Re: Wilco's new horizon

1999-04-12 Thread Greg Harness
On Sat, 10 Apr 1999 00:06:42 +0100, Stevie Simkin wrote: (Max is doing a fine job in the Gourds With Freakwater as well. I hereby nominate Max Johnston as Sideperson of the Decade. ~Greg ___ Get your free, private email at

Re: Wilco's new horizon

1999-04-11 Thread Bill Silvers
At 01:01 PM 4/10/1999 Terry Smith wrote: So how's that new Wilco record? Couldn't resist. Anyhow, I haven't heard it, but there's a formula that I understand applies to this record, and establishes, in my mind, whether it's any damn good. It goes like this: "Summerteeth" = ELO. and I replied

Re: Wilco's new horizon

1999-04-11 Thread Amy Haugesag
Bill just loves to disagree with me: Hmm, for a small hypothetical, if you removed the vocal track from all three Wilco records, and just listened to the instrumentals, you wouldn't find each record different from the other? (What's the degree of difference significant to your mini-analysis

Re: Wilco's new horizon

1999-04-11 Thread Amy Haugesag
PS: For the record, I don't hate ELO nearly as much as many others around these parts seem to; I love early (i.e. Syd Barrett-era) Pink Floyd, and though Sgt. Pepper is my least favorite Beatles record, I can't say I hate it either. Nonetheless, I still don't like Summerteeth. --Amy

Re: Wilco's new horizon

1999-04-11 Thread lance davis
I can't stand any pink floyd or sgt. peppers Stevie Stevie my man, the Floyd I ain't even gonna touch, but The Pepper? As overrated as I think the album truly is, "A Day in the Life" is why rock means a damn thing (and may redeem the mediocrity which preceded it). If nothing else, McCartney's

Re: Wilco's new horizon

1999-04-11 Thread Bill Silvers
At 08:13 AM 4/11/1999 Mike Hays wrote: b.s. n.p. Marty Brown WILD KENTUCKY SKIES Weird, I had a listener call and request Marty Friday morning. In particular, anything from that CD. It's funny, because I've looked for that record for ages and couldn't find it, used even. Wasting time before I

RE: Wilco's new horizon

1999-04-11 Thread Jon Weisberger
At 08:13 AM 4/11/1999 Mike Hays wrote: b.s. n.p. Marty Brown WILD KENTUCKY SKIES Weird, I had a listener call and request Marty Friday morning. In particular, anything from that CD. It's funny, because I've looked for that record for ages and couldn't find it, used even. Wasting time

Re: Wilco's new horizon

1999-04-10 Thread Terry A. Smith
So how's that new Wilco record? Couldn't resist. Anyhow, I haven't heard it, but there's a formula that I understand applies to this record, and establishes, in my mind, whether it's any damn good. It goes like this: "Summerteeth" = ELO. And since ELO = Crappy, pretentious, classical rock,

Re: Wilco's new horizon

1999-04-10 Thread Bill Silvers
At 01:38 PM 4/10/1999 Amy Haugesag wrote: So how's that new Wilco record? I rilly, rilly don't like what I've heard, and as others have said, I don't see how the record can be called a breakthrough, since it's not drastically different from Being There (which wasn't as drastically different

Re: Wilco's new horizon

1999-04-10 Thread David Cantwell
Terry, your ELO premise is wrong. While the band's original records were equal, more or less, to crappy, pretentious, classical rock, the ELO period that Summerteeth is inarguably borowing from, and borrowing heavily--I say inarguably, because you only have to listen to A New World Record to hear

Re: Wilco's new horizon

1999-04-10 Thread Carl Abraham Zimring
ObWilco: I'm quite taken with Via Chicago. Yet to pass judgement on the rest of the record -- some nice sounds, though no songs have grabbed me. ObNorton, Amy sez: Primal Fear is the first and most striking example of that: a mediocre thriller with a more-than-usually smug and simpering

Re: Wilco's new horizon

1999-04-10 Thread Stevie Simkin
i wonder how many people who like this album actually liked anything done by elo, or the sgt. peppers, or late period pink floyd. i mean, that's my problem in a nutshell. i can't stand "summerteeth" cause it sounds so much like an attempt to duplicate those things, which i loathe. big

Re: Wilco's new horizon

1999-04-09 Thread Don Yates
On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Jezzy Larue wrote: I have lurked around this lovely P2 land of make believe for long enough-now I must speak! I just picked up SummerTeeth and I am amazed the closed mindedness of many of the "critical reviewers" that make this place their cyber home. Sometimes I

Re: Wilco's new horizon

1999-04-09 Thread James Gerard Roll
What Don said. But what has really got my simple little mind all a-twist is how a band rehashing many old sounds (Beach Boys, Pink Floyd, Beatles, etc.) can be used to accuse people of being too static to accept a new horizon?? remember i am a Wilco sympathizer and applaud the new

Re: Wilco's new horizon

1999-04-09 Thread Jerry Curry
I'll repeat: sonically, I've found the new Wilco album to be one of the most interesting recordings of the year. It is amzingly intricate and just damned, interesting. Now you all know by now how much I like pop music and overproduction. So, it would be a natural that I would take to this

Re: Wilco's new horizon

1999-04-09 Thread JKellySC1
In a message dated 4/9/99 3:51:21 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just picked up SummerTeeth and I am amazed the closed mindedness of many of the "critical reviewers" that make this place their cyber home. Maybe we just don't like Wilco. Slim

RE: Wilco's new horizon

1999-04-09 Thread Jon Weisberger
How do you get from this: A sprinkle of Pink Floyd , just enough to mellow out the strong flavor of Beatles, and finish it off with big dollop of eighties pop to this: there are new and uncharted territories yet to be discovered and Jeff Tweedy and Wilco are just the guys to prove it. in

Re: Wilco's new horizon

1999-04-09 Thread Ndubb
Maybe we just don't like Wilco. speak for yourself, bub. NW

Re: Wilco's new horizon

1999-04-09 Thread JKellySC1
In a message dated 4/9/99 5:36:05 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe we just don't like Wilco. speak for yourself, bub. I am, bub #2. Multiple personality disorder. G Slim

Re: Wilco's new horizon

1999-04-09 Thread Stevie Simkin
Tom Baker wrote: For me, Summerteeth just sort of lays there. When I have it on in the office, I oftentimes go for a long period of time after it has finished before I notice that there is nothing playing. It is, perhaps, the perfect background music - it stays in the

Re: Wilco's new horizon

1999-04-09 Thread Don Yates
On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, Stevie Simkin wrote: Never have I had such a strong impression of critics' band-wagon-jumping as I have done with this cd. Instead of maligning those who have a different opinion about the CD, you might just wanna chalk it up to different tastes. I very much doubt the

Re: Wilco's new horizon

1999-04-09 Thread JP Riedie
On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, Stevie Simkin wrote: Never have I had such a strong impression of critics' band-wagon-jumping as I have done with this cd. Instead of maligning those who have a different opinion about the CD, you might just wanna chalk it up to different tastes. I very much doubt the

Re: Wilco's new horizon

1999-04-09 Thread Don Yates
On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, JP Riedie wrote: Don, my love, you must admit there's a creepy unanimity among the critics regarding this release. There a definitely lemmings afoot. Hmmm. Well, I always find it interesting when folks perceive a "lemmings" affect when the music in question is

Re: Wilco's new horizon

1999-04-09 Thread Stevie Simkin
Don Yates wrote: And to put the shoe on the other foot -- I've no doubt that Stevie saw absolutely no lemmings when Trace was being praised to the skies, Hmm. I posted on this topic on The Other List just a day or two ago. I think Trace would have slipped under the radar if the label

Re: Wilco's new horizon

1999-04-09 Thread JP Riedie
On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, JP Riedie wrote: Don, my love, you must admit there's a creepy unanimity among the critics regarding this release. There a definitely lemmings afoot. Hmmm. Well, I always find it interesting when folks perceive a "lemmings" affect when the music in question is something

Re: Wilco's new horizon

1999-04-09 Thread Ndubb
Don, my love, you must admit there's a creepy unanimity among the critics regarding this release. There a definitely lemmings afoot. Like this is anything new? Critics tend to think like critics. Most of us have that same chip in our heads that makes us like music that most sensible

Re: Wilco's new horizon

1999-04-09 Thread Jeff Weiss
At 01:27 PM 4/9/99 -0700, you wrote: I have lurked around this lovely P2 land of make believe for long enough-now I must speak! I just picked up SummerTeeth and I am amazed the closed mindedness of many of the "critical reviewers" that make this place their cyber home. While I am a regular

Re: Wilco's new horizon

1999-04-09 Thread BARNARD
LOL, Jeff. Very nice response with a true P2 flair --junior