Re: Reiser4 patches

2007-05-13 Thread Devils-Hawk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 reiser4-for-2.6.20.patch works fine now on my setup. No more panics in do_readpage_extent. System is up and running under heavy disk io for 3 days now. Thank you very much, for the great work. regards DevH -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version:

Re: reiser4 causes system freeze for 1-2 seconds

2007-04-04 Thread sbenni
Hello Edward, first thanks for your answer. My system has 1536M. After I has started my system with 512M I copied three different files and the system freezed only once for less than 0,5 seconds and ent:hda8! shows up less frequently in top. But after rebooting with 1536M I could not

Re: reiser4 causes system freeze for 1-2 seconds

2007-04-04 Thread sbenni
After some hours the problem has occured again. with azureus running, almost three second freezed top - 19:28:24 up 8:25, 9 users, load average: 6.89, 2.72, 1.26 Tasks: 110 total, 11 running, 98 sleeping, 0 stopped, 1 zombie Cpu(s): 2.6% us, 95.8% sy, 0.2% ni, 0.0% id, 0.0% wa,

Re: reiser4 causes system freeze for 1-2 seconds

2007-04-04 Thread Xu CanHao
Hi! Azureus is famous for its fsync() behavior, which is known extremely slow in reiser4. Please search the mailing-list for previous posts. Thanks! 2007/4/5, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: After some hours the problem has occured again. with azureus running, almost three second

Re: reiser4 causes system freeze for 1-2 seconds

2007-04-03 Thread Edward Shishkin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. Hello, I have a 120Gb partition with reiser4. If I start a command like cp 500mb file dd within it the system frequently freezes for 1-2 seconds and ent:hda8! uses nearly 100% cpu. This causes the sound output from xmms to be interrupted and my mouse freezes

Re: reiser4: reserved disk space

2007-03-28 Thread Edward Shishkin
Hello. This is a comment from block_alloc.c: /* * SPACE RESERVED FOR UNLINK/TRUNCATE * * Unlink and truncate require space in transaction (to update stat data, at * least). But we don't want rm(1) to fail with No space on device error. * * Solution is to reserve 5% of disk space for truncates

Re: reiser4: reserved disk space

2007-03-28 Thread Ignatich
Hello Edward, Thank you for explanation. I'm still not convinced though. Cryptcompress is indeed awesome, but that doesn't change the fact that reserved block calculation can be improved. 5% of modern 500GB drive is 25GB and I can't see how that space will ever be used even if I will delete

Re: reiser4 panic in do_readpage_extent

2007-03-11 Thread Edward Shishkin
Devils-Hawk wrote: The problem still persists also trying to boot multiple times it sometimes triggers much earlier in the boot process than it did before. Hmm.. can not reproduce it.. The attached patch (against reiser4-for-2.6[19, 20]) allows to dump stack and some useful info noted as

Re: reiser4 panic

2007-03-11 Thread Edward Shishkin
Hello Matheus, Unfortunately, there is no suggestions except checking this by fsck. Thanks, Edward. Matheus Izvekov wrote: Got this oops message while using reiser4: reiser4[q(3866)]: cbk_level_lookup (fs/reiser4/search.c:961)[vs-3533]: WARNING: Keys are inconsistent. Fsck?

Re: reiser4 panic

2007-03-11 Thread Matheus Izvekov
On 3/11/07, Edward Shishkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Matheus, Unfortunately, there is no suggestions except checking this by fsck. Thanks, Edward. Just did it, here is what i got: FSCK: Node (3112), item (12), [123c7:1(SD):12e747561726567:5a379:0]: item has the wrong length (56).

Re: reiser4 panic in do_readpage_extent

2007-03-09 Thread Edward Shishkin
Devils-Hawk wrote: Recently tried switching from 2.6.18 + reiser4-for-2.6.18-r3.patch.gz, which works perfectly fine to 2.6.19 + reiser4-for-2.6.19-r3.patch.gz I also tried 2.6.20 laurent riffard's reiser4-for-2.6.20. The last both die somewhere during init when one of the 2 following asserts

Re: reiser4 panic in do_readpage_extent

2007-03-09 Thread Devils-Hawk
The problem still persists also trying to boot multiple times it sometimes triggers much earlier in the boot process than it did before. regards devh Edward Shishkin wrote: Would you please try the attached patch over reiser4-for-2.6.[19, 20] Thanks, Edward.

Re: reiser4 panic in do_readpage_extent

2007-03-08 Thread Edward Shishkin
Devils-Hawk wrote: Recently tried switching from 2.6.18 + reiser4-for-2.6.18-r3.patch.gz, which works perfectly fine to 2.6.19 + reiser4-for-2.6.19-r3.patch.gz I also tried 2.6.20 laurent riffard's reiser4-for-2.6.20. The last both die somewhere during init when one of the 2 following asserts

Re: Reiser4 ToDo list page

2007-02-07 Thread Clemens Eisserer
please take a look at http://pub.namesys.com/Reiser4/ToDo why?

Re: Reiser4 terribly slow

2007-01-28 Thread John Gilmore
I agree, reiser4 has been very slow for me, and as I've upgraded the kernel, it's gotten, if anything, worse. I'm currently running 2.6.18-mm3. I upgraded (as I have before) in the hope that the generally very slow issue had been fixed in this kernel release, and if I knew that it was fixed

Re: Reiser4 terribly slow

2007-01-24 Thread Xu CanHao
AFAIK, vim fsyncs, azureus fsyncs, and may be many other applications fsyncs but not only databases. Definitly turn off fsync() is a bad idea. I just wonder how bad r4's fsync() performance is. It seems the result is: disabled fsync() r4 is even slower than enabled fsync() ext3.o Is it never

Re: reiser4: data recovery after mkfs.reiser4?

2006-12-21 Thread Christian Trefzer
Hi, On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 03:05:33PM -0700, Quinn Harris wrote: I really doubt there is any solution that would take less than a few hours. I am sure it is possible to recover much of the data but to the best of my knowledge no tool exists that can recover from an abandoned root node (for

Re: reiser4: data recovery after mkfs.reiser4?

2006-12-21 Thread Michael Weissenbacher
Hi, I already answered Vladimir's posting twice - one thanks, I'll try that and one success report. It just so happens that a LOT of mails I send to the list never gets through, no idea why. Could someone resend that info to the list? I'm sure others would be interested too. Michael

Re: reiser4: data recovery after mkfs.reiser4?

2006-12-21 Thread Christian Trefzer
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 12:35:04PM +0100, Michael Weissenbacher wrote: Could someone resend that info to the list? I'm sure others would be interested too. I just replied I'd try what Vladimir said, and so I did - successfully. But here you go, hoping this one will come through. I even stopped

Re: reiser4: data recovery after mkfs.reiser4?

2006-12-20 Thread Quinn Harris
I really doubt there is any solution that would take less than a few hours. I am sure it is possible to recover much of the data but to the best of my knowledge no tool exists that can recover from an abandoned root node (for reiser4). Though I believe recovery in this case would just involve

Re: Reiser4 for 2.6.19

2006-12-04 Thread Guilherme Covolo
great job :) Em Domingo 03 Dezembro 2006 11:49, Laurent Riffard escreveu: [this is a repost, since half of my previous mails didn't reach reiserfs mailing-list] Hi, There is 10 patches in this series, first one is Reiser4 for 2.6.18 version 3. It's made up from the last Namesys Reiser4

Re: Reiser4 for 2.6.18

2006-11-18 Thread Marat Buharov
ftp://ftp.namesys.com/pub/reiser4-for-2.6/2.6.18/reiser4-for-2.6.18-2.patch.gz 550 No such file or directory. ftp://ftp.namesys.com/pub/reiser4-for-2.6/2.6.18/ftp://ftp.namesys.com/pub/reiser4-for-2.6/2.6.18/reiser4-for-2.6.18-2.patch.gzis empty. :-( On 11/15/06, Edward Shishkin [EMAIL

Re: reiser4 experimental patch

2006-11-10 Thread Johannes Hirte
Am Freitag, 10. November 2006 00:39 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: thanks for answer! :) so, the patch compiles fine (one warning in super_ops.c), the FS boot correctly, but if i execute for exemple startx, kernel panic! i compile reiser4 built in with debug, i will send the error (kernel panic)

Re: reiser4 experimental patch

2006-11-10 Thread Guilherme Covolo
Em Sexta 10 Novembro 2006 09:44, Johannes Hirte escreveu: Am Freitag, 10. November 2006 00:39 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: thanks for answer! :) so, the patch compiles fine (one warning in super_ops.c), the FS boot correctly, but if i execute for exemple startx, kernel panic! i compile

Re: reiser4 experimental patch

2006-11-10 Thread Guilherme Covolo
the diference between my an Johannes Hirte's patch is: /fs/reiser4/plugins/item/item.h ssize_t (*write) (struct file *, const char __user *, size_t, loff_t *pos); --- int (*write) (struct file *, const char __user *, size_t, loff_t *pos);

Re: reiser4 experimental patch

2006-11-10 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 10:59:30 -0200, Guilherme Covolo said: the diference between my an Johannes Hirte's patch is: * /fs/reiser4/super_ops.c 290c290 static int reiser4_statfs(struct dentry *dentry, struct kstatfs *statfs) ---

Re: reiser4 experimental patch

2006-11-10 Thread Guilherme Covolo
i change my patch, now is equals of the Johannes Hirte's patch .. only difference is my patch have the comment /* change */ in the source. run on x86_64 fine! :) my patch and the Johannes Hirte's patch is linked in my site, www.youare.not.br thanks to all! Em Sexta 10 Novembro 2006

Re: reiser4 experimental patch

2006-11-09 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 17:23:20 -0200, Guilherme Covolo said: hello guys, my experimental patch need modfications on fs/reiser4/context.c i need help ;) You'll have to give us more info than that. What happened? Patch reject? It didn't compile? It didn't modprobe? The resulting kernel

Re: reiser4 experimental patch

2006-11-09 Thread smyows
thanks for answer! :) so, the patch compiles fine (one warning in super_ops.c), the FS boot correctly, but if i execute for exemple startx, kernel panic! i compile reiser4 built in with debug, i will send the error (kernel panic) to the list tomorow because i'm now in my house, and the experinet

Re: reiser4 cryptcompress test setup: bug

2006-11-07 Thread Danny Milosavljevic
Hi, On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 17:07:16 -0500, Valdis.Kletnieks wrote: On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 19:27:57 GMT, Danny Milosavljevic said: Hi Edward, I finally tried your cryptcompress setup (2.6.18-mm3) and just did the first evil thing I could think of: the reiser4 partition with ccreg40 enabled is

Re: Reiser4: Running out of room still causes corruption

2006-10-17 Thread Johannes Hirte
Am Dienstag, 10. Oktober 2006 07:48 schrieb Daniel Kasak: Hi all. I'd had more problems with filesystem corruption after running out of space. I was able to reproduce this error and log the oops: Oct 16 01:00:01 Theben cron[22195]: (root) CMD (rm -f /var/spool/cron/lastrun/cron.hourly) Oct

Re: Reiser4: Running out of room still causes corruption

2006-10-17 Thread Vladimir V. Saveliev
Hello On Tuesday 17 October 2006 16:42, Johannes Hirte wrote: Am Dienstag, 10. Oktober 2006 07:48 schrieb Daniel Kasak: Hi all. I'd had more problems with filesystem corruption after running out of space. This could be deletion of partially converted file. I will try to simulate this

Re: Reiser4: Running out of room still causes corruption

2006-10-10 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Tuesday 10 October 2006 18:48, Daniel Kasak wrote: I'd had more problems with filesystem corruption after running out of space. So have I, while using Ktorrent on one occasion and rsync to update a portage tree on the other. Both caused fairly massive filesystem corruption, i.e. 200+ files

Re: reiser4 resize

2006-09-21 Thread David Masover
Alexey Polyakov wrote: On 9/20/06, Łukasz Mierzwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's been proven that flushes are doing much more job then they should. Not so long ago someone send a trace of block device io accesess during reiser4 work and someone anylized it and said that some files or parts of

Re: reiser4 resize

2006-09-21 Thread David Masover
Alexey Polyakov wrote: On 9/19/06, David Masover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I have over a gig of RAM free (not even buffer/cache, but _free_), and am trying to download anything over BitTorrent, even if it's less than 200 megs, the disk thrashes so badly that the system is really only

Re: reiser4 resize

2006-09-21 Thread Łukasz Mierzwa
Dnia Thu, 21 Sep 2006 09:30:09 +0200, David Masover [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisał: --- linux/fs/buffer.c 2006-08-15 20:40:36.504608696 -0500 +++ linux/fs/buffer.c.new 2006-08-15 20:42:35.877461264 -0500 @@ -366,12 +366,12 @@ asmlinkage long sys_fsync(unsigned int fd) { - return

Re: reiser4 resize

2006-09-21 Thread Łukasz Mierzwa
Dnia Thu, 21 Sep 2006 09:30:09 +0200, David Masover [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisał: On 9/20/06, Łukasz Mierzwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's been proven that flushes are doing much more job then they should. Not so long ago someone send a trace of block device io accesess during reiser4 work and

Re: reiser4 resize

2006-09-20 Thread Alexey Polyakov
On 9/19/06, David Masover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I have over a gig of RAM free (not even buffer/cache, but _free_), and am trying to download anything over BitTorrent, even if it's less than 200 megs, the disk thrashes so badly that the system is really only usable for web and email.

Re: reiser4 resize

2006-09-20 Thread Alexey Polyakov
On 9/20/06, Łukasz Mierzwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's been proven that flushes are doing much more job then they should. Not so long ago someone send a trace of block device io accesess during reiser4 work and someone anylized it and said that some files or parts of file where written over

Re: reiser4 resize

2006-09-19 Thread Vladimir V. Saveliev
Hello On Tuesday 19 September 2006 05:12, Jack Byer wrote: Short summary: Will a resize program for reiser4 be available within the next six months? Currently nobody works on that. So, I guess it is not very likely that reiser4.resize will be created within next six months. Long

Re: reiser4 resize

2006-09-19 Thread David Masover
Vladimir V. Saveliev wrote: Hello On Tuesday 19 September 2006 05:12, Jack Byer wrote: Short summary: Will a resize program for reiser4 be available within the next six months? Currently nobody works on that. So, I guess it is not very likely that reiser4.resize will be created within next

Re: reiser4 resize

2006-09-19 Thread Jack Byer
that was not a working program. I never looked too far into that issue, because I didn't need it back then. I think you should change to a filesystem which has resize. I guess this means that I'll won't use reiser4 again until 2 TB drives come out and I upgrade. Maybe by then reiser4 will

Re: reiser4: mount -o remount,ro / causes error on reboot

2006-09-18 Thread Peter
On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 21:45:29 +0300, Jussi Suutari-Jääskö wrote: Peter wrote: On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 17:01:18 +, Peter wrote: this bug was also reported on gentoo wrt the newer baselayout. Indications are it may be a r4 issue, although no one seems to know why!

Re: reiser4: mount -o remount,ro / causes error on reboot

2006-09-17 Thread Jussi Suutari-Jääskö
Peter wrote: On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 17:01:18 +, Peter wrote: this bug was also reported on gentoo wrt the newer baselayout. Indications are it may be a r4 issue, although no one seems to know why! http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144093 I have the same problem, segfault on boot if

Re: reiser4: mount -o remount,ro / causes error on reboot

2006-09-14 Thread Peter
On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 17:01:18 +, Peter wrote: this bug was also reported on gentoo wrt the newer baselayout. Indications are it may be a r4 issue, although no one seems to know why! http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144093 -- Peter + Do not reply to this email, it is a spam trap

Re: reiser4: mount -o remount,ro / causes error on reboot

2006-09-13 Thread Peter
On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 21:48:16 -0500, David Masover wrote: snip... Sorry to report this as an r4 bug, although it's interesting to note that the 1.12.4 baselayout did NOT cause this problem in reiserfs3.6 Mine was doubtlessly a Reiser4 bug, as it resulted in either an oops or a panic, I'm

Re: reiser4: mount -o remount,ro / causes error on reboot

2006-09-13 Thread Vladimir V. Saveliev
Hello On Wednesday 13 September 2006 01:10, Peter wrote: On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 17:01:18 +, Peter wrote: all snip... To Vladimir and David: This appears to be a nasty gentoo issue. After perusing the forums and bugzilla, it appears that we are not alone in having difficulties with the

Re: reiser4: mount -o remount,ro / causes error on reboot

2006-09-13 Thread Peter
On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 14:49:05 +0400, Vladimir V. Saveliev wrote: snip... I still think that the problem is in reiser4. When the system fails on boot it usually outputs something which may help to understand the problem. Do you see anything like that on faulty startups? You can use either

Re: reiser4: mount -o remount,ro / causes error on reboot

2006-09-13 Thread Peter
On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 14:49:05 +0400, Vladimir V. Saveliev wrote: all snip. Here is a screen shot I posted along with the bug report on this: http://bugs.gentoo.org/attachment.cgi?id=96874action=view . I am sorry the pic is a little blurred, but I had battery trouble. There are two segfaults

Re: reiser4: mount -o remount,ro / causes error on reboot

2006-09-12 Thread Peter
On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 17:01:18 +, Peter wrote: all snip... To Vladimir and David: This appears to be a nasty gentoo issue. After perusing the forums and bugzilla, it appears that we are not alone in having difficulties with the baselayout. Nonetheless, as the reporter did, I downgraded

Re: reiser4: mount -o remount,ro / causes error on reboot

2006-09-12 Thread Peter
On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 21:10:08 +, Peter wrote: On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 17:01:18 +, Peter wrote: all snip... To Vladimir and David: This appears to be a nasty gentoo issue. After perusing the forums and bugzilla, it appears that we are not alone in having difficulties with the

Re: reiser4: mount -o remount,ro / causes error on reboot

2006-09-11 Thread Peter
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 13:10:54 +0200, Sander Sweers wrote: snip... There was a bug in baselayout which caused partition (except /) not to remount ro properly. The bug number is 131001 [1], is this your problem? Greets Sander 1: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131001 Thank you, I

Re: reiser4: mount -o remount,ro / causes error on reboot

2006-09-11 Thread Peter
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 11:30:39 +0400, Vladimir V. Saveliev wrote: snip... Sorry, I am confused. In the first mail you said: On reboot or after a poweroff, root does not mount properly, and after some modules are loaded, there are segfaults when running init scripts. This looks like you have

Re: reiser4: mount -o remount,ro / causes error on reboot

2006-09-11 Thread Peter
On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 17:01:18 +, Peter wrote: Using: gentoo kernel 2.6.17.11 with beyond patchset reiser patch 2.6.17-3 reiser4progs 1.0.5 update... Transferring / to a reiser3 partition removes this problem. Shutdown and startup proceed normally. I am using util-linux-2.12r with gentoo

Re: reiser4: mount -o remount,ro / causes error on reboot

2006-09-10 Thread David Masover
Peter wrote: Using: gentoo kernel 2.6.17.11 with beyond patchset reiser patch 2.6.17-3 reiser4progs 1.0.5 At the end of the gentoo shutdown script is a short function which remounts / as ro. There's also one in the Gentoo startup script, which attempts to remount / ro, then remount it rw. I

Re: reiser4: mount -o remount,ro / causes error on reboot

2006-09-10 Thread Peter
On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 15:12:00 -0500, David Masover wrote: Peter wrote: Using: gentoo kernel 2.6.17.11 with beyond patchset reiser patch 2.6.17-3 reiser4progs 1.0.5 At the end of the gentoo shutdown script is a short function which remounts / as ro. There's also one in the Gentoo

Re: reiser4 corruption on initial copy

2006-09-05 Thread Vladimir V. Saveliev
hello On Monday 04 September 2006 18:32, Peter wrote: On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 11:02:58 +, Peter wrote: I recently copied over my / partition from a reiserfs to a reiser4 partition. This may be user error, but I wanted to report it anyway. Booting off a live cd- I did the following.

Re: reiser4 corruption on initial copy

2006-09-05 Thread Peter
On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 13:30:54 +0400, Vladimir V. Saveliev wrote: hello On Monday 04 September 2006 18:32, Peter wrote: On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 11:02:58 +, Peter wrote: I recently copied over my / partition from a reiserfs to a reiser4 partition. This may be user error, but I wanted to

Re: reiser4 corruption on initial copy

2006-09-04 Thread Peter
On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 11:02:58 +, Peter wrote: I recently copied over my / partition from a reiserfs to a reiser4 partition. This may be user error, but I wanted to report it anyway. Booting off a live cd- I did the following. snip... I was able to duplicate the problem. Apparently, the

Re: reiser4 corruption on initial copy

2006-09-02 Thread Peter
On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 17:35:29 -0500, David Masover wrote: Peter wrote: 2) I did run badblocks on the dest, and it was clean. 3) I am using the patch from 2.6.17.3 and in my kernel, I have full preempt and cfq scheduling. What about the kernel on the livecd? Anticipatory Voluntary Plus,

Re: reiser4 corruption on initial copy

2006-09-02 Thread David Masover
Peter wrote: On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 17:35:29 -0500, David Masover wrote: Peter wrote: 2) I did run badblocks on the dest, and it was clean. 3) I am using the patch from 2.6.17.3 and in my kernel, I have full preempt and cfq scheduling. What about the kernel on the livecd? Anticipatory

Re: reiser4 corruption on initial copy

2006-09-01 Thread Peter
On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 11:02:58 +, Peter wrote: # cd source partition # tar --one-file-system -cvf - | tar -C dest -xf - of course I had * for all files :) I also did the same with rsync -a /mnt/dest. I then thought perhaps the livecd did not properly unmount the local filesystems, so I

Re: reiser4 corruption on initial copy

2006-09-01 Thread David Masover
Peter wrote: 2) I did run badblocks on the dest, and it was clean. 3) I am using the patch from 2.6.17.3 and in my kernel, I have full preempt and cfq scheduling. What about the kernel on the livecd?

Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-31 Thread Clemens Eisserer
But speaking of single threadedness, more and more desktops are shipping with ridiculously more power than people need. Even a gamer really Will the LZO compression code in reiser4 be able to use multi-processor systems? E.g. if I've a Turion-X2 in my laptop will it use 2 threads for

Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-31 Thread Edward Shishkin
Clemens Eisserer wrote: But speaking of single threadedness, more and more desktops are shipping with ridiculously more power than people need. Even a gamer really Will the LZO compression code in reiser4 be able to use multi-processor systems? E.g. if I've a Turion-X2 in my laptop will it

Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-31 Thread Clemens Eisserer
Hi Edward, Thanks a lot for answering. Compression is going in flush time and there can be more then one flush thread that processes the same transaction atom. Decompression is going in the context of readpage/readpages. So if you mean per file, then yes for compression and no for

Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-31 Thread Hans Reiser
Edward Shishkin wrote: Clemens Eisserer wrote: But speaking of single threadedness, more and more desktops are shipping with ridiculously more power than people need. Even a gamer really Will the LZO compression code in reiser4 be able to use multi-processor systems? E.g. if I've a

Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-31 Thread Edward Shishkin
Hans Reiser wrote: Edward Shishkin wrote: Clemens Eisserer wrote: But speaking of single threadedness, more and more desktops are shipping with ridiculously more power than people need. Even a gamer really Will the LZO compression code in reiser4 be able to use multi-processor systems?

Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-31 Thread David Masover
Clemens Eisserer wrote: But speaking of single threadedness, more and more desktops are shipping with ridiculously more power than people need. Even a gamer really Will the LZO compression code in reiser4 be able to use multi-processor systems? Good point, but it wasn't what I was talking

Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-30 Thread David Masover
PFC wrote: Maybe, but Reiser4 is supposed to be a general purpose filesystem talking about its advantages/disadvantages wrt. gaming makes sense, I don't see a lot of gamers using Linux ;) There have to be some. Transgaming seems to still be making a successful business out of making

Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-30 Thread Edward Shishkin
PFC wrote: Maybe, but Reiser4 is supposed to be a general purpose filesystem talking about its advantages/disadvantages wrt. gaming makes sense, I don't see a lot of gamers using Linux ;) But yes, gaming is what pushes hardware development these days, at least on the desktop.

Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-30 Thread Hans Reiser
Edward Shishkin wrote: (Plain) file is considered as a set of logical clusters (64K by default). Minimal unit occupied in memory by (plain) file is one page. Compressed logical cluster is stored on disk in so-called disk clusters. Disk cluster is a set of special items (aka ctails, or

Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-29 Thread David Masover
Nigel Cunningham wrote: Hi. On Tue, 2006-08-29 at 06:05 +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote: Hmm. LZO is the best compression algorithm for the task as measured by the objectives of good compression effectiveness while still having very low CPU usage (the best of those written and GPL'd, there is a

Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-29 Thread Edward Shishkin
Nigel Cunningham wrote: Hi. On Mon, 2006-08-28 at 22:15 +0400, Edward Shishkin wrote: Stefan Traby wrote: On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 10:06:46AM -0700, Hans Reiser wrote: Hmm. LZO is the best compression algorithm for the task as measured by the objectives of good compression effectiveness

Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-29 Thread Nigel Cunningham
Hi. On Tue, 2006-08-29 at 03:23 -0500, David Masover wrote: Nigel Cunningham wrote: Hi. On Tue, 2006-08-29 at 06:05 +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote: Hmm. LZO is the best compression algorithm for the task as measured by the objectives of good compression effectiveness while still having

Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-29 Thread Ray Lee
On 8/29/06, Nigel Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. On Tue, 2006-08-29 at 03:23 -0500, David Masover wrote: Nigel Cunningham wrote: We used gzip when we first implemented compression support, and found it to be far too slow. Even with the fastest compression options, we were only

Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-29 Thread Edward Shishkin
Nigel Cunningham wrote: Hi. On Tue, 2006-08-29 at 03:23 -0500, David Masover wrote: Nigel Cunningham wrote: Hi. On Tue, 2006-08-29 at 06:05 +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote: Hmm. LZO is the best compression algorithm for the task as measured by the objectives of good compression

Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-29 Thread PFC
Would it be, by any chance, possible to tweak the thing so that reiserfs plugins become kernel modules, so that the reiserfs core can be put in the kernel without the plugins slowing down its acceptance ? (and updating plugins without rebooting would be a nice extra) The patch

Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-29 Thread Stefan Traby
On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 03:45:59PM +0200, PFC wrote: Anyone has a bench for lzf ? It's easy, try something like: wget http://www.goof.com/pcg/marc/data/liblzf-1.6.tar.gz tar zxvpf liblzf-1.6.tar.gz cd liblzf-1.6 configure make Now you have a small lzf binary that you can use for

Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-29 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On 8/29/06, PFC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone has a bench for lzf ? This is on a opteron 1.8GHz box. Everything tested hot cache. Testing on a fairly repetative but real test case (an SQL dump of one of the Wikipedia tables): -rw-rw-r-- 1 gmaxwell gmaxwell 426162134 Jul 20 06:54

Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-29 Thread PFC
I have made a little openoffice spreadsheet with the results. You can have fun entering stuff and seeing the results. http://peufeu.free.fr/compression.ods Basically, a laptop having the same processor as my PC and a crummy 15 MB/s drive (like most laptop drives) will get a

Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-29 Thread David Masover
PFC wrote: Would it be, by any chance, possible to tweak the thing so that reiserfs plugins become kernel modules, so that the reiserfs core can be put in the kernel without the plugins slowing down its acceptance ? I don't see what this has to do with cryptoapi plugins -- those are

Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-29 Thread Hans Reiser
PFC wrote: I made a little benchmark on my own PC (Athlon64 3200+ in 64 bit gentoo) http://peufeu.free.fr/compression.html So, gzip could be used on PCs having very fast processors and very slow harddrives, like Core Duo laptops. However, lzo compresses nearly as much and is

Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-29 Thread Hans Reiser
PFC, thanks for giving us some real data. May I post it to the lkml thread? In essence, LZO wins the benchmarks, and the code is hard to read. I guess I have to go with LZO, and encourage people to take a stab at dethroning it. Hans PFC wrote: I have made a little openoffice spreadsheet

Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-29 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On 8/29/06, David Masover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Conversely, compression does NOT make sense if: - You spend a lot of time with the CPU busy and the disk idle. - You have more than enough disk space. - Disk space is cheaper than buying enough CPU to handle compression. -

Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-29 Thread David Masover
Gregory Maxwell wrote: On 8/29/06, David Masover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Conversely, compression does NOT make sense if: - You spend a lot of time with the CPU busy and the disk idle. - You have more than enough disk space. - Disk space is cheaper than buying enough CPU to

Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-29 Thread Hans Reiser
David Masover wrote: John Carmack is pretty much the only superstar programmer in video games, and after his first fairly massive attempt to make Quake 3 have two threads (since he'd just gotten a dual-core machine to play with) actually resulted in the game running some 30-40% slower than

Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-29 Thread David Masover
Hans Reiser wrote: David Masover wrote: John Carmack is pretty much the only superstar programmer in video games, and after his first fairly massive attempt to make Quake 3 have two threads (since he'd just gotten a dual-core machine to play with) actually resulted in the game running some

Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-29 Thread Nigel Cunningham
Hi. On Tue, 2006-08-29 at 15:38 +0400, Edward Shishkin wrote: Nigel Cunningham wrote: Hi. On Tue, 2006-08-29 at 03:23 -0500, David Masover wrote: Nigel Cunningham wrote: Hi. On Tue, 2006-08-29 at 06:05 +0200, Jan Engelhardt wrote: Hmm. LZO is the best compression algorithm

Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-29 Thread Toby Thain
On 29-Aug-06, at 4:03 PM, David Masover wrote: Hans Reiser wrote: David Masover wrote: John Carmack is pretty much the only superstar programmer in video games, and after his first fairly massive attempt to make Quake 3 have two threads (since he'd just gotten a dual-core machine to play

Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-29 Thread David Masover
Toby Thain wrote: Gamer systems, whether from coder's or player's p.o.v., would appear fairly irrelevant to reiserfs and this list. I'd trust Carmack's eye candy credentials but doubt he has much to say about filesystems or server threading... Maybe, but Reiser4 is supposed to be a general

Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-28 Thread Jörn Engel
On Sun, 27 August 2006 01:04:28 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: Like lib/inflate.c (and this new code should arguably be in lib/). The problem is that if we clean this up, we've diverged very much from the upstream implementation. So taking in fixes and features from upstream becomes harder

Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-28 Thread Hans Reiser
Alexey Dobriyan wrote: Reiser4 developers, Andrew, The patch below is so-called reiser4 LZO compression plugin as extracted from 2.6.18-rc4-mm3. I think it is an unauditable piece of shit and thus should not enter mainline. Hmm. LZO is the best compression algorithm for the task as

Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-28 Thread Jindrich Makovicka
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 04:42:59 -0500 David Masover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Morton wrote: On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 04:34:26 +0400 Alexey Dobriyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The patch below is so-called reiser4 LZO compression plugin as extracted from 2.6.18-rc4-mm3. I think it is an

Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-28 Thread Stefan Traby
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 10:06:46AM -0700, Hans Reiser wrote: Hmm. LZO is the best compression algorithm for the task as measured by the objectives of good compression effectiveness while still having very low CPU usage (the best of those written and GPL'd, there is a slightly better one

Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-28 Thread Edward Shishkin
Jindrich Makovicka wrote: On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 04:42:59 -0500 David Masover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Morton wrote: On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 04:34:26 +0400 Alexey Dobriyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The patch below is so-called reiser4 LZO compression plugin as extracted from

Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-28 Thread Edward Shishkin
Stefan Traby wrote: On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 10:06:46AM -0700, Hans Reiser wrote: Hmm. LZO is the best compression algorithm for the task as measured by the objectives of good compression effectiveness while still having very low CPU usage (the best of those written and GPL'd, there is a

Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-28 Thread Nigel Cunningham
Hi. On Mon, 2006-08-28 at 22:15 +0400, Edward Shishkin wrote: Stefan Traby wrote: On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 10:06:46AM -0700, Hans Reiser wrote: Hmm. LZO is the best compression algorithm for the task as measured by the objectives of good compression effectiveness while still having

Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-28 Thread Hans Reiser
Nigel Cunningham wrote: For Suspend2, we ended up converting the LZF support to a cryptoapi plugin. Is there any chance that you could use cryptoapi modules? We could then have a hope of sharing the support It is in principle a good idea, and I hope we will be able to say yes. However, I have

Re: Reiser4 und LZO compression

2006-08-28 Thread Jan Engelhardt
Hmm. LZO is the best compression algorithm for the task as measured by the objectives of good compression effectiveness while still having very low CPU usage (the best of those written and GPL'd, there is a slightly better one which is proprietary and uses more CPU, LZRW if I remember right.

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