Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-23 Thread steve0564
erland;527261 Wrote: No, if you can reproduce it I'd suggest that you register a bug at bugs.slimdevices.com with detailed information about: - What operating system and SBS version and firmware version you are using - Step by step instruction how to reproduce the problem - Which radio

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-22 Thread steve0564
Another mistake / bug: Last weekend I switch on my radio. I search my prefered radiostation and the display shows that the station is playing. But I can't hear anything. Nothing! Sbs was running and the server was up, the indicator at the lower right corner shows a white connection to the server.

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-22 Thread erland
steve0564;527202 Wrote: Another mistake / bug: Last weekend I switch on my radio. I search my prefered radiostation and the display shows that the station is playing. But I can't hear anything. Nothing! Sbs was running and the server was up, the indicator at the lower right corner shows a

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-19 Thread eap
PeteCress;526270 Wrote: I bought a Squeezebox for the wife after she asked me about a similar (but Pandora-centric) product she was interested in. On Day 1, THREE TIMES I explained to the wife Here are the presets... just press 1 for WHYY, 3 for WRTI, 6 for a German station... THREE

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-19 Thread carib
eap;526374 Wrote: Are you using a local squeezebox server -- or only mysqueezebox.com. Better to use local squeezeboxserver software running on your computer. What nobody said was that this little toy really DOES need a 24/7 server working for it to operate as advertised. All I needed was a

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-19 Thread Jake-here
jmpage2;524897 Wrote: Continue to get backup alarm sound instead of my music playlist from SB Server 50% of the time on my SB Radio after update to 7.4.2 even after disabling nightly rebuild of my music libarary on my SB Radio. Just wanted to add my two cents. I'm having a very similar

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-19 Thread jmpage2
Jake-here;526424 Wrote: Just wanted to add my two cents. I'm having a very similar issue. I'm using my own SB server and setting up the alarm using the buttons on the radio. I choose a playlist of my music that is on my server as the alarm sound. At the set time the alarm will go off but

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-19 Thread PeteCress
eap;526374 Wrote: Are you using a local squeezebox server -- or only mysqueezebox.com. Better to use local squeezeboxserver software running on your computer. I have Squeeze box's Windows Home Server version installed on my WHS box. Under C:\Program Files\Squeezebox, there is a server

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-19 Thread flattermann
PeteCress;526474 Wrote: I have Squeeze box's Windows Home Server version installed on my WHS box. Under C:\Program Files\Squeezebox, there is a server directory. MyComputer | Manage | Services and Applications | Services shows a service called Squeezebox Server running. Is that

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-19 Thread PeteCress
flattermann;526476 Wrote: Your players should show up on the status page of your SBS: http://your_whs_server:9000/settings/server/status.html That seems to nail it then: I am *not* hooking into mysqueezebox.com. That's kind of a relief bc it would seem to imply that if LogiTech pulls the

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-18 Thread korhojoa
erland;525985 Wrote: How do you configure the alarm ? On MySB.com web site or in the SBS web interface or directly on the Radio ? Do you only use MySB.com for alarms ? Do you only use your local SBS for alarms ? Originally was using alarm set on the radio, but I sometimes turned it

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-17 Thread jmpage2
That's an interesting find. Can you refresh my memory on enabling ssh access on the SBR? I will see if I can catch it in the act myself. I don't, however, believe my network is the cause of this. I have seen the SB Radio go down and lose the wi-fi in 7.4.1 (but not in 7.4.2) even when the

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-17 Thread aubuti
jmpage2;525794 Wrote: That's an interesting find. Can you refresh my memory on enabling ssh access on the SBR? I will see if I can catch it in the act myself. Settings Advanced Remote Login -- aubuti aubuti's

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-17 Thread copperstate
erland;525746 Wrote: Does other people see the same thing, that normal alarm first plays and then switches to backup alarm after a while ? Or do you get the backup alarm immediately ? I think I saw that behavior once or twice, but I am not sure (wasn't quite awake at that time). It does

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-17 Thread Peter Stone
erland;525746 Wrote: Does other people see the same thing, that normal alarm first plays and then switches to backup alarm after a while ? Or do you get the backup alarm immediately ? The backup alarm jangle can be first to kick in at the scheduled alarm time. But it can also, it seems,

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-17 Thread bluegaspode
peter.s;525870 Wrote: erland;525746 Wrote: Does other people see the same thing, that normal alarm first plays and then switches to backup alarm after a while ? Or do you get the backup alarm immediately ? In the 'old' days of 7.4.1, the backup would also give way to the

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-17 Thread copperstate
bluegaspode;525887 Wrote: ... After that moment the Radio doesn't trust any signals from the server anymore until the user stops the backup alarm manually. ... It does not even stop after the set timeout interval? -- copperstate

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-17 Thread bluegaspode
Don't know exactly, but I don't think it is respecting any timeout when in fallback-mode. The problem is that from what I know there is now special 'timeout' signal from the server, just a general 'hey there is a new alarm for tomorrow, you can stop the current'. Unfortunately this signal is

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-17 Thread copperstate
bluegaspode;525897 Wrote: Don't know exactly, but I don't think it is respecting any timeout when in fallback-mode. ... Cannot be solved without a big overhaul (which I doubt will happen :( ) That's what I suspected. :( Hopefully they will spend some more resources on it when the Touch is

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-17 Thread erland
korhojoa;525980 Wrote: First: alarm is no longer reliable. How do you configure the alarm ? On MySB.com web site or in the SBS web interface or directly on the Radio ? Do you only use MySB.com for alarms ? Do you only use your local SBS for alarms ? -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-16 Thread erland
Marc;525469 Wrote: If the logs were there then that would be possible... Marc or bluegaspode, let's focus on the logging. We all know the history, there is no point arguing who is right and who is wrong. Marc, if I understand you correctly, we need some more logging to be able to track the

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-16 Thread Marc
bluegaspode;525510 Wrote: Why would I feel the need to defend 7.4.2. Every software (be it devoloped from you, me or logitech) will always have remaining bugs which need to be solved. And I keep my oppion. Claiming that the few unknown bugs from now wouldn't have happened with your code is

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-16 Thread Marc
erland;525498 Wrote: Marc or bluegaspode, let's focus on the logging. We all know the history, there is no point arguing who is right and who is wrong. Marc, if I understand you correctly, we need some more logging to be able to track the problem ? I haven't looked specifically at the

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-16 Thread bluegaspode
Marc;525524 Wrote: Why don't you stop complaining about the purported shortcomings in my (unwisely discarded) code and instead go fix the problems in 7.4.2 (the way that I once did for 7.4.1)...? Because from your writing it seems you are the only one who ever understood all implications and

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-15 Thread bluegaspode
Marc;525163 Wrote: I spent a great deal of time working toward the resolution of alarm problems in 7.4.1, unfortunately a good portion of my implementation suggestions were discarded. Marc, don't grumble, that's not true. I'd say that 95% of your suggestions made it in the final code - and

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-15 Thread Marc
bluegaspode;525205 Wrote: Marc, don't grumble, that's not true. I'd say that 95% of your suggestions made it in the final code - and the last 5% either didn't look important or you were not able to make your point (when at least two people were listening) why some scenarios would fail when

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-15 Thread Marc
erland;525175 Wrote: Same thing has happened to me too a couple of times. Your efforts in the past are greatly appreciated, I can understand your frustration but I hope you change your mind. At the moment all Logitech resources are probably busy with the Touch release but after they

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-15 Thread Marc
bluegaspode;525448 Wrote: I think its not fair to claim your patch was the best of all and everything done later was to the worse. Your change was a BIG step towards a very good solution on the given architecture, but also with Bens additional changes to your patch we have a much more

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-15 Thread jmpage2
I will attempt to set up the logging on the radio and collect them but it will be this weekend at the earliest. I don't have a lot of time to spend fixing Logitech screwups. :) -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-14 Thread Marc
jmpage2;524897 Wrote: Continue to get backup alarm sound instead of my music playlist from SB Server 50% of the time on my SB Radio after update to 7.4.2 even after disabling nightly rebuild of my music libarary on my SB Radio. Interestingly this did not happen on 7.4.1 so obviously some

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-14 Thread erland
Marc;525163 Wrote: I also had a 7.4.2 alarm malfunction a couple of days ago. Backup alarm audio played even though the station selected for the alarm sound was working fine. I turned the alarm off and hit the play button then the station played fine. After that the alarm fired again

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-13 Thread jmpage2
Continue to get backup alarm sound instead of my music playlist from SB Server 50% of the time on my SB Radio after update to 7.4.2 even after disabling nightly rebuild of my music libarary on my SB Radio. Interestingly this did not happen on 7.4.1 so obviously some fix for alarm reliability has

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-11 Thread simsboard
so many users have posted to this thread already may words to this is: I love my SBR and would not like to miss it any more I was totaly impressed from this streaming-concept right from the beginning but the devices were much to expensive for me as a student :-( of course I also had my troubles

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-11 Thread 0xdeadbeef
The situation improved a lot, but mainly due to the server changes two weeks or so before the 7.4.2 update. Unfortunately, there are still some issues with the alarm. E.g. as discussed before, there's a very high chance that it stops without backup if the router reconnects during the alarm. Also

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-09 Thread jmpage2
I continue to have issues with my SB Radio not waking me up to the selected playlist, but instead waking me up to the backup alarm sound. This is actually more common now in 7.4.2 than it was in 7.4.1 (it happened one time in 7.4.1 and it's happened over 20 times in 7.4.2). I will turn off the

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-09 Thread mpower9
I bought the Squeezebox Radio to replace a 27 year old conventional clock radio that had become unreliable. I bought it with no real understanding of what it would do other than play audio streamed by radio stations and wake me up in the morning. Reviewers said it had a nice sound for a bedside

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-09 Thread mpower9
Tut, tut, now, now, dearie. We mustn't be agist, must we? -- mpower9 mpower9's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33930 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75541

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-07 Thread davenva
erland;523172 Wrote: I think it's important to remember that what we see on these forums are users with problems, but we don't see is the other 95% who are very happy with the Radio. I'm not saying that we should ignore the 5% that have problems, I'm just saying that I strongly believe

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-07 Thread dsdreamer
I am a bit of a SB junkie/fan and technophile, so I don't consider my own views representative, but your post does help a lot in bringing a real-world perspective. I appreciated it a lot. A company I used to work for had a very good slogan summing up the aspiration I have for technology

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-07 Thread eap
davenva;523261 Wrote: erland, The subject of average users is interesting, and certainly most relevant to the potential success of squeezebox as a product line. I agree that this forum attracts perhaps the most demanding users of the product. Today this group likely makes up a larger

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-07 Thread Mnyb
Excellent post Davenva ! I think all your friends have mysqueezebox.com accounts possible more than one ;) But they don't now. The setup wizard is very adamant in that respect it ask for email right on the screen, I assume that a large quantity of new users do what you do on some websites

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-06 Thread Phil Leigh
davenva;522893 Wrote: Hi, Some thoughts: - Why is the alarm clock function implemented as client-server, requiring a 7x24 computer to be running to signal an alarm? (Whether or not one should have a server running 7x24 is an irrelevant question - it shouldn't be required for an alarm

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-06 Thread erland
Phil Leigh;522948 Wrote: This was the big mistake IMO. The Radio has a computer inside. All alarm functionality should have been in firmware with the basic ability to set alarms, snooze and beep all managed locally. Then it would have been isolated from wi-fi/server/internet issues and could

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-06 Thread bluegaspode
davenva;522893 Wrote: Just checked in after a long absence, to see if the alarm problems had been fixed. I was happy to discover this thread. Sounds like the answer is no. I think this is not true. A lot of work has been put into the task (though a bit too late), that for whatever reason

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-06 Thread davenva
Phil Leigh Thanks for the reply. Good that we agree on poor alarm function design. I stand by my comments on the rest. The underfunded QA function supports my comment. Management should fix the funding issue. Citing Sony support is the old We're bad, but so is someone else defense. The team

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-06 Thread Phil Leigh
davenva;523034 Wrote: Phil Leigh Thanks for the reply. Good that we agree on poor alarm function design. I stand by my comments on the rest. The underfunded QA function supports my comment. Management should fix the funding issue. Citing Sony support is the old We're bad, but so

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-06 Thread Phil Leigh
erland;522953 Wrote: I think the problem is that they wanted to use the same alarm logic for all Squeezebox devices, after all, the Boom should have the same alarm functionality as the Radio. A local alarm is fine on the Radio, Touch and Controller but it wouldn't work on Transporter, Boom

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-06 Thread sander
Phil Leigh;523070 Wrote: Erland - I hope they will learn from this. Now that slim has become fuller figure, they really need to move on and take advantage of their fundamental paradigm shift. One size fits all just doesn't work... It does seem to be the crux of the problem with squeezeplay.

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-06 Thread erland
sander;523116 Wrote: It does seem to be the crux of the problem with squeezeplay. It's really the worst of both worlds. After years of stability at the ip3k level they forgot how much work had gone into it, and now 3 years into development they're still grappling with fundamental issues like

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-05 Thread davenva
Hi, I'm the grumpy old guy who was an early complainer about the alarm problems.(I believe that I made the original suggestion involving a $5 alarm clock and duct tape...) Just checked in after a long absence, to see if the alarm problems had been fixed. I was happy to discover this thread.

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-04 Thread jmpage2
Mine had the exact same problem this morning. I think it is being caused by the alarm playlist being set to current playlist. I re-set it to a specific playlist and will see if it works correctly tomorrow morning. -- jmpage2

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-04 Thread bluegaspode
jmpage2;522546 Wrote: Mine had the exact same problem this morning. Which one ? -- bluegaspode 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 1xSB-Radio Server (7.4.1) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western Digital MyBook Essential. Secondary 7.4 Server on Debianized Buffalo

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-04 Thread jmpage2
Siduhe;522575 Wrote: Do you have an automatic clear and rescan set to run overnight or do you use iTunes or MIP autoupdating? I've had problems in the past with current playlist on alarms when the auto-rescan function has wiped the current playlist overnight. I do have auto rescan going

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-03 Thread jmpage2
Just wanted to provide an update with some weirdness I saw this morning with my SB Radio after updating to 7.4.2. 1. Was listening to my own content (on 24/7 WHS box) last night. 2. Powered off the SB Radio after using iPeng to change my alarm time to 7:00 AM. 3. This morning got a loud burst of

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-03 Thread 0xdeadbeef
Reliability of the alarm got a little better, but mainly due to the server fixes some weeks ago. The new firmware doesn't really fix all possible alarm issues. E.g. if my modem reconnects while the alarm is playing, there is a 50% chance that the (extremely loud) backup alarm is played at

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-03 Thread peter . s
0xdeadbeef;522294 Wrote: Reliability of the alarm got a little better, but mainly due to the server fixes some weeks ago. The new firmware doesn't really fix all possible alarm issues. E.g. if my modem reconnects while the alarm is playing, there is a 50% chance that the (extremely loud)

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-03-03 Thread bluegaspode
the changes in 7.4.2 were just to make the alarm reliable (meaning that in case of any error you will hear the loud fallback alarm). Any error means: - the server was of (and didn't send the actual alarm signal) - the network had problems - your internet radio streams has problems. Once you are

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-28 Thread eap
majones;521171 Wrote: I think it's very unfair that you people with Radios get a firmware update with 7.4.2, but those of us with Duets don't. Do what I do -- I own a radio AND a duet. So I get the best of both worlds. -- eap

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-27 Thread bluegaspode
erland;521025 Wrote: If you use 7.5, you can use the Patch Installer applet in my testing repository to install the Custom alarm window patch Where do you take the patch from ? The one from the bug report for changing alarm windows shouldn't work with all the changed code anymore or am I

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-27 Thread erland
bluegaspode;521049 Wrote: Where do you take the patch from ? The one from the bug report for changing alarm windows shouldn't work with all the changed code anymore or am I missing anything ? It's not from the bug report, didn't realize there was one already so I've made my own. Or are you

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-27 Thread bluegaspode
I meant this bug from you: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14970 I'll added a link and will discuss the code there. -- bluegaspode 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 1xSB-Radio Server (7.4.1) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western Digital MyBook Essential.

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-27 Thread Siduhe
majones;521171 Wrote: I think it's very unfair that you people with Radios get a firmware update with 7.4.2, but those of us with Duets don't. Why? The firmware update for the Radio is to fix specific issues with that bit of hardware like the preset buttons not working and some specific

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-27 Thread garym
I keep thinking that MAJONES posts above are all missing the smiley face. -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-26 Thread stomans
eap;520568 Wrote: Wow. I guess I'm lucky. My firmware download AND install happened in about two minutes total time. No glitches whatsoever. It was a thing of beauty. Same here. Apart from having to re-boot Radio to re-join my wireless network it was a flawless upgrade from 7.4.1 to 7.4.2

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-26 Thread fragfutter
upgrade worked flawless for me. -- fragfutter fragfutter's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35184 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75541

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-26 Thread erland
tcutting;520188 Wrote: Maybe erland can figure something out - like allowing one of the custom clock screensavers to over-ride the alarm popup (he has a way to replace the now playing screen). I use the new button setup (volume knob/mute for snooze; back for let alarm continue; power for

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-25 Thread majones
jmpage2;520308 Wrote: jump into a time machine and go back about 100 years I'm a bit busy at work right now, but I'll give this a try at the weekend. -- majones majones's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-25 Thread mlsstl
jmpage2;519977 Wrote: I just went ahead and downloaded and installed 7.4.2 on my WHS. Sure enough my radio was prompting me to update to 7.4.2 firmware. Started the 7.4.2 firmware download. An hour ago. It's stuck on 99% downloaded and not progressing now for 30 minutes. Can I risk

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-25 Thread bluegaspode
mlsstl;520510 Wrote: I had the same issue last night. The Radio firmware download was very slow (about 20 minutes) and then stuck at 99%. https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15522 This bug was fixed, but only for 7.5. So this could happen again when you upgrade to 7.5 in the

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-25 Thread FredFredrickson
If you don't want to risk it, don't try this- but I've been running 7.5 for a while now, and my Radio (as well as duet and touch) have been solid as a rock for a few weeks now. And yes, I no longer have the firmware upgrade bug- it was pretty annoying. -- FredFredrickson

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-25 Thread Michael Herger
This bug was fixed, but only for 7.5. It's probably fixed in 7.4.2 already: the issue was lack of memory. On Radio there was a memory leak (which should be fixed now), on Touch there sometimes were too many services running in the background (TinySBS, Samba). The latter is fixed in 7.5 only.

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-25 Thread eap
mlsstl;520510 Wrote: I had the same issue last night. The Radio firmware download was very slow (about 20 minutes) and then stuck at 99%. Had to pull the power plug to reboot. The firmware downloaded much more quickly the second time (about 2 minutes) and then installed without a hitch.

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-24 Thread bluegaspode
So the radio is dependent on an external server helping the radio to function properly. Not to mention dependent on a connection to the Internet in your home. You miss the point. Its not about having a server at all. If you want a reliable (7.4.1) alarm its about if you are able to run a 100%

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-24 Thread eap
Ron Olsen;520087 Wrote: The list you posted are changes/bug fixes in SqueezeBox Server. There are also firmware updates for the SqueezeBox Radio. As Andy G pointed out in another thread, the Radio release notes are here:

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-24 Thread jmpage2
Well the loud volume burst prior to alarm fade in is not fixed, guess I have to wait for 7.5 for that problem. I thought the alarm default screen was being changed as well to make the time actually readable when the alarm is going off, but apparently that's not the case either. I can only hope

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-24 Thread squishy
jmpage2;520111 Wrote: I thought the alarm default screen was being changed as well to make the time actually readable when the alarm is going off... I wish. Amazing that such a small detail is one of my main annoyances. There was some talk about allowing 3rd party apps to override the default

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-24 Thread Aslak3
tcutting;519980 Wrote: Go ahead and shut down (may have to remove power though)... it downloads first before it performs install. I've found this happens often on firmware upgrades - but, if you do full turn-off, then turn-on before performing upgrade it works fine. I had this nonsense as

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-24 Thread m1abrams
jmpage2;519932 Wrote: You are continuing to miss the point. No one should need to leave a computer on 24X7 for an *alarm clock* to work reliably! We personally pay about .09 per kwh for electric and the rates have been going up at a faster level than inflation for the past 5 years

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-24 Thread bluegaspode
I don't use the big button anymore with 7.4.2. You can hit the volume-button (will act as 'snooze') and the power button (will act as 'alarm off'). These shortcuts are not documented though thats why there is still a menu :) As to the possebility for third party dev to change the popup-UI:

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-24 Thread m1abrams
bluegaspode;520185 Wrote: I don't use the big button anymore with 7.4.2. You can hit the volume-button (will act as 'snooze') and the power button (will act as 'alarm off'). These shortcuts are not documented though thats why there is still a menu :) As to the possebility for third

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-24 Thread jmpage2
tcutting;520188 Wrote: Maybe erland can figure something out - like allowing one of the custom clock screensavers to over-ride the alarm popup (he has a way to replace the now playing screen). I use the new button setup (volume knob/mute for snooze; back for let alarm continue; power for

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-24 Thread majones
jmpage2;519480 Wrote: I installed Squeezebox Server 7.4.1 in October right after getting my Squeezebox radio. Me too. I subsequently bought two more Radios so I now have three. They work just fine. For some reason, I didn't decide to start a post on this forum with rude words in capitals. --

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-24 Thread jmpage2
majones;520292 Wrote: Me too. I subsequently bought two more Radios so I now have three. They work just fine. For some reason, I didn't decide to start a post on this forum with rude words in capitals. Maybe it hadn't occurred to you that your experiences are not the same as other users

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-23 Thread bluegaspode
Mnyb;519715 Wrote: Post 7.4.2 radio will also support WOL (wake on lan) with alarms, this will make everybody happy. Um - did you really check thats it is doing like you write ? I know that Ben checked in code to do so (and I also see it beeing there). Alas - MY radio nevertheless isn't

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-23 Thread eap
dsdreamer;519702 Wrote: I used to think computer power consumption was nothing to be concerned about as well, but PGE (Pacific Gas and Electricity) made me change my mind. Tier 1 (Baseline)$0.11877 Tier 2 (101-130% of baseline) $0.13502 Tier 3 (131-200% of

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-23 Thread toby10
dsdreamer;519702 Wrote: I used to think computer power consumption was nothing to be concerned about as well, but PGE (Pacific Gas and Electricity) made me change my mind. Tier 1 (Baseline)$0.11877 Tier 2 (101-130% of baseline) $0.13502 Tier 3 (131-200% of

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-23 Thread david_f1976
eap;519768 Wrote: Hogwash. I bet those figures include the monitor. Generally 50% of the wattage is easily tamed by sleeping your monitor. And modern hard drives and processors and video cards generally ramp down when not in use. Not at all. He said re-purposing an old desktop computer.

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-23 Thread eap
david_f1976;519778 Wrote: Not at all. He said re-purposing an old desktop computer. I used to have an Athlon XP-based machine as my headless server with unused devices disabled in the BIOS. It drew over 90 W at idle Well that's like using a 1950s car and comparing the gas mileage to today's

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-23 Thread iPhone
Off Topic: Can power be a concern, sure it can depending on where one lives. So build/buy an Atom based Vortexbox Server so you can leave it on 24/7/365 for under 50 Bucks a year (less then $25 in most places). Or do a SheevaPlug and get down to $10 to $15 a year for 24/7/365. Of course with a

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-23 Thread jmpage2
eap, You are just way out in left (right?) field with this one. 99% of the computers made in the last few years have energy settings that put them into a hibernate mode after a few minutes of inactivity. My iMac hibernates perfectly and when hibernating uses about 3W of power. It takes only a

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-23 Thread eap
jmpage2;519899 Wrote: eap, You are just way out in left (right?) field with this one. 99% of the computers made in the last few years have energy settings that put them into a hibernate mode after a few minutes of inactivity. My iMac hibernates perfectly and when hibernating uses about

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-23 Thread Muele
jmpage2, eap: You are not on the same page ;) There are errors in 7.4.1 with regards to alarm stability. It has been dealt with in 7.4.2. Forget about running a server just for the alarm. Run it for other reasons. -- Muele BR Mogens 1 Radio, 2 Controllers, 2 Receivers, 1 Squeezeplay. Served

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-23 Thread Aslak3
eap;519692 Wrote: Its not that you leave a computer on 24/7 in order to have a reliable alarm clock, its that typical use of a computer could (nay, even should) contemplate 24/7 hour use of that computer. So the alarm clock is then just a bonus you get on top of that. I had my computer on

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-23 Thread jmpage2
eap;519910 Wrote: 40 watts x 16 hours x 365 days = 233.6 KillowattHours (KwH) 233.6 x $.10 (I'll give you 10 cents per KwH which is a lot) = $23.00 per year. I'm not gonna cry over $23.00 a year (do you unplug your a/v receivers and TVs at night)? They eat up electricity doing nothing

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-23 Thread aubuti
jmpage2;519932 Wrote: I do run a server 24X7 but my parents, brother, sister and 99% of my friends have absolutely no interesting in doing this just so that they know they can wake up reliably in the morning when a $5 alarm clock is perfectly capable of doing the same job. Then they should

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-23 Thread bluegaspode
jmpage2;519932 Wrote: You are continuing to miss the point. No one should need to leave a computer on 24X7 for an *alarm clock* to work reliably! 1kwh in germany costs about 0.20(Euro)Cent, so 0.27(US)Cent. So much for 'cheap' ;) ... Anyway - jmpage - SB-Server 7.4.2 (final) is available

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-23 Thread jmpage2
aubuti;519953 Wrote: Then they should get the $5 alarm clock. Until recently my $20 travel alarm clock sat right next to my SB Radio, and that's what I used for alarms because that's what I preferred, even though the SB alarm works fine for me. Yes, by all means Logitech should stop

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-23 Thread eap
jmpage2;519958 Wrote: Yes, by all means Logitech should stop selling to people that aren't computer geniuses because they haven't implemented basic internal alarm capabilities in the SB Radio that aren't dependent on an external server helping the alarm to function properly. Brilliant.

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-23 Thread jmpage2
bluegaspode;519957 Wrote: 1kwh in germany costs about 0.20(Euro)Cent, so 0.27(US)Cent. So much for 'cheap' ;) ... Anyway - jmpage - SB-Server 7.4.2 (final) is available for download already so it should be soon pushed via MySB.com too (if not done so already). Your biggest alarm woes

Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox 7.4.2 - what the HELL Logitech?

2010-02-23 Thread tcutting
Go ahead and shut down (may have to remove power though)... it downloads first before it performs install. I've found this happens often on firmware upgrades - but, if you do full turn-off, then turn-on before performing upgrade it works fine. -- tcutting

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