Re: Seamonkey 2.1 --> worst version ever

2011-06-16 Thread cyberzen
MCBastos a écrit : Now and then I click on the wrong status bar icon and open it when what I wanted was another module... what about quitting coffee ? -- cyberzen ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mo

bcc not working

2011-06-16 Thread Ken
Follow-up (at a tangent) to my post just above. I have SM 2.0.14 and Windows 7. Lately I have had occasion to send emails to one person (or group) with bcc copies to one or more others. None of the bccs appears to have arrived. For example, I sent a bcc copy to myself of my previous post h

Re: Type size in browser window/s

2011-06-16 Thread Francesco Presel
Ken ha scritto: I have SM 2.0.14 and Windows 7. For yonks SM hasn't coped with certain browser page displays where there are inserts (windows within the page, and that sort of thing). Often the last line or two of an insert is out of sight when it should be visible. By contrast, the same page a

Re: bcc not working

2011-06-16 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Ken wrote: > Follow-up (at a tangent) to my post just above. I have SM 2.0.14 and > Windows 7. "Just above" to you may be meaningful. To others, it probably isn't. Some may use "Hide read messages" or "sort by date" or "sort by subject". Best to mention the Subject line when referencing other po

Re: Type size in browser window/s

2011-06-16 Thread Ken
Thanks Francesco. That worked well. I located Fonts under Appearance and changed the minimum size from 17 pixels to 14. (Strange. I went to Preferences previously and then Appearance but couldn't see what to do. Something wrong with me besides my eyesight! I need to be instructed, it seem

Re: Type size in browser window/s

2011-06-16 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Ken wrote: > Thanks Francesco. That worked well. I located Fonts under Appearance > and changed the minimum size from 17 pixels to 14. ... > > The browser window of certain sites no longer has hidden lines of > text (that should be visible) in any sub-windows. Unfortunately the > type-size of

Re: bcc not working

2011-06-16 Thread cyberzen
Ken a écrit : Follow-up (at a tangent) to my post just above. I have SM 2.0.14 and Windows 7. Lately I have had occasion to send emails to one person (or group) with bcc copies to one or more others. None of the bccs appears to have arrived. For example, I sent a bcc copy to myself of my previo

Re: Type size in browser window/s

2011-06-16 Thread Francesco Presel
Beauregard T. Shagnasty ha scritto: Ken wrote: Thanks Francesco. That worked well. I located Fonts under Appearance and changed the minimum size from 17 pixels to 14. ... The browser window of certain sites no longer has hidden lines of text (that should be visible) in any sub-windows. Unfo

Re: Wrapping Text Pages

2011-06-16 Thread Rick Merrill
David E. Ross wrote: On 6/13/11 1:13 PM, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 12:04:09 -0700, /David E. Ross/: When I view ASCII text Web pages that have no explicit line breaks in the SeaMonkey browser, the pages are displayed without wrapping. Is there a way to get wrapping? An examp

Re: bcc not working

2011-06-16 Thread Rick Merrill
Ken wrote: Follow-up (at a tangent) to my post just above. I have SM 2.0.14 and Windows 7. Lately I have had occasion to send emails to one person (or group) with bcc copies to one or more others. None of the bccs appears to have arrived. For example, I sent a bcc copy to myself of my previous

Re: A stupid underlined thread

2011-06-16 Thread Rick Merrill
Ray_Net wrote: Daniel wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Some times a see some thread being underlined ... but did not contain any un-readed post. Is it a problem with SM or the server "news.mozilla.org" owning "mozilla.support.seamonkey" ? This situation is ennoying. Hey, Ray, sound to me like you've n

Re: IETab Plus and SM2.1

2011-06-16 Thread Cruz, Jaime
JD wrote: Cruz, Jaime wrote: JD wrote: Cruz, Jaime wrote: Looks like the latest version breaks compatibility with Coral IETab (IETab +). I'll have to wait till the author of Coral IETab fixes this before I can migrate to my main computer. Unfortunately, my company has a LOT of internal website

Newsgroup data crashes SM2.1

2011-06-16 Thread P.N.
Hello! I've got several Gmane newsgroups subscribed. Clicking on one of them makes SM crashing, while the others don't cause any problems. Because it's a specific newsgroup, I'd upload it somewhere for investigation, I think - where can I do this? Kind regards Peter __

Re: Will SM update to 2.1 automatically?

2011-06-16 Thread Daniel
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 6/15/2011 7:23 AM, Daniel wrote: Justin, just to be totally sure, will SM download the upgrade and then ask if I want to install it, or will it tell me an upgrade is available and ask if I want to download it?? That fact depends on prefs (I'm not sure which pref

Re: bcc not working

2011-06-16 Thread Jay Garcia
On 16.06.2011 03:47, Ken wrote: --- Original Message --- > Follow-up (at a tangent) to my post just above. I have SM 2.0.14 and > Windows 7. > > Lately I have had occasion to send emails to one person (or group) with > bcc copies to one or more others. None of the bccs appears to have > arriv

Re: Will SM update to 2.1 automatically?

2011-06-16 Thread Mike C
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 6/15/2011 7:23 AM, Daniel wrote: Justin, just to be totally sure, will SM download the upgrade and then ask if I want to install it, or will it tell me an upgrade is available and ask if I want to download it?? That fact depends on prefs (I'm not sure which pref

Bug in loading pages (?)

2011-06-16 Thread M van Ketel
This week I upgraded to v2.1. But I now experienced several times this 'bug' where I click on a link and nothing seems to happen. The status usually does say first Waiting for www.domainname then (sometimes i see) connecting... and even transfer data from www.domainname... and then... nothi

Re: Type size in browser window/s

2011-06-16 Thread Ken
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: [...] You can always press Control-Plus and Control-Minus to zoom/unzoom individual pages as you encounter them. (Control-Zero to restore your default setting.) That's useful to know. Thanks Beau. - Ken (in Oz) ___ su

Re: bcc not working

2011-06-16 Thread Ken
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: [...] If you look at the source of your sent message, do you see the BCCs listed in the headers? Yes. Did your test send that BCC to a different address than the one used in the TO? No, or it shouldn't have. It was addressed to the same address. Next, a B

Re: bcc not working

2011-06-16 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Ken wrote: > Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: >> [...] If you look at the source of your sent message, do you see the >> BCCs listed in the headers? > > Yes. > >> Did your test send that BCC to a different address than the one used >> in the TO? > > No, or it shouldn't have. It was addressed to

Re: bcc not working

2011-06-16 Thread Ken
Jay Garcia wrote: Check your junk folder or other folder(s) set up to trap spam/junk, etc. I just did that before coming here. There were two Junk messages, one was about viagara, I don't think I noticed what the other one was. I just deleted them one after the other. But I DON'T think th

Re: bcc not working

2011-06-16 Thread Ken
Jay Garcia wrote: Send an email to yourself and BCC to my mail address, rempove NOSPAM from the address. Just did that, Jay. You should (all going well) have it round about now ... - Ken (in Oz) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey

Re: bcc not working

2011-06-16 Thread Ken
Ken wrote: Jay Garcia wrote: Send an email to yourself and BCC to my mail address, rempove NOSPAM from the address. Just did that, Jay. You should (all going well) have it round about now ... Hmm. Jay received by message sent to myself with a bcc to Jay. Good to know, and maybe the whol

Re: Seamonkey 2.1 --> worst version ever

2011-06-16 Thread Robert Kaiser
PhillipJones schrieb: Answer me a Question. How many features have we users begged and plead for developers to keep and they were removed anyway? Fewer than the other way round. And the totally skewed sample of people here in this newsgroup is only a tiny piece of the overall user base. In a

Re: Cookies Manager SM 2.1

2011-06-16 Thread Robert Kaiser
JD schrieb: Robert Kaiser wrote: JD schrieb: In the Data Manager, Cookies tab, when I right mouse click on a Domain, for example, 2o7.net, what does it mean "Forget About This Domain"? Click it and you'll see a tab about all the data it can "forget". Going into the "Forget" tab through this w

Re: Seamonkey 2.1 --> worst version ever

2011-06-16 Thread Robert Kaiser
Rufus schrieb: I was thinking that Opera Mobile would be just the solution for iPad You know that Opera Mobile is not a browser and actually send everything you type in there to a central Opera server (and I'd guess that they try to market the data they're collecting there - I would if I woul

Re: Type size in browser window/s

2011-06-16 Thread Mike C
Francesco Presel wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty ha scritto: Ken wrote: Thanks Francesco. That worked well. I located Fonts under Appearance and changed the minimum size from 17 pixels to 14. ... The browser window of certain sites no longer has hidden lines of text (that should be visible) in

Re: Type size in browser window/s

2011-06-16 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 16/06/2011 07:34, Beauregard T. Shagnasty told the world: Web authors who do not test their pages with various browser-induced font sizes are rampant on the WWW. Little do they know that "the web is not paper." :-) It's a losing battle... There's also those web authors

Re: bcc not working

2011-06-16 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 16/06/2011 10:27, Beauregard T. Shagnasty told the world: Perhaps your ISP (labyrinth?) is sidelining/filtering messages TO you FROM you? With all the haphazard spam filtering going on these days, it may be a possibility. Not to mention Gmail, which will notice two messa

Re: Type size in browser window/s

2011-06-16 Thread WLS
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 16/06/2011 07:34, Beauregard T. Shagnasty told the world: Web authors who do not test their pages with various browser-induced font sizes are rampant on the WWW. Little do they know that "the web is not paper." :-) It's a losing battle... There's also tho

Re: Seamonkey 2.1 --> worst version ever

2011-06-16 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 15/06/2011 22:41, Rufus told the world: ...OTOH, having bought an iPad recently is rapidly changing my work flow/habits re: browsing Usenet and surfing the web - I was thinking that Opera Mobile would be just the solution for iPad, but it doesn't operate with Mail/News in t

Fire FTP Question

2011-06-16 Thread W3BNR
Has anyone installed the FireFTP add-on from the link at: http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html#fireftp ? Hacked version 1.0.7 is listed as being compatible with SM 2.0 and above and seems to install normally, but the pull-down menu for adding accounts does not 'pull-down'. -- Ed http://m

Re: Seamonkey 2.1 --> worst version ever

2011-06-16 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 16/06/2011 05:11, cyberzen told the world: MCBastos a écrit : Now and then I click on the wrong status bar icon and open it when what I wanted was another module... what about quitting coffee ? Joke all you want, but those are closely-spaced 16px icons. It's not that

Re: Seamonkey 2.1 --> worst version ever

2011-06-16 Thread Michael Hannon
Robert Kaiser wrote: In any case, happy to not be in charge any more, makes laughing about this much easier than in earlier times. Robert Kaiser Who's in charge now? I'm sorry to hear you've stopped running the project. Thanks for your work on the browser over the past few years (not to men

Re: Seamonkey 2.1 --> worst version ever

2011-06-16 Thread d...@kd4e.com
So one goes from the Apple-control freaks to the Google careless- security and spy-on-you-privacy freaks. Should we look to Palm for hope? That "users don't need freedom of choice, father knows best" attitude is why, after careful evaluation, I chose to stay away from iOS. I'm very happy with m

Re: Will SM update to 2.1 automatically?

2011-06-16 Thread Mike
Mike C wrote: Where do you find these "prefs"? Is there a place to stop auto updates? SM notifies you a new version is available and asks if you would like to install it or not. Why wouldn't you want that? -- Mike ___ support-seamonkey mailing li

Re: IETab Plus and SM2.1

2011-06-16 Thread JD
Cruz, Jaime wrote: JD wrote: Cruz, Jaime wrote: JD wrote: Cruz, Jaime wrote: Looks like the latest version breaks compatibility with Coral IETab (IETab +). I'll have to wait till the author of Coral IETab fixes this before I can migrate to my main computer. Unfortunately, my company has a LOT

Re: Will SM update to 2.1 automatically?

2011-06-16 Thread JD
Mike C wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 6/15/2011 7:23 AM, Daniel wrote: Justin, just to be totally sure, will SM download the upgrade and then ask if I want to install it, or will it tell me an upgrade is available and ask if I want to download it?? That fact depends on prefs (I'm not s

Re: Seamonkey 2.1 --> worst version ever

2011-06-16 Thread Robert Kaiser
Michael Hannon schrieb: Robert Kaiser wrote: In any case, happy to not be in charge any more, makes laughing about this much easier than in earlier times. Who's in charge now? The collective of the SeaMonkey Council (of which I'm remaining a part, but just as one of multiple people, not as

Re: Seamonkey 2.1 --> worst version ever

2011-06-16 Thread Robert Kaiser
d...@kd4e.com schrieb: So one goes from the Apple-control freaks to the Google careless- security and spy-on-you-privacy freaks. Should we look to Palm for hope? Good joke. Well, HP in that case nowadays, but still. The only bet is to try and get some mobile vendor to go and actually ship so

Re: Will SM update to 2.1 automatically?

2011-06-16 Thread d...@kd4e.com
Is it OK to leave Check checked - so long as Install is unchecked? Or will a checked Check also result in Installation of Updates? -- Thanks! & 73, KD4E David Colburn http://kd4e.com Have an http://ultrafidian.com day I don't google I SEARCH! STARTPAGE.com Shop Freedom-Friendly http://kd4e.co

Re: Type size in browser window/s

2011-06-16 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
WLS wrote: > MCBastos wrote: >> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: >>> Web authors who do not test their pages with various browser-induced >>> font sizes are rampant on the WWW. Little do they know that "the >>> web is not paper." :-) It's a losing battle... >> >> There's also those web authors who

Re: Will SM update to 2.1 automatically?

2011-06-16 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)
d...@kd4e.com wrote: Is it OK to leave Check checked - so long as Install is unchecked? Yes, "Automatically check..." is fine. And if "Download and Install.." is unchecked, you won't incur an automatic install. -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-

Re: Will SM update to 2.1 automatically?

2011-06-16 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: d...@kd4e.com wrote: Is it OK to leave Check checked - so long as Install is unchecked? Yes, "Automatically check..." is fine. And if "Download and Install.." is unchecked, you won't incur an automatic install. Confirmed in my experience. You get nagged, but it d

Re: Lost bookmarks

2011-06-16 Thread Jens Hatlak
bfairey wrote: I recently upgraded to 2.1 but my bookmarks have disappeared, Where are they??? HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker _

Re: Fire FTP Question

2011-06-16 Thread Jens Hatlak
W3BNR wrote: Has anyone installed the FireFTP add-on from the link at: http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html#fireftp ? Hacked version 1.0.7 is listed as being compatible with SM 2.0 and above and seems to install normally, but the pull-down menu for adding accounts does not 'pull-down'.

Re: SeaMonkey 2.1

2011-06-16 Thread Jens Hatlak
PhillipJones wrote: I tried QuoteCollase several Times, and iI always ended up with a wide bar at the bottom where the status bar would be be bout 2" long and width of the screen. After removing it I would have to remove chrome file (which I have forgotten which file with SM off and the restart.

Re: SM 2.1 Bookmark Group Changes...

2011-06-16 Thread Antman008
Jens Hatlak wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: Antman008 wrote: 2) In SM 2.0.x, when I open a group of tabs, my current window would replace the current windows with the Group set. Preferences has a setting that asks you if you want SM to simply add new tabs or perform the replacement as 2.0.x did, and

Re: V2.1 problem in Composer mode

2011-06-16 Thread Helene
NoOp a écrit : On 06/15/2011 01:27 PM, Helene wrote: Hi there, I test-installed v.2.1 yesterday, but was completely unable to use the Composer mode (in Wysiwyg) - the Code page is OK ;) My problem is I mainly use Seamonkey as HTML-editor : it's simple, produces clean HTML and has both WYSIWIG

Re: Will SM update to 2.1 automatically?

2011-06-16 Thread Larry
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: d...@kd4e.com wrote: Is it OK to leave Check checked - so long as Install is unchecked? Yes, "Automatically check..." is fine. And if "Download and Install.." is unchecked, you won't incur an automatic install. Well,this is interesting! I don't have an option like

Re: Fire FTP Question

2011-06-16 Thread W3BNR
On 6/16/2011 5:16 PM Jens Hatlak submitted the following: W3BNR wrote: Has anyone installed the FireFTP add-on from the link at: http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html#fireftp ? Hacked version 1.0.7 is listed as being compatible with SM 2.0 and above and seems to install normally, but the

Re: Will SM update to 2.1 automatically?

2011-06-16 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)
Larry wrote: Well,this is interesting! I don't have an option like that (XP SP3, SM 2.0.14). In fact, I don't have either of these options mentioned in Help: "When Updates To SeaMonkey Are Found" (and submenu), and "Show Update History". Well I verified pref wording with 2.1, the general prefs

Add-Ons that won't update with SM 2.1

2011-06-16 Thread Stan
I am not clear about what I need to do to get three Add-Ons to update. When I installed SM 2.1, six Add-Ons were updated. Three of them did not and in the Add-On Manager they are noted as: is incompatible with SeaMonkey 2.1 The three add-ons are: FxIF, Image Zoom, and StumbleUpon. Thanks S

Re: SM 2.1 Password Manager

2011-06-16 Thread NoOp
On 06/13/2011 09:29 AM, NoOp wrote: > Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20110608 > Firefox/4.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.1 > > Since upgrading from 2.1b2 I have been having odd issues with POP3 email > stored passwords. On this system I've 4 POP3 accounts & occasionally I > get a

Re: V2.1 problem in Composer mode

2011-06-16 Thread NoOp
On 06/16/2011 03:04 PM, Helene wrote: > NoOp a écrit : ... >> I'll admit that I've not used Composer for quite some time. However, >> when I go to http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ and use File|Edit Page >> I can see the page w/o issue in Normal/HTML Tags/Source/Preview. >> I've no problems modifyi

Re: Bug in loading pages (?)

2011-06-16 Thread cmcadams
M van Ketel wrote: This week I upgraded to v2.1. But I now experienced several times this 'bug' where I click on a link and nothing seems to happen. The status usually does say first Waiting for www.domainname then (sometimes i see) connecting... and even transfer data from www.domainname.

Re: Bug in loading pages (?)

2011-06-16 Thread Mort
cmcadams wrote: M van Ketel wrote: This week I upgraded to v2.1. But I now experienced several times this 'bug' where I click on a link and nothing seems to happen. The status usually does say first Waiting for www.domainname then (sometimes i see) connecting... and even transfer data from w

Re: SM 2.1 Password Manager

2011-06-16 Thread Philip Chee
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 17:29:09 -0700, NoOp wrote: > On 06/13/2011 09:29 AM, NoOp wrote: >> Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20110608 >> Firefox/4.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.1 >> >> Since upgrading from 2.1b2 I have been having odd issues with POP3 email >> stored passwords. On th

Re: Seamonkey 2.1 --> worst version ever

2011-06-16 Thread Rufus
Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus schrieb: I was thinking that Opera Mobile would be just the solution for iPad You know that Opera Mobile is not a browser and actually send everything you type in there to a central Opera server (and I'd guess that they try to market the data they're collecting there

Re: Seamonkey 2.1 --> worst version ever

2011-06-16 Thread Rufus
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 15/06/2011 22:41, Rufus told the world: ...OTOH, having bought an iPad recently is rapidly changing my work flow/habits re: browsing Usenet and surfing the web - I was thinking that Opera Mobile would be just the solution for iPad, but it doesn't operate wi

NG = newsgroup

2011-06-16 Thread Keith Whaley
Folks that have been on thes groups for a long time seem to forget others just joining, or not running across a particular acromym, might get confused at the various unknowns from time to time. In Writing 101, it was stressed that the first time you used an acronym in a correspondence, you spe

Add-ons Manager Never Loads

2011-06-16 Thread JD
Tools, Add-ons Manager, Get Add-ons just says Loading. It never loads anything. Plugins doesn't show anything. Extensions and Appearance do work. Have I broken something? -- JD.. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org

Re: SM 2.1 Password Manager

2011-06-16 Thread NoOp
On 06/16/2011 06:26 PM, Philip Chee wrote: > On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 17:29:09 -0700, NoOp wrote: >> On 06/13/2011 09:29 AM, NoOp wrote: >>> Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20110608 >>> Firefox/4.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.1 >>> >>> Since upgrading from 2.1b2 I have been having odd

Re: V2.1 problem in Composer mode

2011-06-16 Thread Barry Edwin Gilmour
Helene wrote: NoOp a écrit : On 06/15/2011 01:27 PM, Helene wrote: Hi there, I test-installed v.2.1 yesterday, but was completely unable to use the Composer mode (in Wysiwyg) - the Code page is OK ;) My problem is I mainly use Seamonkey as HTML-editor : it's simple, produces clean HTML and h

Re: V2.1 problem in Composer mode

2011-06-16 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov
Fri, 17 Jun 2011 00:04:45 +0200, /Helene/: On http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/features#composer is written "SeaMonkey's powerful yet simple HTML editor keeps getting better with dynamic image and table resizing, quick insert and delete of table cells, improved CSS support, and support for p

Re: Bug in loading pages (?)

2011-06-16 Thread cmcadams
Mort wrote: cmcadams wrote: M van Ketel wrote: This week I upgraded to v2.1. But I now experienced several times this 'bug' where I click on a link and nothing seems to happen. The status usually does say first Waiting for www.domainname then (sometimes i see) connecting... and even transfe

Re: Add-Ons that won't update with SM 2.1

2011-06-16 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 16/06/2011 20:50, Stan told the world: I am not clear about what I need to do to get three Add-Ons to update. When I installed SM 2.1, six Add-Ons were updated. Three of them did not and in the Add-On Manager they are noted as: is incompatible with SeaMonkey 2.1 The three

Re: Seamonkey 2.1 --> worst version ever

2011-06-16 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 16/06/2011 22:44, Rufus told the world: That's simply not true. I have the Atomic browser installed on my iPad and like it...and there are others. Atomic is not a full browser either. It does not include its own rendering engine, but uses the iOS Safari one. Essentially