Thank you for the explanation.
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> So movie sound, even if it is flac, 2 channel, is heavier to process
> than audio due to larger buffers (i e would get stuck in buffering)?
No - just that the audio data will take a different path than the video
(buffered by Windows, put into packets sent by TCP, received by
Thank you for your reply Mnyb. Thankfully, you are omniposting in all
subforums. So movie sound, even if it is flac, 2 channel, is heavier to
process than audio due to larger buffers (i e would get stuck in
buffering)?
forget movies the player buffers are quite substantial where talking
15-30 seconds , it's a music player it makes sense to buffer in the
player .
Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x
Very low activity here. I have a few questions.
1. Is this plugin still active?
Let's see if I understood how it functions, and whether my planned setup
would work. I want to use this for movies because my integrated
amplifier only has coax SPDIF in. A Squeezebox Receiver is connected to
the
How stupid of me, I forgot the play wavin on the http player.
I thought the link to http://myLMS:9000/stream.mp3 would grab the stream
anyway.
Thx for bothering.
ASUS P6-P5G41E W7 x64 | LMS 7.9 - 1425585294 | 6 SB Radios | 2 SB
Receivers | Samsung S3 | Squeeze Player 1.3.8 Squeeze Commander
I struggle getting stream.mp3 to work, cause I'd like to stream via
http.
My LMS is not running as a service. Transcoding config maintained.
When I open http:myLMS:9000/stream.mp3 while using wavin:0 there is no
sound, but player is showing progress.
Advice appreciated - Cheers wgk
ASUS
doubleugk wrote:
I struggle getting stream.mp3 to work, cause I'd like to stream via
http.
My LMS is not running as a service. Transcoding config maintained.
When I open http://myLMS:9000/stream.mp3 while using wavin:0 there is no
sound, but player is showing progress.
Advice appreciated
bpa wrote:
What version of Windows ?
Did you check show disabled devices (right click on microphone or any
device showing) on the Recording tab of the Sound control panel ?
Yes, I checked show disabled devices.
I'm running Windows 7 Home Premium on a Sony Vaio VPCEB25FX laptop.
ad180 wrote:
Yes, I checked show disabled devices.
I'm running Windows 7 Home Premium on a Sony Vaio VPCEB25FX laptop.
It looks like Sony as a matter of policy have ensured that their PCs do
not have the Stereo Mix capability. The initial workaround I suggest
is to try the last post in
I'm one of those folks that can't get Stereo Mix to appear on his VAIO
laptop.
Is it possible to connect Wave Input with Total Recorder?
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I'm one of those folks that can't get Stereo Mix to appear on his VAIO
laptop.
What version of Windows ?
Did you check show disabled devices on the Recording tab of the Sound
control panel ?
Is it possible to connect Wave Input with Total Recorder?
No.
For the ones interested, this plugin is perfect to get unsupported
services to work on our beloved hardware.
The perfect companion is an application that allows controlling the
stream remotely, for example through an android phone. I have used
GSRemote and I am pleased with it.
They will see if
Got it! Honestly, it started working during the night without any
reboots or acts. :D Thanks anyways!
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Hi,
so here's basically the problem. I installed the plugin successfully,
but it doesn't play the sounds. The plugin and the connection work,
because if I connect my USB-mic to computer I can hear it's sounds
through the my speakers, but not the actual sounds.
Any ideas what I'm doing wrong..
You seem to be looking at the output device page - IIRC the Stereo Mix
you want should be in the the Recording page along side microphone and
aux input.
Test stereo mix as a source for recording using the Recorder
accessory.
OK - I was right about problem with the wavin2cmd - see this post
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=422260postcount=315
Essentially the test command is
Code:
wavin2cmd -o wavin:0 | lame -x -r - capture.mp3
You need to have lame.exe
I am so grateful for your help.
After your pointer - I read through much of the advice that followed
and I have ensured that:
It is not running as a service
I have removed security (was password protected before)
(I also upgraded last night to the latest nightly build).
I increased logging
You've cut out all the interesting message from the log and left them on
your desk. Complete unedited logs are important as sometimes it is the
messages that are missing that are important.
There should be at least 100 lines of log messages. Please do the
following.
1. Change the three 3 log
My mistake - I had incorrectly set my favourite to wavein:0 instead of
wavin:0 when I was doing one of my tests and forgot to restore it. I
realised when I saw that it didn't matter what I put in the tunein url
I received the same cryptic error in the server log related to fixpath.
Thank you so
Sorry if I'm reviving an old thread - should I be creating a new one?
I have been trying to get the waveinput plugin to work on Windows XP
using Logitech Media Server Version: 7.7.1. (Essentially to get it to
work with Shairport4w to play my Audible files from my iPhone).
As part of the
msui772;694575 Wrote:
I guess there is no point expecting the plugin to work if the command
line program doesn't deliver.
Correct.
It's been a long time but IIRC there may have been a typo in the
command wavin2cmd.exe -w -o wavin:0 audiocapture.wav . I can't
check this at the moment as
bpa;694577 Wrote:
Correct.
Can you record PC audio using the Recorder accessory ?
Yup. No problem with sndrec32.exe - produced a minute's worth of audio
easily.
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mishkin;679336 Wrote:
But now my question is: What button in the main Squeezebox web UI do I
click to -play- to the Squeezebox what the PC is playing?
As detailed many many times before in this thread
Just create a Favorite (usually wavin:0 but not always as the number
is system dependent)
I just installed the plugin (on my 7.7.1 server) and I get...nothing.
After restarting the server, I don't see any settings page for the
plugin and when I run winin2cmd -l manually, I get no output (i.e.,
no device names displayed). I don't see anything interesting in the
server log. I'm
There are no settings.
What OS ?
What type of server ?
Does it have audio ?
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bpa;679316 Wrote:
There are no settings.
Ah, OK. I thought I saw something about settings when I skimmed
earlier posts in this thread.
bpa;679316 Wrote:
What OS ?
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit.
bpa;679316 Wrote:
What type of server ?
Not sure what you mean by this, but this is what I
I think settings were removed/no longer supported at some point to keep
step with SBS/LMS updates.
By what type of server I meant hardware - some servers such as WHS or
or other have embedded Windows or no audio hardware.
The ability to record the audio output of the PC depends on the
bpa;679328 Wrote:
I think settings were removed/no longer supported at some point to keep
step with SBS/LMS updates.
By what type of server I meant hardware - some servers such as WHS or
or other have embedded Windows or no audio hardware.
The ability to record the audio output of the
UPDATE:
Having tested the MP3 stream over the default FLAC it seems to be
holding onto the stream to just the Boom much better. Dare I say even
perfectly.
Takes a little longer to initialise the stream for some reason but once
it's going it's fine. Still drifts but from our conversations I
Hi.
I have.
Dedicated P4 media PC
Latest nightly build of SBS
Wavin
Squeezebox Boom
2x Software players (OpenPeak frame running Rhubarbs player)
PC is connected to main router via ethernet. Second router is connected
to that via ethernet. The only devices connected to second router are
the
Generally sync will not work properly with s/w players.
If you are syncing a h/w player with a s/w player - then for most
configuration there will be always be a problem with sync some users
have attributed the issue to the clock on standard PC audio output not
being as accurate as the SB h/w
Hi,
Sorry to be a div but where are the settings for Wavin?
On SettingsAdvancedfileTypes
Wave Input:
FLAC ^^Disabled/wavin2cmd-flac
MP3 ^^ Disabled
PCM ^^ Disabled/wavin2cmd
There doesn't seem to an option to enable MP3. If I disable Flac and
PCM does that Enable MP3 by default?
I'm
You need to have lame installed before you can do MP3 encoding. This
link may help but I've not checked it for accuracy
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/LAME_for_transcoding
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Thanks for that. Sorry for the noob question.
LAME seems to have installed by just copying the file as per the Wiki
page and wavin seems to be streaming on a quick test just now. Will
give it a proper road test over the next few days.
Thanks again.
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bpa;639831 Wrote:
All your other playback issues have nothing to do with the plugin -
they are SBS/network issues.
Yeah, you said it drifted because software players lacked proper
timing, so I bought a Boom and it still drifts.
Is there something specific wrong with SBS or the network
Mod74;642486 Wrote:
wavin is the only thing that does drift, and reseting fix the problem,
so I'm sorry but I have a hard time seeing the reason it drifts as
being anyting other than the plugin.
Can you describe your setup ?
As I understand it, you have two SB hardware players and they
If timers do not changes after you press the play button - then the
underlying application is not running.
How did you install WaveInput plugin ?
What are the settings for Wave Input in WebUI Settings/Filetypes ?
Get a log of trying to to play wavin:0 with logging player.source set
to INFO and
bpa;641239 Wrote:
If timers do not changes after you press the play button - then the
underlying application is not running.
How did you install WaveInput plugin ?
What are the settings for Wave Input in WebUI Settings/Filetypes ?
Get a log of trying to to play wavin:0 with logging
nervoteso;641337 Wrote:
setitng file are: wavein for flac and pcm, mp3 are disabled
For WaveInput to work - at least one setting must be enabled so either
* the settings have been disabled manually
* installation is faulty and SBS cannot find the wavin2cmd.exe
application.
Can you check
There is no http in the Favorite - the plugin creates a neew protocol
entry which is equivalent to http so just use wavin:
Are you running SBS as a service/background ? If so, the plugin will
not work as services have no access to audio subsystem.
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i've set the service off but it doesn't work. it says request not
dispatchable!
here's the log
Cannot request non-HTTP URL URL
[11-07-16 03:25:39.9025] Slim::Web::JSONRPC::requestMethod (383)
request not dispatchable!
[11-07-16 03:25:39.9033] Slim::Web::JSONRPC::requestMethod (383)
request not
'[image:
http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/984/desktop2011071610295186.jpg]'
(http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/835/desktop2011071610295186.jpg/)
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Were you running SBS as a service ?
You have a lot of other error messages in your log file - is SBS
running OK after you make the change ? if so then the change has not
worked.
I don't use Windows so I cannot debug your situation.
How are you running SBS ? IIRC there were 3 choices - manual,
bpa;641054 Wrote:
Were you running SBS as a service ?
You have a lot of other error messages in your log file - is SBS
running OK after you make the change ? if so then the change has not
worked.
I don't use Windows so I cannot debug your situation.
How are you running SBS ? IIRC
i've installed cdplayer plugin and it works! i really don't know how to
make this waveinput workit seems i type wavein in tune-in box
nothing happens, it's like it requires http:// form
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nervoteso;641060 Wrote:
it's like it requires http:// form
No it doesn't.
How long did you wait for audio ? Some users have reported that 10 -
15 secs especially if you have a large Radio Buffer station setting.
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bpa;641062 Wrote:
No it doesn't.
How long did you wait for audio ? Some users have reported that 10 -
15 secs especially if you have a large Radio Buffer station setting.
i'm waiting for minutesbut nothing happens..should i see some icons
appear? should i press play button?
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After you have selected the Favorite you created and pressed Play - the
elapsed timer should start and keep running.
If the timer has stopped then for some reason the support app is not
running and it is necessary to find out why the support app and
possible flac are not running.
If the timer
hey guys!
i'm a new user ... and i tried for 5h now ... but I can't get the
WaveIn plugin to work. maybe one of you can help me out.
the settings are:
-- notebook is a dell inspiron 1520
-- OS is winXP
-- player is a squeezebox boom
-- squeezebox server is version 7.5.5
-- WaveIn is 1.05
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nothing happens, times doesn't start
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hi,
i0ve installed waveinput plugin on win 7 (sb is 7.5.0), i see plugin
installed but how to enable it? i try to listen to some music on web
but i can't hear anything on SB! stereo mix is set on audio settings.
where are the settings of the plugin?
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No settings - just create a Favorite (usually wavin:0 but not always
as the number is system dependent) and then play it.
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bpa;641005 Wrote:
No settings - just create a Favorite (usually wavin:0 but not always
as the number is system dependent) and then play it.
so i should type i nthe url http://wavein:0 ???
or wavein:114 (my ip address)???
i can't hear anything
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no http (it is not the internet) try wavin:0 but it could be wavin:1,
wavin:2 ... depending on your system.
Is recording setup correctly as per the wiki entry
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/WaveInput_plugin#Configure_Windows_Vista_.2F_7
( ignore install instructions as they are out of
yes the test recorder is ok, i can record the music. the audio setting
are ok...ma if i type wavein:0, or 1,2,3 on url tune-in i can't hear
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bpa;635231 Wrote:
Many laptop vendors ship a deliberately crippled driver without the
Stereo Mix or similar facility.
You'll need to google to see if someone has a solution or you may need
to go the audio chip vendor to see if there is a proper windows driver
available
My new laptop has
Okay, I am fairly confident I solved this one now. I only had about 2
rebufferings all day of using wave input. I don't know why this only
happens with wave input and not with live radio streams or streaming
from my own music collection, but maybe it was the size of the streams
that wave input
rrand;635698 Wrote:
I don't know why this only happens with wave input and not with live
radio streams or streaming from my own music collection, but maybe it
was the size of the streams that wave input uses?
Use SBS Network Test to separate problems associated with WaveInput
with general
Okay, I have more information.
I installed SqueezePlay on my mom's iMac and ran Wave Input at the same
time side by side next to my Boom. All three (iMac, Boom, and SBS
laptop) are running wirelessly.
The iMac wave input didn't stutter at all. No rebuffering or
disconnects.
While the iMac was
MrC;635341 Wrote:
Try this. Go to Control Panel\Network and Internet\Network Connections,
right click the LAN connection and select Properties. Click the
Configure button and select the Advanced tab. Scroll down the list to
Speed Duplex, and set that to 100 Full duplex and OK your way
MrC;635431 Wrote:
PasTim, different NICs and drivers provide different settings for
allowing user's to configure NIC speed, duplex and auto-negotiation.
For example, mine does not have a separate setting, one each for a
speed/duplex setting with and without auto-negotiation.
The more
PasTim;635440 Wrote:
This is true for rrand as well me. (I managed to get myself into an
additional but separate set of problems by sending flacs from my
library in PCM format.)
rrad has a basic network problem as the network test proved. It is not
related to wavin or anything else.
If
bpa;635447 Wrote:
rrad has a basic network problem as the network test proved. It is not
related to wavin or anything else.
If there are problem with Flac but not PCM - I think the problem would
be related to the transcoding process such as processor not powerful
enough (unlikely with
PasTim;635451 Wrote:
rrand may have a less than perfect network, but it isn't obvious to me
why it only affects wavin. No matter, if improving the network fixes
it, then fine.
Less than perfect in Ethernet is unacceptable. A 1% or 2% packet loss
can cause catastrophic issues due to
MrC;635463 Wrote:
Less than perfect in Ethernet is unacceptable. A 1% or 2% packet loss
can cause catastrophic issues due to exponential back-off / retries.
Not doubting your expertise, but I'd like to make sense of the reported
problems with only one type of playback. Maybe when using
PasTim;635468 Wrote:
I'll be interested to know the source of the sound rrand is using for
wavin.
rrand ran the SBS Network test where TCP packets are generated from
inside SBS with no music source. The test had errors even at low
speeds and the the level of errors seem to vary. Wavin was
bpa;635473 Wrote:
rrand ran the SBS Network test where TCP packets are generated from
inside SBS with no music source. The test had errors even at low
speeds and the the level of errors seem to vary. Wavin was not
involved.
There are so many variables with Windows that tracking the
PasTim;635474 Wrote:
Nothing I hear says why rrand experiences problems with wavin but not
other flacs. Network problems presumably apply in either case.
AFAICT rrand's SBS is on a laptop wirelessly connected to router and
the player was also connected using wireless. The wavin stream is
Last night I thought I would give it another go and I tried connecting
the laptop by wire again. I ended up screwing everything up so bad I
got blue screen of death errors every time I logged in after about a
minute of use. I tried going back to a restore point which failed which
caused me to not
I tried it again. It resulted in another BSOD and required another
restore, but only this one said it was not able to complete the restore
which means this restore may have destabilized my system. Unfortunately
I don't think I'll be able to test that route anymore. I don't know if
this will
The link higher up this thread to the Wave Input Wiki returns an error
It's here
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/WaveInput_plugin
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I cannot get my Samsung Q210 Laptop to show Stereo Mix or anything
useful. The sound drivers are up to date and I see no was to downgrade
them.
I have
Many laptop vendors ship a deliberately crippled driver without the
Stereo Mix or similar facility.
You'll need to google to see if someone has a solution or you may need
to go the audio chip vendor to see if there is a proper windows driver
available
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bpa;635231 Wrote:
You'll need to google to see if someone has a solution or you may need
to go the audio chip vendor to see if there is a proper windows driver
available
Thanks, I put out a few feelers. It's and NVIDIA setup.
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Hello, not sure what is going on...I've been up and down this thread so
I apologize if I missed a fix for this. When I'm using this Wave Input
plugin my Squeezebox Boom goes into buffering maybe 10 times per
song. It's so annoying as to make the plugin unusable. Can anyone give
me some direction?
rrand;635265 Wrote:
I don't know where to start.Thanks.
Give some info about your system, player and setup.
WaveInput normally uses Flac between PC and player. If your network is
not capable of Flac or your PC is not up to transcoding then you will
get buffering.
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rrand;635265 Wrote:
Hello, not sure what is going on...I've been up and down this thread so
I apologize if I missed a fix for this. When I'm using this Wave Input
plugin my Squeezebox Boom goes into buffering maybe 10 times per
song. It's so annoying as to make the plugin unusable. Can
bpa;635269 Wrote:
Give some info about your system, player and setup.
WaveInput normally uses Flac between PC and player. If your network is
not capable of Flac or your PC is not up to transcoding then you will
get buffering.
Windows 7, Squeezebox Boom, SqueezeBox Server 7.5.4
I know it
PasTim;635274 Wrote:
My problems were solved by changing the File Types settings (Server
Settings, Files Types). Make a note of the settings you have for Wave
Input, and then try:
FLAC - Disabled
MP3 - Disabled
PCM - Wavin2cmd
Every system seems to be different, but that completely
rrand;635281 Wrote:
I don't know where you find autonegotiation on Windows 7 though. Is it
a wireless NIC?
Are you wireless or wired?
On a wired connection you should be able to see the properties of the
NIC device. I'm still on XP, and am not sure how you find the
properties on Windows 7.
PasTim;635284 Wrote:
Are you wireless or wired?
On a wired connection you should be able to see the properties of the
NIC device. I'm still on XP, and am not sure how you find the
properties on Windows 7.
On XP, my NVIDIA Ethernet NIC device had a number of 'Advanced' options
for
If you can't find the source of the problem you may have to go back to
basics. I connected my Touch directly to my PC via an Ethernet cable.
To do this I had to use a fixed IP address - I don't know if you can do
this with a Boom. I managed to show that my problems were not in the
network
rrand;635287 Wrote:
I'm wireless. That's why I couldn't find it. Sorry, I should have said.
Can you try it wired?
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Can you try it wired?
I wired the SqueezeBox Boom and now it's playing perfectly.
Previously I had the Boom in the same room as the router so I don't
think it was a question of distance. Maybe I have a wireless router
settings issue? I still am not sure what the problem
I don't know if this helps anybody but my router is a D-Link DIR-655.
Maybe there is a compatibility table somewhere?
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rrand;635292 Wrote:
I wired the SqueezeBox Boom and now it's playing perfectly.
Previously I had the Boom in the same room as the router so I don't
think it was a question of distance. Maybe I have a wireless router
settings issue? I still am not sure what the problem could be. The
PasTim;635296 Wrote:
Not something I know a lot about. I do use wireless a bit (for a laptop
I use to control my PC server which is in another room), but I spent
most of my time on security rather than performance.
You need to be be getting a decent speed from laptop to router and
rrand;635297 Wrote:
I guess I spoke too soon. It's still rebuffering while wired, but only
much less frequently.
The reason I'm here and not in the Boom section is because it only
happens when I'm using the Wave Input plugin. When I'm streaming my
music collection from the laptop to the
PasTim;635298 Wrote:
What's the CPU load?
What's the network speed shown on the laptop, and network load?
Are these loads level or spikey?
By CPU Load, I assume you mean on the Laptop.
CPU Usage: between 5-10%
Network speed: 54Mbps
Network Utilization: 1.82-2.0%
They look pretty level.
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rrand;635297 Wrote:
Do you think it might be that the flac stream is too big?
Delete or rename the custom-convert.conf file just in case there is
some residual effects and then restart SBS.
Then run the network speed test on the boom
(Settings/Information.Network test) and find the max speed
rrand;635301 Wrote:
By CPU Load, I assume you mean on the Laptop.
CPU Usage: between 5-10%
Network speed: 54Mbps
Network Utilization: 1.82-2.0%
They look pretty level.
Sounds OK to me.
I assume you are playing something over the Internet that you can't
pick up direct on the Boom so have
bpa;635308 Wrote:
Delete or rename the custom-convert.conf file just in case there is some
residual effects and then restart SBS.
Then run the network speed test on the boom (on Boom
Settings/Information/Network test) and find the max speed at which your
boom can sustain at 100% (i.e. no
So your problem is networking.
You are going to have to test all components to isolate the problem
- verify boom can play fast internet streams (e.g. 320k) through
Mysb.com
- changes cables between PC and router and router and player.
- check TCP and IP stat on PC net interface to see if there
Do we know what NIC rrand has on the server?
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The NIC is an Intel(R) Centrino(R) Advanced-N 6200 AGN.
I upgraded the SqueezeBox Server to 7.6.0. Now I'm able to make it
through multiple songs with maybe only a single Buffering. (Actually,
I don't even know if it says buffering anymore, as it happens so
infrequently. I just hear it stop
It just rebuffered, then it said Connection reset by remote. Then it
stopped and now it's just waiting for user input. :(
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Try this. Go to Control Panel\Network and Internet\Network Connections,
right click the LAN connection and select Properties. Click the
Configure button and select the Advanced tab. Scroll down the list to
Speed Duplex, and set that to 100 Full duplex and OK your way out.
Then test again.
MrC;635341 Wrote:
Try this. Go to Control Panel\Network and Internet\Network Connections,
right click the LAN connection and select Properties. Click the
Configure button and select the Advanced tab. Scroll down the list to
Speed Duplex, and set that to 100 Full duplex and OK your way
Sorry, old habit. Squeezebox Server.
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