In the maple 13 thread, someone mentioned graph editor done in java
script that can be added to SAGE for interactive playing around with
small graphs. Since I recently came across the port of Processing to
JavaScript ( http://processingjs.org ), I decided to see how hard it
would be to implement
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Rado rki...@gmail.com wrote:
In the maple 13 thread, someone mentioned graph editor done in java
script that can be added to SAGE for interactive playing around with
small graphs. Since I recently came across the port of Processing to
JavaScript (
Dear developers,
I am about to create an spkg which I hope may be optional one day. Its
purpose is the computation of modular cohomology rings of finite p-
groups (and may also include a database of the results for many
groups, but first I want to be able to create it without the
database).
The
On Apr 30, 1:06 am, Simon King simon.k...@uni-jena.de wrote:
Dear developers,
I am about to create an spkg which I hope may be optional one day. Its
purpose is the computation of modular cohomology rings of finite p-
groups (and may also include a database of the results for many
groups,
Dear Michael,
On Apr 30, 10:17 am, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote:
...
- It comprises some Singular libraries. Where would Singular look for
them? In $(SAGE_ROOT)/local/lib/ ? At least there seem to be some
standard Singular libraries in that folder.
Those files will move. Having
(it seems that my attempt to answer didn't work; sorry if it is a
double post)
Hi Michael,
thank you!
On Apr 30, 10:17 am, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote:
...
Those files will move. Having lib files in $SAGE_LOCAL/lib sucks for
various reasons. There will be some env variable where
I've tried to build Sage 3.4.2-alpha0 on my Solaris SPARC and found the
second problem I hit was the failure of singular-3-0-4-4-20080711.p4 to
build. (The first was the hard-coded paths in the tool chain, which has
been resolved now, by editing the files in the tool chain).
There is a line
On Apr 30, 3:41 am, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net
wrote:
I've tried to build Sage 3.4.2-alpha0 on my Solaris SPARC and found the
second problem I hit was the failure of singular-3-0-4-4-20080711.p4 to
build. (The first was the hard-coded paths in the tool chain, which has
been
Hi!
I also have one .sobj-file that my module loads, and several files
that I read with Gap. I somehow feel that it would be polluting to put
everything into $SAGE_LOCAL/lib. But is there a better place?
Thank you,
Simon
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Hello folks,
here goes 3.4.2.rc0 - a little later than planned, but it seems like
we fixed all the issues (and more) that needed to be fixed. We finally
merged the symbolic logic code written well over *18* months ago, but
no doctests, no merge is something we take seriously. On top of that
we
People might be interested in this article:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/apr/30/sun-oracle-openoffice
especially the part about user support in the penultimate paragraph.
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On Apr 25, 11:43 am, David Joyner wdjoy...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi:
I just started preparing for a talk next Friday in an
NSF workshop on Future Directions of Computaton
Research in the Symbolic Software Design section. Therefore,
I think I should say something about the work on pynac
and
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 7:43 AM, rjf fate...@gmail.com wrote:
On Apr 25, 11:43 am, David Joyner wdjoy...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi:
I just started preparing for a talk next Friday in an
NSF workshop on Future Directions of Computaton
Research in the Symbolic Software Design section. Therefore,
William Stein wrote:
The fact is that bugs are found via
experimentation, not by reading source code.
This is not a fact!I have a lot of experience finding and seeing
bugs found, and I can tell you in no uncertain terms that a huge
number of the bugs found in Sage are in fact found by
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 5:28 AM, John Cremona john.crem...@gmail.com wrote:
People might be interested in this article:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/apr/30/sun-oracle-openoffice
especially the part about user support in the penultimate paragraph.
I don't really follow the
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:05 AM, Rado rki...@gmail.com wrote:
In the maple 13 thread, someone mentioned graph editor done in java
script that can be added to SAGE for interactive playing around with
small graphs. Since I recently came across the port of Processing to
JavaScript (
I wonder if GraphViz is part of sage. I thought it was
specially designed for visualizing graphs.
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On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Michel michel.vandenbe...@uhasselt.be wrote:
I wonder if GraphViz is part of sage. I thought it was
specially designed for visualizing graphs.
1) GraphViz doesn't work as a web application (via a web browser).
2) GraphViz cannot be included in Sage because it
That's too bad. I knew GraphViz was open source. I didn't know
they chose a GPL incompatible license.
Michel
On Apr 30, 6:06 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Michel michel.vandenbe...@uhasselt.be
wrote:
I wonder if GraphViz is part of sage. I
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Michel michel.vandenbe...@uhasselt.be wrote:
That's too bad. I knew GraphViz was open source. I didn't know
they chose a GPL incompatible license.
Michel
It couldn't hurt for you to write to them and complain.
William
On Apr 30, 6:06 pm, William Stein
rjf wrote:
I don't know what your experience has been in Sage, but the idea that
many eyes make all bugs shallow may not apply in a case where only one
or two people have the understanding to write or read a program
regardless of how nice the language is.
At the same time, opening up the
Unless I Save and Quit *all* running notebook pages, opening a new
worksheet will always open one of the existing worksheets instead of
creating a new one. This happens in the Google Chrome browser. I have
not tried to replicate it with any other browser. So far everything
else works just fine in
This is a known issue which should be fixed in 3.4.2.
Bill.
On 30 Apr, 18:17, Chris Godsil cgod...@uwaterloo.ca wrote:
I could not compile sage-3.4.1 on my Mac (2 quad-core xeon running OS
X 10.5.6). I have
attached the final part of install.txt.
The binary for sage-3.4.0 is working fine,
On Apr 29, 1:37 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 9:51 AM, mark mcclure mcmcc...@unca.edu wrote:
I think, though, that the statement that you need open source in order
to have verifiable results is not really true. The fact is that bugs are
found via
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:06 AM, mark mcclure mcmcc...@unca.edu wrote:
On Apr 29, 1:37 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 9:51 AM, mark mcclure mcmcc...@unca.edu wrote:
I think, though, that the statement that you need open source in order
to have
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 07:46:50AM -0700, kcrisman wrote:
See #5438 (just a rebase of a positive review) and #5933 (doctests in
primes.py) for other examples of this. I believe there might be a few
other documentation-only patches as well in trac, though perhaps some
have already been
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 08:50:50AM -0700, William Stein wrote:
Just for the record, I hate when there is a looming patch over
months of time whose main impact on Sage is to keep the rest of Sage
from improving in quality. For example, with Bill Furnish working on
symoblic for months, the
Jaap Spies wrote:
Still waiting for a fresh install (and test) on Fedora 10, 32 bits.
As a follow up: Fedora 10, 32 bits, fresh install:
./sage -t devel/sage/sage/matrix/matrix_symbolic_dense.pyx
sage -t devel/sage/sage/matrix/matrix_symbolic_dense.pyx
*** *** Error: TIMED OUT! PROCESS
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Nicolas M. Thiery
nicolas.thi...@u-psud.fr wrote:
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 08:50:50AM -0700, William Stein wrote:
Just for the record, I hate when there is a looming patch over
months of time whose main impact on Sage is to keep the rest of Sage
from
On Apr 30, 12:05 am, Rado rki...@gmail.com wrote:
I decided to see how hard it
would be to implement that.
Hi Rado,
Very nice! This is a Beautiful Thing. ;-) I've built a couple of
programs in the past that would link a graph editor to computational
routines to allow one to experiment with
I also think that an interactive graph editor would be a very cool feature.
Perhaps a good project to work on at Sage Days 15?
David
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Rob Beezer goo...@beezer.cotse.net wrote:
On Apr 30, 12:05 am, Rado rki...@gmail.com wrote:
I decided to see how hard it
On Apr 25, 8:39 am, Nicolas M. Thiery nicolas.thi...@u-psud.fr
wrote:
SNIP
Hi Nicolas,
Before posting the patch to trac, I'll split it up into:
- patch with all trivial import updates (the most invasive one)
- main patch with the category framework (with updates to
On Apr 30, 1:37 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Nicolas M. Thiery
nicolas.thi...@u-psud.fr wrote:
Hi Nicolas,
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 08:50:50AM -0700, William Stein wrote:
Just for the record, I hate when there is a looming patch over
Thanks for the positive feedback. I fixed the redraw bug in Processing
JS, so now it redraws only when something is moved (no more CPU
drainage).
I will try to work a bit this weekend on the user-interface. I see
some great suggestions by Rob, that are straight-forward to implement.
I don't do
sage 3.4.2-rc0 fails to install for me on a unbuntu 8.10 VM, failing
with:
python-2.5.2.p9/src/Modules/cjkcodecs/_codecs_jp.c
python-2.5.2.p9/src/Modules/cjkcodecs/mappings_cn.h
Finished extraction
chmod: changing permissions of `spkg-install': Operation not permitted
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Kevin Horton khorto...@rogers.com wrote:
sage 3.4.2-rc0 fails to install for me on a unbuntu 8.10 VM, failing
with:
Precisely what filesystem are you using? ext3? reiserfs? afs?
python-2.5.2.p9/src/Modules/cjkcodecs/_codecs_jp.c
On Apr 30, 3:54 pm, Kevin Horton khorto...@rogers.com wrote:
sage 3.4.2-rc0 fails to install for me on a unbuntu 8.10 VM, failing
with:
SNIP
cp: cannot create regular file `src/Lib/ctypes/__init__.py': No such
file or directory
Error copying patched ctypes
If I would have to guess
On 30 Apr 2009, at 19:38, mabshoff wrote:
On Apr 30, 3:54 pm, Kevin Horton khorto...@rogers.com wrote:
sage 3.4.2-rc0 fails to install for me on a unbuntu 8.10 VM, failing
with:
SNIP
cp: cannot create regular file `src/Lib/ctypes/__init__.py': No such
file or directory
Error copying
Stupid question - why does sage use uncompressed tarballs, instead of
something like .tgz. I think a corrupted .tgz couldn't be expanded,
and they would download quicker too.
Almost everything in that tarball is already bz2 compressed (all of
the .spkg files) so that there is no benefit in
On 30 Apr 2009, at 20:15, Mike Hansen wrote:
Stupid question - why does sage use uncompressed tarballs, instead of
something like .tgz. I think a corrupted .tgz couldn't be expanded,
and they would download quicker too.
Almost everything in that tarball is already bz2 compressed (all of
On Apr 30, 5:27 pm, Kevin Horton khorto...@rogers.com wrote:
On 30 Apr 2009, at 20:15, Mike Hansen wrote:
Stupid question - why does sage use uncompressed tarballs, instead of
something like .tgz. I think a corrupted .tgz couldn't be expanded,
and they would download quicker too.
On 30 Apr 2009, at 20:40, mabshoff wrote:
On Apr 30, 5:27 pm, Kevin Horton khorto...@rogers.com wrote:
Where does one find the MD5 of the tarball, so one can confirm the
tarball is good before starting to compile sage?
They are not automatically generated, so I tend to post them only
On Apr 30, 2009, at 17:10 , Kevin Horton wrote:
On 30 Apr 2009, at 19:38, mabshoff wrote:
On Apr 30, 3:54 pm, Kevin Horton khorto...@rogers.com wrote:
sage 3.4.2-rc0 fails to install for me on a unbuntu 8.10 VM, failing
with:
SNIP
cp: cannot create regular file
On Apr 30, 5:56 pm, Kevin Horton khorto...@rogers.com wrote:
On 30 Apr 2009, at 20:40, mabshoff wrote:
SNIP
Tar has a verify option, so you might want to use that when
compilation attempts fail.
man tar seems to say that the verify option is only available when
creating tarballs.
Rado wrote:
What might be even better is to send a particular embedding to the
editor (i.e. send the adj. lists + vertices coordinates), but I am not
sure if this info is easily extractable (in simple (x,y) form) from
the graph theory libraries.
Yes, it is simple:
sage:
On Apr 30, 5:23 am, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hello folks,
here goes 3.4.2.rc0 - a little later than planned, but it seems like
we fixed all the issues (and more) that needed to be fixed. We finally
merged the symbolic logic code written well over *18* months ago, but
no
On a couple of 32-bit machines running archlinux, upgraded and built
fine from 3.4.2.alpha0, and everything under make ptestlong passes.
Best,
Alex
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:23 PM, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hello folks,
here goes 3.4.2.rc0 - a little later than planned, but
I too have founds bugs by reading code that I've written - usually,
very
early on in the development process. Note that I'm talking in the
context
of result verification, however. That is, when I publish a paper
that
depends on computations, it is incumbent upon me to verify those
On Apr 30, 8:21 pm, John H Palmieri jhpalmier...@gmail.com wrote:
On Apr 30, 5:23 am, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi John,
SNIP
Mac OS X 10.5, Intel: on an upgraded version, I had one doctest
failure,
sage -t devel/sage/sage/interfaces/psage.py
Hi folks,
I received the following segmentation fault when trying to use the
show command with complex_plot():
[mv...@sage ~]$ sage
--
| Sage Version 3.4.1, Release Date: 2009-04-21 |
| Type notebook() for
On Apr 30, 9:28 pm, Minh Nguyen nguyenmi...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi folks,
Hi,
I received the following segmentation fault when trying to use the
show command with complex_plot():
[mv...@sage ~]$ sage
--
| Sage Version
On Apr 30, 2009, at 9:41 PM, mabshoff wrote:
On Apr 30, 9:28 pm, Minh Nguyen nguyenmi...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi folks,
Hi,
I received the following segmentation fault when trying to use the
show command with complex_plot():
[mv...@sage ~]$ sage
On Apr 30, 9:47 pm, Robert Bradshaw rober...@math.washington.edu
wrote:
On Apr 30, 2009, at 9:41 PM, mabshoff wrote:
SNIP
please open a ticket. I think you might be using figsize wrong, i.e.
it isn't supposed to be a list or at least it isn't in MPL. If I pass
figsize=2 in for example
On Apr 28, 2009, at 9:35 PM, mabshoff wrote:
On Apr 28, 9:04 pm, Alex Ghitza aghi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 1:44 PM, mabshoff
mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hello folks,
3.4.1.rc0 ought to drop in the next 18 hours, so if you want
something
in and still need it
Hi Michael,
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 4:41 AM, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Apr 30, 9:28 pm, Minh Nguyen nguyenmi...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi folks,
Hi,
I received the following segmentation fault when trying to use the
show command with complex_plot():
[mv...@sage ~]$ sage
On Apr 30, 9:52 pm, Robert Bradshaw rober...@math.washington.edu
wrote:
On Apr 28, 2009, at 9:35 PM, mabshoff wrote:
SNIP
Yep. Small, localized fixes is exactly what we want at this stage :)
If you like pretty pictures, #5767 adds a lot of doctests to 3d
plotting, and fixes some
On Apr 30, 8:54 pm, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Apr 30, 8:21 pm, John H Palmieri jhpalmier...@gmail.com wrote:
On Apr 30, 5:23 am, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi John,
SNIP
Mac OS X 10.5, Intel: on an upgraded version, I had one doctest
failure,
sage
On Apr 30, 10:06 pm, John H Palmieri jhpalmier...@gmail.com wrote:
On Apr 30, 8:54 pm, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote:
SNIP
Is this reproducible?
Apparently not: I've been trying to get it again, but unsuccessfully.
Yeah, my experience is that that code is inherently racy and no
Hi, Michael,
On Apr 30, 2009, at 05:23 , mabshoff wrote:
Hello folks,
here goes 3.4.2.rc0 - a little later than planned, but it seems like
we fixed all the issues (and more) that needed to be fixed. We finally
merged the symbolic logic code written well over *18* months ago, but
no
On Apr 30, 9:55 pm, Minh Nguyen nguyenmi...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Michael,
Hi Minh,
SNIP
please open a ticket. I think you might be using figsize wrong, i.e.
it isn't supposed to be a list or at least it isn't in MPL.
If I do p.show(figsize=[500,500]) then *boom* and I know I'm doing
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:13 PM, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Apr 30, 10:06 pm, John H Palmieri jhpalmier...@gmail.com wrote:
On Apr 30, 8:54 pm, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote:
SNIP
Is this reproducible?
Apparently not: I've been trying to get it again, but
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:15 PM, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Apr 30, 9:55 pm, Minh Nguyen nguyenmi...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Michael,
Hi Minh,
SNIP
please open a ticket. I think you might be using figsize wrong, i.e.
it isn't supposed to be a list or at least it isn't
On Apr 30, 2009, at 10:18 PM, William Stein wrote:
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:13 PM, mabshoff
mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Apr 30, 10:06 pm, John H Palmieri jhpalmier...@gmail.com wrote:
On Apr 30, 8:54 pm, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote:
SNIP
Is this reproducible?
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Robert Bradshaw
rober...@math.washington.edu wrote:
On Apr 30, 2009, at 10:18 PM, William Stein wrote:
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:13 PM, mabshoff
mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Apr 30, 10:06 pm, John H Palmieri jhpalmier...@gmail.com wrote:
On Apr
On Apr 30, 4:27 pm, Rado rki...@gmail.com wrote:
I will try to work a bit this weekend on the user-interface. I see
some great suggestions by Rob, that are straight-forward to implement.
I don't do much graph theory, so if you've seen good graph editor
interfaces, send me a link for
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