Yes I wish I could read Jake's piece too. Can someone respost this in
plain mail form so all of us can get a look? Thanks...
--jooonyah
Hey there,
Ex-Boston Bob, who never goes out in Chicago anymore g
Ive heard both Cake and Robbie introduce old covers by explicitly
stating
something along the lines of 'I think this is a really good song'
Cake
even went so far as to say 'we're not doing this ironically.'
But don't some of
Junior says:
In my mind, it was always the Byrd's version of "The Christian Life."
I couldn't understand it any other way than as an ironic gesture at
the time
Why do you say that? And do you still think so?
Dina
In a message dated 3/2/99 8:07:14 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If you are a Hot New Country star and you cover a 70's pop or rock hit, you
will probably be vilified for it.
If you are an alt-country star and you cover a 70's pop or rock hit, you
will probably be
On Tue, 2 Mar 1999, Jennifer K. Heffron wrote:
On the topic of covers, generally, I enjoy the occasional incongruous
cover that an artist throws into the set, even the cheese. Especially
when the artist can make the cover song sound uniquely "theirs." I guess
I like the novelty of it. A
A few weeks back, I actually caught some of 120 Minutes on MTV, and found my
self actually intrigued/enthused by the 3 videos I did catch (one, of course,
was the new Sparklehorse). The other 2 artists, (I actually wrote their names
down to look into) were Fatboy Slim - "Praise You" and Eminem.
Considering R. McG. ended up doing 700 Club commercials for Pat
Robertson I now wonder if there was ever any irony in it.
jb
Hey there,
Slonedog says: Nirvana were pretentious 90s shits but I guess they
were
better than Shania.
Better how?
Jon Weisberger Kenton County, KY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://home.fuse.net/jonweisberger/
*sigh*
Later...
CK stupid and contageous
Hey there,
I never thought I'd be glad to hear "These Boots Are Made For Walking"
again until I heard Candye Kane reinvent it on her CD. If any song
screamed "cheese", this is it, and Kane turned it into a campy
cover that I like better than the original.
It _does_ have the greatest bass line
jon byrd wrote:
Considering R. McG. ended up doing 700 Club commercials for Pat
Robertson I now wonder if there was ever any irony in it.
I know! While I took it entirely ironically at first, I only learned as
time went on that McGuinn and Parsons, each in their own ways, were
understanding
Er, what he said. And it sure is ironic to see a post viciously insulting
a fellow P2er for an imaginary insult.g Please read more carefully
folks, lest you read something into a message that simply isn't
there.--don
Where I come from using the term "cakehole" as in and I quote here,
Considering R. McG. ended up doing 700 Club commercials for Pat
Robertson I now wonder if there was ever any irony in it.
jb
Well, the ironies really pile on here. The one who was taking the song
reasonably seriously at THAT time was almost surely future drug casualty
Gram Parsons, who brought
Ian,
Thanks for the story. As I suspected, Jesse doesn't go unnoticed or
unappreciated!
Kate.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I had the pleasure of seeing him perform a few years ago up in
Glasgow, Scotland, with 'Don McAlister Jr. and his Cowboy Jazz
Revue'. Jesse Taylor is a big, strong
Bob wrote:
Ive heard both Cake and Robbie introduce old covers by explicitly stating
something along the lines of 'I think this is a really good song' Cake
even went so far as to say 'we're not doing this ironically.'
If that's referring to their cover of "I Will Survive," I remember a
Barry says:
The song SOUNDS
tongue-in-cheek as McGuinn sings it on the released version, always
has--and is difficult to hear any other way.
I would agree with this and with Junior's thoughts. The arrangement and
the affected singing are so exaggerated that it's hard to hear serious
intent in
Reply to: RE: Dusty Springfield
Wednesday March 3 6:46 AM ET
Singer Dusty Springfield Dies At 59
LONDON (Reuters) - Dusty Springfield, the 1960s British pop star famous for her husky
voice and blonde beehive hairdo, has died at the age
of 59, her agent said Wednesday.
Springfield,
Paul,
Come to Dee-Troyt, and you will quickly tire of Cake, Fatboy Slim, and Eminem
(a Motor City native), which are all overplayed on our narrow-playlist radio
modern rock radio stations. I'm getting sick of all three.
np: Bangles - September Gurls
Did I ever tell you the time I got thrown
On Wed, 3 Mar 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Did I ever tell you the time I got thrown off the stage at St. Andrews for
kissing Susannah Hoffs?
Good thing it wasn't Mark Farner...then we'd never know. g
--
Geff King * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www2.ari.net/gking/
"Don't let me catch you
The first half-ironic cover was Elvis Presley doing a Bill Monroe song
called "Blue Moon of Kentucky." You wanna know why, ask Weisberger.
g##
--
Geff King * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www2.ari.net/gking/
"Don't let me catch you laughin' when the jukebox cries"
- Kinky
Awful news. One of the best female singer ever. RIP.
-Original Message-
From: Jeff Sohn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 9:07 AM
Subject: Dusty Springfield Dies of Cancer
I was real sad to hear this news this morning. I know Dusty's
I must say, I think that Fatboy Slim song "Praise You" is pretty darn great.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: passenger side [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 12:31 AM
Subject: Fatboy Slim eating MMs and Cake riding on a Jet (minimal twang,
Isn't Dusty supposed to be inducted into the RnR Hall of Fame this year? Too
damn late IMO.
She was amazing. RIP.
Slim
vgs399 wrote:
Er, what he said. And it sure is ironic to see a post viciously insulting
a fellow P2er for an imaginary insult.g Please read more carefully
folks, lest you read something into a message that simply isn't
there.--don
Where I come from using the term "cakehole" as in and I
This is not good news to wake up to.
Son of a Preacher Man is a great vocal performance.
Breast Cancer is a really scary thing.
All you girls please don't put off your check ups,
and you boys out there, please gently remind us to do so.
Nancy
Not only is that a great song but the video is one of the funniest things
I've seen on MTV in a very LNG time.
-Original Message-
From: Tar Hut Records [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
I must say, I think that Fatboy Slim song "Praise You" is pretty darn great.
-Original
Slonedog wrote:
> On first glance, Been, while a great bass player, doesn't seem a
> likely choice to play bass on an alt-country album. So my question
> is this: how did he hook up with Kelly? Is he spending his
> post-Call days as a session player? Is he a friend of hers or
> what? Any
Oh, Purcell's back. It's just old home week around here,
n'est-ce-pas (as they say down on the bayou). Millenial anxiety,
sheer coincidence, or the inescapable lure of twang subculture? You
decide.
--junior
Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 3-Mar-99 Kelly Willis
Michael Been? by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
how did he hook up with Kelly? Is he spending his
post-Call days as a session player? Is he a friend of hers or what? Any
other fans of the Call out there know the story?
I don't know
Tera wrote:
Where I come from using the term "cakehole" as in and I quote here,
"...much more creative than whatever spills out of your cakehole" as
a "colorful" term to refer to that which someone says or wishes to
express is a sarcastic putdown. Also, the foul language is not
I was thinking it must be time for the annual "Name Dave Purcell's
latest band" contest, but I hear he already -yes, that's right- already
has come up with a name. Unfortunately, it's not "Cakehole."
-Original Message-
From: Ph. Barnard [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday,
Darn, I'd been saving up band names. "We are not the undead but
merely indulge in ironic covers..." was a leading contender this
year.
--junior
Ohh God. *Really* bad news. The only singer we produced who could
compare with the Motown greats. If you grew up in the 60s over
here Dusty was part of the soundtrack of your life. One of the
truly great pop voices. The harmless gaiety of the nations is much
diminished.
If any of you can find
Matt wrote:
I was thinking it must be time for the annual "Name Dave Purcell's
latest band" contest, but I hear he already -yes, that's right- already
has come up with a name. Unfortunately, it's not "Cakehole."
Yep, we do. We're Holsum (like the bread company). Our drummer
saw it on a
Well, anyone who doesn't own "Dusty In Memphis" needs to go to
their local record store post haste and purchase this sucker. I think
Rhino re-issued it on CD not too long ago with previously unreleased bonus
tracks. A marvel of smooth (in a good way g) '60 soul-pop.
On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, Dave Purcell wrote:
Yep, we do. We're Holsum (like the bread company). Our drummer
saw it on a thrift-store delivery shirt I wore to practice.
Is this shirt kinda like a Hawaiian shirt, with the logo all over it?
Or is it more of a traditional delivery kinda shirt?
I
What a terrible loss. Dusty Springfield was one of the few white soul singers of her
generation who could legitimately stand up to the great black singers.
According to the BBC web site
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/newsid_67000/67646.stm), she had just been
awarded the Order of the
This may seem weird, but there's a gay rock band here who does a completely non-ironic
cover of "Son of a Preacher Man". Works really well in their situation.
-B "tying two threads together" B-
On Tue, 2 Mar 1999, Matt Benz wrote:
Anyway, I love the record, but am surprised to hear the tag team of
Yates and Weiss claim this stands out from the UT "genre". I hear plenty
of overt UT influence on this album. Strains of New Madrid lurk in the
banjo strains, etc... Also, do you really
According to postings on the Steel Guitar Forum, there will be a benefit concert to
help try to pay off some of the hospital bills the late Jimmy Day accumulated during
his battle with cancer.
It will be held at the Nashville Nitelife nightclub on Music Valley drive, starting at
2:00 on March
On Wed, 3 Mar 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, anyone who doesn't own "Dusty In Memphis" needs to go to
their local record store post haste and purchase this sucker. I think
Rhino re-issued it on CD not too long ago with previously unreleased bonus
tracks. A marvel of smooth (in a
I've been listening to the Damnations record as well and I can't really
recommend it. The noticeably slicker-sounding "Unholy Train" is a great
song but I think too many of the others are flat-out boring. They sort of
sound like the Indigo Girls with inferior songs and a banjo.
Just my
Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 3-Mar-99 Re: Dusty
Springfield by Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]
and some
previously unissued recordings, including -- David Cantwell take note -- a
coupla Gamble Huff productions.
When were these recorded? Are there lotsa cool horns strings on these?
On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, Carl Abraham Zimring wrote:
and some
previously unissued recordings, including -- David Cantwell take note -- a
coupla Gamble Huff productions.
When were these recorded? Are there lotsa cool horns strings on these?
All of the songs are from the late 60s-early
Geff King wrote:
Is this shirt kinda like a Hawaiian shirt, with the logo all over it?
Or is it more of a traditional delivery kinda shirt?
It's the latter, but I've seen the former on Ebay. They're sweet.
Dave
***
Dave Purcell, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Northern Ky Roots Music:
Howdy,
Where do I find the 1999 SXSW schedule on the Internet?
Jerker Emanuelson
Sound Asleep Records
Sweden
np. Bukka Allen-Sweet Valentine
Slonedog writes:I think too many of the others are flat-out boring. They
sort of
sound like the Indigo Girls with inferior songs and a banjo.
Whoa! I don't hear any of the Girls whitebread folkiness or unbridled (read
over the top), er, enthusiasm on the Damnations record. If you've never
seen
Jerker, just put "sxsw" into any search engine and the website should
come right up www.sxsw.com, I assume?
--junior
[Matt Benz]
Now, I need to get back to the Kelly Willis disc.
Do you mean listening to the disc or drooling over
the cd booklet?
marie
I wasn't referring to the Indigo Girls occasionally pretentious lyric
content or their enthusiasm. I was referring to how the Damnations
harmonies sound similar to how Amy Ray and Emily Saliers' voices mesh (the
Indigos main strength, I think). Anyway, I do want to catch the Damnations
live. I
It's sorta like the Ramones taking a very bad novelty record like
"Surfin' Bird" and turning it a pretty great rock n roll song.
Will Miner
I'm not sure what the story is with the Ramones covering this song, but I'd
be willing to bet dollars to cakeholes that it was a self-conscious homage.
I
On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, Matt Benz wrote:
I was thinking it must be time for the annual "Name Dave Purcell's
latest band" contest, but I hear he already -yes, that's right- already
has come up with a name. Unfortunately, it's not "Cakehole."
No, it's not Cakehole but something kinda white bready,
Boy don't you hate it when people take your original subject line and go off
on some weird tangent.
Just kidding,
Slonedog
-Original Message-
From: Jerry Curry
To: passenger side
Sent: 3/3/99 1:29 PM
Subject: RE: Kelly Willis Michael WHERE YA Been PURCELL?
On Wed, 3 Mar 1999,
Both, baby! g. And to find out she's playing in Columbus this April,
well, smack my hind with a melon rind!
-Original Message-
From: marie arsenault [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 1:01 PM
To: passenger side
Subject: Re: Damnations TX vs tired UT
On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, lance davis wrote:
Irony--for me anyway--is sort of like marijuana. You might wanna dip
into the bag every now and then, but a lifestyle based on it is silly
and boring.
This, my friends, is the quote of the decade. And it's part of a great
post as well- way to go,
Include Maria McKee's cover of the Dusty in Memphis gem, "I Can't Make
it Alone," from You Gotta Sin to Get Saved. OK, technically, this is a
Goffin/King cover, but you know what I mean. And speaking of Maria, I just
bought her first 2 albums today for my girlfriend, and then, a few minutes
later
While I'm here, here's a question I've always wanted to ask: What's a
shuffle?
Crazy Arms, the #1 shuffle!?
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Title: Re: Changing Subject Lines
I guess this isn't so much about who's a good alt.country band as who I like these days, but here goes: the Pinetops from Winston Salem - I think that Jeffery Dean Foster (who is NOT JD Foster. he's a youngin') is a vivid, intuitive songwriter and the band that
On Wed, 3 Mar 1999 11:38:24 -0800 Owen Bly
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...where a country band from San Francisco might play?...Anyone?Bueller?
Thx
Owen Bly
Ranchero Records
Oakland, CA
The Double Door is pretty cool. I've been to Tremont Music
Hall, too, but I thought it kinda
Title: re: Changing Subject Lines
This should read:
...Fernando from PORTLAND is gonna shock you all with his new album (nothing you'd expect if you've heard his other stuff) rootsy psychedelic rock en espanol - you heard me right...
hey, I meant to save that posting on Hanson appearing with Bob Weir
but I didn't.
(that did appear here, didn't it?)
could someone resend it to me or tell me where I could find it?
(but don't tell me "where to go")
thanks,
MichaelBerick
On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, David Cantwell wrote:
That's weird. The Laura Willie makes sense, since it was with the same
American studios band that she recorded In Memphis with, least as far as I
remember. But the Gamble Huff stuff? On the Philly box set, there's a
great, great Dusty cut called
Oops, forgot to reply to this. I can't speak for Neal, but for me anyway,
it stands out simply because it's so much better than yer average
run-of-the-mill alt-country album -- quality songs performed well, with
some of the most deliciously soulful singing that I've heard from an
Nice to have you back amongst the mouthy
and literate!
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RealCountry 24 X 7 Please Visit Then let us know what you
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Dina wrote;
Now I just want to be sure my understanding is correct.
If you are a Hot New Country star and you cover a 70's pop or rock hit, you
will probably be vilified for it.
In my book, not if it was a good song in the first place and you do a
solid job of it. If it ends up
Personally, I'd probably do the same thing with my CD (if it ever gets
finished) to one of our local hangouts (although none of them have a CD
jukebox). Oh well, I guess I'm outta luck anyways. But the Old 97s rule.
Mitch Matthews
Gravel Train/Sunken Road
The media tributes are coming thick and fast over here. One thing
that's been mentioned is when the Pope visited Guatemala last year
they played 'Son of a Preacher Man' over the airport PA to welcome
him.
--
Iain Noble
Hound Dog
Nope -- the GH productions are "Cherished" and "Goodbye," both of 'em
previously unissued.--don
[Matt Benz] SLAM! - The sound of Dave running out the door and
down to the record store.
If you are a Hot New Country star and you cover a 70's pop or
rock hit, you will probably be vilified for it.
In my book, not if it was a good song in the first place and you do a
solid job of it. If it ends up being like almost all of the
versions on the Rolling Stones or Eagles
In a message dated 3/3/99 3:28:08 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
The
box says that was originally off a 1970 Atlantic album called A Brand New
Me.
david -- that's the gamble and huff record. bill
What was that pop/rock song they covered on last week's opry? Wasn't it
some Michael Jackson number done with dobro, fiddle etc.?
Mike Hays
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Please Visit Then let us know what you think!
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For the best country
That's pretty weird.
Carl Z.
Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 3-Mar-99 Re: Dusty
Springfield and t.. by Iain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The media tributes are coming thick and fast over here. One thing
that's been mentioned is when the Pope visited Guatemala last year
they played 'Son of a
First off, I'm at The Kettles (pet name for my parents' house) while they're
on vacation, doing laundry and stuff there, and flipping cable channels
around, and CMT's Delivery Room is on. UNGH! There's this video of a song
"Single White Female" (I didn't even bother to check the artist) with the
From today's NY TImes:
David Johansen: A Man of Two Names
By JON PARELES
David Johansen
s career has traveled back through time: from the 1970s
protopunk of the New
York Dolls to the straightforward rock of his solo albums, and then, as
Buster Poindexter, in
rediscoveries of old
If you are a Hot New Country star and you cover a 70's pop or rock hit,
you
will probably be vilified for it.
I tend to think that if your a Hot New Country star you should be vilified
whether you cover a 70's pop/rock hit or not.
NW
Very interesting. Buster goes alt.rootsy g.
The Buster Poindexter live band could be amazingly good, btw. David's
really quite a character, if you consider him back through all his
incarnations. I mean, from the Dolls to this, via Buster Poindexter.
Phew!!
--junior
Excerpts from internet.listserv.postcard2: 3-Mar-99 Re: David Jo/Harry
Smiths by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Very interesting. Buster goes alt.rootsy g.
Agreed. Has anyone heard this, and might there be a record soon? I'm
especially curious to hear this outfit because:
Joey Baron on drums
and
I'm heading down to North Florida for the weekend. Will be based in
Jacksonville but will definitely be roaming.
Any good bands playing? Club suggestions? Anything?
Thanks,
Deb
Elena Skye The Demolition String Band will be at 9C, corner of ninth street
and Ave C in Manhattan, tommorow night from 10PM on
Plenty of guests coming down. We hope to have a real happy homecoming party!
Come party with us and say "hey" when you get there!
yer pal,
Elena Skye
Yeah, hey New Yorkers! The night after Elena, you should truly check out
Martin's Folly, playing at Arlene Grocery on Friday night - their first show
since their record, "Man, It's Cold" came out. I know, I know, I'm the label
guy, but these guys are truly a fantastic live band. The few people
I thought it interesting that Jake preceded his piece by saying that he
thought Fulks's "Jet" cover was what put the "alt" in his alt-country, as
well as Dina's comment about how covers are received from alt-country
artists as compared to those of New Country singers.
It resonated, of course,
Garden variety covers aside, *startling* covers provide
wonderful thread fodder because they are so damn rich
in ambiguity.
Intended or not, they are a test...the question is...which test?
Ironic covers: the hipness test
I know that
you know that
I know you know I know
Mitch asks:
Now the Pittsburgh/Twangburgh question: Who was the guy that introduced
the
bands at the Rosebud on Friday night. It's bene bugging me for a while,
he
just looked like a reject from the Broadway cast of "Grease".
That adorable reject was the amazing Mike Divine of Hillbilly
Now if current altie type bands, rock or country or whatever, were to dig
back to my AM listening days, they'd be covering (OK, I'll exclude the
Beatles and the Stones): "98.6," "Don't Walk Away, Renee" (God, I love that
song), "Snoopy and the Red Baron," "Incense and Peppermints," "Ichycoo
ps does Lee Ann Womack have a new song out, where she talks about doing a
lot of nasty things to a female rival, who's "a small target, that skinny
little thing" or something like that? It's a great tune, what I heard of
it on the radio.
Yeah, that's a dandy called "I'll Think Of A Reason
I would like to make one last point about irony, because Carl sums up much
of what I would certainly agree with. If there was one thing that I do see a
bit differently is the idea of irony as a '90's development (of course, if
you weren't suggesting that, Carl, please call me out). In point of
Anyway, I got through this whole post without using the word fuck. Maybe I
am growing up. : )
Lance . . .
Grow up, Lance, please. You cakehole.
Anyway, around here they say "piehole".
--
Joe Gracey
President-For-Life, Jackalope Records
http://www.kimmierhodes.com
Shut yr goddamn mouths all of ya.
Sorry - just practicing for my trip to New York later in the year.
Junior "Can you tell me the way to Staten Island or should I just go fuck
myself now?" Walker
-Original Message-
From: Joe Gracey [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, 4 March 1999
The other Junior writes:
Sorry - just practicing for my trip to New York later in the year.
Junior "Can you tell me the way to Staten Island or should I just go fuck
myself now?" Walker
A common misconception is that if you stop a New Yorker on the street and
ask a question, the response will
OK, GLT is out of the womb, but needs nurturing and maturing. This is where
you all come in. Some of the pages are nothing but "under construction"
statements. But you will get the jist of what this site is about as you
browse.
Not much is there, but if you have newsworthy info, mail it
Hello Amy,
No offense to New Yorkers meant - everyone I've met so far has been a gem
(and a funny one at that) which is kinda why I'm going there if you take my
meaning...
I think I'm gonna love NY, long as I don't get mugged...
Junior "New York City's got a lot to do with it" Walker
Lowell Kaufman wrote:
But the last 30-40 minutes of this record are top notch and killer.
Reminds me of the days I snuck into some dives in Miami to hear some
great bar bands when miami had an interesting music scene in the early
80s (not blues like this, but the raw spirit is the same).
An Elektra spokesman who doesn't want to be named says the label isn't too
thrilled with Fight Songs showing up "months ahead of time" on the jukebox.
"You try to coordinate an effort to make an impact at once, and when it
goes
out piecemeal, it can lessen the impact," he says. "Even
Miss Stephanie cites:
the lovely state of Ohio and the ever fertile ground for strangeness,
the Akron/Canton area.
For those who know me, this explains a heck of a lot about my childhood. g
Hey, that reminds me, I still haven't listened to that Hillbilly Varmint CD.
Mike Divine himself told me
For Chad Cosper, who inquired about Don Walser's health a
week or so ago (am going thru the digests).
Don was on Jovita's marquee last night. I saw him the
previous tuesday and although he was walking with help and
spoke somewhat carefully, he was singing well and was
completely charming to
Jaime sez:
For those who know me, this explains a heck of a lot about my childhood.
g
Hey, that reminds me, I still haven't listened to that Hillbilly Varmint
CD.
Mike Divine himself told me it was unlistenable, so I, um, put it aside.
Jaime-
Don't listen to him! The man makes his living
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