Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

2002-08-30 Thread Trem
Psilocybe cubensis and stropharia cubensis are the same mushroom. They are coprophilous. They work quite well for the brain. Never heard of them helping any physical problems. Trem - Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@cybermesa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com

CSSick sheep

2002-08-30 Thread Trem
Hi List, Our neighbor has a lamb about 6 months old that is running a fever of 105 F.and the fever is not responding to antibiotics. Its most significant symptom is the fever and lethargy. The fever was up to 107 F. It has been sick for 5 days and getting antibiotics for 4 days. The vet

Re: CSHVAC

2002-08-30 Thread Rich Adams
From the archives. http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m41282.html - Original Message - I remember seeing something about using a neon sign transformer and the arc method to make it. Does anyone have any information on this? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion

Re: CSStrength

2002-08-30 Thread Rod Stevenson
- Original Message - From: James Osbourne, Holmes To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 12:51 AM Subject: RE: CSStrength Does anyone know what heterotrophic means?: heterotrophic activities of the microbial flora James-Osbourne: Holmes Hi

CSHeterotroph

2002-08-30 Thread Ivan Anderson
Concerning microorganism nutritional requirement. Classification by carbon source: Autotroph - can use CO2 as their sole or principle source of carbon. Heterotroph - use reduced, preformed organic molecules as carbon sources (these molecules normally come from other organisms and are often

CSTJ Garland and mycoplasmas

2002-08-30 Thread J S Campbell
Thanks for all the replies on this.How does the hydrogen peroxide increase the effectiveness of the CS? I read an email that said taking cayenne pepper increased the absorption of CS, is that simply by increasing the blood flow to the vessels in your mouth therefore it is absorbed more

CSLight-Scattering

2002-08-30 Thread Ivan Anderson
An in depth investigation of light scattering, absorption and transmission, in gold and silver sols. Has some colour photographs of silver sols. Warning: scientific and technical...just ignore the math, perhaps start at page 13. http://www.geniconsciences.com/root/files/1293.pdf Ivan -- The

Re: CSbuying cs instead of making it.

2002-08-30 Thread Ode Coyote
If when using salt, silver chloride is made...shouldn't we also get sodium hydroxide? [lye] And a fairly pronounced shift in PH? If injecting CS makes some silver chloride there should also be some sodium hydroxide. Not saying that this would be harmful. The amount of silver is very low to

RE: CSRe: buying cs instead of making it...

2002-08-30 Thread Ode Coyote
Alas, I didn't know about CS back when hunting the noble cubensis in the distant 70s. But I have used the fungi to heal lumps in muscles over night. It seemed to have a magical property of concentrating a prodigious heat wherever the concentration was held on a certain spot with a healing

RE: CSNewbie/Particle Size

2002-08-30 Thread Ode Coyote
One particle weighing over a gram has been used to kill werwolves when delivered in vivo at high velocity..according to legend. I hear the Lone Ranger was fond of using them on various people in black hats to quell the advance of nefarious intent. ..one particle/one organism found dead under

RE: CSbuying cs instead of making it.

2002-08-30 Thread Ivan Anderson
Ken, There will be no more OH- (the measure of pH) ions in the water than there would be if NaCl wasn't present. Sodium hydroxide is alkaline because it adds OH- ions to a solution. Ivan. -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, 30 August

RE: CSNewbie/Particle Size

2002-08-30 Thread Ivan Anderson
LOL -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net] Sent: Saturday, 31 August 2002 12:14 a.m. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSNewbie/Particle Size One particle weighing over a gram has been used to kill werwolves when delivered in vivo at high

Re: CSbuying cs instead of making it.

2002-08-30 Thread Marshall Dudley
Ode Coyote wrote: If when using salt, silver chloride is made...shouldn't we also get sodium hydroxide? [lye] And a fairly pronounced shift in PH? Yes. But how much would 5 ppm of sodium hydroxide shift the ph? If you add much salt at all the buffering effect of the remaining salt should

Re: CSLight-Scattering

2002-08-30 Thread Marshall Dudley
I have looked for years for the information in table 3! It seems all our estimates of particles size for yellow and gold sols has been on the low side by a factor of 2 to 4. The yellow particles are way over the size often given as the range of acceptable sizes which goes up to 15 nm. This

CSTJ Garland and mycoplasma infections

2002-08-30 Thread cmccauley
I have a question or two about making the 3% H202/CS mixture. About 15 minutes after making a batch of CS using my LVDC method (3 batteries, heat stirred, 16 oz. distilled water, 12 g. . silver wires (my own brewing setup) - brewed for approx. 1 hour after the bubbles started coming off of

CSA WARNING from Health CooP

2002-08-30 Thread Tel Tofflemire
List : this is a warning posted yesterday on the Generic coop news letter. I shot back to them with my disgust, they responded. I think you should write to them too, if you have anything to say. This is a group of retired Dr.so running this company now, and they should be held responsible

Re: CSLight-Scattering

2002-08-30 Thread Arnold Beland
Ivan, Thanks for the excellent reference paper on this. I feel it supports my suggestion of the use of a standardized laser pointer for the home brewer to insure their production of high quality CS. This should finally clear away the contention of some that only particles close in size to the

Re: CSBad batch of CS

2002-08-30 Thread Marshall Dudley
It does sound like an allergic reaction, but not to the silver. The timing is not right. If they were to have a reaction it would be expected when they were applying it, not days later. Marshall edkas...@pacbell wrote: I made C-S with a 120 volt DC Rectifier (54VDC out) using distilled water.

CSBad batch of CS

2002-08-30 Thread edkas...@pacbell
I made C-S with a 120 volt DC Rectifier (54VDC out) using distilled water. It always comes out clear no flakes. I gave some to a patient of mine (I do acupuncture and herbs) for cellulites and it worked great. However another person reported : after using it topically, I noticed I was very tired,

Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

2002-08-30 Thread Jeannie
Ode Coyote wrote: Psylicybe [sp] Cubensis ..the cow plops golden dollar..brain fertilizer. It wasn't just a tight muscle, it was an actual lump about the size of a ping pong ball. Quite disturbingly large and getting bigger. Ken Could this have been a fatty tumor? I have several of

Re: CSHeterotroph

2002-08-30 Thread Jack Dayton
From: Ivan Anderson i...@win.co.nz Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 23:04:25 +1200 Subject: CSHeterotroph Ivan wrote: Concerning microorganism nutritional requirement. Classification by carbon source: Autotroph - can use CO2 as their sole or principle source of carbon. Heterotroph -

CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

2002-08-30 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
If the cows eat them, do they get glad cow disease? I love it! Was that S.C. that you used on the tight muscle? I have never heard of that therapy. I used to grow them, but it quite a project. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net]

RE: CSbuying cs instead of making it.

2002-08-30 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Without attempting the math, I guess that the absorbed CO2 from the room air probably has a greater effect on the pH than the salt. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 8:05 AM To:

RE: CSbuying cs instead of making it.

2002-08-30 Thread Ode Coyote
I guess the real question is what happens to the sodium when the silver combines with the chlorine in the presence of salt? Ken At 12:49 AM 8/31/02 +1200, you wrote: Ken, There will be no more OH- (the measure of pH) ions in the water than there would be if NaCl wasn't present. Sodium

Re: CSTJ Garland and mycoplasma infections

2002-08-30 Thread Ode Coyote
I once used a few drops of H2O2 as a starter and made silver snow flakes like you'd see in one of those snow scene paper weights. Ken At 10:28 AM 8/30/02 -0400, you wrote: I have a question or two about making the 3% H202/CS mixture. About 15 minutes after making a batch of CS using my LVDC

RE: CSbuying cs instead of making it.

2002-08-30 Thread Ode Coyote
So, we come up with a small amount of sodium bi carbonate? [Baking soda] Ken At 12:26 PM 8/30/02 -0600, you wrote: Without attempting the math, I guess that the absorbed CO2 from the room air probably has a greater effect on the pH than the salt. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original

RE: CSBad batch of CS

2002-08-30 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Anecdotal reports of allergy to silver have appeared on this list from time to time. Usually, they involved daily handling of jewelry-grade silver. The symptoms I remember were cracking and bleeding of the hands. Perhaps you can obtain some silver made with another process that has been widely

Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

2002-08-30 Thread Ode Coyote
Psylicybe [sp] Cubensis ..the cow plops golden dollar..brain fertilizer. It wasn't just a tight muscle, it was an actual lump about the size of a ping pong ball. Quite disturbingly large and getting bigger. Ken At 12:26 PM 8/30/02 -0600, you wrote: If the cows eat them, do they get glad cow

RE: CSbuying cs instead of making it.

2002-08-30 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Lye, from the ionization of the water? James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 12:53 PM To: *Silver-List* Subject: RE: CSbuying cs instead of making it. I guess the real question is what happens to

RE: CSbuying cs instead of making it.

2002-08-30 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
I think it makes carbonic acid, but my chemistry is fuzzy. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 1:01 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSbuying cs instead of making it. So, we come up with

RE: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome

2002-08-30 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Oh, spooky. Maybe the shroom enlightened a neoplasm. I'm no expert, but I think it is Stropharia Cubensis that grows in the pies. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 1:06 PM To:

Re: CSBad batch of CS

2002-08-30 Thread Rod Stevenson
- Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 5:28 PM Subject: Re: CSBad batch of CS It does sound like an allergic reaction, but not to the silver. The timing is not right. If they were to have a reaction it

Re: CSA WARNING from Health CooP

2002-08-30 Thread Rod Stevenson
Tel, thanks for writing back to these jokers. I won't be...woof, woof! meow! fair members ? I think these retired Doctors have been at the gas and air once too often. Regards Rod - Original Message - From: Tel Tofflemire To: Silver list Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 4:37 PM

Re: CSA WARNING from Health CooP

2002-08-30 Thread Catherine Creel
Dear Rod, You said: Tel, thanks for writing back to these jokers. I won't be... woof, woof! meow! fair members ? I think these retired Doctors have been at the gas and air once too often. The guy isn't a doctor. That's why he's hiding out in the islands. He was exposed as a fraud and

Re: CSA WARNING from Health CooP

2002-08-30 Thread CKing001
You are misinformed. There ARE those that don't like him though. That's part of life... Chuck When a clock is hungry it goes back four seconds. On Fri, 30 Aug 2002 18:15:15 -0400, Catherine Creel ccr...@maine.rr.com wrote: The guy isn't a

Re: CSA WARNING from Health CooP

2002-08-30 Thread Catherine Creel
You are misinformed. There ARE those that don't like him though. That's part of life... No, Chuck, I'm really not. All the evidence is available. I don't make statements based upon others' statements. I look for facts. I found them. Kallie Miller has all the links to the evidence. I

Re: CSA WARNING from Health CooP

2002-08-30 Thread CKing001
Kallie is part of mr Tracys' group. They allow character assassination as long as it's not about their own members. Went through all of this a year ago. It still surfaces, showing how powerful gossip and innuendo can be. I find it despicable. Chuck

Re: CSA WARNING from Health CooP

2002-08-30 Thread AVRA / Jason
Tel: Very Interesting, thanks for the post. It seems that their response was both reasonable and cordial. I never expect MD's, without any experience and only brief research, to have any other position on colloidal silver. What seperates the thinkers from the perpetually ignorant is a

Re: CSA WARNING from Health CooP

2002-08-30 Thread DWells2530
Hi Listers, The guy isn't a doctor. That's why he's hiding out in the islands. He was exposed as a fraud and huckster.. I have been a memeber of the Co-op for over a year now and all I have to say about it is its the best thing since toast was invented! I get quality products far

Re: CSSick sheep

2002-08-30 Thread Marshall Dudley
IV might be the best course. And if you could put an ultrasonic humidifer with CS in it, it might make it into the lungs if pneumonia is prescent. Marshall Trem wrote: Hi List, Our neighbor has a lamb about 6 months old that is running a fever of 105 F.and the fever is not responding to

Re: CSA WARNING from Health CooP

2002-08-30 Thread Acmeair
i am a member of this co-op and enjoy the prices and all. i took exception to his comments r.e. Cs, and sent him an email. but i have heard you expound your beliefs on several topics, and would like you to back up your statements here. - Original Message - From: Catherine Creel

Re: CSTJ Garland and mycoplasmas

2002-08-30 Thread MARIANO DELISE
I'm not sure what happens, exactly, but in my simple mind, I think of the hydrogen (like in the bomb) pulverizing the silver into the tiniest of pieces, so they are able to get into the bloodstream. - Original Message - From: J S Campbell campbe...@ecossetel.com To:

Re: CSA WARNING from Health CooP

2002-08-30 Thread Catherine Creel
i am a member of this co-op and enjoy the prices and all. i took exception to his comments r.e. Cs, and sent him an email. but i have heard you expound your beliefs on several topics, and would like you to back up your statements here. As I said, Kallie Miller has all the evidence. She can

Re: CSA WARNING from Health CooP

2002-08-30 Thread Catherine Creel
Kallie is part of mr Tracys' group. They allow character assassination as long as it's not about their own members. Went through all of this a year ago. It still surfaces, showing how powerful gossip and innuendo can be. I find it despicable. Take a look at any of the sites where current and

Re: CSSick sheep

2002-08-30 Thread Barbara Liles
Trem, I have used CS mixed with milk replica for calves who already had the scours. It helped the scours. One calf had a respiratory infection so we put him on IV CS, but started him on oral. Both calves lived to become ground round! In speaking with a vet about giving oral CS to a rumen,