricehigh.blogspot.com/2013/09/latest-k-3-tec

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-22 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: > http://ricehigh.blogspot.com/2013/09/latest-k-3-technical-details-from-my.html > > It sounds like an announcement is right around the corner. Photorumors > source says 20mp. Rice High's source says 24mp. I'm gonna take a wild > shot and bet on

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-22 Thread Zos Xavius
http://ricehigh.blogspot.com/2013/09/latest-k-3-technical-details-from-my.html It sounds like an announcement is right around the corner. Photorumors source says 20mp. Rice High's source says 24mp. I'm gonna take a wild shot and bet on 24mp as 20mp is not competitive with the D7100. On Sun, Sep 2

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-22 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sep 21, 2013, at 3:10 PM, Brian Walters wrote: > Quoting "P.J. Alling" : > >> Ricoh used to make a line of second string K mount SLRs, prior to that they >> made a line of second string m42 mount SLRs, and apparently they marketed a >> Nikon mount SLR, made by Mamiym. They put some pretty

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-22 Thread Walt
all future models though. -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Stan Halpin Sent: Saturday, 21 September 2013 7:16 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: You didn't hear it from me... That is a combination I have thought about Paul. And it would

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-21 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting "P.J. Alling" : Ricoh used to make a line of second string K mount SLRs, prior to that they made a line of second string m42 mount SLRs, and apparently they marketed a Nikon mount SLR, made by Mamiym. They put some pretty nice technology into them, often the K mount bodies seemed

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-21 Thread Mark Roberts
P.J. Alling wrote: >I'm not saying the sky is falling. I'm just being realistic. Quote of the year! -- Mark Roberts - Photography & Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML,

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-21 Thread P.J. Alling
I'm not saying the sky is falling. I'm just being realistic. Ricoh doesn't seem to be any better at marketing than Pentax was. More importantly they don;t actually seem to have any allegiance to high end Cameras as a product. For Pentax cameras and lenses were the heart and soul of the comp

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-21 Thread P.J. Alling
Ricoh used to make a line of second string K mount SLRs, prior to that they made a line of second string m42 mount SLRs, and apparently they marketed a Nikon mount SLR, made by Mamiym. They put some pretty nice technology into them, often the K mount bodies seemed to have somewhat better tech

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-21 Thread Bob W
There are more dead people than living people. B > On 21 Sep 2013, at 14:38, David J Brooks wrote: > > There are more discontinued items than continued items. > > Dave > >> On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Attila Boros wrote: >>> On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 4:15 PM, John wrote: >>> According to

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-21 Thread steve harley
on 2013-09-21 7:15 John wrote According to Ricoh's web site they make cameras along with copiers, [...] i have a search on local craigslist for Ricoh (mainly because people selling old bodies sometimes include good Pentax lenses without mentioning the brand), and the majority of what it picks

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-21 Thread Bob W
On 21 Sep 2013, at 13:39, Attila Boros wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Stan Halpin > wrote: > >> Does Ricoh make cameras other than those branded Pentax? That is a half >> serious question; I know from discussion here that there is some sort of >> Ricoh >> camera division that has

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-21 Thread Darren Addy
I like how on the http://www.us.ricoh-imaging.com/ site, the front page images feature at least one discontinued camera and they are promoting lens rebates that ended three weeks ago. On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 8:38 AM, David J Brooks wrote: > There are more discontinued items than continued items.

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-21 Thread David J Brooks
There are more discontinued items than continued items. Dave On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Attila Boros wrote: > On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 4:15 PM, John wrote: >> According to Ricoh's web site they make cameras along with copiers, >> software, and industrial security equipment. Actually, the o

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-21 Thread Attila Boros
On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 4:15 PM, John wrote: > According to Ricoh's web site they make cameras along with copiers, > software, and industrial security equipment. Actually, the one thing > missing from Ricoh's web site is any mention of Pentax. > > http://www.ricoh.com/products/ You need to look _

Re: You didn't hear it from me...

2013-09-21 Thread John
On 9/21/2013 7:40 AM, Stan Halpin wrote: On Sep 21, 2013, at 2:42 AM, P.J. Alling wrote: ... Pentax no longer exists. There isn't even a Pentax division of Ricoh anymore. All we can hope is that Ricoh, designs builds and markets K mount cameras a little smarter than Pentax and then Hoya did,

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