[Sprinklerforum] Re: Water Supply

2024-05-06 Thread Bob Knight
l set of utility plans is made available the calcs will be adjusted accordingly.  At this point I like the idea of going with the more stringent of the two ideas. I appreciate all the help, and thanks Todd for pointing out the obvious fact that I missed about the static pressure. /Thank you

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Water Supply

2024-05-06 Thread Bob Knight
I don't know where the mains will be. There is no location yet, I have only guessed at what I think they will do. They haven't located where hydrants will be.  All I have is the loop around the building and that there will be piping from the pump house. /Thank you, Bob Knigh

[Sprinklerforum] Water Supply

2024-05-06 Thread Bob Knight
x27;m just going to use the numbers from the pump test and re-verify everything at a future date. Does this sound reasonable? -- /Thank you, Bob Knight, CET III// /*/Fire by Knight, LLC/*/ //208-318-3057/ FIREBYKNIGHT -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. w

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Steel Grating

2024-04-12 Thread Bob Knight
Yes, there is a roof deck above that is sprinklered.  I have put sprinklers below the grating using shields on the sprinklers.  Just second guessing myself. /Thank you, Bob Knight, CET III// /*/Fire by Knight, LLC/*/ //208-318-3057/ FIREBYKNIGHT On 4/12/2024 4:41 PM, Bob Knight wrote: I have

[Sprinklerforum] Steel Grating

2024-04-12 Thread Bob Knight
e member (1 1/2") or the width between openings (15/16") or the actual thickness on the material (1/4")? It's late on a Friday and I'm tired.  Thanks for the help. -- /Thank you, Bob Knight, CET III// /*/Fire by Knight, LLC/*/ //208-318-3057/ FIREBYKNIGHT -- This email

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Protecting underground storage of explosives.

2024-04-05 Thread Bob Caputo
not much more than Class IV products. The problem I see right off the bat, is secondary containment of the sprinkler water runoff. There are super fast deluge systems but not sure deflagration hazards are a good match for subterranian storage opportunities. my two cents Bob Bob Caputo, CFPS

[Sprinklerforum] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: NWD file

2024-03-18 Thread Bob Knight
Craig, Yep, not even pdf's of the building.  At least I could work off those.  As one person just told me, "all I need is a bigger hammer". /Thank you, Bob Knight, CET III// /*/Fire by Knight, LLC/*/ //208-318-3057/ FIREBYKNIGHT On 3/18/2024 4:33 PM, Prahl, Craig wrote: S

[Sprinklerforum] NWD file

2024-03-18 Thread Bob Knight
I was sent a project with a Navisworks file (nwd).  I am being told that this is all there is, that there are no other files.  No CAD, nothing. Has anyone else run into this?  If so, how do you use the NWD file to create sprinkler plans? -- /Thank you, Bob Knight, CET III// /*/Fire by Knight

[Sprinklerforum] SIPS Panels

2024-02-28 Thread Bob Knight
Does anyone have a detail for how to hang to SIPS panels. I have looked at four or five manufactures and none of them have hanging details for any trade, at least not that I have found. -- /Thank you, Bob Knight, CET III// /*/Fire by Knight, LLC/*/ //208-318-3057/ FIREBYKNIGHT -- This email

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Concrete Beams -- NFPA 13, 2016

2024-02-09 Thread Bob Knight
if it is 1' to <18" than it can be no more than 2-1/2" above the tee, and etc /Thank you, Bob Knight, CET III// /*/Fire by Knight, LLC/*/ //208-318-3057/ FIREBYKNIGHT On 2/9/2024 2:37 PM, Jackie Ward wrote: I have 18” wide concrete beams extending 24” from the bottom of t

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Small ESFR system

2024-02-08 Thread Bob Knight
23.4.4.2.5. /Thank you, Bob Knight, CET III// /*/Fire by Knight, LLC/*/ //208-318-3057/ FIREBYKNIGHT On 2/8/2024 9:54 AM, Matt Grise wrote: We are looking at an auto repair facility that has a very small tire storage room (apx 300sf). The tire storage space is open on one side to the misc parts st

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Sprinkler age magazine.

2024-01-28 Thread Bob Caputo
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[Sprinklerforum] Re: Dry System Aux. Drain

2024-01-03 Thread Bob Caputo
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[Sprinklerforum] Re: Definitions

2023-12-11 Thread Bob Caputo
criteria. For example, where fuel fired equipment is located in an otherwise unprotected attic, sprinkler protection is required to be installed above it…. I hope that helps. *Bob Caputo, CFPS* *President* *American Fire Sprinkler Association* c: 760-908-7753 p: 214-349-5965 ext124 w

[Sprinklerforum] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Pressure Regulating Valves Residual Pressures

2023-11-02 Thread Bob Caputo
minimum standard for the design and installation of standpipes which will be used by the first responders – who should be the only one’s deciding the design criteria and the location of equipment to be used in fighting fires. That’s my 2 cents – I hope that helps. bc *Bob Caputo, CFPS

[Sprinklerforum] Re: 1" Armover Restraint

2023-10-19 Thread Bob Caputo
the arm over (but if it’s long enough….) I’m sitting in an airport without a book so there might be other opinions Bob Caputo On Thu, Oct 19, 2023 at 11:35 AM George Medina Jr. < los_amigos_b...@yahoo.com> wrote: > I have an armover that is 2'-4" in length. The SEOR is requ

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Photo

2023-08-17 Thread Bob Knight
Actually, I was thinking "ahh, the good ol' days".  LOL /Bob Knight// / On 8/17/2023 2:20 PM, AKS-Gmail-IMAP wrote: Very well put Joan. I sadly bet every guy on this forum did not notice this. On Aug 17, 2023, at 12:45 PM, Joan Leedy wrote: Huh - no women!😂 Sent from my

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Phantom Flow Location on Subsystem

2023-08-08 Thread Bob Knight
It is added at the point of connection.  So wherever your line connects to the existing system you add an inside hose demand at the most remote point of connection.  Basically, in your case it will be the point that you have connected to the existing grid. /Thank you, Bob Knight, CET III

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Sprinklers in column enclosures

2023-08-07 Thread Bob Knight
/Thank you, Bob Knight, CET III// /*/Fire by Knight, LLC/*/ //208-318-3057/ FIREBYKNIGHT On 8/7/2023 1:21 PM, Fpdcdesign wrote: I am working on a wood framed residential building, with some steel columns, that has a full 13 system (Type V-B construction). The steel columns are 4” diameter and ar

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Impossible head / temperature location (13D)

2023-07-18 Thread Bob Knight
13D has a section that states that it is permissible to use Residential sprinklers outside of their listings in circumstances like yours (see 8.1.3.1.2, 2016).  You may need to a four sprinkler calc instead of 2, if I remember correctly. /Thank you, Bob Knight, CET III// /*/Fire by Knight

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Pump installation over radiant heat floor

2023-06-15 Thread Bob Caputo
engineers Bob Caputo On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 6:15 AM Fpdcdesign wrote: > I am working on an installation where the fire pump is going to be > installed above and already poured radiant heat floor. Outside of not being > able to drill into the floor, is there anything else I should be

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Back-to-back sidewalls at Mar-a-Lago?

2023-06-10 Thread Bob Caputo
see playing out every day – this is not the place for it. Thank you. *Bob Caputo, CFPS* *President* *American Fire Sprinkler Association* c: 760-908-7753 p: 214-349-5965 ext124 w: firesprinkler.org <https://www.facebook.com/firesprinkler.org/> <https://twitter.com/af

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Sidewalls for 18 Inches Down

2023-05-23 Thread Bob Caputo
Sorry, I didn’t see the word, “sidewall” when I responded. I need more sleep 😉 *Bob Caputo, CFPS* *President* *American Fire Sprinkler Association* c: 760-908-7753 p: 214-349-5965 ext124 w: firesprinkler.org <https://www.facebook.com/firesprinkler.org/> <https://tw

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Sidewalls for 18 Inches Down

2023-05-23 Thread Bob Caputo
terial equivalent to the web construction so that individual channel areas do not exceed 300 ft2 (28 m2) But I’m guessing your situation doesn’t meet that definition…. *Bob Caputo, CFPS* *President* *American Fire Sprinkler Association* c: 760-908-7753 p: 214-349-5965 ext

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Need help with a sanity check - Estimate - Open records on safety professionals

2023-04-27 Thread Bob Caputo
primary industry topics. Best regards, Bob *Bob Caputo, CFPS* *President* *American Fire Sprinkler Association* c: 760-908-7753 p: 214-349-5965 ext124 w: firesprinkler.org <https://www.facebook.com/firesprinkler.org/> <https://twitter.com/afsa/status/103952834536773222

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Need help with a sanity check - Estimate

2023-04-26 Thread Bob Caputo
warrant a warning. There can be no pricing discussions or anything close to it. Thank you all and I hope this forum will continue to be a valuable resource for our members! Best regards, Bob *Bob Caputo, CFPS* *President* *American Fire Sprinkler Association* c: 760-908-7753 p: 214

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Sidewall sprinklers for sloped roofs

2023-04-01 Thread Bob Knight
Tony, Never mind. I should have read everything. It says for Residential Applications only. Thank you, Bob Knight, CET III Fire by Knight, LLC 208-318-3057 From: Bob Knight [mailto:b...@firebyknight.com] Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2023 12:20 PM To: 'Discussion list on i

[Sprinklerforum] Re: - NFPA13:2022 pdf version

2023-03-08 Thread Bob Caputo
support. We sit on over 30 standards and have 5 FPE’s on staff. Many of our training programs are available remotely as well. If you visit our website: www.firesprinkler.org you may find our association useful as well. Best regards, Bob *Bob Caputo, CFPS* *President* *American

[Sprinklerforum] Re: - NFPA13:2022 pdf version

2023-03-07 Thread Bob Caputo
having pdf’s and they offer a free trial to try it before you buy it. LINK is the alternative to pdf’s and hard copies. *Bob Caputo, CFPS* *President* *American Fire Sprinkler Association* c: 760-908-7753 p: 214-349-5965 ext124 w: firesprinkler.org <https://www.facebook.

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Once upon a grid...

2023-02-20 Thread Bob Caputo
tell AHJ’s to expect. Bob *From:* Fpdcdesign *Sent:* Monday, February 20, 2023 7:14 AM *To:* Discussion list on issues relating to automatic fire sprinklers < sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> *Subject:* [Sprinklerforum] Re: Once upon a grid... Rule of thumb: if the num

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Roof Hydrant

2022-11-30 Thread Bob Caputo
minimum level of protection – nothing says we cannot or should not do more. Yes, I know I am preaching to the choir with this angle but our codes and standards cannot address every situation specifically and the AHJ probably has a reasonable thought in their request. Just my 2 cents *Bob

[Sprinklerforum] Re: BFP on underground supply

2022-11-18 Thread Bob Caputo
flow, a hydrant or even the annual fire pump test or standpipe flow testing could qualify as the means to perform a forward flow test *Bob Caputo, CFPS* *President* *American Fire Sprinkler Association* c: 760-908-7753 p: 214-349-5965 ext124 w: firesprinkler.org <ht

[Sprinklerforum] Re: BFP on underground supply

2022-11-18 Thread Bob Caputo
of a problem on this one? Bob *Bob Caputo, CFPS* *President* *American Fire Sprinkler Association* c: 760-908-7753 p: 214-349-5965 ext124 w: firesprinkler.org <https://www.facebook.com/firesprinkler.org/> <https://twitter.com/afsa/status/103952834536773222

[Sprinklerforum] Re: NFPA 14 Hose Systems

2022-10-28 Thread Bob Caputo
inal suppression. Much of this needs to be discussed with the municipal AHJ and maybe the insurance company. So, the answer to your question is probably, “depends” Best regards, Bob Caputo, CFPS *It should be noted that the above is my opinion. It has not been processed as a formal interpreta

[Sprinklerforum] Re: ESFR Sprinkler Under Obstruction

2022-10-05 Thread Bob Knight
you, Bob Knight, CET III Fire by Knight, LLC 208-318-3057 From: Luis Perea [mailto:lpe...@demek.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2022 3:19 PM To: 'Discussion list on issues relating to automatic fire sprinklers' Subject: [Sprinklerforum] ESFR Sprinkler Under Obstruction H

[Sprinklerforum] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Pressure on placard greater that static.

2022-09-27 Thread Bob Caputo
California has its own version of NFPA 25, which is enforced statewide. Main Drain tests are annual only in the CA edition. They have lined through the monthly requirement. In addition, the State of California has its own forms which are required whether electronic or paper. *Bob Caputo

[Sprinklerforum] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Pressure on placard greater that static.

2022-09-26 Thread Bob Caputo
get a computer generated report or we take a static read and make believe we had a 10% drop to predict the residual. Just sayin’ *Bob Caputo, CFPS* *President* *American Fire Sprinkler Association* c: 760-908-7753 p: 214-349-5965 ext124 w: firesprinkler.org <ht

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Intumescent Paint

2022-09-01 Thread Bob Caputo
ing it. > > > > Todd G Williams, PE > > Fire Protection Design/Consulting > > Stonington, CT > > 860-535-2080 (ofc) > > 860-554-7054 (fax) > > 860-608-4559 (cell) > > _________ > SprinklerForum mailing list: >

[Sprinklerforum] Open attached corridor in 13R

2022-05-06 Thread Bob Knight
carports, porte cocheres, and stairs that are open and attached"? The ANNEX shows examples that are all pass through corridors. So, I'm questioning myself about the dead end style. Thank you, Bob Knight, CET III Fire by Knight, LLC 208

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Hydraulic Design Information sign

2022-04-22 Thread Bob Caputo
Thank you Mr. Leyton for self-policing and reminding everyone the forum is not the place for advertisements of any kind. The forum is solely for the purpose of peer review information and the exchange of ideas, technical (informal) interpretations of codes and standards. Participants are not per

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Idle Plastic Pallet Storage

2022-04-06 Thread Bob Caputo
. - (4) Minimum ceiling design of OH2 shall be used. Your AHJ should be able to accept this under section 1.5 of whatever edition you’re using *Bob Caputo, CFPS* *President* *American Fire Sprinkler Association* c: 760-908-7753 p: 214-349-5965 ext124 w: firesprinkler.org

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Idle Plastic Pallet Storage

2022-04-06 Thread Bob Caputo
nal consultation or services.* *Bob Caputo, CFPS* *President* *American Fire Sprinkler Association* c: 760-908-7753 p: 214-349-5965 ext124 w: firesprinkler.org <https://www.facebook.com/firesprinkler.org/> <https://twitter.com/afsa/status/1039528345367732224> <https:

[Sprinklerforum] Just a reminder

2022-04-05 Thread Bob Caputo
posted causes me to remind everyone to avoid doing so. Please refer to the material without reproducing it. If need be, to a small snippet *might* be ok [image: Image removed by sender.] *Bob Caputo, CFPS* *President* *American Fire Sprinkler Association* c: 760-908-7753 p: 214-349

[Sprinklerforum] Hose Allowance

2022-03-25 Thread Bob Knight
ndent from one another. So my question is, do we need to include a hose allowance in the hydraulic calculations? Thank you, Bob Knight, CET III Fire by Knight, LLC 208-318-3057 FBK-LOGO-EMAIL _ SprinklerForum mailing l

[Sprinklerforum] Re: Velocity - Rant leeway for the AHJ

2022-03-22 Thread Bob Caputo
out on my statement. *Bob Caputo, CFPS* *President* *American Fire Sprinkler Association* c: 760-908-7753 p: 214-349-5965 ext124 w: firesprinkler.org <https://www.facebook.com/firesprinkler.org/> <https://twitter.com/afsa/status/1039528345367732224> <https://w

[Sprinklerforum] Re: What happened to the Misc. Storage verbage of 14.2.3.1 in the 2019 edition?

2022-03-15 Thread Bob Caputo
2019 incorporated Miscellaneous and Low Piled Storage requirements into the chapters addressing sprinkler technology for storage applications (CMDA, CMSA, ESFR and Rack Storage) as opposed to having its own chapter as it did in 2016 *Bob Caputo, CFPS* *President* *American Fire Sprinkler

[Sprinklerforum] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Velocity - Rant

2022-03-15 Thread Bob Caputo
stuff, as long as you can still remember it *Bob Caputo, CFPS* *President* *American Fire Sprinkler Association* c: 760-908-7753 p: 214-349-5965 ext124 w: firesprinkler.org <https://www.facebook.com/firesprinkler.org/> <https://twitter.com/afsa/status/103952834536773222

RE: Distilled spirits

2022-03-07 Thread Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum
Steve, I suggest looking at the FM Guidelines on distilled spirits, I have a copy somewhere if you need it or any help drinking the evidence Bob Caputo -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Steve Leyton via Sprinklerforum Sent: Monday, March 7, 2022 3:23 PM To

RE: INDOOR SPORTS FACILITY FIELD HOUSE

2022-02-07 Thread Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum
adequate. When I look at the foam in landing pits of gymnasiums or even the bleachers, I'd have a hard time seeing a simple gymnasium as light hazard. This is a personal opinion. Bob Caputo, CFPS President American Fire Sprinkler Association -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforu

RE: swimming pool

2022-02-07 Thread Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum
addressed by NFPA 25 and addressed the corrosive nature of the environment on the sprinklers, but the committee rejected the proposal to omit sprinklers above the indoor pool. Bob Caputo, CFPS President American Fire Sprinkler Association Expand your business with ITM. Professionalize the role of your

Re: UNUSED ATTIC DEFINITION

2022-01-15 Thread Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum
kilos) Bob Caputo, President AFSA On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 9:24 AM tstone52--- via Sprinklerforum < sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote: > The building is new wood frame with insulated roof deck over the Attics. > The > roof pitches range from 8:12 – 12:12. Occupancy is

RE: Open or exterior corridors

2022-01-06 Thread Bob Knight via Sprinklerforum
be omitted, does this make it's not fully sprinklered? No. It is sprinklered throughout per the requirements of that standard. Thank you, Bob Knight, CET III Fire by Knight, LLC 208-318-3057 -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.or

Re: Airing of Grievances

2021-12-29 Thread Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum
or removal from the forum at the discretion of AFSA management and leadership. This is not open to debate. Thank you for your understanding and Happy New Year to one and all. Bob Caputo, President AFSA > On Dec 28, 2021, at 6:03 PM, Bob Caputo wrote: > > Leyton, > > Whi

Re: Airing of Grievances

2021-12-28 Thread Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum
keep comments generic or offline. Thank you, the management Bob Caputo - Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 28, 2021, at 4:01 PM, 321 via Sprinklerforum > wrote: > > Guys, > Having been in this business for almost 50 years, I have learned that the > quality of a Fire Sprinkl

RE: Purpose of Subdividing Dry Systems?

2021-12-21 Thread Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum
is opinion should net be relied upon as consultation. Bob Caputo, CFPS President American Fire Sprinkler Association -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of J H via Sprinklerforum Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2021 1:34 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: J H S

Re: Sprinkler protection in a freezer warehouse - with plastics

2021-12-14 Thread Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum
trays is listed as a Group A plastic in the annex list…. Not sure NFPA 13 has any dark corners, though the color of the new edition is dark gray ;-) Bob Caputo, Lurking the dark corners of Dubai this week AFSA On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 2:49 AM Prahl, Craig/GVL via Sprinklerforum < sprinklerfo

Re: NFPA #30 Containment

2021-12-14 Thread Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum
hope that helps Bob Caputo AFSA On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 4:08 AM James Crawford via Sprinklerforum < sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote: > Hope some can help, I seem to remember there was a time frame of the > sprinkler demand plus largest container in order to figure ou

Re: Mechanical roll-grooved fittings for fire pipe

2021-12-14 Thread Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum
any other brand. As always, the opinions expressed herein are my personal opinions and may not be considered as the opinion of NFPA or its committees. This opinion should not be considered or used as consultation services. Bob Caputo, President AFSA On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 8:55 AM Jamie Seidl

RE: Paint Booth Duct Protection

2021-12-03 Thread Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum
klers and they should be on a separate (independent) control valve. It really depends on the content of the fumes (flammability) Bob Caputo -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Dennis Wilson via Sprinklerforum Sent: Friday, December 3, 2021 10:48 AM To: sprinkler

Re: Paint Booth Duct Protection

2021-12-02 Thread Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum
__ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > -- Bob Caputo, CFPS *President* *American Fire Sprinkler Association* p: 214-349-5965 ext124 w: firesprinkler.org <https://www.face

RE: Shoe store complications

2021-11-16 Thread Bob Knight via Sprinklerforum
ir spec and NFPA 13 (16 ed.) 20.3.3, hope it helps a little bit. Thank you, Bob Knight, CET III Fire by Knight, LLC 208-318-3057 -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Steve Leyton via Sprinklerforum Sent: Tuesday, Novemb

RE: theft of FDC inlets

2021-10-15 Thread Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum
%20department%20connection. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOUMQFSTJ6E Bob Caputo, CFPS President American Fire Sprinkler Association -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of BRUCE VERHEI via Sprinklerforum Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2021 3:12 PM To: e...@bamfordfire.com

RE: Attic protection over a storage occupancy

2021-10-06 Thread Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum
attic. Just my thoughts Bob Caputo Have you visited afsasafetyportal.com yet? It's AFSA's member-only safety resource! This virtual library delivers the accident-prevention and safety-related information you need to educate your staff, help prevent claims, and create a safe work environment

RE: Fire Pump Room Sprinkler Classification

2021-09-13 Thread Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum
NFPA 20 is clear that the pump room is to be protected per EH2. By definition of EH2, the presence of the diesel fuel makes it EH2. See 4.14.1.3 Bob Caputo, CFPS President American Fire Sprinkler Association -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of James Crawford via

RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stub-up Material

2021-08-19 Thread Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum
Not to mention it’s a horrible practice in my opinion Bob Caputo, President American Fire Sprinkler Association -Original Message- From: Prahl, Craig/GVL Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2021 5:07 PM To: Bob Caputo ; sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: John Denhardt Subject: RE

RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stub-up Material

2021-08-19 Thread Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum
position of the AFSA, and/or NFPA or its technical committees. AFSA cannot provide design or consulting engineering services, and this opinion should therefore not be considered, nor relied upon, as such. Bob Caputo, President American Fire Sprinkler Association -Original Message

RE: Material Prices !!

2021-08-05 Thread Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum
you for your understanding. Bob Caputo, CFPS President American Fire Sprinkler Association Get in the (Fitter) Zone! AFSA's "Fitter Zone" features live webinars designed specifically for fire sprinkler fitters. These live presentations are held on Saturdays whenever possible, so yo

Re: [EXTERNAL] RE: Closets and Clearance from Deflector to Storage

2021-07-01 Thread Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum
a forklift so…. Bob Caputo - Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 1, 2021, at 2:52 PM, BRUCE VERHEI via Sprinklerforum > wrote: > > From an old fire guys perspective I’d be more concerned with accidental head > breakage than water dispersal. > > Best. > > >> On 0

RE: Closets and Clearance from Deflector to Storage

2021-07-01 Thread Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum
Pete, You are correct. Where the closet is less than 400 ft3, no clearance is required below the deflector Bob Caputo -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Larrimer, Peter A (HEFP\19HEF) via Sprinklerforum Sent: Thursday, July 1, 2021 10:36 AM To: sprinklerforum

RE: [EXTERNAL] Fire Pump Sprk & Fire Flow Demand

2021-05-19 Thread Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum
considered the opinion of AFSA, NFPA or any technical committee upon which I serve. (13/25/24/291) Bob Caputo -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum On Behalf Of Mark.Phelps via Sprinklerforum Sent: Friday, April 23, 2021 11:47 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Cc: Mark.Phel

Re: Available Pressure from Fire Water Storage Tank

2021-05-07 Thread Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum
😀 On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 11:23 AM Michael Hill via Sprinklerforum < sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote: > There goes my logic, right out the window..again. > > Mike Hill > > -Original Message- > From: Sprinklerforum On > Behalf Of Bob Caput

Re: Available Pressure from Fire Water Storage Tank

2021-05-07 Thread Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum
of that elevation pressure, or do I need to > design and calc as though the tank is nearly depleted? > > -Kyle M > ___ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/lis

Re: Hydrant barrel loss

2021-04-26 Thread Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum
Sincerely you’re measuring the flow and pressure at the hydrant in the first place, why would you need to know that? Just curious... Reverse engineering the water supply in the water main below? On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 3:57 PM Steve Leyton via Sprinklerforum < sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler

Re: [EXTERNAL] Fire Pump Sprk & Fire Flow Demand

2021-04-23 Thread Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum
move water and add pressure, they can’t add water. Again, just my 2 cents wort…. Not be be considered the opinion of NFPA, AFSA or any technical committee nor the formal opinion of the NFPA 13, 24, 291 or 25 committees. Bob Caputo, CFPS President American Fire Sprinkler Association

Re: [EXTERNAL] Fire Pump Sprk & Fire Flow Demand

2021-04-23 Thread Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum
they bring a pump in the engine when they show up - so its more likely you’d need to add a water storage tank if fire flow is the concern. Fire flow is not a NFPA 13 issue but section 11.1.5.3 is. Just adding my 2 cents... Bob Caputo, CFPS President American Fire Sprinkler Association p

Re: Old sprinklers

2021-04-08 Thread Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum
This may have been approved by the local AHJ, which would be the appropriate assumption based on NFPA 25. We are not doing a design analysis. On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 9:34 AM Dale Wingard via Sprinklerforum < sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote: > Sounds like the intent was to protect the

Re: Different Levels of protection open to each other in the same hazard

2021-03-19 Thread Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum
! Bob Caputo, CFPS President American Fire Sprinkler Association p: 214-349-5965 ext124 w: firesprinkler.org <http://firesprinkler.org/> <https://www.facebook.com/firesprinkler.org/> <https://twitter.com/afsa/status/1039528345367732224> <https://www

Re: Different Levels of protection open to each other in the same hazard

2021-03-19 Thread Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum
and the opinion of the writer and may not be considered a formal interpretation of the standard, may not express the opinion of NFPA or its technical committees. Bob Bob Caputo, CFPS President American Fire Sprinkler Association p: 214-349-5965 ext124 w: firesprinkler.org &

4 1/2" FDC

2021-03-18 Thread BOB AKINS via Sprinklerforum
I have a city requiring 4 1/2" FDC and I am having difficulty finding a source SincerelyBob ___ Sprinklerforum mailing list Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org

Re: Question about a drop pipe size

2021-03-18 Thread Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum
NFPA or its technical committees. Best regards, Bob Bob Caputo, CFPS President American Fire Sprinkler Association p: 214-349-5965 ext124 w: firesprinkler.org <http://firesprinkler.org/> <https://www.facebook.com/firesprinkler.org/> <https://twitter.

Re: leaving abandoned sprinkler piping in place

2021-03-17 Thread Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum
NFPA 13, 2019 edition actually addresses this in section 29.2 Bob Caputo, CFPS President American Fire Sprinkler Association p: 214-349-5965 ext124 w: firesprinkler.org <http://firesprinkler.org/> <https://www.facebook.com/firesprinkler.org/> <https://t

RE: Multiple System Calculation

2021-02-11 Thread Bob Knight via Sprinklerforum
at there can be more than one criteria for any given area. Yours just happens to involve two different types of systems each with their own specific area/density criteria. I hope you get this worked out, Bob Knight, CET III Fire by Knight, LLC 208-318-3057 -Original Message-

RE: Multiple System Calculation

2021-02-11 Thread Bob Knight via Sprinklerforum
above. It's a pain in the neck but other than one more step in the calc that's it. Thank you, Bob Knight, CET III Fire by Knight, LLC 208-318-3057 -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Joe Burtell via Spri

Re: Fire Retardant Coating used in Combustible concealed spaces

2021-02-10 Thread Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum
sued over my response - so I know this answer really well Bob Caputo On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 11:44 AM tstone52--- via Sprinklerforum < sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote: > Project is a 100 year old 6 story Steel & Concrete Hotel building. The roof > is steel fram

Re: Distilled Spirits

2021-02-03 Thread Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum
FM Global has a standard for this specifically. I recommend downloading it from their website. Great information that might provide guidance for you. Bob Caputo, CFPS President American Fire Sprinkler Association p: 214-349-5965 ext124 w: firesprinkler.org <h

Re: schedule 7 pipe?

2021-01-20 Thread Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum
in the “damned” area regardless of pitch of pipe or the rating of the gasket used with the coupling (in dry pipe or reaction systems). Bob Caputo > On Jan 20, 2021, at 1:07 PM, Jeff Normand via Sprinklerforum > wrote: > > I have been designing with sch 7 pipe for over 25 yea

RE: CPVC EQ Bracing - 2 hole straps and another question

2020-12-30 Thread Bob Knight via Sprinklerforum
s not exceed the limits of 9.3.4. Thank you, Bob Knight, CET III Fire by Knight, LLC 208-318-3057 -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of J H via Sprinklerforum Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2020 1:24 PM To: sprinkler

RE: CPVC EQ Bracing - 2 hole straps and another question

2020-12-30 Thread Bob Knight via Sprinklerforum
Sprigs do not require sway bracing, but there is this: 9.3.6.6 Sprigs 4 ft or longer shall be restrained against lateral movement. Thank you, Bob Knight, CET III Fire by Knight, LLC 208-318-3057 -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun

Re: Merry Christmas,

2020-12-25 Thread Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum
Thank youSame to you and yours On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 10:38 AM Mario Berrios via Sprinklerforum < sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org> wrote: > Merry Christmas, > mario berrios > ___ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > Sprinklerforum@lists.firesprin

Re: potential freezing in ESFR system

2020-12-22 Thread Bob Caputo via Sprinklerforum
. Just my opinion - and is not intended to represent the opinion of AFSA, NFPA or any NFPA Committee Bob Bob Caputo, CFPS President American Fire Sprinkler Association p: 214-349-5965 ext124 w: firesprinkler.org <http://firesprinkler.org/> <https://www.fac

RE: Sch 40 Sway Bracing

2020-12-18 Thread Bob Knight via Sprinklerforum
That was my answer, I was just hoping. Thank you, Bob Knight, CET III Fire by Knight, LLC 208-318-3057 -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Travis Mack via Sprinklerforum Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 12

Sch 40 Sway Bracing

2020-12-18 Thread Bob Knight via Sprinklerforum
I've been doing this for a while, so I'm about to ask a question that I think I know the answer too. I'm just hoping for a different answer. Is schedule 40 threaded piping 2-1/2" and smaller required to be sway braced? What about 3" threaded? Thank you,

RE: 3D Blocks

2020-12-17 Thread Bob Knight via Sprinklerforum
Probably because the DV-5 is a TYCO valve and not Viking. Thank you, Bob Knight, CET III Fire by Knight, LLC 208-318-3057 -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of JD Gamble via Sprinklerforum Sent: Thursday, December

3D Blocks

2020-12-17 Thread Bob Knight via Sprinklerforum
Does anyone have a 3D block of Vikings DV-5 Deluge Valve in 3 & 4"? I can only find Revit files on their site, and I don't have Revit, so I would need dwg if possible. Thank you, Bob Knight, CET III Fire by Knight, LLC

RE: Domestic Demands 13R

2020-11-12 Thread Bob Knight via Sprinklerforum
why would this be any different? The domestic demand needs to be added only when sharing the water supply from the same line for each individual building. This is not a collective requirement. Thank you, Bob Knight, CET III Fire by Knight, LLC 208-318-3057 -Original Message

RE: Obstruction Clarification

2020-11-11 Thread Bob Knight via Sprinklerforum
JD, I'm not working out of the 19 version yet, but this criteria has been the same or similar for some time. So, the answer is the sprinklers are not required when meeting the conditions you mentioned. Thank you, Bob Knight, CET III Fire by Knight, LLC 208-318-3057 -Original Me

RE: Clearance around all pump equipment

2020-11-05 Thread Bob Knight via Sprinklerforum
One of my top three favorite answers: 1) Because I'm the AHJ. 2) Because I said so. 3) It's in the book. Joking aside. Find out what "book". I'm not aware of additional clearances other than the electrical. Thank you, Bob Knight, CET III Fire by Knight, LLC 20

RE: Hangers for CPVC Pipe going through TGI Joists

2020-09-30 Thread Bob Knight via Sprinklerforum
ts of Table Q." This would include when passing through holes in TJI type joist. Thank you, Bob Knight, CET III Fire by Knight, LLC 208-318-3057 -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hairfield via Sprinkler

RE: Tire Carousel

2020-09-15 Thread Bob Knight via Sprinklerforum
Thanks for the input. Thank you, Bob Knight, CET III Fire by Knight, LLC 208-318-3057 -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Jim Davidson via Sprinklerforum Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2020 3:09 PM To: b

RE: [EXTERNAL] Tire Carousel

2020-09-15 Thread Bob Knight via Sprinklerforum
Based on the limited info that I have, it's open. I'll look at FM and see what they offer. Thank you, Bob Knight, CET III Fire by Knight, LLC 208-318-3057 -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of Prahl, Cra

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