Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2013-01-11 Thread Yu Chen
Then we are going to replace Control Points with Handles. Changes are made in terms_rework_2 branch. -- Sent from my HP Pre3 -- On Jan 11, 2013 15:37, Konstantin Dmitriev wrote: Just in case if someone is not watching this thread - http://synfig.org/forums/viewtopic

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2013-01-10 Thread Konstantin Dmitriev
Just in case if someone is not watching this thread - http://synfig.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=17494#p17494 K. 2013/1/9 Yu Chen : > Thanks. > > The new type_canvas_icon.sif is pushed into my terms_rework_2 branch on > github.com > > > ~ yu > > -- > No one will come, Yu has to make it happen by Yu-

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2013-01-09 Thread Yu Chen
Thanks. The new type_canvas_icon.sif is pushed into my terms_rework_2 branch on github.com ~ yu -- No one will come, Yu has to make it happen by Yu-self. 2013/1/9 David Rylander > Yes, very good one! > -david. > > 2013-01-09 11:54, Konstantin Dmitriev skrev: > > 2013/1/9 Yu Chen : > >> here

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2013-01-09 Thread David Rylander
Yes, very good one! -david. 2013-01-09 11:54, Konstantin Dmitriev skrev: > 2013/1/9 Yu Chen : >> here, another type_canvas_icon proposal (image/sheet concept): >> >> https://www.dropbox.com/s/m4pe4mxm2dal0cn/type_canvas_icon_proposal_4_Screen%20Shot.png > I love this one. It reminds me the cell sh

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2013-01-09 Thread Konstantin Dmitriev
2013/1/9 Yu Chen : > here, another type_canvas_icon proposal (image/sheet concept): > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/m4pe4mxm2dal0cn/type_canvas_icon_proposal_4_Screen%20Shot.png I love this one. It reminds me the cell sheet - http://www.connectedconcepts.net/photos/blog4/tgrsp12140603.gif ^__^ K.

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2013-01-09 Thread Yu Chen
here, another type_canvas_icon proposal (image/sheet concept): https://www.dropbox.com/s/m4pe4mxm2dal0cn/type_canvas_icon_proposal_4_Screen%20Shot.png ~ yu -- No one will come, Yu has to make it happen by Yu-self. 2013/1/9 Carlos López González > Choosing between the three proposals I like

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2013-01-08 Thread Carlos López González
Choosing between the three proposals I like the number 1. Cheers! 2013/1/9 Konstantin Dmitriev > 2013/1/9 Yu Chen : > > Done, thanks Carlos. > > > > > > I made more type canvas icon proposals, pls see the screenshot > > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/essa47a1t7ysezk/type_canvas_icon%20proposal.png

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2013-01-08 Thread Konstantin Dmitriev
2013/1/9 Yu Chen : > Done, thanks Carlos. > > > I made more type canvas icon proposals, pls see the screenshot > https://www.dropbox.com/s/essa47a1t7ysezk/type_canvas_icon%20proposal.png > > Which one do you prefer? I think that the folder is not a good as canvas icon. I think image concept fits h

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2013-01-08 Thread Yu Chen
Done, thanks Carlos. I made more type canvas icon proposals, pls see the screenshot https://www.dropbox.com/s/essa47a1t7ysezk/type_canvas_icon%20proposal.png Which one do you prefer? 2013/1/9 Carlos López González > > > 2013/1/8 Yu Chen > >> >> On my terms_rework_2 branch, I found an other a

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2013-01-08 Thread Carlos López González
2013/1/8 Yu Chen > > On my terms_rework_2 branch, I found an other annoying issue regarding > Layers and Sets Panels which didn't appear in stable version: > > 1) Add a layer to a Set by using rightclick menu on a layer "Add Layers to > Set" > 2) The Set Panel will popup (activated), > 3) Goback

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2013-01-08 Thread Yu Chen
2013/1/8 Konstantin Dmitriev > Tested, works fine, thank you! > > Regarding to my request... > > DIY mode: ON. > > Here's the pull request: https://github.com/jcome/synfig/pull/3 > Thanks, merged. I update the type_canvas_icon as well, screenshot: https://www.dropbox.com/s/apaadtoaugwtmrb/type_

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2013-01-07 Thread Konstantin Dmitriev
2013/1/7 Yu Chen : > Thanks Carlos, now the internal names of these panels are reverted: > > - Library Panel > - Graph Panel > - Set Panel > - Parameters Panel > > the hack function to map renamed panels is not needed and removed as well. Tested, works fine, thank you! Regarding to my request...

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2013-01-07 Thread Yu Chen
Thanks Carlos, now the internal names of these panels are reverted: - Library Panel - Graph Panel - Set Panel - Parameters Panel the hack function to map renamed panels is not needed and removed as well. Cheers! ~ yu -- No one will come, Yu has to make it happen by Yu-self. 2013/1/7 Carlos

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2013-01-07 Thread Carlos López González
The attached patch fixes the Connect issue. It triggers another problem caused by the hack function made to load properly the seetings file when started Synfig Studio for the first time after renaming. If the children dock internal name is not changed (as per my patch) there is not need of the hack

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2013-01-07 Thread Carlos López González
Yes please. Open the bug issue. I think that I know the cause. I'll comment directly to Jcome's github branch. https://github.com/jcome/synfig/commit/841dc18d3174d6c45351e9e5d2e04380c28b4c19#commitcomment-2392580 Cheers! 2013/1/7 Konstantin Dmitriev > Hi! > > I have discovered a significant bu

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2013-01-06 Thread Konstantin Dmitriev
Hi! I have discovered a significant bug today. Since the Children Panel renamed to Library I can't link exported values to params anymore. Steps to reproduce: 1. Open file which have some exported value 2, Select exported item in the Library panel 3. Right-click some parameter of the same type in

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2013-01-06 Thread Konstantin Dmitriev
2013/1/7 Yu Chen : > Sorry, after play with this branch of Synfig Studio, I found: > > for the type_canvas, It seems out of the flat and symbolic style of > parameter types, and the icon you used is for imported image layer, I don't > think it make sense for a canvas. > > for the library_icon, same

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2013-01-06 Thread Yu Chen
2013/1/6 Yu Chen > > Updated pull request is here: >> https://github.com/jcome/synfig/pull/2 > > > merged. > > I like the change of library_icon :) > Sorry, after play with this branch of Synfig Studio, I found: for the type_canvas, It seems out of the flat and symbolic style of parameter types,

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2013-01-06 Thread Dave Jeffery
Definitely; you don't need the word spline at all. Dave -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,2

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2013-01-06 Thread Konstantin Dmitriev
Hi! I continued testing the latest branch and now I have another proposal for change. Please look at the attached screenshot. The strings like "Create Advanced Outline Spline" sound a bit clumsy. So my proposal is to remove word "Spline" at the end: * "Create Outline Spline" -> "Create Outline" *

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2013-01-06 Thread Konstantin Dmitriev
2013/1/6 Yu Chen : > >> Updated pull request is here: >> https://github.com/jcome/synfig/pull/2 > > > merged. > > I like the change of library_icon :) Ah, I see now. My changes influenced the library icon. ^__^ Thank you! K. -- http://morevnaproject.org/ --

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2013-01-05 Thread Konstantin Dmitriev
Library icon? 05.01.2013 21:13 пользователь "Yu Chen" написал: > > Updated pull request is here: >> https://github.com/jcome/synfig/pull/2 > > > merged. > > I like the change of library_icon :) > > ~yu > > > -- > Master V

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2013-01-05 Thread Yu Chen
> Updated pull request is here: > https://github.com/jcome/synfig/pull/2 merged. I like the change of library_icon :) ~yu -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, Java

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2013-01-05 Thread Konstantin Dmitriev
Hi! > Remember that "vector" is not the whole metaphor. It is more for 2D > coordinate than for vector (in many cases vector means direction and length, > which is not the case here). I absolutely agree here. > This is my proposal for the vector type icon: > https://www.dropbox.com/s/rac42lhwfzo

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2013-01-04 Thread Yu Chen
2013/1/4 Carlos López González > Escuse me but there is not point on have action_add_to_group icon since it > is now renamed to action_add_to_set icon. That action for Groups (old Paste > Canvas) doesn't exist. If I remember correctly there is only one related > action to layers that was the old

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2013-01-04 Thread Carlos López González
Escuse me but there is not point on have action_add_to_group icon since it is now renamed to action_add_to_set icon. That action for Groups (old Paste Canvas) doesn't exist. If I remember correctly there is only one related action to layers that was the old "encapsulate" that is named as "Group" bu

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2013-01-04 Thread Yu Chen
and the menu, https://www.dropbox.com/s/d1x7jn1qnnekw5e/terms%20rework%20-%20popup%20menu%20Screen%20Shot%202013-01-04.png And don't forget we should also consider those four actions icons: add/remove to/from set, add to/from group. Sorry for spamming the list :( 2013/1/4 Yu Chen > Hi, for

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2013-01-04 Thread Yu Chen
Hi, for better understanding, I upload the icons and the screenshot for your reference. [the icons] https://www.dropbox.com/s/3lekgjb5tv8e2y0/terms%20rework%20icons%2020130104.png [the screenshot] https://www.dropbox.com/s/kqlbf3floiny7gg/terms%20rework%20icons%20Screen%20Shot%202013-01-04.png ~

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2013-01-04 Thread Dave Jeffery
Does this sort of thing look like a pile of layers, if you changed the design? http://www.easyicon.cn/icondetail/19934/ On 4 January 2013 11:47, wrote: > Hi, > > Yes, there is a new (Layer) Set icon designed, which inherent from Layer > icon, and is totally different than old one (blue folder)

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2013-01-04 Thread jcomee
Hi,Yes, there is a new (Layer) Set icon designed, which inherent from Layer icon, and is totally different than old one (blue folder). I sent a picture listed all related icons here few days before( sorry I cannot attach the picture at the moment via my mobile phone mail client.-- Sent from my HP P

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2013-01-04 Thread jcomee
This one? http://www.easyicon.cn/icondetail/542174/For my taste, I prefer folder(retouched) to box. The box is used for library already :(-- Sent from my HP Pre3On Jan 4, 2013 15:13, Konstantin Dmitriev wrote: 2013/1/4 Dave Jeffery : > I'll play with the binaries and give you my thoughts. But what

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2013-01-04 Thread Carlos López González
Hi all! Just one remark. Please don't forget the focus of the icon metaphor. Regarding to color, please consider to run Synfig Studio in a b&w monitor and check if each icon-metaphor is still readable. Remember that "vector" is not the whole metaphor. It is more for 2D coordinate than for vector (i

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2013-01-03 Thread Konstantin Dmitriev
2013/1/4 Dave Jeffery : > I'll play with the binaries and give you my thoughts. But whatever happens > that box icon is UGLY ^__^ !!! Then it have to be reworked. ^__^ 2013/1/4 Yu Chen : > Don't make me wrong. I am open for the group icon. Since I am not a "daily" > synfig user, my thoughts maybe

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2013-01-03 Thread Yu Chen
2013/1/4 Konstantin Dmitriev > We MUST make icon DIFFERENT. > So, please, take your time, download the packages, play with the > version containing the blue folder icon and post your feedback. > Hi Don't make me wrong. I am open for the group icon. Since I am not a "daily" synfig user, my thou

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2013-01-03 Thread Dave Jeffery
I wasn't aware of the changes to the group concept - obviously that does change things completely. I'll play with the binaries and give you my thoughts. But whatever happens that box icon is UGLY ^__^ !!! On 4 January 2013 06:08, Konstantin Dmitriev wrote: > Hi! > > 2013/1/4 Yu Chen : > > 2013/1

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2013-01-03 Thread Konstantin Dmitriev
Hi! 2013/1/4 Yu Chen : > 2013/1/4 Dave Jeffery >> >> I agree with Konstantin on one icon and with Yu on the other! >> >> A flat ball in green in Synfig Studio means a position duck to me, so I'm >> used to it representing positions. A green disc in the parameters panel >> represents seems very lo

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2013-01-03 Thread Yu Chen
2013/1/4 Dave Jeffery > I agree with Konstantin on one icon and with Yu on the other! > > A flat ball in green in Synfig Studio means a position duck to me, so I'm > used to it representing positions. A green disc in the parameters panel > represents seems very logical to me, particularly when it

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2013-01-03 Thread Dave Jeffery
I agree with Konstantin on one icon and with Yu on the other! A flat ball in green in Synfig Studio means a position duck to me, so I'm used to it representing positions. A green disc in the parameters panel represents seems very logical to me, particularly when it represents a green duck on the c

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2013-01-03 Thread Yu Chen
2013/1/4 Konstantin Dmitriev > Blame me as conservator, but for my eye this look - > https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15516795/synfig-v2.png > is much more pleasing than this > https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15516795/synfig-v1.png > ^__^ > >From my point of view, the old version of vector icon was a mistake I

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2013-01-03 Thread Konstantin Dmitriev
2012/12/31 Yu Chen : > > > 在 2012年12月30日星期日,Konstantin Dmitriev 写道: > >> 2012/12/29 Konstantin Dmitriev : >> > 2012/12/29 Yu Chen : >> >> yes, terms_rework_2 branch is the final one. >> >> >> >> for terms-rework branch, it was the initial work, and after I got the >> >> comments from Carlos and you

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-12-30 Thread Yu Chen
在 2012年12月30日星期日,Konstantin Dmitriev 写道: > 2012/12/29 Konstantin Dmitriev >: > > 2012/12/29 Yu Chen >: > >> yes, terms_rework_2 branch is the final one. > >> > >> for terms-rework branch, it was the initial work, and after I got the > >> comments from Carlos and you, I decided to create a new bran

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-12-30 Thread Konstantin Dmitriev
2012/12/29 Konstantin Dmitriev : > 2012/12/29 Yu Chen : >> yes, terms_rework_2 branch is the final one. >> >> for terms-rework branch, it was the initial work, and after I got the >> comments from Carlos and you, I decided to create a new branch instead of >> terms-rework branch to have a more clea

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-12-29 Thread Konstantin Dmitriev
2012/12/29 Yu Chen : > yes, terms_rework_2 branch is the final one. > > for terms-rework branch, it was the initial work, and after I got the > comments from Carlos and you, I decided to create a new branch instead of > terms-rework branch to have a more clean commits. OK, got it. ^__^ Building th

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2012-12-29 Thread Yu Chen
yes, terms_rework_2 branch is the final one. for terms-rework branch, it was the initial work, and after I got the comments from Carlos and you, I decided to create a new branch instead of terms-rework branch to have a more clean commits. I am really new on git tool :( ~ yu -- No one will come,

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-12-29 Thread Konstantin Dmitriev
2012/12/22 Yu Chen : > 2012/12/2 Konstantin Dmitriev >> >> I've made my comment there too. ^__^ > > > It is done now[1], the old panels name (params, groups, children) in > settings file saved by _old_ version of Synfig Studio are now mapped to new > ones(parameters, sets, library), hence the upgr

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-12-24 Thread Konstantin Dmitriev
2012/12/22 Yu Chen : > 2012/12/2 Konstantin Dmitriev >> >> I've made my comment there too. ^__^ > > > It is done now[1], the old panels name (params, groups, children) in > settings file saved by _old_ version of Synfig Studio are now mapped to new > ones(parameters, sets, library), hence the upgr

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-12-22 Thread Yu Chen
2012/12/2 Konstantin Dmitriev > I've made my comment there too. ^__^ > It is done now[1], the old panels name (params, groups, children) in settings file saved by _old_ version of Synfig Studio are now mapped to new ones(parameters, sets, library), hence the upgrade users' GUI is not messy up.

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-12-01 Thread david rylander
This went out before it was finished... I'll find some examples and get back... Den 1 dec 2012 18:59 skrev "David Rylander" : > > 2012-12-01 18:42, Konstantin Dmitriev skrev: >> >> BTW, can I take a chance and ask to create a custom icon for "Make Bine/Region" button? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1551

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-12-01 Thread Konstantin Dmitriev
Hi! 2012/12/1 Yu Chen : > Hi I am trying to improve the changes according to the comments by Carlos on > my previous job in a new branch[1]. > > As Carlos mentioned[2], this terms rework might broke the settings file > saved in previous session. That means after updated from a old version, user >

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-11-30 Thread Konstantin Dmitriev
Hello everyone! I am ready to get back to this topic and have some work already done now. First, let me remind our plan: == 1. I will install AprovedRevs extension to the wiki (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Approved_Revs). The i

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-11-29 Thread Yu Chen
Hi Carlos, Thanks for taking your time on my unprofessional code, I am doing a new branch according to some of your comments for more clear code commits. Cheers! Yu ~ yu -- No one will come, Yu has to make it happen by Yu-self. 2012/11/27 Carlos López González > Hi! > I've added several co

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2012-11-26 Thread Carlos López González
Hi! I've added several comments on github. Please check out them. Please don't get me wrong. I'm looking just for excellence in our behavior. Good work Jcome! Greetings Carlos 2012/11/27 Yu Chen > Hi All, > > The code is ready for test, > https://github.com/jcome/synfig/tree/terms-rework > > Yo

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2012-11-26 Thread Yu Chen
Hi All, The code is ready for test, https://github.com/jcome/synfig/tree/terms-rework You can clone to build and test it if it interests you. And the new icons in the above rep are not decided yet, I am working on it. Cheers! Yu ~ yu -- No one will come, Yu has to make it happen by Yu-self.

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2012-11-20 Thread Carlos López González
Hi Yu, Yes, that would be the best solution. Make those strings translatable in the right place, not in the type_name function. You can remove the translatable strings marks (the N_(...) macros) and add a switch case code inside the type_local_name, repeating the types again. It is not the ideal s

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2012-11-20 Thread Yu Chen
Hi Carlos, ValueBase::type_name() is used when saving canvas,and it will be written in sif file, and it is used in savecanvas.cpp only. How about to make it non-localizable string? And instead, we can make some changes to make ValueBase::type_local_name() localizable, in UI part we should always u

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2012-11-18 Thread Carlos López González
Hi Yu, I don't know right now what's the best solution for that. I think that we are trying to fix the fact that some of the translatable strings are types and then we are worried that they are shown on the GUI when using the non translated version of Synfig Studio. Your proposal is to "rename" th

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2012-11-18 Thread Yu Chen
2012/11/5 Carlos López González > We should change the code to use the localized version of the parameter > name instead of the type name when the English version of Synfig Studio ... > when running the non translated version of Synfig Studio, must be other > than the literal string of the typ

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2012-11-18 Thread Yu Chen
Thanks Carlos, That's right to don't touch synfig core code for the UI changes. To solve it, I just insert a new line to canvastreestore.cpp after L210[1]: if(stype== "bline_point") {stype=_("spline_point");} Let's take a look at value.cpp L270[2], all the types are marked as translatable s

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2012-11-04 Thread Carlos López González
There is not problem in open a sif file created with any translated version of SynfigStudio using the translated one or the native English one. The key thing is in the cell renderer that uses the parameter keyname when the translatable string is not available. We should change the code to use the l

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2012-11-04 Thread jcomee
I can't believe that :) Do you try to open sif file created by translated synfigstudio in english version synfigstudio ?-- Sent from my HP Pre3On Nov 5, 2012 0:18, Carlos López González wrote: I don't see that problem in my Spanish version:See attached image.As you can see, it is even bad translat

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-11-04 Thread Carlos López González
I don't see that problem in my Spanish version: See attached image. [image: Imágenes integradas 1] As you can see, it is even bad translated! "Punto de Línea Bézier" is OK but "Punto de línea Beizer (Componer)" is wrong!!! ^__^'' Every thing is translatable, I think, so nothing is needed to change

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2012-11-04 Thread Yu Chen
It is impossible to rename it in the UI without change in core, see below: NameValue Type Vertex001 | Spline Point | bline_point(Composite) Once we change the bline_point(Composite) to spline_point, sif files saved by new synfigstudio will be changed and can not be open by old

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2012-11-04 Thread Carlos López González
There wont be renaming in the core code. Just change the interface, that is, the layer parameter vocabulary *only* at the local names of each parameter. Cheers Carlos El 04/11/2012 08:59, "Yu Chen" escribió: > Hi, > > There is a question need your help: > > If bline_point, the type name of Spline

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2012-11-04 Thread Yu Chen
Hi, There is a question need your help: If bline_point, the type name of Spline Point (BLine Point) parameter, is renamed to spline_point according to the change of term "BLine" . Then, due to the type is written in sif file, the old version of Synfig Studio will not be able to open sif file sav

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2012-10-29 Thread Yu Chen
Typo :) 2012/10/29 Yu Chen > and left your thoughts, thank you so much. *leave* your thoughts, thank you so much. -- The Windows 8 Center - In partnership with Sourceforge Your idea - your app - 30 days. Get started!

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2012-10-29 Thread Yu Chen
Hi there, I the code for terms renaming is almost there, I am testing on my machine. It seems there are still some issues to be fixed before sending a pull request to master repository of synfig. You know, there are some icons related have to be updated/redesigned as well. I have uploaded my work

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2012-10-21 Thread Yu Chen
Thanks Carlos, Then I use "Group" for both Inline and Paste Layer. ~ yu 2012/10/22 Carlos López González > Hi jcome! > welcome to the coding! > > I think that the code shown is to obtain the local name of the layer. > The layer nature doesn't change when the canvas parameter null, inline >

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2012-10-21 Thread Carlos López González
Hi jcome! welcome to the coding! I think that the code shown is to obtain the local name of the layer. The layer nature doesn't change when the canvas parameter null, inline or exported. In all the cases the local name of the layer is "Group" Other thing is what should the parameter canvas show wh

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2012-10-21 Thread Yu Chen
Hi I am doing it. 2012/5/30 Zelgadis > Encapsulate -> Group (icon needs to be reworked: box or folder) > Paste Canvas layer -> Group layer (icon needs to be reworked: same as > above) > For "Paste Canvas" and "Inline Canvas", I have one question, should we expose the difference of them or jus

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-08-30 Thread Konstantin Dmitriev
Hi, Yu! I guess it's me who blocking the progress, because we need to complete step 1 and 2 first (they are assigned to me). I'm afraid that I will be able to work on that only after release of Morevna demo.My apologies for delay! K. 2012/8/30 Carlos López González : > Hi Yu! > I'm sure that final

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2012-08-30 Thread Carlos López González
Hi Yu! I'm sure that finally you'll manage your time properly and you'll be back soon standing on Syfig's ground! Meanwhile, good luck! :) 2012/8/30 Yu Chen > Dear all, > > I don't forget this, but the resource of mine is quite limited during > these days, the plan has to be paused till I can

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2012-08-30 Thread Yu Chen
Dear all, I don't forget this, but the resource of mine is quite limited during these days, the plan has to be paused till I can manage my time. I am sorry for the delay. And don't make me wrong, if anyone would like to contribue and take this task, please do, and it would be appreciated. ~ yu

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2012-06-21 Thread Carlos López González
Thank you Jcome, although it is just a find and replace task I'm now fully concentrated on find a road for Cairo render implementation and I won't start anything else even if it is tiny. It looks like I'm finding finally one way to go to have Cairo render on Synfig. Although it will take time to im

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-06-21 Thread Zelgadis
2012/6/22 Yu Chen : >> >> Hi, Yu! >> It is me who guilty for the delay - I still haven't got my hands to >> wiki works (steps 1 and 2). >> I'm really sorry for that, but I believe you all understand my reasons. >> ^__^ > > > I'm sure all of us all know your reasons :) that is why I raised my hand.

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-06-21 Thread Yu Chen
> > > Hi, Yu! > It is me who guilty for the delay - I still haven't got my hands to > wiki works (steps 1 and 2). > I'm really sorry for that, but I believe you all understand my reasons. > ^__^ > I'm sure all of us all know your reasons :) that is why I raised my hand. > But if you willing to

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-06-21 Thread Zelgadis
2012/6/22 Yu Chen : > Hello friends > > > How is it going? I know all of you are busy, as well as I. Recently I've > been focusing on my life maters, but there will be some time I can spend on > synfig project next month. I would like to take it on some tasks of this > terms renaming project, inclu

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-06-21 Thread Yu Chen
Hello friends How is it going? I know all of you are busy, as well as I. Recently I've been focusing on my life maters, but there will be some time I can spend on synfig project next month. I would like to take it on some tasks of this terms renaming project, including code changing and related i

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-05-30 Thread Timothée Giet
2012/5/30 Zelgadis > OK, I guess it's time for "dictator decision" and I'm going to take > this responsibility. ^___^ > > Right! > The Synfig terminology will be reworked in following way: > > Duck -> Control Point > Curves panel -> Graphs panel > Encapsulate -> Group (icon needs to be reworked

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-05-30 Thread Yu Chen
在 2012年5月30日星期三,Zelgadis 写道: > OK, I guess it's time for "dictator decision" and I'm going to take > this responsibility. ^___^ > > The Synfig terminology will be reworked in following way: > > Duck -> Control Point > Curves panel -> Graphs panel > Encapsulate -> Group (icon needs to be reworked:

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-05-30 Thread Zelgadis
OK, I guess it's time for "dictator decision" and I'm going to take this responsibility. ^___^ The Synfig terminology will be reworked in following way: Duck -> Control Point Curves panel -> Graphs panel Encapsulate -> Group (icon needs to be reworked: box or folder) Paste Canvas layer -> Group l

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-05-27 Thread Zelgadis
Hi! 2012/5/27 Carlos Lopez Gonzalez : > My reasons: ... > BLinePoint>Spline item > Why this change? for coherence with future suggested Width item and existing > Dash item. All them belong to a list like value node so compose it by > "items" is the right way to me to call them. > > Vertex>Vertex >

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-05-26 Thread Carlos Lopez Gonzalez
My reasons: Duck>Handle As nikitakit, I don't have confusion with handle as verb. Used after the noun it is always one adjetive to me. I recognize that Control point is much more common name and it will be easier to translate in any language. Specially in Spanish, "handle" is as hard to transla

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-05-26 Thread Nikita Kitaev
1. I don't find "Shape Tool" to be confusing at all. The verb "shape" is mostly used with abstract concepts ("to shape a statement"), and sometimes for 3D objects ("to shape a piece of clay"). In the context of 2D animation, I wouldn't think of it as a verb. Plus, the icon on the toolbox helps iden

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-05-26 Thread Zelgadis
2012/5/26 Yu Chen : > BLine > line > BlinePoint > point > BLine tool > Line tool > ... > With Line tool, user can create a list of ordered points to define polyline > or spline, this line defines an Outline (Outline layer), or a contour line > (Region layer). All the points you just created are lis

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-05-26 Thread Zelgadis
2012/5/25 Carlos Lopez Gonzalez : > Then I wonder... what is bad with Curves panel? The reason to rename Curves > panel is due to the confusion with Curve as geometrical definition but if we > agree on call it Spline, what's bad with curves?. Graphs is a more generic > meaning. You can have a graph

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-05-26 Thread Yu Chen
The Shape tool is not bad, but I still prefer Line tool to it. Some time user don't want to create a shape but a path, for example, a path of animation action. With Line tool, user can create a line, then it can be defined as a path of action, an outline, a shape, or what ever he want. ~ yu

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-05-26 Thread Yu Chen
~ yu 2012/5/25 Carlos Lopez Gonzalez > Summary of the situation: > Waiting the opinion from Yu that is still remaining to be filled, we have > agreement on: > > Curves panel -> Graphs panel > Encapsulate->Group > Paste Canvas layer -> Group layer > Group -> Set > Add/remove from Group->Add/rem

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-05-25 Thread Carlos Lopez Gonzalez
rowse/curve and mathematically, a curve is a representation of a equation of a single variable (our case) Carlos De: Zelgadis Para: synfig-devl@lists.sourceforge.net Enviado: Viernes 25 de Mayo de 2012 18:12 Asunto: Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs 2012

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-05-25 Thread Zelgadis
2012/5/25 Carlos Lopez Gonzalez : > Summary of the situation: > Waiting the opinion from Yu that is still remaining to be filled, we have > agreement on: > > Curves panel -> Graphs panel > Encapsulate->Group > Paste Canvas layer -> Group layer > Group -> Set > Add/remove from Group->Add/remove from

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-05-24 Thread Carlos Lopez Gonzalez
Summary of the situation: Waiting the opinion from Yu that is still remaining to be filled, we have agreement on: Curves panel -> Graphs panel Encapsulate->Group Paste Canvas layer -> Group layer Group -> Set Add/remove from Group->Add/remove from Set Params ->Parameters Children->Library CPoint-

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-05-23 Thread Zelgadis
2012/5/23 David Rylander : > 2012-05-23 06:37, Zelgadis skrev: >> Well, after reading the documentation I still come to conclusion that >> "control point" is still better than "handle". Let's see by example >> from the same page: > I agree. Handle indicates the sometrhing to grab and move to alter

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-05-23 Thread David Rylander
2012-05-23 06:37, Zelgadis skrev: > Well, after reading the documentation I still come to conclusion that > "control point" is still better than "handle". Let's see by example > from the same page: I agree. Handle indicates the sometrhing to grab and move to alter a value, i.e. the handles on the

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-05-22 Thread Zelgadis
2012/5/22 Carlos Lopez Gonzalez : > I would like to invite to fill the chart I've made. All you have write > rights I think. > I won't start any code string substitution until the chart is filled and > agreed :-P > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ah8g_H3f7qpZdDR1N0piUThqZ0pySjh3eERzMjB

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-05-22 Thread Timothée Giet
2012/5/22 Carlos Lopez Gonzalez > I would like to invite to fill the chart I've made. All you have write > rights I think. > I won't start any code string substitution until the chart is filled and > agreed :-P > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ah8g_H3f7qpZdDR1N0piUThqZ0pySjh3eERzM

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-05-22 Thread Carlos Lopez Gonzalez
I would like to invite to fill the chart I've made. All you have write rights I think. I won't start any code string substitution until the chart is filled and agreed :-P https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ah8g_H3f7qpZdDR1N0piUThqZ0pySjh3eERzMjBDQVE Zelgadis wrote: ---

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-05-22 Thread Zelgadis
I like the "Library" suggestion! "File->Place" doesn't looks god for me. For "Bline" I still like the "Curve", but after all arguments the Spline is OK for me. Also I like Nikita's "Shape" alternative. In fact, the more I think about it, the more I like "Shape" - "Shape Tool" sounds good. But if ev

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-05-22 Thread Timothée Giet
Cool, more answers! :) I agree control point is a bit long, handle is better. Children Panel: Library is ok for me too. Import: I like it like it is. "Place" sounds strange, import is more meaningful to me. I agree with yu's suggestions regarding icons. You're right there's different icons invo

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-05-22 Thread Yu Chen
~ yu 2012/5/22 Carlos Lopez Gonzalez > Hi guys! > First sorry for miss the interesting conversation hold yesterday but I was > distracted working on Cairo implementation strategy ^__^ > > Instead quote to each answer let me do a summary of the redefinition > process, my preferences and thought

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-05-22 Thread Carlos Lopez Gonzalez
Hi guys! First sorry for miss the interesting conversation hold yesterday but I was distracted working on Cairo implementation strategy ^__^ Instead quote to each answer let me do a summary of the redefinition process, my preferences and thoughts. Duck: I am with Nikitakit here. Although "Contro

Re: [Synfig-devl] Hi Synfig devs

2012-05-21 Thread Nikita Kitaev
I like the suggestions here. From the current list, I agree with: Cpoint -> Color Stop Encapsulate -> Group Groups -> Sets "Control points" seems too long for such a common term: especially in phrases like "tangent control point". Shortening it to "controls" or just "points" may not work ("control

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