CSTDS-PWT Measurement for Ionic Silver

2012-05-06 Thread Melly Bag
Thank you Ode and Monette for your inputs.   Melly

Re: CSTDS Meter

2012-01-04 Thread Ode Coyote
Search for EC or electrical conductivity meter with a readout in microsiemens. [uS] MUCH better than a TDS meter. Ode At 07:41 PM 1/3/2012 +0200, you wrote: Looking for something good but not very expensive. Just for testing water. Suggestions? Anything on ebay? Thanks, Joy -- The

CSTDS Meter

2012-01-03 Thread 2 Words Production
Looking for something good but not very expensive. Just for testing water. Suggestions? Anything on ebay? Thanks, Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe:

Re: CSTDS Meter

2012-01-03 Thread Tel Tofflemire
: Tuesday, January 3, 2012 10:41 AM Subject: CSTDS Meter Looking for something good but not very expensive. Just for testing water. Suggestions? Anything on ebay? Thanks, Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org

Re: CSTDS meter how to use

2008-08-14 Thread Ode Coyote
, you wrote: Thanks Mike. dee ---Original Message--- From: mailto:mdev...@eskimo.comM. G. Devour Date: 08/13/08 11:58:22 To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTDS meter how to use Chuck wrote: you can do the same thing by sticking a pinhole

Re: CSTDS meter how to use

2008-08-13 Thread M. G. Devour
Chuck wrote: you can do the same thing by sticking a pinhole in a playing card and shine a regular flashlight through it. Dee replied: this didn't work when I tried it. That's because your generator is making a predominantly ionic product and the tyndal effect only reveals the particulate

Re: CSTDS meter how to use

2008-08-13 Thread Faith Gagne
- Original Message - From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:56 AM Subject: Re: CSTDS meter how to use Faith: I have a couple of laser pointers and they are indeed very bright. You simply do not point them at anyone's face

Re: CSTDS meter how to use

2008-08-13 Thread Dee
Thanks Mike. dee ---Original Message--- From: M. G. Devour Date: 08/13/08 11:58:22 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTDS meter how to use Chuck wrote: you can do the same thing by sticking a pinhole in a playing card and shine a regular flashlight through it. Dee

Re: CSTDS meter how to use

2008-08-12 Thread Dee
this didn't work when I tried it. Dee ---Original Message--- From: cking...@nycap.rr.com Date: 12/08/2008 03:15:57 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTDS meter how to use You are overly cautious, but you can do the same thing by sticking a pinhole in a playing card and shine

Re: CSTDS meter how to use

2008-08-12 Thread Faith Gagne
- Original Message - From: cking...@nycap.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 10:14 PM Subject: Re: CSTDS meter how to use On 8/11/2008 9:55:43 PM, Faith Gagne (jitte...@gis.net) wrote: Thnks Chuck, but that reminds me that I looked at a laser pointer

Re: CSTDS meter how to use

2008-08-12 Thread Clayton Family
On Aug 12, 2008, at 9:55 AM, Faith Gagne wrote: - Original Message - From: cking...@nycap.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 10:14 PM Subject: Re: CSTDS meter how to use On 8/11/2008 9:55:43 PM, Faith Gagne (jitte...@gis.net) wrote: Thnks Chuck

Re: CSTDS meter how to use

2008-08-12 Thread cking001
On 8/12/2008 10:55:30 AM, Faith Gagne (jitte...@gis.net) wrote: But why am I being overly cautious when the package specifically warns about it? I never would have thought rhat a reflection could damage my eyes. In fact I didn't even think about damaging my eyes with a laser pointer. How

RE: CSTDS meter how to use

2008-08-12 Thread Dan Nave
@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTDS meter how to use On 8/12/2008 10:55:30 AM, Faith Gagne (jitte...@gis.net) wrote: But why am I being overly cautious when the package specifically warns about it? I never would have thought rhat a reflection could damage my eyes. In fact I didn't even

Re: CSTDS meter how to use

2008-08-12 Thread Faith Gagne
- Original Message - From: cking...@nycap.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 2:02 PM Subject: Re: CSTDS meter how to use On 8/12/2008 10:55:30 AM, Faith Gagne (jitte...@gis.net) wrote: But why am I being overly cautious when the package specifically

CSTDS meter how to use

2008-08-11 Thread Carrole Orme
Hi I have a TDS meter and not sure about how I am using it. I put it in my CS jar and I wasn't getting anything just o I was wondering how long I have to leave it and how deep I was told to stir it I got a meter because my CS seems so clear I can't see any particles in it when I was 1st using it

Re: CSTDS meter how to use

2008-08-11 Thread cking001
Your TDS meter should give you a reading instantaneously. There is a horizontal line embossed on the side for a depth limit indicator. At any rate, depth would be about an inch. Your battery may need replacing. To check your CS without the meter, shine a light beam through your CS. (We like the

Re: CSTDS meter how to use

2008-08-11 Thread Norton, Steve
passing through the electrodes using the DMM. I like to see about 12 milliamperes before I stop the process. - Steve - Original Message - From: cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon Aug 11 13:59:52 2008 Subject: Re: CSTDS

Re: CSTDS meter how to use

2008-08-11 Thread Faith Gagne
Re: CSTDS meter how to use - Original Message - From: cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon Aug 11 13:59:52 2008 Subject: Re: CSTDS meter how to use Your TDS meter should give you a reading instantaneously

Re: CSTDS meter how to use

2008-08-11 Thread cking001
On 8/11/2008 9:21:59 PM, Faith Gagne (jitte...@gis.net) wrote: Chuck, I haven't been really paying attention to this very much, but should I get a TDS meter to measure how much ppm I have? I havenothing to measure how much CS I am making. thanks. Faith G. Only if you want to make a hobby

Re: CSTDS meter how to use

2008-08-11 Thread Faith Gagne
Chuck, I haven't been really paying attention to this very much, but should I get a TDS meter to measure how much ppm I have? I havenothing to measure how much CS I am making. thanks. Faith G. Only if you want to make a hobby out of it. Not necessary at all. A cheap pocket laser pointer from

Re: CSTDS meter how to use

2008-08-11 Thread cking001
On 8/11/2008 9:55:43 PM, Faith Gagne (jitte...@gis.net) wrote: Thnks Chuck, but that reminds me that I looked at a laser pointer at Staples, but I was afraid to buy it because the package warned about shining the laser into eyes, your own or anyone else's, and to avoid any dark shiny surfaces

Re: CSTDS meter, PWT, Why not an EC meter

2008-06-03 Thread Ode
A zero reading on a TDS can be as high as 1.99 uS...IF..it is reading right so far out of it's usual range when calibrated at 300 PPM [~600 uS] Even a good brand of TDS meter calibrated at 300 PPM can vary as much as 2 digits between meters at 5 PPM..so..if it hasn't been re-calibrated for

CSTDS meter, PWT, Why not an EC meter

2008-06-02 Thread david
From: Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com Date: 31 May 2008 5:06:41 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTDS meter, PWT, Why not an EC meter Morning Sol, At 11:16 PM 5/30/2008, you wrote: Like what? And what misrepresentation of facts? sol I asked you a question, and you answered

Re: CSTDS meter, PWT, Why not an EC meter

2008-06-02 Thread Wayne Fugitt
Morning David, Thanks David for some comments and ideas. At 05:11 AM 6/2/2008, you wrote: I agree with most of them, a few I do not. Not really true. Most reasonable people understand pretty quickly that a meter is just a guide. Now that is a Great Statement. That will be news to all

Re: CSTDS meter, PWT, Why not an EC meter

2008-06-01 Thread Ode Coyote
Sales Hype: TDS meter Calibrated for CS HOW was it calibrated? I've never seen one that would go up that far.. If the TDS reading is to be doubled and that was stated, and the meter was adjusted to read correctly at 5-20 PPM rather than 300 to 1000 ..Then, I might believe it. But a

Re: CSTDS meter, PWT, Why not an EC meter

2008-06-01 Thread Wayne Fugitt
Evening Sol, At 12:19 PM 5/31/2008, you wrote: I am indeed sorry some of my statements appear to be snide remarks. That was not planned for sure. And I apologize it they offended you in any way. I answered with a question because I didn't know what the hell you were talking about, and

Re: CSTDS meter, PWT, Why not an EC meter

2008-06-01 Thread sol
Wayne Fugitt wrote: And I apologize it they offended you in any way. Accepted. Someone stated that their meter would not go below 1.0 or similar. That is what got my attention. It is my understanding that a TDS meter's lowest reading is 1.0 uS. For estimating uS of finished CS, I think

Re: CSTDS meter, PWT, Why not an EC meter

2008-05-31 Thread Wayne Fugitt
Morning Sol, At 11:16 PM 5/30/2008, you wrote: Like what? And what misrepresentation of facts? sol I asked you a question, and you answered with a question, Interesting indeed. Why don't you get a good EC meter and forget all the sales hype and misrepresentation of the facts.

Re: CSTDS meter

2008-05-31 Thread Tad Winiecki
Sorry to hear you have such problems. I guess my area is blessed with good water. Nancy On May 30, 2008, at 9:13 PM, sol wrote: Something here in the water that doesn't easily distill out, means I have to have DW of .1 to .3 uS (if single distilled) or .4 uS if double distilled. Other than

Re: CSTDS meter, PWT, Why not an EC meter

2008-05-31 Thread sol
I answered with a question because I didn't know what the hell you were talking about, and still don't understand why you directed a snide statement (now 2 snide statements) at me. Sometimes, Wayne, you are so full of your own ego, you don't get that people simply may truly not understand

CSTDS meter

2008-05-30 Thread Tad Winiecki
I bought a generator a few years ago from Pride Labs, still using it, and they included a TDS meter. I just checked their site and they are selling one different from mine for $29.95, but they say they only have 5 in stock. http://www.pridelabs.us/scientific.htm Nancy -- The Silver List

Re: CSTDS meter

2008-05-30 Thread Tad Winiecki
Oops- I didn't scroll down, they also have Hanna TDS meters on sale for $31.95, 11 in stock. The one they gave me with my generator says Milwaukee, made in Portugal. It says it is calibrated for CS, I just swish it a little and it comes up with a number. Nancy On May 30, 2008, at 2:36

Re: CSTDS meter

2008-05-30 Thread sol
For those who need to have VERY pure distilled water to make CS with the TDS is not sensitive enough. I have to have a PWT (or a COM-100 would work also). Correct me if I'm wrong but the TDS will not measure below 1.0. And I have to have distilled water of purity well below that. While I also

Re: CSTDS meter

2008-05-30 Thread Tad Winiecki
I just buy distilled water, pour it in my jar, stick in the electrodes, and turn on my generator, I guess I don't understand your water quality problem, I'm happy with my CS as is. I just like to check the finished ppm as I don't have auto shut-off. Nancy On May 30, 2008, at 6:03 PM, sol

CSTDS meter, PWT, Why not an EC meter

2008-05-30 Thread Wayne Fugitt
Evening Sol, At 08:03 PM 5/30/2008, you wrote: I have to have a PWT (or a COM-100 would work also). Correct me if I'm wrong but the TDS will not measure below 1.0. And I have to have distilled water of purity well below that. Why don't you get a good EC meter and forget all the sales hype

Re: CSTDS meter

2008-05-30 Thread sol
Something here in the water that doesn't easily distill out, means I have to have DW of .1 to .3 uS (if single distilled) or .4 uS if double distilled. Other than that I get yellow CS. Which isn't a disaster, but it isn't what I want either. I prefer water-clear CS. sol Tad Winiecki wrote: I

Re: CSTDS meter, PWT, Why not an EC meter

2008-05-30 Thread sol
Like what? And what misrepresentation of facts? sol Wayne Fugitt wrote: Evening Sol, Why don't you get a good EC meter and forget all the sales hype and misrepresentation of the facts. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing

Re: CSTDS testers, PWT, and EC

2007-06-17 Thread Ode
At 02:32 PM 6/16/2007 -0500, you wrote: Evening Ode, At 07:23 AM 6/16/2007, you wrote: Are there any major differences in these meters. PWT TDS EC I think the PWT meter is mostly a sales gimmick name. If you have pure water, why test it? Seems it should be simply called a Water Tester

Re: CSTds testers

2007-06-16 Thread Ode Coyote
, but it might not be a good idea to hang around and find out. -- (Terry Pratchett, Wyrd Sisters) ---Original Message--- From: Ode Coyote Date: 15/06/2007 14:31:26 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTds testers That's what TDS meters are made for. Metering CS is a mis

Re: CSTds testers

2007-06-16 Thread Dee
:07 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTds testers EC meter ..DA best for DW. Ode At 04:10 PM 6/15/2007 +0100, you wrote: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http

CSTDS testers, PWT, and EC

2007-06-16 Thread CWFugitt
Evening Ode, At 07:23 AM 6/16/2007, you wrote: Are there any major differences in these meters. PWT TDS EC I think the PWT meter is mostly a sales gimmick name. If you have pure water, why test it? Seems it should be simply called a Water Tester Maybe the ranges are different. I realize

CSTds testers

2007-06-15 Thread Dee
Hi all, I've been Googling tds meters and only seem to be able to find ones for either acquarians or plumbing! Anyone any ideas for buying one in the UK please? TIA Dee     --  The calender of the Theocracy of Muntab counts down, not up. No-one knows why, but it might not be a good

Re: CSTds testers

2007-06-15 Thread Ode Coyote
That's what TDS meters are made for. Metering CS is a mis-application, so the readout has to be approximately doubled to get a ballpark idea of PPM in silver water as opposed to salt and hard water. An EC or conductivity meter is a far better meter for CS and can be read straight up

Re: CSTds testers

2007-06-15 Thread Dee
) ---Original Message--- From: Ode Coyote Date: 15/06/2007 14:31:26 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTds testers That's what TDS meters are made for. Metering CS is a mis-application, so the readout has to be approximately Doubled to get a ballpark idea

Re: CSTDS testing

2006-11-20 Thread Ode Coyote
13 PPM on a TDS meter is something like 23-26 uS on a conductivity meter, or around 23-26 PPM silver in silver water. Color has nothing to do with PPM... directly. Ode At 09:10 PM 11/18/2006 -1000, you wrote: I just received a TDS1 meter from Hanna Instruments. I tested a batch that I

Re: CSTDS testing

2006-11-19 Thread Scott
Smitty, My experience has always been the longer it runs the thicker it gets and that is not what we want. The best CS is the clearest, smallest particle you can brew. This is how Terry Chamberlain told us to do it (and it works!): Set your timer. Brew a batch until it starts

CSTDS testing

2006-11-18 Thread Smitty
I just received a TDS1 meter from Hanna Instruments. I tested a batch that I had brewing for 2 hrs and it tested 013 ppm. What would be a good reading in ppm for a brew ? Also, is a darker, longer brewed batch going to test higher ppm ? Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for

Re: CSTDS measurements

2005-12-29 Thread Ode Coyote
A meter that reads out in uS [Microsiemens/cm] isn't a TDS meter. Trem sells the Hanna PWT..it's not a TDS meter. Trem says 1.2 uS/cm to 1 PPM, I say 1 to 1. Saying uS on the meter without the /cm part... is a bit sloppy. TDS meters read out in PPM. The numbers are derived from measuring

Re: CSTDS measurements

2005-12-29 Thread Ode Coyote
], the instructions are complete [they aren't]so don't ask questions Ode - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 9:43 AM Subject: CSTDS measurements I am a little confused on TDS measurements

CSTDS measurements

2005-12-28 Thread Marshall Dudley
I am a little confused on TDS measurements. Trem says that when using the Hanna TDS meter he supplied me for measuring EIS, that the ppm of the molecular ionic part and the reading on the meter are approximately 1:1. The meter says that it is reading uS, but that is a nonsense unit, it has to be

Re: CSTDS measurements

2005-12-28 Thread Trem
To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 9:43 AM Subject: CSTDS measurements I am a little confused on TDS measurements. Trem says that when using the Hanna TDS meter he supplied me for measuring EIS, that the ppm of the molecular ionic part and the reading on the meter

Re: CSTDS measurements

2005-12-28 Thread Marshall Dudley
Trem wrote: Hi Marshall, The TDS reads about one half the ionic silver content so you double the reading. The PWT reads about one to one. Does that make sense? Ah, I am confusing 2 different units, no wonder I was mixed up. Thanks, Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for

RE: CSTDS/PWT, was Re: CSRe: CS and PPM-levels

2005-05-12 Thread Ode Coyote
pure .4 MS. Pardon my mixing of units. I am in a bit of a hurry and do not remember the equivalents. -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 5:15 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTDS/PWT, was Re: CSRe: CS and PPM-levels

Re: CSTDS/PWT, was Re: CSRe: CS and PPM-levels

2005-05-11 Thread Ode Coyote
Most people can start with as high as 5 uS. [2-3 PPM] .4 uS water is extremely pure. The norm is more like .8 to 1.2 uS You [Sol] have a special circumstance. BTW, you are correct. Ode At 12:39 PM 5/10/2005 -0600, you wrote: Yes. Plus it is my understanding that with a TDS the lowest

RE: CSTDS/PWT, was Re: CSRe: CS and PPM-levels

2005-05-11 Thread Jim Holmes
: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 5:15 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTDS/PWT, was Re: CSRe: CS and PPM-levels Most people can start with as high as 5 uS. [2-3 PPM] .4 uS water is extremely pure. The norm is more like .8 to 1.2 uS You [Sol] have a special circumstance. BTW, you are correct

RE: CSTDS/PWT, was Re: CSRe: CS and PPM-levels

2005-05-11 Thread Jim Holmes
Errata: first line, first is should be if. -Original Message- From: Jim Holmes [mailto:ami...@starband.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 11:16 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSTDS/PWT, was Re: CSRe: CS and PPM-levels Some processes yield more CS is the starting PPM

CSTDS/PWT, was Re: CSRe: CS and PPM-levels

2005-05-10 Thread sol
Yes. Plus it is my understanding that with a TDS the lowest possible measurement above 0 is 1. Since 1.0 is too high for starting DW for me to make clear CS, the PWT is best for me. My starting DW needs to be .4 uS or lower so a TDS would not work for me. If this is incorrect, someone please

Re: CSTDS was Re: CSAdrian's questions...

2004-12-14 Thread Ode Coyote
True. The Hanna PWT works better at twice the price..even though it works the same way. The question is, how much do you want to pay for a decimal place when meters in general aren't the right tool for the job and if any two of the same brand and model read the same in the same sample over

Re: CSTDS was Re: CSAdrian's questions...

2004-12-13 Thread adrian
AND that URL fails adrian sol wrote: Ken, I was just at that site earlier, and all I see is a TDS? Now, I know people do use TDS meters for checking CS and DW quality also, but I thought it was really far from ideal. sol Ode Coyote wrote: Try this guy in Kent Town Australia. He has an

CSTDS was Re: CSAdrian's questions...

2004-12-12 Thread sol
Ken, I was just at that site earlier, and all I see is a TDS? Now, I know people do use TDS meters for checking CS and DW quality also, but I thought it was really far from ideal. sol Ode Coyote wrote: Try this guy in Kent Town Australia. He has an inexpensive PPM meter that's pretty

RE: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-11-01 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Weird. So 0.9=0.5 James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 8:01 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTDS/PWT meters That is normally called 3 1/2 digits, not 4. Marshall Trem wrote: Hi

Re: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-11-01 Thread Marshall Dudley
, Holmes wrote: Weird. So 0.9=0.5 James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 8:01 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTDS/PWT meters That is normally called 3 1/2 digits, not 4. Marshall

RE: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-11-01 Thread Ode Coyote
The forth digit is behind the decimal point. Hanna doesn't advertise or mention that it will read xxx.x [four digits] and only shows or mentions readings within its specified range. I was , uh, mistaken about the actual readout. [eyes, assumptions and paranoia working together as a team]

Re: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-31 Thread Trem
a dead horse to me. Trem - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote coyote...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 10:49 AM Subject: RE: CSTDS/PWT meters I'm willing, out of curiosity, to 'determine some idea' of how far off reality is from various stated

RE: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-31 Thread Ode Coyote
I'm willing, out of curiosity, to 'determine some idea' of how far off reality is from various stated views of it. [something within a range in an infinite scale] I've got an odd feeling that no one can say anything that's true about anything. [Nothing that is, except, perhaps, that statement.]

CSChit chat RE: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-31 Thread Ode Coyote
Yup The real stuff with flash floods, downed trees and everthang. But, the suns shining today! [only]...then, freeezing rain! O'boy! All this after a mere 4 months of 99+deg muggy dry and cracked lake beds. laundry day! ken At 11:01 AM 10/29/02 -0800, you wrote: My Gawd! Rain? real

Re: CSTDS/PWT meters [survey?]

2002-10-31 Thread Ode Coyote
OK, on the list Got addresses? Ken At 05:30 PM 10/29/02 -0800, you wrote: Ken: I'd love to see Stephen @ Natural Immunogenics do an analysis and a antibacterial comparison on your best batch... I'd also like to see the characterization done by Frances Key et al w/ silvercolloids.com Both

Re: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-31 Thread Barnbert
Whatever the verbiage-- my PWT does not function, period. Probably the best solution is to replace it and ashcan the present one. But where do I order a PWT? Bob

Re: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-31 Thread Trem
Hi Bob, See http://silvergen.com/ppm.htm Trem - Original Message - From: barnb...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 1:19 PM Subject: Re: CSTDS/PWT meters Whatever the verbiage-- my PWT does not function, period. Probably the best

RE: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-31 Thread J J
Ode Coyote says: snip... The PWT actually has a 4 digit display and pegs out at 999.x uS just before it shows a 1 in the far left saying it can't read that high or any higher. ...snip Ken: You actually have a Hanna PWT with a 4 digit display? The attached PWT.JPG from the Hanna website

RE: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-31 Thread J J
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Re: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-31 Thread Trem
Hi Jimmy Joe, The PWT does go higher than 2 places plus the decimal. It reads up 199.9. See my post to Ken this morning. Trem - Original Message - From: J J mennj...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 3:23 PM Subject: RE: CSTDS/PWT meters Ode

Re: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-31 Thread Ode Coyote
get them properly adjusted. This seems like beating a dead horse to me. Trem - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote coyote...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 10:49 AM Subject: RE: CSTDS/PWT meters I'm willing, out of curiosity, to 'determine

Re: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-31 Thread Marshall Dudley
: Thursday, October 31, 2002 3:23 PM Subject: RE: CSTDS/PWT meters Ode Coyote says: snip... The PWT actually has a 4 digit display and pegs out at 999.x uS just before it shows a 1 in the far left saying it can't read that high or any higher. ...snip Ken: You actually have

Re: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-30 Thread Terry Dickinson
- Original Message - From: Dean Miller dtmil...@midiowa.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 8:33 PM Subject: Re: CSTDS/PWT meters On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:31:25 -5, M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: Specs for my Hanna TDS-1: Range: 0 to 999 ppm Resolution: 1

RE: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-29 Thread Ivan Anderson
of your Hanna meter. in error Ivan. -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, 29 October 2002 6:59 a.m. To: *Silver-List* Subject: RE: CSTDS/PWT meters Sorry Ivan Strange mood and recent encounters with lawyer mentalities in consumer

RE: CSTDS/PWT meters [survey?]

2002-10-29 Thread Ode Coyote
: Tuesday, 29 October 2002 6:59 a.m. To: *Silver-List* Subject: RE: CSTDS/PWT meters Sorry Ivan Strange mood and recent encounters with lawyer mentalities in consumer industry. [Ripped off by ommissive merchandising] It's not me fighting you, it's commentary about how truth can be more

Re: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-29 Thread Roy Thompson
I have a question... I had one of my batches of CS do something really odd. I would like to send a picture so everybody could see it and tell me if anyone ever had this happen. Is it okay to send a picture here? And do I just attach the picture to my message? Not sure on the rules and hows of

RE: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-29 Thread Malcolm Stebbins
My Gawd! Rain? real rain?? I live on the north coast in an area that normally scores 125+inches and so far we've had one light mist; fogged my glasses, had to slow down. Sounds like a case of Coyote Blues: My Prescription is stoke the fire and get book of same title by Chris Moore - works for

Re: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-29 Thread Dean Miller
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:31:25 -5, M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: Specs for my Hanna TDS-1: Range: 0 to 999 ppm Resolution: 1 ppm Accuracy: +/- 10 ppm Typical EMC Deviation: +/- 1% of Full Scale If I interpret this right, my TDS meter should read in steps of 1 ppm, with no decimal point

Re: CSTDS/PWT meters [survey?]

2002-10-29 Thread SilverMedicine.org
Ken: I'd love to see Stephen @ Natural Immunogenics do an analysis and a antibacterial comparison on your best batch... I'd also like to see the characterization done by Frances Key et al w/ silvercolloids.com Both at least have extensive experience working with colloidal silver. Best Regards,

RE: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-28 Thread Malcolm Stebbins
Hey, stop barking! RTFM; the fact that you can find a meter that reads over its nominal full scale - what it says on the 'range' dial that it is competent to read at that position of the 'range' switch - has nothing to do with lawyers or CYA. The 'range' is not the interval of values (call

RE: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-28 Thread Wayne Fugitt
Morning Ken, Last shot at making the point, I promise. Great Message that virtually summed up the history of the world. For nearly every example you gave, I could think of a real world example. Some are very interesting. Maybe later I will have time to spin the yarn on some of

RE: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-28 Thread Ode Coyote
. For the rest of your message I have no answer... it would be easier to just duke it out... your place or mine? Ivan -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, 28 October 2002 4:52 a.m. To: *Silver-List* Subject: RE: CSTDS/PWT meters Hanna's spec

RE: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-27 Thread Ode Coyote
No, not really. They are good for what they're good for. [quantifying repeatablity] They're just not good to fuel an arguement. :-) But they could be cheaper. Ken At 05:36 PM 10/26/02 -0700, you wrote: Sounds like I just wasted $50 on a PWT meter. Ode Coyote coyote...@earthlink.net>

RE: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-27 Thread Ivan Anderson
is the most accurate. For the rest of your message I have no answer... it would be easier to just duke it out... your place or mine? Ivan -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, 28 October 2002 4:52 a.m. To: *Silver-List* Subject: RE: CSTDS/PWT meters

RE: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-27 Thread Ode Coyote
>Hanna's spec reporting is industry standard. >Full scale and range are two different things. The range is a >description of an interval of numbers in which the unit will perform >within spec. Full scale (reading) is largest number within the range. You just said that range and scale are

RE: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-26 Thread Ode Coyote
...@aol.com [mailto:kaselo...@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, 26 October 2002 1:52 p.m. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSTDS/PWT meters please explain to me as simply as posible the difference between the tds meter and the pwt meter when testing CS... we have two tds meters, and they both give totally

RE: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-26 Thread Paul Ladendorf
. Regards Ivan. -Original Message- From: kaselo...@aol.com [mailto:kaselo...@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, 26 October 2002 1:52 p.m. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSTDS/PWT meters please explain to me as simply as posible the difference between the tds meter and the pwt meter when

RE: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-26 Thread Ivan Anderson
-Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:coyote...@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, 27 October 2002 3:55 a.m. To: *Silver-List* Subject: RE: CSTDS/PWT meters Both TDS meters and the PWT do the same thing the same way. Unless colloidal particles are actually touching

CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-25 Thread Kaselonis
please explain to me as simply as posible the difference between the tds meter and the pwt meter when testing CS... we have two tds meters, and they both give totally different readings... if i understand correctly, i need to invest in a pwt meter but i'm not totally understanding why it is

Re: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-25 Thread Paul Ladendorf
My understanding is that the TDS (total DISSOLVED solids) will not measure the colloidal particles as they are suspended not DISSOLVED but will measure the ion content. The PWT measures conductivity which would include colloids and ions. Regards, Paul kaselo...@aol.com wrote:please explain to

RE: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-25 Thread Ivan Anderson
- 99.0 and the readout is in uS. The error is +/- 2uS or a range of 4uS. Regards Ivan. -Original Message- From: kaselo...@aol.com [mailto:kaselo...@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, 26 October 2002 1:52 p.m. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSTDS/PWT meters please explain to me as simply

RE: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-25 Thread Ivan Anderson
...@win.co.nz] Sent: Saturday, 26 October 2002 3:05 p.m. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSTDS/PWT meters Paul has led you astray a bit in his answer :-) Both the TDS (total dissolved solids) meter and the PWT (pure water tester) are conductivity meters. The difference is in the scale

Re: CSTDS-1 versus PWT for measuring PPM

2002-06-12 Thread Richard Sobe
Does it matter if you insert the PWT meter right into the CS that you eventually will end up drinking or is it better to pour some off into another container and use that for the PWT measurement? The PWT is a conductivity meter, right? So that means that it sends a small electrical current

Re: CSTDS-1 versus PWT for measuring PPM

2002-06-12 Thread Gaston Boucher
=== - Original Message - From: Richard Sobe im_numbe...@msn.com To: silverlist silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 8:21 PM Subject: Re: CSTDS-1 versus PWT for measuring PPM Does it matter if you insert the PWT meter right into the CS that you eventually will end up

Re: CSTDS-1 versus PWT for measuring PPM

2002-05-30 Thread Trem
with the same ionic content as our CS. Hope this helps. Trem - Original Message - From: Grant g...@island.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 8:20 PM Subject: CSTDS-1 versus PWT for measuring PPM Hi Trem: `So what's the final formula for the TDS 1

Re: CSTDS-1 versus PWT for measuring PPM

2002-05-30 Thread Grant
@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 8:20 PM Subject: CSTDS-1 versus PWT for measuring PPM Hi Trem: `So what's the final formula for the TDS 1??? `Is it half the pwt reading plus 20%.?? Tks.. Grant

Re: CSTDS-1 versus PWT for measuring PPM

2002-05-30 Thread Trem
enough without having to wait and then apply the correction factor. Remember, this isn't rocket science and close is plenty good enough for most folks. Trem - Original Message - From: Grant g...@island.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 9:49 AM Subject: Re: CSTDS-1

Re: CSTDS-1 versus PWT for measuring PPM

2002-05-30 Thread Grant
to wait and then apply the correction factor. Remember, this isn't rocket science and close is plenty good enough for most folks. Trem - Original Message - From: Grant g...@island.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 9:49 AM Subject: Re: CSTDS-1 versus

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