Re: CS>profit motive

2008-10-06 Thread M. G. Devour
Neville writes: > ... my way is ionic, but each to their own on CS and what condition it > may be used for I guess, ionic vs particulate. Which makes this whole discussion a bit ironic, given that most of the "EIS" that we make at home will have a minor but significant colloidal component, and

Re: Fw: Re: CS>blue moons revisited

2008-10-06 Thread Neville
Hi sol, OK, delete the word 'enhance' from my statement and replace it with 'aid', or 'compliment' maybe, however they all mean the same thing to me. Maybe I should have put it another way...if we had no, none, zilch, zap, nada, jack, zero or bereft of silver in the body, be it in the form

CS>MRSA and CS

2008-10-06 Thread Wayne Fugitt
Morning Indi, You and others, could change the subject line. It does not cost much. >> of chemistry and theory of metabolic response; I am not selling anything. My motive is simply to conquer a debilitating MRSA. I should be testing CS and MRSA this week. Any suggestions ? Where is the MRSA

Re: CS>MRSA and CS

2008-10-06 Thread kmilkowski
They'll gladly take the hundred grand along with your house. Look into french green clay for the MRSA. Kurt Wayne Fugitt wrote: > Morning Indi, > > You and others, could change the subject line. > It does not cost much. > > >> of chemistry and theory of metabolic response; I am not sell

Re: Fw: CS>Colloidal Silver/Sulphur Solution

2008-10-06 Thread Dee
I don't think MSM *can* carry anything other than itself to tissues. dee Peter - Original Message - *From:* Peter Converse *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Friday, October 03, 2008 3:24 PM *Subject:* CS>Colloidal Silver/Sulp

Re: CS>Who is the Scientist

2008-10-06 Thread Dee
This is so true sol, because even nutrients which are supposed to help, can, in some people, be very bad. I think it is a case of trial and error with most things, and maybe a touch of moderation as well. dee sol wrote: Wayne Fugitt wrote: Morning Neville, The problem there is no one kn

Re: Fw: Re: CS>blue moons revisited

2008-10-06 Thread Dee
It was that man recently wasn't it that they found silver in his brain, but only after he had been taking a concoction of drugs as well. Maybe the drugs caused the silver to stay there and not be excreted, who knows? And anyway, they still couldn't say what actually killed him could they, so t

Re: CS>blue moons revisited

2008-10-06 Thread Dee
And from what I can gather from the very knowledgeable people on this list, *this* is also misinformation! We all make ionic silver here and there definitely *is* benefit from taking it internally as I and everyone else can testify. How can you state this with no proof at all, and in the fac

Re: CS>blue moons revisited - replied 5 Oct

2008-10-06 Thread Dee
Good luck with it Sandee, I am having really good results using aerobic oxygen i.e. more energy and no constipation (or a lot less) which I haven't experienced for years! dee Sandee George wrote: You know Dee you may have a point here - I used to do oxygen therapy when I lived in New Mexico a

CS>Willard Water - question clear vs dark

2008-10-06 Thread craehow...@juno.com
Hi.. I'm thinking of about ordering some Willard Water and checking out wonderlabs.com who seemed to provide good information. It appears that the dark has more ingrediants added and the clear added cal/mag/etc. This confused me as I was thinking the water just had a special oxygenation proc

CS>What to Blame, What is Responsible

2008-10-06 Thread Wayne Fugitt
Morning Dee, >> At 05:59 AM 10/6/2008, you wrote: The difference in "Who to Blame" and "Who is responsible" is very important in all phases of life, even in politics. This is so true sol, because even nutrients which are supposed to help, can, in some people, be very bad. Careful now,

Re: CS>Willard Water - question clear vs dark

2008-10-06 Thread marmar845
Connie -- Nenah gave you the best advice -- order from Nutrition Coalition.  They will answer any questions that you have.  MA     -- Original message from "craehow...@juno.com" : -- Hi.. I'm thinking of about ordering some Willard Water and checking out wonderlabs.co

Re: CS>Here's a question?

2008-10-06 Thread Neville
Got a question or two! But firstly, I am not getting into pedantics, just generalities!!! 1) Are the minerals in our body in the form of ions or particles? I know there is a fine line between the two so don't anyone go off on a technobabble tangent defining both, I know about that from a pre

Fw: CS>Colloidal Silver/Sulphur Solution

2008-10-06 Thread Peter Converse
Hi All, I am putting this back on the list in hopes that someone can answer my question about colloidal silver/suphur. Is there anyone here with any knowledge or interest in this subject having a chemistry background? I ran across this website: http://www.leesfountainofyouth.com/opera

RE: CS>Willard Water - question clear vs dark

2008-10-06 Thread Nenah Sylver
I believe the white is mechanically filtered to get out the mineral particulates, which make the water dark. The dark is what originally results, but some people didn't like the color in the water so the white was developed. Yes, the dark does contain more minerals. I prefer the dark myself. Log on

Re: CS>blue moons revisited

2008-10-06 Thread Ode Coyote
At 05:47 PM 10/5/2008 -0400, you wrote: Typically, if you have real CS (i.e. *not* ionic silver) there will be a small amount of ionic silver. This can be mostly eliminated by exposure to sunlight though. You are correct that silver ions will react with the hydrochloric acid in the stomach and r

RE: CS>Hospital Nutrition

2008-10-06 Thread Ode Coyote
Because people sick enough to die go to hospitals Healthy people don't..and transport costs are high. Ode At 08:26 PM 10/5/2008 -0400, you wrote: Now you know why graveyards are usually right across the street from hospitals. I really don't think nutrition would be the proper term for the

Re: CS>MRSA and CS

2008-10-06 Thread Indi
On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 05:14:20 -0500 Wayne Fugitt wrote: > MRSA is not as bad as everyone has been led to believe. > Apparently you haven't met anyone with a really troublesome MRSA. It is serious enough to have rendered me bed-ridden for weeks at a time on and off since 2002 -- at one point I co

Re: CS>MRSA and CS

2008-10-06 Thread kmilkowski
Sorry to hear about your friend, but it led to to a great decision, avoid the quacks at all costs! In most cases the cost is your life. Kurt Indi wrote: > On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 05:14:20 -0500 > Wayne Fugitt wrote: > > > MRSA is not as bad as everyone has been led to believe. > > > > Appa

RE: CS>Hospital Nutrition

2008-10-06 Thread kmilkowski
Well Ode, sometimes you go in with a broken bone and come out with a staph infection isuring you have to go back so they can finish you off. Ode Coyote wrote: >Because people sick enough to die go to hospitals > Healthy people don't..and transport costs are high. > > Ode > > At 0

Re: CS>Colloidal Silver/Sulphur Solution

2008-10-06 Thread Indi
Rudimentary is the word, all right! On the website he says, "Colloidal silver and sulfur mix is the best antibiotic known to man and it is so easy and almost free to make it by the gallons with 2 little pieces of silver. If it be a silver coin, sterling silver table utensil, or a piece of silver

Re: CS>What to Blame, What is Responsible

2008-10-06 Thread Dee
But without going into the long rigmarole that you are fond of Wayne, it is much simpler to say that while some nutrients or whatever, are essential for most, they are not for *some*! Never mind the reasons, it is still a fact that some healthy things do not agree with some people. To me tha

Re: CS>blue moons revisited-now CS vs EIS

2008-10-06 Thread Dee
Well said Ode, its just a shame that this has to keep being reiterated, because it shows how misinformation can be regarded as the truth. This is what we are continuously up against in alternative health when even believers are getting it wrong. dee Ode Coyote wrote: At 05:47 PM 10/5/2008 -

Re: CS>blue moons revisited... please provide references.

2008-10-06 Thread larry tankersley
Hi Indi the following from your post "You are correct that silver ions will react with the hydrochloric acid in the stomach and result in silver chloride formation. With ionic silver, if it is potent enough (high PPM) this can become a dangerous amount of silver chloride. "Dangerous" meaning on

Re: CS>blue moons revisited

2008-10-06 Thread Marshall Dudley
craehow...@juno.com wrote: After reading your post concerning the quantity and potency I felt the need to comment. For almost 4 years I have been consuming a quart or more of Collodial Silver (15-20ppm). The blue moons you've indicated are due in fact to your collodial Silver consumption

Re: What went around, comes around wasCS>blue moons revisited

2008-10-06 Thread Marshall Dudley
Didn't Adelle Davis espouse those things around 30 years ago? Marshall Pat wrote: Thirty years ago as a dietary technician at a hospital, I was forced to tell patients to use polyunsaturated oils, margarine instead of butter, EggBeaters low cholesterol egg substitute, to use artificial sweete

Re: CS>blue moons revisited

2008-10-06 Thread Marshall Dudley
David wrote: Hello Sol l If you've dramatically reduced your silver intake shouldn't the blue nails have grown out, or at least lightened up? The nails don't turn blue, the moons do. The nails remain translucent, but the soft tissue at the growth site of the nails remains blue. Apparently

Re: CS>blue moons revisited

2008-10-06 Thread Marshall Dudley
Interestingly night before last I was at a Halloween party. I happened to be seated next to a doctor who happened to notice my fingernail moons. She commented on them and said that that is caused by silver toxicity. I informed her that it was due to silver, but that it is strictly a cosmetic

Re: Fw: Re: CS>blue moons revisited

2008-10-06 Thread Marshall Dudley
craehow...@juno.com wrote: Question: If; in fact, Collodial Silver did accumulate (beyond turning blue) what could we expect that to cause? An immune system boost. Since some water filters use silver to purify water, any accumulated silver, especially in places like the liver, should enh

RE: CS>Colloidal Silver/Sulphur Solution

2008-10-06 Thread Dan Nave
This site is apparently a Lee Crock site. It appears to have been written by a third grader. His pseudo-technical explanations are ridiculous mumbo-jumbo. However, that being said, I have experimented with a "Crock Device" under my mattress, which should have had zero effect from a scientifi

Re: CS>blue moons revisited... please provide references.

2008-10-06 Thread Indi
Hi Larry, I study and I learn, but I do not have the lawyer-like ability to cite all research, as I am not really out to debate people or to practice medicine on others. I'm just trying to get well again. :) I do recall there is a bit about it in the book "Electrically Assisted Transdermal and To

Re: CS>OT CMO & lithium orotate

2008-10-06 Thread Marshall Dudley
cla...@jazznsamba.com wrote: CMO and Lithium Orotate have been discussed on the list in the past - I'm looking for the best place to get both. Suggestions? TIA, Claire For CMO, I recommend http://cmo-usa.com/ I just had my wife go through a treatment with theirs last month. I cured my ar

Re: CS>blue moons - Fingernail Diag Site

2008-10-06 Thread Marshall Dudley
craehow...@juno.com wrote: I just found this site and thought some might find it usefull. It was really interesting. connie http://www.marthatierney.com/A_fingernails.htm Click for free information on court reporter careers, $1

Re: CS>blue moons revisited - replied 5 Oct

2008-10-06 Thread Marshall Dudley
Dee wrote: Maybe it is not enough oxygen in the system for some reason? This can be the cause for things turning blue, ie. lips etc., dee Blood conditions can cause bluing, but it is different. Silver give a slate blue, blood low in oxygen is more of a sky blue. Also if you press on the nail a

CS>Concern

2008-10-06 Thread Dee
I am a bit concerned over these various revelations about silver lodging in tissue. I had thought that in the form we make i.e. ionic, that this could not happen. Its just that I have been giving quite a few people silver and telling them that it will not harm them in any way no matter how mu

Re: CS>Hospital Nutrition

2008-10-06 Thread Clayton Family
That is abuse! It is a very sad testament to our society that we allow our elderly to suffer such indignities. What kind of people work there, anyway? It is a shame that we have so many pressures on us that we cannot care for our dear ones when they become so old. At least we love them. I h

Re: CS>MRSA and CS

2008-10-06 Thread bbanever
Sad to say it is now policy for doctors and hospitals to make as much money from you as possible until you die... they have no qualms about doing so even when they know the "treatment" they are giving you is harmful and may kill you. They just give you more until you either die or become a pati

Re: CS>Hospital Nutrition

2008-10-06 Thread Clayton Family
Oh yeah, I forgot to say that when I had my son, I had my husband smuggle food in to me- fruit, and I forget what else, maybe Chinese. The nurse said a lot of people did that- there was a pizza place on the corner that did a brisk business (not that pizza is really so good, but it speaks volum

Re: CS>MRSA and CS

2008-10-06 Thread Clayton Family
On Oct 6, 2008, at 10:43 AM, Indi wrote: Prior to contracting this MRSA I was extremely healthy and active all my life, now I have very low energy, walk with a cane, and must rest often. I am struggling to rebuild my health now. I'm afraid the dangers of MRSA are very real. As for testing, I'm

Re: Fw: CS>Colloidal Silver/Sulphur Solution

2008-10-06 Thread Marshall Dudley
I have several problems with that site besides the bad English and poor spelling (like poor CS instead of pour CS). His picture raises more questions than answers, and I can find nowhere where he describes how he is making it. He says to use melted sulfur, but melted sulfur is impossible to p

Re: CS>Concern

2008-10-06 Thread craehow...@juno.com
Dee I've been giving my cats CS for years.. it makes up 40% of their water and they love it. If they turn blue it won't make a bit of difference. A far as other people give them a web site and let them decide for themselves. Myself I'm not worried and I've been taking it for years in larg

Re: CS>MRSA and CS

2008-10-06 Thread kmilkowski
Yep, keep the profits up, to hell with the patient! The new doctors oath. bbanever wrote: > Sad to say it is now policy for doctors and hospitals to make as much money > from you as possible until you die... they have no qualms about doing so > even when they know the "treatment" they are

Re: CS>blue moons revisited

2008-10-06 Thread Marshall Dudley
Indi wrote: I don't think it is likely that true CS can accumulate in your system, or that if it did it would cause blue moons or argyria. As far as I know, the bluish discoloration some people report is caused by silver chloride, which can result when salt or baking soda is used as a conductive

Re: CS>Colloidal Silver/Sulphur Solution

2008-10-06 Thread Marshall Dudley
Silvadene is Silver Sulfadiazine which is basically a soluble combination of silver and a sulfa drug, NOT Silver Sulfide which is an insoluble silver compound better known as tarnish. Marshall Indi wrote: Rudimentary is the word, all right! On the website he says, "Colloidal silver and sulfur

Re: CS>Concern

2008-10-06 Thread Marshall Dudley
Dee wrote: I am a bit concerned over these various revelations about silver lodging in tissue. I had thought that in the form we make i.e. ionic, that this could not happen. Its just that I have been giving quite a few people silver and telling them that it will not harm them in any way no m

Re: CS>Colloidal Silver/Sulphur Solution

2008-10-06 Thread Indi
On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 04:25:43PM -0400, Marshall Dudley wrote: > Silvadene is Silver Sulfadiazine which is basically a soluble > combination of silver and a sulfa drug, NOT Silver Sulfide which is an > insoluble silver compound better known as tarnish. > Ah I see, thanks for clearing that up

Re: CS>MRSA and CS

2008-10-06 Thread Deborah Gerard
Boy I beg to differ with you big time I work for and transport pt's all day long that have MRSA and they are in nursing homes and hospitals because of it and are extremely sick and contagious!!! Especially if they have it in their lungs...I constantly wear gloves and spray cs around me in th

Re: CS>MRSA and CS

2008-10-06 Thread Indi
You're not disagreeing with me, you're disagreeing with the gentleman I was correcting. *He* said, "MRSA is not as bad as everyone has been led to believe"; I was refuting that assertion by sharing my own harrowing experience. On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 03:55:58PM -0700, Deborah Gerard wrote: > Boy

CS>CS:> CMO and Lithium Orotate/Sinus

2008-10-06 Thread Harold MacDonald
I got Lithium O. from "iherb" and CMO from Sunstone Herbals in the past. No problem so far. Further to my recipe for Sinus,I do remember now having overloaded the mix with DMSO for special use with a nasal infection due to side effects from a medication, not even remotely connected with sinus.

RE: CS>MRSA and CS

2008-10-06 Thread Silvia Messmer
One of my neighbors lost her leg to it and has had health problems related to the infection since. Some strains are very virulent. Silvia -Original Message- > MRSA is not as bad as everyone has been led to believe. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal S

Re: CS>Colloidal Silver/Sulphur Solution

2008-10-06 Thread Peter Converse
Hi Dan, Yes, I agree that his text definitely leaves a lot to be desired, however, I was wondering, regardless of those flaws, whether the solution he's making may be a winner or something to avoid... that's all. Sometimes we can look to the "brightest" and find the worst or look to "foolish" a

RE: CS>MRSA and CS

2008-10-06 Thread Wayne Fugitt
At 07:07 PM 10/6/2008, you wrote: One of my neighbors lost her leg to it and has had health problems related to the infection since. Some strains are very virulent. Nearly everyone treated by doctors for spider bites, often get their leg, hand, or something cut off. I know a man whose le

Re: CS>receding gums

2008-10-06 Thread Leslie
Computer has been down; sorry . Stay away from Flouride. Brush with no flouride toothpaste like tea tree which you can buy reasonably at Puritan's, or use soap which I use mostly. "Good Teeth Birth to Death" book you might read. Leslie - Original Message - From: Paula Perry To:

Lyme, was Re: CS>blue moons revisited

2008-10-06 Thread sol
Marshall Dudley wrote: High intake can cause blue moons. I have them, my wife has them, and my son, who takes much lower amounts, slightly has them. Mine appeared quite suddenly immeidately following me taking huge amounts of CS for

Re: What went around, comes around wasCS>blue moons revisited

2008-10-06 Thread sol
Not all of them, but she did get the fats totally wrong. And she also espoused adding some form of soy in just about everything. I still use her cookbook, but have to make many substitutions. sol Marshall Dudley wrote: Didn't Adelle Davis espouse those things around 30 years ago? Marshall Pa

Re: CS>blue moons revisited - replied 5 Oct

2008-10-06 Thread Tony Moody
Hi Sol, Iron. You might try 'wearing' a magnet on your chest. This could magnetise the bloodcells passing under, which would force the cells apart exposing more of the cell surfaces to the fluid of the blood; and this may improve the oxygen transfer. Improved bile flow and elimination will