[Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-12-20 Thread Cort Buffington
Repeater Builders, I pose to you all a question. I have two UHF duplexers, both 4 cavity pass-reject. One is a Wacom (the ubiquitous 3U rackmount guy) and the other is from a Motorola MSR2000. I have really poor equipment, and don't necessarily "trust" manufacturer specs. Anybody have an opi

[Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-12-20 Thread w7hsg
Looking for factory alignment for the following Telwave TPRD 1554 Wacom WP655-R2 Ralph, W7HSG --- Begin Message --- Check out COMTELCO antennas, they are on the web at www.comtelcoantennas.com  I have many of them in service with 100% results. They are equa

[Repeater-Builder] duplexers

2008-01-24 Thread ua3ahm
I wish to take an interest at American HAM's how much actually now to sell new duplexers in the USA. My company makes antennas and duplexers for a professional radio communication. Your opinion interests, I was not late for 20 years?) Evgeny, IK-Telecom

[Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-08-24 Thread dallasreact112
Anyone one know what to expect SWR wise with a duplexer? I have a DB products 2 meter duplexer on an amateur repeater. Measuring with a Bird wattmeter between the duplexer and antenna I read 50W forward and a couple watts reverse. That is ok. But when I check between the transmitter and the TX port

[Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-09-24 Thread mung
I am having some receive problems on my repeater and I am thinking that it might be desense. I am on 2M running a MASRII repeater with a Decibal Products band reject 6 can duplexer. While I can key the repeater from a pretty good distance the audio that makes it through the repeater drops off

[Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2008-10-27 Thread Mung Bungholio
Is it OK to get some kind of storage container or something like that and put my duplexer outside? What would be the risks of doing so? I am in Florida so lots of rain and heat but no freezing months or anything like that? Thanks, Vern KI4ONW

[Repeater-Builder] duplexers

2004-03-15 Thread David Schornak
has anyone or does anyone know where tofind the math formulas to help you design a set of cavities for a duplexer? I have been looking on the web and in the arrl handbook and the big book of antennas, and todate I have found plans for 2 meter duplexers. I have yet to find any place where they show

[Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2004-10-23 Thread KB7RSI
Title: Duplexers Hey guys and gals. First time poster here. Just wondering if anyone has a set of duplexers with notch for 2M that they have hanging around and would like to get rid of? Please let me know directly @ [EMAIL PROTECTED] I really do appreciate it. Thanks Harold kb7rsi Las Vega

[Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2005-01-27 Thread Richard D. Reese
Dave;   Sorry about that.  The two meter one is a 28-37-02 and the specifications are:   Frequency Range : 144-174 MHz Minimum T-R Separation : 0.5 MHz Tx Insertion Loss : 1.5 dB Rx

[Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2010-08-30 Thread Mackey
Our club was recently given a 220 repeater. We have two seperate antennas. We do not have a duplexer. My question is do we have to have a duplexer? How can we keep the transmitter from desensitizing the receiver? The antennas are apart but can be moved farther. Thanks Chris Kg4bek

[Repeater-Builder] Duplexers Question

2004-01-01 Thread Bob
any way to tune duplexers without a scope or monitor ? Bobby/N2BR Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: ht

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-12-20 Thread Eric Lemmon
: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers Looking for factory alignment for the following Telwave TPRD 1554 Wacom WP655-R2 Ralph, W7HSG

Re: [Repeater-Builder] duplexers

2008-01-24 Thread Jack Hayes
Are you seeking U.S. distribution? Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] directly. Thanks ua3ahm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I wish to take an interest at American HAM's how much actually now to sell new duplexers in the USA. My company makes antennas and duplexers fo

[Repeater-Builder] Duplexers vhf

2008-09-13 Thread gervais
hi all i have 3 little duplexers sinclair sd-220 rx 152.660 tx 157.950 if someone is interested send me an email direct please 73/s make me an offer will see,i dont need them as their GE radio connected too. gervais ve2ckn

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-08-24 Thread Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D)
Generally the duplexer only makes a slight contribution to the reflected power. How doe the reflected power between the transmitter and antenna, without the duplexer in line look? Steve NU5D dallasreact112 wrote: > Anyone one know what to expect SWR wise with a duplexer? > I have a DB products

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-08-24 Thread Captainlance
If the duplexer is correctly tuned, there will be NO measurable SWR into it. If you have 25/60 watts, it is way off frequency. - Original Message - From: dallasreact112 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 7:16 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-08-24 Thread rfd rfd
>From the Dup. to the Ant. is ok. But the Dup. is out of tune or no good. Might >even be a bad jumper on the Dup. dallasreact112 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Anyone one know what to expect SWR wise with a duplexer? I have a DB products 2 meter duplexer on an amateur repeater. Measuring with a Bi

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-08-24 Thread Ron Wright
epeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers > >Anyone one know what to expect SWR wise with a duplexer? >I have a DB products 2 meter duplexer on an amateur repeater. >Measuring with a Bird wattmeter between the duplexer and antenna I >read 50W f

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-08-24 Thread Eric Lemmon
hould see about 59 watts going to the antenna. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dallasreact112 Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 5:16 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Bu

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-08-24 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- Eric Lemmon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bernie, > > When you put the Bird between the TX and the > duplexer, you have changed the > length of the jumper cable, which upset the tuning. > But, really, you need > not worry about what the SWR is, if the forward > power to the antenna is > appr

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-08-24 Thread Jeff DePolo
> When you put the Bird between the TX and the duplexer, you > have changed the > length of the jumper cable, which upset the tuning. Adding a wattmeter or any other length of cable between the transmitter and the duplexer Tx input port has no effect on the tuning of the duplexer. It may chang

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-08-24 Thread Eric Lemmon
--Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff DePolo Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 9:30 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers > When you put the Bird between the TX and the duplexer, you >

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-08-25 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- Jeff DePolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > When you put the Bird between the TX and the > duplexer, you > > have changed the > > length of the jumper cable, which upset the > tuning. > > Adding a wattmeter or any other length of cable > between the transmitter and > the duplexer Tx input

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-08-25 Thread Jesse Lloyd
Ya you should be able to trim your coax so the transmitter "sees" 50 ohms, which should be every 1/2 wave. All this does it protect the transmitter, the standing waves are still there, they just gets dissipated/radiated by the coax. Also with cans usually, if I have enough time on my hands, I tun

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-08-26 Thread Jeff DePolo
> Ya you should be able to trim your coax so the transmitter > "sees" 50 ohms, which should be every 1/2 wave. All this > does it protect the transmitter, the standing waves are still > there, they just gets dissipated/radiated by the coax. No, no, no, no, no (thumping head on desk). If the V

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-08-26 Thread Jeff DePolo
> Jeff you have just made two statements that are the > exect opposit of each other. If changing the length > of cable makes a differance, then the swr as seen by > the transmitter must change. Re-read what I said. Changing the cable length changes the *Z*, but it doesn't change the *VSWR*. As

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-08-27 Thread R. K. Brumback
12:30 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers > When you put the Bird between the TX and the duplexer, you > have changed the > length of the jumper cable, which upset the tuning. Adding a wattmeter or any other length of cable between the tr

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-08-27 Thread Jesse Lloyd
n Behalf Of *Jeff DePolo > *Sent:* Saturday, August 25, 2007 12:30 AM > *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers > > > > > When you put the Bird between the TX and the duplexer, you > > have changed the > > length of

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-08-27 Thread n9wys
One can also use 1/4- and 1/2- λ stubs of coaxial cable of the same impedance as matching networks in conjunction with a "Tee" connector. "Shorting" or "Opening" the end of the matching stub also makes a difference, based upon the length being employed. I believe that VSWR is *one* reason that cab

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-08-27 Thread R. K. Brumback
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 12:48 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers The length of coax doesn't effect impedance. Trimming the coax effects what is read on the VSWR meter because what is actually happening is that there is an interference pa

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-08-27 Thread n9wys
Lloyd Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 12:48 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers The length of coax doesn't effect impedance. Trimming the coax effects what is read on the VSWR meter because what is actually happening is that there is an interference pattern

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-08-27 Thread Jeff DePolo
> The length of coax doesn't effect impedance. That statement is misleading, if not totally wrong. If there is anything other than a perfect match at the load (in other words, if the VSWR on the line is not a perfect 1:1), the coax behaves as a transformer. The resulting Z, as measured at the

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-08-27 Thread Jeff DePolo
> I have heard this point argued for years. "Does trimming the > coax affect the SWR?" The answer is NO!! > If the length of coax has an affect on > impedance, then how could it not affect power out? Changing the length of the line changes IMPEDANCE at the source end (assuming the VSWR

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-08-27 Thread Nate Duehr
As a side note for this discussion, I think Jeff's doing a great job of explaining how transmission line theory works... For those that want to dive in a lot further (e.g. Do the math), the ARRL Antenna Book has a whole section dedicated to this topic, and it's written well enough that a mathem

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-08-27 Thread Jeff DePolo
> As a side note for this discussion, I think Jeff's doing a > great job of > explaining how transmission line theory works... I try... > For those that want to dive in a lot further (e.g. Do the math), the > ARRL Antenna Book has a whole section dedicated to this > topic, and it's > writte

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-08-27 Thread Gary Schafer
ugust 27, 2007 11:48 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers The length of coax doesn't effect impedance. Trimming the coax effects what is read on the VSWR meter because what is actually happening is that there is an interference pattern created

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-08-27 Thread Jesse Lloyd
gt; > 73 > > Gary K4FMX > > > > > -- > > *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Jesse Lloyd > *Sent:* Monday, August 27, 2007 11:48 AM > *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > *Subject:*

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-08-27 Thread Gary Schafer
_ From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jesse Lloyd Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 9:39 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers If your coax is the same impedance as your transmitter, but different

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-08-28 Thread Jeff DePolo
> If your coax is the same impedance as your transmitter, but > different than your load, can it still be a transformer > though? It will ALWAYS act as a transformer when the cable's Z does not match the LOAD Z. The SOURCE device (transmitter) plays NO part in the transformation that happens.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-08-28 Thread Nate Duehr
Jeff DePolo wrote: > NO. VSWR on a transmission line doesn't directly manifest as "heat" in a > transmitter. The whole notion of high VSWR creating heat in a transmitter > is likely based on a drop in efficiency in SOME transmitters when they are > not properly matched to the feedline. Or wor

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-08-28 Thread no6b
At 8/27/2007 20:52, you wrote: >Yes your right VSWR is the ratio between Vmax and Vmin, node and anodes, >of the interference pattern caused by standing waves. Even still there is >a point where the voltage is at a minimum on the line. What happens if >that point is at the transmitters output

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-08-29 Thread Jeff DePolo
> >It doesn t matter where the min and max are on the line. The > same amount > >of reflected power will be seen at any point. Reflected > power does NOT get > >back into the transmitter. It gets re-reflected back towards > the antenna > >when it reaches the transmitter circuits. > > I don't

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-08-29 Thread Gary Schafer
> -Original Message- > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:54 PM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers > >

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-08-30 Thread Bob Dengler
At 8/29/2007 06:40 PM, you wrote: > > >If you have two watt meters and an antenna matching device you can put > > one > > >wattmeter between the transmitter and the matching device and tune it for > > >minimum reflected power on the first meter. Then with a second meter > > >between the tuner and

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-08-30 Thread Gary Schafer
> -Original Message- > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Repeater- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Dengler > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 12:53 PM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers > > At 8/29/

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-09-04 Thread tsoliver
> >Adding or removing cable lengths between the transmitter and duplexer also >does not change the VSWR as seen by the transmitter (minimal cable loss >effects notwithstanding). > > --- Jeff > > > True but only if everything (tx out, cable and duplexer) is

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-09-04 Thread Milt
be a cable problem. Milt N3LTQ - Original Message - From: "Eric Lemmon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 1:38 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers > My statement regarding "tuning" did not explicitly refer to the actual > t

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-09-04 Thread Jeff DePolo
> >Adding or removing cable lengths between the transmitter and > duplexer also > >does not change the VSWR as seen by the transmitter (minimal > cable loss > >effects notwithstanding). > > > > --- Jeff > True but only if everything (tx out, cable and duplex

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-09-24 Thread Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D)
Time for an isolated TEE test with a dummy load. Why did you have the duplexers tuned ? Was there a problem prior? You should be able to split the duplexer without any trouble - just mark things so you can go back as it was. Best luck and 73, Steve NU5D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I am having

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-09-24 Thread Doug Bade
I would be quite surprised if you are NOT having desense with a Mastr II and a 6 can notch only duplexer at 600 khz Typically a 6 can reject only duplexer is not sufficient isolation at 600khz for 2 meters with a solid state PA.. Vertical separation or a pass/reject duplexer will be needed.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-09-24 Thread mung
I had them tuned because I had just bought them and didn't really trust that they were right. They were very far out so it's good that I got them tuned. I was having the same problem as now though very poor receive. Right now I have a radio on there for receive that was getting about 30 mil

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-09-24 Thread Eric Lemmon
al Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 7:02 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers I am having some receive problems on my repeater and I am thinking tha

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-09-24 Thread Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D)
Decibel did make a 6 cavity notch duplexer - 4" full sized cavities - that would work nicely on a 110 Watt M2 station @ 600 kHz. Isolated TEE test into a dummy load - how bad is the receiver desense ? If you don't have some test equipment - signal gen, dummy load, and a TEE fitting with the sid

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-09-25 Thread Jim Brown
Our local club recently installed a 2 meter repeater on a water tank adjacent to a cell site. Two cell towers are serviced by four buildings housing equipement, and we are having some desense due to noise pickup on the antenna. Running an iso-tee we found that our GE Mastr II receiver with GE

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-09-25 Thread mung
The duplexer is a DB-4048. I have had this repeater for a couple of months and it has always had problems. I don't have access to a service monitor or anything like that right now but I have a friend that has one however someone is borrowing it right now. From what I can tell the desense is

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-09-25 Thread Glenn Shaw
Of Jim Brown Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 8:20 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers Our local club recently installed a 2 meter repeater on a water tank adjacent to a cell site. Two cell towers are serviced by four buildings housing equipement

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-09-25 Thread no6b
At 9/25/2007 05:20, you wrote: >Our local club recently installed a 2 meter repeater on a water tank >adjacent to a cell site. Two cell towers are serviced by four buildings >housing equipement, and we are having some desense due to noise pickup on >the antenna. Running an iso-tee we found th

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-09-25 Thread Mark Miller
>The noise floor is really decreasing the utility of the new >repeater. The noise source seems to come and go as a quiet signal >on the repeater input can become suddenly noisey, and vice versa - a >noisey signal can become suddenly quiet. It looks like you have a 10dB degradation. Many time

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-09-25 Thread Mark Miller
The 10dBd Yagi I mentioned is for 900MHz, something smaller would have to be used for VHF :) 73, Mark N5RFX

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-09-25 Thread no6b
At 9/25/2007 07:59, you wrote: > >The noise floor is really decreasing the utility of the new > >repeater. The noise source seems to come and go as a quiet signal > >on the repeater input can become suddenly noisey, and vice versa - a > >noisey signal can become suddenly quiet. > >It looks like y

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-09-25 Thread Nate Duehr
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I had them tuned because I had just bought them and didn't > really trust that they were right. They were very far out > so it's good that I got them tuned. I was having the same > problem as now though very poor receive. Right now I have > a radio on there for rec

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-09-26 Thread mung
Thanks for the great info as soon as we get the service monitor back we are going to try these things. I have already seperated the 2 sides and have seen much improvement so I think that this is really my problem. I do have a question about duplexers in general. I am sure that this is a dumb

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-09-26 Thread Steve S. Bosshard (NU5D)
A transmitter may have broadband noise with considerable noise content at the receive frequency. The notch in the transmit side removes transmitter noise that may impair your receiver's capability. In an earlier post there was mention of a solid state transmitter. Traditionally tube transmit

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-09-26 Thread Mark Miller
At 11:12 AM 9/26/2007, Steve wrote: >A transmitter may have broadband noise with considerable noise content >at the receive frequency. The notch in the transmit side removes >transmitter noise that may impair your receiver's capability. In my day job 99% of the problems I have with noise floor is

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2007-09-27 Thread mung
This makes sense. I guess what might help is to find a single VHF bandpass can to put in front of the receive side of the duplexer. How much does the power output effect the required filter attinuation? Right now I am running about 70w out would turning it down make much of a difference? Fro

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2008-10-27 Thread David Piche
is all relative. --- On Mon, 10/27/08, Mung Bungholio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Mung Bungholio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, October 27, 2008, 9:14 AM Is it OK to get some kind of storage container

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2008-10-27 Thread Mung Bungholio
ubject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers I would think that at the least you would want to build a small building, even something close to a large dog house, 3'D X 4'W x 4'H. Leaves at least a little room to breath and work around, heat may be a factor depending on the cans yo

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2008-10-27 Thread Scott Zimmerman
wally-world was around $100 or so. Scott Scott Zimmerman Amateur Radio Call N3XCC 474 Barnett Rd Boswell, PA 15531 - Original Message - From: Mung Bungholio To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 10:40 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Dupl

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2008-10-27 Thread David Piche
Yes I agree, something designed to be out in the elements a bit more. From: Scott Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 10:59:24 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers I often thought

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2008-10-27 Thread Mung Bungholio
That is what I was thinking of too. From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Zimmerman Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 10:59 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers I often thought about using a Rubbermaid

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2008-10-27 Thread Mung Bungholio
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Zimmerman Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 10:59 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers I often thought about using a Rubbermaid product. Here is a deck box: Rubbermaid item #3743 or a vertical

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2008-10-27 Thread Paul Plack
ey sell high-dollar NEMA cabinets with their own air conditioners, but they probably won't sell one to me! 73, Paul, AE4KR - Original Message - From: Mung Bungholio To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 7:14 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] D

RE: [Repeater-Builder] duplexers

2004-03-15 Thread Steve Bosshard
I have it on good advice from Lloyd Alcorn at Wacom Products (RIP Wacom) that Black Magic is involved. Steve In a nutshell, the cavities are either 1/4 or 3/4 wavelength with coupling loops oriented for a particular degree of coupling, and also the length affects coupling. Some cavities use 2 lo

Re: [Repeater-Builder] duplexers

2004-03-16 Thread N6KYD
March 15, 2004 2:42 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] duplexers > I have it on good advice from Lloyd Alcorn at Wacom Products (RIP Wacom) > that Black Magic is involved. > > Steve > > In a nutshell, the cavities are either 1/4 or 3/4 wavelength with > coupling loops oriente

Re: [Repeater-Builder] duplexers

2004-03-16 Thread Chuck Kelsey
From: "David Schornak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 5:25 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] duplexers > has anyone or does anyone know where tofind the math formulas to help you > design a set of cavities for a duplexer? I have been looking on the web and >

Re: [Repeater-Builder] duplexers

2004-03-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/~g4kqu/gb3dx_photos.htm - Original Message - From: "David Schornak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 4:25 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] duplexers has anyone or does anyone know where tofind the math formulas to help you design a set of cavities f

Re: [Repeater-Builder] duplexers

2004-03-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Found this site too: http://www.amalgamate2000.com/radio-hobbies/radio/coaxial_resonators.htm - Original Message - From: "David Schornak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 4:25 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] duplexers has anyone or does anyone k

RE: [Repeater-Builder] duplexers

2004-03-16 Thread Steve S. Bosshard \(NU5D\)
I suspect when you add the coupling loop length that the interstage cables will be on the order of 3/4 wave length, or around 10" or so. I ran into the 3/4 wavelength business taking some 10" Sinclair VHF cavities, and building a 5 channel UHF combiner with cavities and dual junction isolators. S

Re: [Repeater-Builder] duplexers

2004-03-16 Thread David Schornak
Steve I am beginning to believe that with as much info as I have found. > I have it on good advice from Lloyd Alcorn at Wacom Products (RIP Wacom) > that Black Magic is involved. > > Steve > > In a nutshell, the cavities are either 1/4 or 3/4 wavelength with > coupling loops oriented for a parti

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2010-08-30 Thread Eric Lemmon
- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mackey Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 4:44 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers Our club was recently given a 220 repeater. We have two seperate antennas.

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2010-08-30 Thread CMcClellan
eater-buil...@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com) Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers Our club was recently given a 220 repeater. We have two seperate antennas. We do not have a duplexer. My question is do we have to have a duplexer? How can we keep the transmitter from desensi

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2010-08-30 Thread Rick Szajkowski
vity of the receiver. The receiver bandwidth and antenna types also > play a factor. > > 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY > > > -Original Message- > From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of Mackey > Sent: Monday,

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2010-08-30 Thread Paul Plack
other pursuits. Good luck! 73, Paul, AE4KR - Original Message - From: cmcclel...@aol.com To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers Thank you for your response. The problem is that the rep

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2010-08-30 Thread Eric Lemmon
: 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of cmcclel...@aol.com Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 5:45 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers Thank you for

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2010-08-30 Thread ka9qjg
Since We are on the Topic of Duplexers, And some claim there is no such thing as a Dumb Question but at the Risk of Asking one I will take a chance , I have the Wacom 4 can on My 220 System, The Question I have in a non controlled environment such as No Heat or Air Will the Duplex

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2010-08-30 Thread Mike Morris
r@yahoogroups.com >[mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mackey >Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 4:44 PM >To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers > > > >Our club was recently given a 220 repeater. We have two seperate antenn

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2010-08-31 Thread ka9qjg
Wow this must of Really been a Dumb question , No one answered it Don KA9QJG From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ka9qjg Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 9:07 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2010-08-31 Thread Chuck Kelsey
No problem. Most are in non-climate controlled environments. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: ka9qjg To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 1:42 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers Wow this must of Really been a Dumb

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2010-08-31 Thread DCFluX
peater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers > > > > > > Since We are on the Topic of Duplexers, And some claim there is no such > thing as a Dumb Question but at the Risk of Asking one I will take a > chance , I have the Wacom 4 can on M

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2010-08-31 Thread mwbesemer
eater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ka9qjg Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 9:07 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers Since We are on the Topic of Duplexers, And some claim there is no such thing as a Dumb Question but at the Risk of Asking one I will take

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2010-08-31 Thread ka9qjg
@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers I have a set of Wacoms on 2-meters in a totally uncompensated shack, running from the teens in the winter to probably 150 in the summer. I've never had an issued. I have another set in a similar shack, but it it air condition

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2010-08-31 Thread Chris Fowler
; Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 9:07 PM > To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers > > > > > > > Since We are on the Topic of Duplexers, And some claim there is no > such thing as a Dumb Question but at the Risk of Aski

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2010-08-31 Thread mwbesemer
nt: Monday, August 30, 2010 9:07 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers Since We are on the Topic of Duplexers, And some claim there is no such thing as a Dumb Question but at the Risk of Asking one I will take a chance , I have the Waco

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2010-08-31 Thread mwbesemer
owler" < k...@k4fh.com > To: < Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Cc: "ka9qjg" < ka9...@wowway.com > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 11:08 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers For there to be condensation there must be humidity in the air. The more hu

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2010-08-31 Thread Ralph Mowery
31, 2010 1:42:32 PM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers Wow this must of Really been a Dumb question  , No one  answered it   Don KA9QJG   From:Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto:repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ka9qjg Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 9:07 PM To

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2010-08-31 Thread Joe
I've never had a problem. I would say that if the duplexers are out of tune on the transmit side there is a possibility that they might get hot, then cool off. This may cause them to take in moist air and cause condensation. I've never seen it happen, but I can see how it could. 73, Jow, K

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2010-08-31 Thread Ross Johnson
Of Mackey Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 4:44 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers Our club was recently given a 220 repeater. We have two seperate antennas. We do not have a duplexer. My question is do we have to have a duplexer? How can we keep the transm

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2010-08-31 Thread Rick Szajkowski
, No one answered it > > > > Don KA9QJG > > > > *From:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com [mailto: > repeater-buil...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *ka9qjg > *Sent:* Monday, August 30, 2010 9:07 PM > > *To:* Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* RE: [Repeate

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2010-08-31 Thread Rick Szajkowski
t; > > - Original Message - > From: "Chris Fowler" > > To: > > > Cc: "ka9qjg" > > Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 11:08 AM > Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers > > > For there to be condensation there must be humidity in th

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

2010-08-31 Thread Paul Plack
ink I'd rather err on the side of staying a little warm in a repeater shack, within reason. 73, Paul, AE4KR - Original Message - From: ka9qjg To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 11:42 AM Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Duplexers

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