Re: [Tagging] Properties of swimming pools

2018-08-30 Thread Warin
On 30/08/18 22:17, Paul Allen wrote: On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 12:34 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: Temperature, I am afraid, is mine. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Temperature <https://wiki.openstr

Re: [Tagging] What is the height of this wall?

2018-08-30 Thread Warin
On 30/08/18 22:52, Paul Allen wrote: On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 1:32 PM, dktue > wrote: have a look at this wall from the waterside [1]: It's probably 3 meter high. On the otherhand, from the other side [2] it's only about 80cm high. What is the height I

Re: [Tagging] Properties of swimming pools

2018-08-30 Thread Warin
On 30/08/18 21:12, dktue wrote: Hello, I would like to tag information about the water-temperature and the depth of the separate pools in the outdoor-swimming pool [1]. Are there any suggested tag-names or should I just go with "depth" and "temperature"? Go with depth..

Re: [Tagging] horse mounting/dismounting steps

2018-08-28 Thread Warin
On 28/08/18 23:53, Philip Barnes wrote: On Tue, 2018-08-28 at 14:25 +0100, John Sturdy wrote: Or, like bus stops, perhaps they could come under "highway", as they're a starting / ending point for a journey which is typically along a highway (such as a bridleway). They are not beside

Re: [Tagging] horse mounting/dismounting steps

2018-08-28 Thread Warin
On 28/08/18 20:39, Philip Barnes wrote: On Tue, 2018-08-28 at 12:17 +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2018-08-28 12:04 GMT+02:00 Paul Allen >: My vote would be for amenity rather than man_made.  Amenities are something people (whether general public, or customers, or

Re: [Tagging] horse mounting/dismounting steps

2018-08-28 Thread Warin
On 28/08/18 23:25, John Sturdy wrote: Or, like bus stops, perhaps they could come under "highway", as they're a starting / ending point for a journey which is typically along a highway (such as a bridleway). A very good point. On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 12:54 PM Martin Koppenhoefer

[Tagging] horse mounting/dismounting steps

2018-08-27 Thread Warin
Hi, From a discussion on the GB list, these horse mounting/dismounting steps/blocks exist and people want to tag them. They certainly help get on and off a horse! http://85a.co.uk/images/little_hereford7_960x800.jpg http://85a.co.uk/images/little_hereford8_960x500.jpg How to tag them?

Re: [Tagging] Slow vehicle turnouts

2018-08-25 Thread Warin
On 25/08/18 10:17, Dave Swarthout wrote: I've been trying to decide tagging for slow-vehicle turnouts consisting of a lane added to the right side (in the U.S.) of the road so that slow moving vehicles can pull aside to allow following vehicles to pass. The best I can come up with is the tag

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Evacuation Routes

2018-08-24 Thread Warin
Err no. Think you 'll find  is a requirement for a minimum number of votes? On 24/08/18 23:42, Eric H. Christensen wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On August 9, 2018 11:57 AM, Eric H. Christensen wrote: I'm opening up my Evacuation

Re: [Tagging] nobrand

2018-08-23 Thread Warin
On 24/08/18 06:31, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 23. Aug 2018, at 18:25, Volker Schmidt wrote: In my part of Italy most, if not all have brand signs, but not "big" brands. Please be careful, when importing not to overwrite those "small" brand signs. How reliable are the

Re: [Tagging] nobrand

2018-08-23 Thread Warin
On 23/08/18 19:32, Cascafico Giovanni wrote: Hello, I'm going to upload 20k amenity=fuel in Italy; 5k of them are "Pompe Bianche", which means their don't belong to any brand. Which solution fits best? 1) brand=Pompe Bianche 2) brand=independent 3) brand:it=Pompe Bianche    

Re: [Tagging] What is a VTC car in OSM ?

2018-08-21 Thread Warin
One further tag that should be of use ? description=VTC only That should be helpful. On 22/08/18 09:05, Warin wrote: OK, so this is an access restriction - e.g. access=private private=VTC (or some other term that is applicable around the world, say private_hire_vehicle?) If pedestrians

Re: [Tagging] What is a VTC car in OSM ?

2018-08-21 Thread Warin
in these two terms. Thanks Salut i places d'aparcament yopaseopor On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 2:29 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 21/08/18 20:26, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 21. Aug 2018, at 10:55, J

Re: [Tagging] What is a VTC car in OSM ?

2018-08-21 Thread Warin
On 21/08/18 20:26, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 21. Aug 2018, at 10:55, José G Moya Y. > wrote: VTC is how rental cars with professional driver are called in Spain. I think the rest of the thread clarifies this: It is the Spanish name for

Re: [Tagging] What is a VTC car in OSM ?

2018-08-20 Thread Warin
I think Uber is available to the public. So they should be PSV (assuming they are Uber etc). There are bus parking spaces where bus driver takes a break. Possibly these too are for drivers to take a break? It does need discussion with those that put them there as to what they mean. One

Re: [Tagging] Highways going through military camp: access=private or access=military?

2018-08-18 Thread Warin
Private will get renders to notice it. May be tag access=private private=military ?? On 19/08/18 04:47, David Marchal wrote: Hello, there. All is in the title: when access to a road is restricted to military, as it is running through a base, should I tag it access=private or

Re: [Tagging] How to tag small canals?

2018-08-18 Thread Warin
On 19/08/18 04:01, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 17. Aug 2018, at 13:43, Christoph Hormann wrote: If you want to map the river width tag width=*, if you don't want to map the width then don't create classes based on width thresholds. river size is not about width alone,

Re: [Tagging] How to tag small canals?

2018-08-18 Thread Warin
On 18/08/18 18:44, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Saturday 18 August 2018, Peter Elderson wrote: Sure. But is there a standard method to indicate this uncertainty in OSM, which can be processed by data consumers? This is outside the scope of of OSM IMO and not practical for mappers to determine

Re: [Tagging] residents only after hours

2018-08-18 Thread Warin
On 18/08/18 17:19, SelfishSeahorse wrote: Hi On Friday, August 17, 2018, Jmapb > wrote: I've got a pedestrian way behind a large apartment building (leads to a back entrance) that's restricted to residents only after hours. Or more precisely, it's signed

Re: [Tagging] How to tag small canals?

2018-08-18 Thread Warin
. But is there a standard method to indicate this uncertainty in OSM, which can be processed by data consumers? Mvg Peter Elderson Op 18 aug. 2018 om 01:35 heeft Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> het volgende geschreven: What you are try

Re: [Tagging] How to tag small canals?

2018-08-17 Thread Warin
What you are trying to refer to is 'measurement uncertainty'. For a non professional rough guide; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measurement_uncertainty Naturally formed water way widths may have a great deal of variation along their widths .. and so the uncertainty will be very high unless

Re: [Tagging] areas of risk

2018-08-16 Thread Warin
On 17/08/18 08:25, seirra wrote: i did originally mean more for example if an area is known for a specific crime... listing it there? for example where a friend of mine lives they say if someone sees your phone it gets stolen? so safety:phone=no could be a good example? i can think of other

Re: [Tagging] areas of risk

2018-08-16 Thread Warin
There has never been agreement here on 'dangerous' areas. Even after people have lost there lives using GPS to go in to 'dangerous areas'. Some 'dangerous areas' require the  police to go heavily armed and in large numbers to ensure their own survival. Even the mapping of areas of land mines

Re: [Tagging] access:disabled... yes or designated?

2018-08-16 Thread Warin
On 17/08/18 07:46, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 16. Aug 2018, at 23:35, seirra wrote: should cases where yes was used be corrected to designated? or should it be considered a stylistic choice? generally, it doesn’t work very well, because you want to express who can

Re: [Tagging] healthcare : nurse <> nursing_home <> nursing

2018-08-15 Thread Warin
On 15/08/18 23:19, Philip Barnes wrote: Or maybe homecare? Please could you explain what function you would expect this nurse to provide. In remote locations there are nurses that provide a very large range of medical services. Consider that a doctor may take some hours to arrive by

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: Missing access value (access=license / authorization?)

2018-08-13 Thread Warin
On 14/08/18 02:09, Kevin Kenny wrote: On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 11:07 AM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: On 13. Aug 2018, at 14:35, Paul Allen wrote: All I was attempting here was to point out that access=no is different from access=private and can have valid uses. It's not crazy to have both.

Re: [Tagging] RFC - landcover clearing

2018-08-08 Thread Warin
in and you can see more detail of the 'clearings'. Le 09. 08. 18 à 00:27, Warin a écrit : There are some who would then say that a 'clearing' that is made by man should not be in the key 'natural' but in the key 'man_made'. A 'clearing' may not have ever had the surrounding vegetation

Re: [Tagging] RFC - landcover clearing

2018-08-08 Thread Warin
” as a landcover value that suits. Landcover is about what is there physically, “clearing” is about the absence of what was there before. Cheers, Martin sent from a phone On 6. Aug 2018, at 02:11, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi, I have

Re: [Tagging] Points instead of areas

2018-08-07 Thread Warin
On 08/08/18 12:52, Bill Ricker wrote: On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 6:41 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick mailto:graemefi...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 7 August 2018 at 21:56, Daniel Koć mailto:daniel@ko%C4%87.pl>> wrote: For example nobody would say that a city is a point I'm not

Re: [Tagging] undersea tourist route

2018-08-07 Thread Warin
On 08/08/18 09:01, marc marc wrote: Le 08. 08. 18 à 00:26, Warin a écrit : A scuba or snorkel route - some concrete drums with a chain between then and signs for people to follow. Like an under sea path. highway=path + location=underwater ? :) Humm highway=path layer=-1 surface=water

[Tagging] undersea tourist route

2018-08-07 Thread Warin
Hi, Here is one for puzzling over. A scuba or snorkel route - some concrete drums with a chain between then and signs for people to follow. Like an under sea path. http://watertourist.com/listing/gordons-bay-underwater-nature-trail/ How would you tag such a thing? Presently: Way: Gordons

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Evacuation Route

2018-08-07 Thread Warin
On 08/08/18 01:35, Eric H. Christensen wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 -‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On August 7, 2018 11:27 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: On 6. Aug 2018, at 06:30, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: And it might be better to place it directly

Re: [Tagging] place nodes for continents?

2018-08-07 Thread Warin
On 07/08/18 19:13, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: On Tuesday, August 7, 2018, Javier Sánchez Portero mailto:javiers...@gmail.com>> wrote: > The same applies to other place nodes like oceans, seas, natural bays, straits, etc. At the risk of forking this discussion to another topic, I'd like to

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Evacuation Route

2018-08-06 Thread Warin
On 06/08/18 16:10, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: One thing that concerns me a little bit with marking evacuation routes is what happens if the normal route is changed for "this" emergency? - you usually drive North to reach here, but this time, due to unusual circumstances, we need you to drive

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Evacuation Route

2018-08-06 Thread Warin
On 06/08/18 15:27, Eric H. Christensen wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On August 6, 2018 12:30 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: I'd think this should be a relation - not a way. At the moment the proposals says it is only

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Evacuation Route

2018-08-05 Thread Warin
I'd think this should be a relation - not a way. At the moment the proposals says it is only a way. And it might be better to place it directly in the emergency key? Say emergency=evacuation_route??? Humm emergency says it is not for relations. Arr well. Rendering... yes .. a rendering for

[Tagging] RFC - landcover clearing

2018-08-05 Thread Warin
Hi, I have been looking at the values used with the landuse key to try and stop land covers becoming regarded as a legitimate use of the key landuse. One strange value I came across was 'clearing'. No OSM wiki document. I resolved this to mean a change in land cover usually from trees to a

Re: [Tagging] Flood mark or high water mark

2018-08-05 Thread Warin
On 06/08/18 09:01, Dave Swarthout wrote: > I would think a good start would be changing the wiki to make it historic=flood_level, leaving any reference to high (or low) water to be a waterways thing ie the high tide mark. +1 Very sensible IMO. Yes. Complication .. a historic king tide

Re: [Tagging] landuse=clearing

2018-08-04 Thread Warin
On 04/08/18 22:21, Paul Allen wrote: On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 8:09 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: Presently landcover=clearing is fourth on the list of how to map, with discouraging words attached. That list doesn't read th

Re: [Tagging] building:flats

2018-08-04 Thread Warin
On 05/08/18 08:59, marc marc wrote: Le 05. 08. 18 à 00:47, Andrew Harvey a écrit : What's the process to change the Status from "In use" to "Approved"? write a propal, request for comment, call for voting https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_process it would be interesting to see how

Re: [Tagging] landuse=clearing

2018-08-04 Thread Warin
On 04/08/18 16:28, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 4. Aug 2018, at 01:43, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: As this is not a 'landuse' but a landcover I think moving it to landcover=clearing would be a good first step. -1, “clearing” is neither a landuse nor a lan

Re: [Tagging] landuse=clearing

2018-08-03 Thread Warin
I have made a rough draft on the OSM wiki https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Landcover%3Dclearing#Proposal Later. On 04/08/18 09:43, Warin wrote: On 29/07/18 20:56, Andy Townsend wrote: What I've tended to do with clearings is: o natural=wood for "here be trees", with leaf_type

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - man_made - footwear_decontamination

2018-08-03 Thread Warin
Hi, The proposed feature "footwear decontamination stations" is open for voting: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/man_made%3Dfootwear_decontamination#Voting A tag to indicate the presence of a footwear decontamination station for hikers.

Re: [Tagging] landuse=clearing

2018-08-03 Thread Warin
On 29/07/18 20:56, Andy Townsend wrote: What I've tended to do with clearings is: o natural=wood for "here be trees", with leaf_type added. o If there's a large "landuse=forest" area already and that encompasses wood, clearings, ponds etc. (and there often is), leave that as "landuse=forest"

Re: [Tagging] Golf tag combinations

2018-08-02 Thread Warin
On 02/08/18 23:00, Paul Allen wrote: On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 1:48 PM, althio > wrote: For the Old Course at Saint Andrews (ancient and well-known golf course), holes do have names. See the Wikipedia page or the website.

Re: [Tagging] Golf tag combinations

2018-08-02 Thread Warin
Sorry.. don't know what an 'allotment plot' is? I don't see that mentioned in the OSMwikis for golf. I follow the rest of the 'ref' argument. Will have to look at it. On 02/08/18 22:09, Paul Allen wrote: On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 11:05 AM, Chris Hill > wrote: I

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - man_made=footwear_decontamination

2018-08-01 Thread Warin
then I'll move to voting. Things like door mats, sticky mats ... well they are for footwear sole cleaning. Should there be a separate tag for these things? man_made=footwear_sole_cleaning? On 17/07/18 12:43, Warin wrote: Hi, Following discussions here and on the Australian list .. here

Re: [Tagging] Let's get (quite) rid of units and their multiples in OSM values

2018-07-30 Thread Warin
On 31/07/18 02:33, Kevin Kenny wrote: On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 11:39 AM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I did not check any numbers, but I would also expect a lot of data not following this definition. [of the ele=* tag meaining EGM96] Uhm, yeah. I've been using NAVD88 as orthometric datum. I

Re: [Tagging] landuse=clearing

2018-07-30 Thread Warin
On 30/07/18 18:21, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 29. Lipiec 2018 12:37 od pla16...@gmail.com : It's a matter of minutes to add a relation to the wood, transfer the tags from the wood to relation, then add one of the clearings to the relation and see what

Re: [Tagging] landuse=clearing

2018-07-29 Thread Warin
On 29/07/18 20:37, Paul Allen wrote: On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 12:57 AM, Graeme Fitzpatrick mailto:graemefi...@gmail.com>> wrote: The problem with that of course, as Warin mentioned, is what would it hypothetically render as - grass / sand / rock / scrub etc etc? If you simply

Re: [Tagging] landuse=clearing

2018-07-27 Thread Warin
On 28/07/18 14:13, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On 28 July 2018 at 12:31, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: I think the basic tag is trying to show that the surrounding area (usually trees) stops around this area. So why not t

[Tagging] landuse=clearing

2018-07-27 Thread Warin
Hi, Presently trying to reduce the number of these .. some 1,300 in the data base. In Cosata Rica around Parque Nacional Corcovada there are a vast number of these. They have varying land covers, some of them mixed covers. I think the basic tag is trying to show that the surrounding area

Re: [Tagging] Missing access value (access=license / authorization?)

2018-07-27 Thread Warin
On 28/07/18 07:47, Kevin Kenny wrote: On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 11:54 AM marc marc wrote: a good idea would be to explain with a (as easy as possible) example why access=customers or private does not fit for your need. If it was what you did in your previous email, sorry but I didn't understand

Re: [Tagging] Let's get (quite) rid of units and their multiples in OSM values

2018-07-27 Thread Warin
On 27/07/18 21:11, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 26. Jul 2018, at 21:26, François Lacombe wrote: I don't want to break things but only improve them, all the best one issue with using only one unit for a tag is that they can’t always be transformed without rounding. E.g.

Re: [Tagging] RFC: property for the presence of pitch markings

2018-07-27 Thread Warin
On 27/07/18 20:28, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I agree with both of you that lines: seems a better way to deal with the specifics. I wasn’t aware there is already something in use. Don't know if it has much use. I used as a template the basketball page to create the netball page, so I have

Re: [Tagging] building = house vs detached.

2018-07-27 Thread Warin
On 27/07/18 20:44, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 27. Jul 2018, at 12:06, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: Looks like common entrances to me? Another alternative is residences? the first ones I posted some days ago had individual entrances, these are from an In

Re: [Tagging] building = house vs detached.

2018-07-27 Thread Warin
On 27/07/18 19:36, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 27. Jul 2018, at 10:18, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: If it is intended for more than one family (and the independent entrances give that feeling) then I'd no

Re: [Tagging] building = house vs detached.

2018-07-27 Thread Warin
On 27/07/18 18:11, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 26. Jul 2018, at 22:48, Mike H <1jg...@gmail.com> wrote: maybe even adding to them as the pages are still pretty sparse on detail. we have to be careful when making the definitions more specific (adding detail will result

Re: [Tagging] building = house vs detached.

2018-07-27 Thread Warin
On 27/07/18 18:06, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 26. Jul 2018, at 22:48, Mike H <1jg...@gmail.com > wrote: I went and updated the wiki a little bit. I added details to the building=house  

Re: [Tagging] building = house vs detached.

2018-07-27 Thread Warin
On 27/07/18 17:54, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 26. Jul 2018, at 19:47, Sebastian wrote: In Australia houses that share one or more walls with the next house (can be one or both sides) are called town houses town houses are a more recent variation of terraced houses.

Re: [Tagging] Missing access value (access=license / authorization?)

2018-07-26 Thread Warin
, 2018, at 6:15 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: Just use the tag. 245 in the data base now. As for fees they can be tagged with fee= tag As for the permit conditions .. well you could just tag permit=* I'd just do it. Overpass turbo shows a wide distribution around the world. It make

Re: [Tagging] Missing access value (access=license / authorization?)

2018-07-26 Thread Warin
On 27/07/18 10:45, Kevin Kenny wrote: On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 3:40 PM marc marc wrote: Le 26. 07. 18 à 19:39, Szem a écrit : did you read the previous (a few month ago) thread about this kind of issue ? imho *=licence is included in the current meaning of *=customers The only outcome of that

Re: [Tagging] RFC: property for the presence of pitch markings

2018-07-26 Thread Warin
On 26/07/18 23:49, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Please comment on this proposal for a property to denote the presence of pitch markings / field markings. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/pitch_markings I would particularly be interested to learn from you, if there should

Re: [Tagging] Mirror setting marks

2018-07-26 Thread Warin
It would be part of a highway - so can be a sub tag as Tom suggests. I don't know about the name .. there must be a better term. I'll try to think of one. On 27/07/18 07:04, Tom Pfeifer wrote: In order to shorten the tag, avoid the crowded amenity space, and be more descriptive what vehicles

Re: [Tagging] Flood mark or high water mark

2018-07-26 Thread Warin
On 26/07/18 20:29, Andrew Davidson wrote: On 25/07/18 22:05, Robert Szczepanek wrote: Question 1: a/ flood_mark b/ high_water_mark c/ highwater_mark A. High water mark is the level that the water got to, so if you marked that it would be a high water mark marker Question 2: Which

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - ephemeral -STOPPED

2018-07-24 Thread Warin
, François Lacombe wrote: Hi 2018-07-19 2:17 GMT+02:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>>: That does not allow for a combination .. e.g. seasonal presence in winter intermittent presence in spring;summer The present practice of adding the tag

Re: [Tagging] landuse=sand

2018-07-24 Thread Warin
Done. There will probably be more in the future. As long as the numbers can be kept down then it will not get like landuse=grass. On 20/07/18 06:13, Tobias Knerr wrote: On 18.07.2018 07:43, Warin wrote: I have already changed a few. Are there any comments on changing landuse=sand, before

[Tagging] landuse=scrub

2018-07-24 Thread Warin
Hi, The next landuse = landcover tag that I have come across is landuse=scrub .. some 1,600 use of it according to taginfo. The obvious thing to do is change them to natural=scrub. I have not 'looked' at them (selected one and checked OSM rendering, and some imagery to 'see' what is

Re: [Tagging] Documentation issues of PT tagging schemes

2018-07-24 Thread Warin
Hi, As part of the proposal .. I think  a document on how to map PTv3 in the simplest most basic way needs to be done. This would not be the bells and whistles method, but the bread and water method. The basics that would have the routing working and the map displaying things. It needs to

Re: [Tagging] Use of namespace as a Lifecycle

2018-07-24 Thread Warin
On 25/07/18 02:00, yo paseopor wrote: Thank you for guide me to a project that...doesn't work at some times. You know now why my option is the one I have made. In addition to that. As the future does not exist these items with proposed also does not exist, doesn't? So these (~20.000) items:

Re: [Tagging] building = house vs detached.

2018-07-22 Thread Warin
On 23/07/18 07:22, Andrew Hain wrote: I will admit to having stuck to building=house in Britain and letting the geometry of the way identify the configuration. +1 For a row of houses .. ie terrace houses there is https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:building%3Dterrace I disagree with the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - ephemeral -STOPPED

2018-07-21 Thread Warin
On 20/07/18 05:45, François Lacombe wrote: Hi 2018-07-19 2:17 GMT+02:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>>: That does not allow for a combination .. e.g. seasonal presence in winter intermittent presence in spring;summer The pres

[Tagging] Golf tag combinations

2018-07-21 Thread Warin
Yet more golf... sigh. Many of the golf tags (golf=green, tee, fairway) are combined with landuse=grass. And other golf tags (water_hazard as an example) use the key natural. To may way of thinking these should use the surface tag e.g. surface=grass, that clearly shows that the surface is

Re: [Tagging] Lake or Pond

2018-07-20 Thread Warin
On 21/07/18 09:23, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On 21 July 2018 at 04:59, Michael Patrick>wrote: * Does light reach the bottom of the deepest point of the water body? * Does the water body only get small waves (i.e., smaller than 1ft/30cm in

Re: [Tagging] Lake or Pond

2018-07-20 Thread Warin
lated tools" mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>> Cc: Bcc: Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 11:49:46 +0200 Subject: Re: [Tagging] Lake or Pond ... or a reservoir, as Warin points out. On 20 July 2018 at 11:46, Volker Schmidt <mailto:vosc...@gmail.com>> wrote: The description in

Re: [Tagging] Lake or Pond

2018-07-20 Thread Warin
On 20/07/18 19:23, Sebastian wrote: Hello List, in the UAE/Emirates Hills area, particular around 'The Springs' there are a number or lakes. All lakes are artificial. Image example here: https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/bjCPLyUtXUhDAvOPqQWeUw Reading through Key:water in the OpenStreetMap

Re: [Tagging] building=clubhouse

2018-07-20 Thread Warin
, 2018 at 7:21 AM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: On 19/07/18 18:20, Tobias Knerr wrote: On 19.07.2018 05:15, Warin wrote: Would it not be best to combine all theses into building=clubhouse? I'm not opposed to the general idea of having a sport-independent tag for clubhouses, if we can

Re: [Tagging] building=clubhouse

2018-07-19 Thread Warin
On 19/07/18 18:20, Tobias Knerr wrote: On 19.07.2018 05:15, Warin wrote: Would it not be best to combine all theses into building=clubhouse? I'm not opposed to the general idea of having a sport-independent tag for clubhouses, if we can agree on a suitable tag. However, please remember

Re: [Tagging] Route maintenance tagging

2018-07-19 Thread Warin
There is a national route near me.. it is some 5,000 km long. Not many walk/ride the entire length. It is not complete in OSM, nor upto date. But there is a route .. broken in places ... I think of it as a guide rather than truth. The survey:date would have to be added to each way of the

Re: [Tagging] waterway=fish_pass consistency

2018-07-19 Thread Warin
The 'fish passes' I am familiar with are all man made, they provide fish a way around weirs, dams and locks. They certainly are not intended for human transportation and should not provide a lot of water flow. They are different from spillways, canals and other man made waterways, they are not

Re: [Tagging] landuse=basin

2018-07-19 Thread Warin
On 19/07/18 16:53, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 18. Lipiec 2018 16:02 od e...@eric-poehlsen.de : The present OSM meaning of landuse=basin is "An area of land artificially graded to hold water." https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dbasin

Re: [Tagging] building=clubhouse

2018-07-18 Thread Warin
AM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 19/07/18 13:52, Marc Gemis wrote: for the complete "base" of the club, the club page [1] recommends "The base of the club can be tagged amenity=community_centre with the type

Re: [Tagging] building=clubhouse

2018-07-18 Thread Warin
wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:club The subject is building = clubhouse ... ? [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:club On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 5:16 AM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: Hi, With the golfing thing that I have on another thread there is the tagging of golf=clubhouse sugg

[Tagging] building=clubhouse

2018-07-18 Thread Warin
Hi, With the golfing thing that I have on another thread there is the tagging of golf=clubhouse suggested on a building=yes. That is specific to golf, what about other clubhouses? Taginfo has uses of 557 building=clubhouse 479 golf=clubhouse 121 tennis:clubhouse=* 98 amenity=clubhouse

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - ephemeral -STOPPED

2018-07-18 Thread Warin
On 19/07/18 10:17, Warin wrote: On 19/07/18 02:04, François Lacombe wrote: 2018-07-18 12:30 GMT+02:00 Andrew Davidson <mailto:thesw...@gmail.com>>: On 18/07/18 18:42, François Lacombe wrote: What about flow=permanent(default), intermittent, ephemeral ? Flow is n

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - ephemeral -STOPPED

2018-07-18 Thread Warin
On 19/07/18 02:04, François Lacombe wrote: 2018-07-18 12:30 GMT+02:00 Andrew Davidson >: On 18/07/18 18:42, François Lacombe wrote: What about flow=permanent(default), intermittent, ephemeral ? Flow is not a good choice for a key as you can tag

Re: [Tagging] landuse=basin

2018-07-18 Thread Warin
On 18/07/18 18:02, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Wednesday 18 July 2018, Warin wrote: Hi, The presentOSM meaning of landuse=basin is "An area of land artificially graded to hold water." https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dbasin This does not distinguishit from water=res

Re: [Tagging] landuse=basin

2018-07-18 Thread Warin
On 18/07/18 18:02, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Wednesday 18 July 2018, Warin wrote: Hi, The presentOSM meaning of landuse=basin is "An area of land artificially graded to hold water." https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dbasin This does not distinguishit from water=res

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - ephemeral -STOPPED

2018-07-18 Thread Warin
then there would be at least 2 more keys - for a river and a lake .. It follows the syntax of the keys seasonal and intermittent that can be applied to any water body .. Sorry ... All the best François 2018-07-18 9:50 GMT+02:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gma

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - ephemeral -STOPPED

2018-07-18 Thread Warin
On 18/07/18 17:44, Andrew Davidson wrote: On 18/07/18 13:02, Warin wrote: Will restart after correction. I've just had another look at the text of the third vote: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/ephemeral=1628343

[Tagging] landuse=basin

2018-07-18 Thread Warin
Hi, The presentOSM meaning of landuse=basin is "An area of land artificially graded to hold water." https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dbasin This does not distinguishit from water=reservoir OSM defined as "A reservoir

Re: [Tagging] US Forest Service (USDA) and logging

2018-07-18 Thread Warin
On 18/07/18 10:25, Michael Patrick wrote: > Apparently areas used for logging-related purposes are not to be mapped in > OSM .. there are no tags available for this land use. > We simply cannot map them. > Well, this complicates things for the US, most national forests

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - ephemeral -STOPPED

2018-07-18 Thread Warin
On 18/07/18 16:27, Andrew Davidson wrote: On 18/07/18 13:02, Warin wrote: Voting stopped due to removal of section. That was my bad. I'd been confused when I found three voting sections on the page. From your email I had been expecting to vote twice, but when I found three sections

[Tagging] landuse=sand

2018-07-17 Thread Warin
There are some 500 landuse=sand in the data base. This is not good. Some of these are tagged together with golf=bunker and leisure=playground .. those should be tagged with surface=sand. Some are the only tag on the way and should be re-tagged natural=sand. I have already changed a few.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - ephemeral -STOPPED

2018-07-17 Thread Warin
Voting stopped due to removal of section. Will restart after correction. Old votes will go to the discussion page. On 17/07/18 08:32, Warin wrote: Hi, The proposal for the property key ephemeralis open for voting. Link to the page - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - man_made=footwear_decontamination

2018-07-16 Thread Warin
Hi, Following discussions here and on the Australian list .. here is the proposal for man_made=footwear_decontamination. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/man_made%3Dfootwear_decontamination I would be pleased with more examples. Note the discussionpage has some

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - highway strip

2018-07-16 Thread Warin
On 17/07/18 07:55, Warin wrote: On 16/07/18 22:00, Jyri-Petteri Paloposki wrote: Hi, starting voting on the previously proposed aeroway=highway_strip tag. The proposal can be found in <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/highway_strip>. Best regards, Started a new s

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - highway strip

2018-07-16 Thread Warin
 Feature Proposal - Voting - highway strip On 16/07/18 22:00, Jyri-Petteri Paloposki wrote: Hi, starting voting on the previously proposed aeroway=highway_strip tag. The proposal can be found in . Best regards, 2nd try to

Re: [Tagging] Golf wiki page

2018-07-16 Thread Warin
On 17/07/18 08:36, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On 17 July 2018 at 06:31, Alan Grant > wrote: But why do these discussions/controversies/ambiguities matter for golf courses? Are we talking about how to tag areas of tree cover that may exist between the

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - ephemeral

2018-07-16 Thread Warin
Hi, The proposal for the property key ephemeralis open for voting. Link to the page - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/ephemeral If you vote for the key, then please also vote on the key intermittent either being a default or a manual entry. For some past discussion

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