You are mixing so many different topics and misconceptions that I think
you basically don't know what you're talking about.
Perhaps you should read up on what is Java first...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_(programming_language)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Java_implementations
I used a similar approach (osm2pgsql and connecting that as data source
in GeoServer) in the past, also IIRC I used mapnik2geotools script to
convert one of the Mapnik OSM styles to SLD, worked out quite well.
Paweł
On Thu, Sep 29, 2016, at 17:51, Jeff McKenna wrote:
> On 2016-09-29 9:19 AM,
no
place in OSM and order its deletion.
What was that famous line in Animal Farm again?
--colin
On 2015-08-20 10:53, Paweł Paprota wrote:
I'm taking bets on whether this thread will have more replies than the
abandoned railroads (100+ and still going strong!) and win the prize
I'm taking bets on whether this thread will have more replies than the
abandoned railroads (100+ and still going strong!) and win the prize
for the Biggest Waste of Time in OSM for 2015.
YES WE CAN('T)
Paweł
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015, at 03:16, Jóhannes Birgir Jensson wrote:
For those that did not
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015, at 09:31, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 1:22 AM, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote:
I don't know if OWL can do it because it is offline.
Is OWL gone forever? My recollection is I was living in Salem and just
joined the project more recently than
And i think there are a lot of other areas in OSM that represent at least as
efficient (and therefore damaging) means of cultural imperialism as remote
mapping.
Acting as devil's advocate, I have a quick question - are you 100% sure
that you are not overthinking stuff? I see discussion after
Could you please move this discussion to the tagging list?
On Thu, Jun 4, 2015, at 16:57, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
Am 04.06.2015 um 01:48 schrieb pmailkeey . pmailk...@googlemail.com:
A value of residential here seems to need a key to identify whether it
relates to a
But what exactly is the problem that you're trying to solve with this
idea? Database size? There are much bigger contributing factors to
database size than this, like rampant data redundancy everywhere,
botched mechanical edits etc. Complexity of the UI of editors? I'm sure
they can manage to
Great work!
Picked up by Slashdot BTW:
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/15/02/17/1351206/openstreetmaporg-gets-routing
:-)
Paweł
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015, at 15:22, Steve Coast wrote:
+1 this is awesome
Steve
On Feb 16, 2015, at 12:10 PM, Michael Kugelmann michaelk_...@gmx.de wrote:
Am
Not to be a wise ass but it looks recently like OSM is setting out to
solve every single problem starting from gender inequality, good
practices for bookkeeping, methods for democratic voting and now
alcoholic beverages and noise levels at OSM related events...
At the same time Ilya Zverev's
OSM is not a melting pot for the world's open data and while there is a
place for imports, every import will have to be carefully thought about
and evaluated. Streamlining that process is not necessarily in the best
interest of OpenStreetMap.
What do you mean? Clearly it *is* in the
Good stuff, keep it coming!
On Wed, Oct 8, 2014, at 00:27, Manfred A. Reiter wrote:
Hi,
the weekly Nr. 219 with all important news from the OpenStreetMap
ecosystem
is published.
http://www.weeklyosm.eu/
Have a lot of fun.
--
## Manfred
I developed a tool some time ago to analyze many aspects of the road
network. See the output here:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSMonitor/Poland_Major_Roads
Unfortunately I don't have time to work on it anymore so it was launched
only for Poland, Serbia and Czech Republic. It would be
Read this and substitute OSM for Wikipedia:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/01/13/google_stabs_wikipedia_in_the_front/
quote
The moral is: if you're a contributor to an open web resource, then
beware: the hippy ethos simply marks you out as a mug. Unless you
protect and license your work, you
+1 to the update. Also it would be nice to have up-to-date extracts (by
continent and country).
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013, at 17:02, Peter Körner wrote:
Hi
it wood be pretty cool to have an known updatecycle for full history
planets. It does not need to be often but it would help to know how long
Thanks for the summary. BTW, what happened to the week in OSM
newsletter which seems to serve similar purpose? Haven't seen one of
them in a while.
Paweł
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013, at 7:48, Paul Norman wrote:
I'm trying something different in the hopes of getting more awareness
about
potential
Pretty cool. Looks like people are mostly contributing to neighboring
countries and also to popular holiday destinations :-)
I can confirm this as I live on Polish/Czech border and often map in
Czech Republic.
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013, at 11:47, Frédéric Bonifas wrote:
Hi,
For a long time I have
The important part is to understand that the current lack of end-user
services is not because of lack of knowledge, technology or any thing
similar, but by design.
Umm, no, not really. It most certainly *is* because of the lack of
knowledge, technology, time, people and many other resources.
http://owl.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013, at 14:17, David Richfield wrote:
Hi,
I want to see changesets that affect an area, and all I'm seeing when
I click on history are changesets that affect map elements that are
scattered across a huge area, but don't affect anything
Just a polite reminder that the tagg...@openstreetmap.org list is the
proper place for such discussions...
On Fri, May 31, 2013, at 1:42, Paul Johnson wrote:
Not a cafe, then, that'd be more of a restaurant.
On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:21 PM, John F. Eldredge
j...@jfeldredge.comwrote:
I
Things like these and in general Google/Apple/insert your favorite
corporation here-mania really only show how upside down the world is
nowadays.
Does OSM really want press like that? I'm not sure... true, it would
get the word out about OSM but is that the proper way to publicize?
I think people
On 05/25/2013 12:15 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
Of course with Wikipedia it was somehow easier because all of their
work gets indexed by search engines
Also osm is indexed by search engines
Sure but have you ever seen a link to OSM object (way/relation/node) in
the internet?
When
On 02/03/2013 10:51 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
I don't know exactly what git log you mean. OSM is a whole universe
of software; a part of that is visible on
https://github.com/openstreetmap/. The bit that is on
https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website is but a tiny
fragment of it.
On 02/02/2013 11:30 PM, Chris Hill wrote:
Actually, I question just how valuable the work is of someone who uses
it to threaten the community with withdrawing it if he is a bit upset. I
prefer to see the work given freely without strings attached - that's
what I see as what Open means. YMMV.
On 02/02/2013 11:49 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
you are too impatient, at least too impatient for the occasionally
glacial pace at which things move in OSM(F).
You have been with OSM for about 6 months now if I'm not mistaken,
and most of your recent messages (at least most of the messages that
On 02/03/2013 07:35 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Hi,
On 03.02.2013 12:36, Paweł Paprota wrote:
What I want right now is some sign that OSM is not fading away as a
project.
Shouldn't this be the other way round - shouldn't somebody who
claims that OSM was about to fade away have proof
On 02/01/2013 04:22 PM, Simon Poole wrote:
Please address any questions on the matter to me by e-mail and not to
the list.
Why?
Paweł
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On 02/01/2013 08:54 PM, andrzej zaborowski wrote:
I agree with what you're saying although I can't help thinking that
if the OSMF can't take the risk of having some things in the wiki,
the solution, for everyone's benefit, is to move the wiki to a server
that's not paid for by the OSMF. I'm
On 02/02/2013 02:38 PM, Ed Loach wrote:
As far as I can see, OSMF Ltd is very like KDE ev; compare
http://blog.osmfoundation.org/about/ and
http://ev.kde.org/whatiskdeev.php
Legal status is the least of what I meant. Compare what OSMF does with
this quarterly report from the KDE foundation:
On 02/02/2013 07:41 PM, Jeff Meyer wrote:
There's a group working in parallel to put together a strategic plan,
in the absence of one, but doing this without leadership and support
from the top can be problematic.
Couple of people have mentioned the Strategic Working Group[1] to me in
the last
On 02/02/2013 10:23 PM, Chris Hill wrote:
Threats to leave the project remind me of the bullshit thrown around
during licence-change when hardly anyone actually had the balls to
follow through. If people are so unhappy then go, but do so quickly
and quietly and leave the people really
On 01/23/2013 09:35 AM, Tom Hughes wrote:
I suspect that looking for things of type X is more of an end user
goal though, which isn't the target audience for the OSM web site.
...or is it? :-)
The question we should be asking is what sort of approach helps
mappers and for that I suspect
On 01/22/2013 09:35 AM, Ilya Zverev wrote:
Right now, in Roland's version, it isn't even clear that one should
click on the map to get information.
In one of the EWG meetings POI display was split into two separate tasks:
On 01/23/2013 12:31 PM, Tom Hughes wrote:
Well that one seems wrong to me as it is approaching the issue from one
of achieving feature parity with Google Maps, but as I have always
understood it that has never been our goal.
It also provides better user experience. Sure we can say that the
On 01/21/2013 03:17 PM, Peter Wendorff wrote:
A perfect solution here might be to extend Mapnik to report as
additional meta data to a tile the objects rendered (and/or skipped)
Mapnik has a grid renderer that does exactly what you described:
Isn't the purpose of OSM and Contributors to credit or attribute
the
source of the map tile data?
Maybe, maybe not. More importantly - the fact that there's a discussion
what this mark tries to communicate means that it fails to do it
properly in the first place.
At first glance I thought
On 01/13/2013 04:20 PM, MonkZ wrote:
Maybe colorcoded here was an edit in log(x) minutes (tilewise png
transparency or css opiacity) or colorcoded amount of edits within
this week (tilewise png transparency or css opiacity)
I tried that in some UI experiments a few weeks ago and it looked
is running very low on two 500GB SSDs on the server
and I would rather remove useless tiles than resort to moving data to
the spinning drive :-)
Paweł
On 01/04/2013 12:01 AM, Paweł Paprota wrote:
http://owl.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/
Couple of things:
* Zoom levels = 14 should be usable
On 01/11/2013 03:26 PM, Alex Barth wrote:
http://yhahn.github.com/byosm/ (just a demo domain, this should live
ideally on `openstreetmap.org/contributors`)
Looks good as far as I understand the proposal...
One thing came to me at a quick glance - the new /contributors page does
not have any
On 01/09/2013 03:05 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
My idea of dealing with this complex situation is to:
This all sounds nice but has it been done on a scale that OSM needs it
to work? Are there large projects that have this kind of organization
that you describe?
There are dozens of large open
On 01/09/2013 11:17 AM, Peter Wendorff wrote:
OpenOffice, now part of Apache, is well known, sure - but I think,
still more people know Microsoft Office than OpenOffice.
I don't think ASF would be happy with you reducing them to OpenOffice
:-) They have over a hundred of well-known projects
On 01/09/2013 12:20 PM, Peter Wendorff wrote:
Communication professionals IMHO most often sound like marketing.
I did not mean communication professionals but giving more resources to
the OSMF's Communication Working Group or similar initiatives. Posting a
tweet or a blog post now and then
On 01/09/2013 01:37 AM, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote:
I may be a grumpy old dinosaur but I don't see how diluting the
Openstreetmap brand into the bland broth of proprietary centralized
social services that plague the Internet nowadays will bring any
value...
Simple question then: you go to osm.org
Frederik,
Hundreds of man-years of developer time... and still a person with
average computer literacy cannot add a table to an article!
Maybe ease-of-use is not a priority for them? I could imagine a lot of
arguments against having a full WYSIWYG editor in Wikipedia.
Regardless, their
Hi Frederik,
I basically agree with everything that Jeff wrote in reply to your
e-mail so I won't reiterate the same points.
One thing to note - look at the numbers: between 2010 and today, the
number of users doubled and in the same period the number of active
contributors did not change
On 01/07/2013 11:32 PM, Johan C wrote:
The Wikimedia Foundation launched a strategic planning process in
2009: http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page which, in 2010,
resulted in a collaborative vision for the movement till 2015.
Thanks for this link, I have not seen this before... it's
Hi Roland,
Mapnik and all the other tools you mentioned have all been developed
without a strategic vision and without formal permission from
whomever
Because they are single-purpose libraries that don't really need any
strategic vision other than do we use XML/CSS/C/C++ for this decisions.
It has been said that many people sign up to OSM because they believe
they'll have advanced user features (more maps? your own map style?
whatever). Without any research into this, you cannot conclude that
those who sign up would have been mappers if only our web interface
was more like
On 01/08/2013 01:16 PM, Roland Olbricht wrote:
Please tell people the truth, you actively contribute to impede the
Top Ten Tasks. Let's take a look at
If you think that this solution (Overpass popup) would be suitable for
the main website, why don't you just develop it and propose the merge
(...)
What you describe sounds good in theory (ecosystem) but in practice it
does not work that way. You can't just pick and choose some cool
projects and integrate them into the main site. Software (in particular,
open source software) is not a puzzle that can be easily thrown together
and
Hi Richard,
I just came back from a few hours of skiing, full of enthusiasm to
continue my work on OWL and interested how the discussion in this thread
evolved and what do I see? Accusations of sabotage thrown at me...
So basically - I think I start to understand what you said.
Paweł
Hi Jeff,
On 01/08/2013 07:48 PM, Jeff Meyer wrote:
Paweł -
Please do not be discouraged by the voice of one person delivering
an ad-hominem attack.
There are plenty of people - including myself - who are excited by
your sabotage of OSM efforts through OWL. Where can I send the
dynamite?
I
OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch
A bit off-topic but this sentence from Clifford's footer really stuck
with me.
Maps with a human touch - I like that, perhaps it could be more widely
used as a OSM slogan :-)
Paweł
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Now take this Linux methaphor and apply it to OSM and its main
website. In my time that I spent following Rails Port and in
general main website development (about 6 months) I have seen 2
maybe 3 people writing major pieces of code for Rails Port, some of
those pieces have been rejected from
On 01/08/2013 08:32 PM, Clifford Snow wrote:
I will develop a survey with the help of anyone that wishes to
contribute.
That's a potentially good initiative but I would be careful so that it
does not degenerate into another kind of todo or wishlist, like this:
Hello Clifford,
Very interesting e-mail. It seems that as the project grows, there is
more and more people feeling like there should be some kind of next
level that OSM as a project and community should reach. I agree with that.
It seems to me that OSM needs a full time staff that can work
Hi Julien,
Could it be possible to integrate the user classification visible
here ( http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/oooc) by example by adding the
same coloured man icon on the right of OSM User link. IMHO it could
be very usefull to know if an edit has been done by a new user of a
senior user
Hi Dave,
Thanks for your feedback - it is exactly what I was hoping for.
Things I've noticed: RSS gives this error: We're sorry, but something
went wrong.
Thanks, I'll fix that.
Scroll bar Gets 'stuck' as I move it down some of the lettering
doesn't scroll (Firefox 17.01, Shockwave
Hi Toby,
On 01/04/2013 12:41 AM, Toby Murray wrote:
Holy smokes this is great. What is the status of the data backing it?
I see one changeset a coworker just made to our office building (new
user today!) but a changeset I made to to highway west of town on
December 31st doesn't seem to be
On 01/04/2013 10:18 AM, Tom Hughes wrote:
Correct - although the data shown in the history panel is from the live
database (via the replication feed) the actual database backing that
rails instance is separate so none of the changesets shown will exist.
Exactly. Same goes for nodes, ways and
On 01/04/2013 09:50 AM, Christian Quest wrote:
Very nice improvement. Bravo !
Where should we report bugs/ideas ?
The code is here:
https://github.com/ppawel/openstreetmap-website/tree/owl-history-tab
So the issues should probably go here for now:
On 01/04/2013 10:13 AM, Alex Barth wrote:
Pawel -
This is great.
What would it take to make this blazing fast?
There is still a lot challenges ahead with performance such as:
* On high zoom levels OWL API response time is acceptable most of the
time but I only tested it with 1.5M
Hi Pierre,
On 01/04/2013 01:52 AM, Pierre Béland wrote:
http://owl.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-1.70737lon=29.02081zoom=15layers=M
This is indeed a great example. I put the symbols in the sidebar one day
just because it was easy to do (CSS classes and images were already
there) and I
Hi Johan,
On 01/03/2013 10:53 PM, Johan C wrote:
I´m quite surprised that so few OSM´ers are interested in discussing
the approach to gain market share for OSM. After my first posting mid
December now Waze is in the news, with up to 30 million users:
Hi all,
For some time now I've been working on the OpenStreetMap Watch List
project[1] and on integrating OWL into the main OSM website.
At this point I've got something slowly approaching beta status and I
would appreciate early feedback from the community.
You can see it in action here:
Hi,
This has been discussed on the dev list several times already, see for
example:
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/dev/2012-October/025746.html
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/dev/2012-October/025970.html
Also see their blog:
http://mapbox.com/osmdev/
Paweł
Hi,
There is a demo instance of the Activity Streams functionality:
http://suncobalt.dyndns.org:8081/
Zoom in to the area that you want and click Activity tab. There is a
link for RSS.
Right now I'm working on a more general solution to storing change
information because that's the main
Polish page also has been reverted (yesterday):
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Pl:Relation:restrictionaction=history
Paweł
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012, at 12:00, Cobra wrote:
Hi all,
those of you reading tagging@ might have noticed a similar thread two
weeks ago:
On 10/16/2012 03:44 PM, Alex Barth wrote:
Very interesting.
Activities seems to be going for replacing the history tab - am I seeing this
right? I was expecting activity streams an expansion of the 'your friends' feed
on my user profile. I. e. while on the history tab I get a complete
/wiki/Top_Ten_Tasks/Progress/Support_for_multiple_languages_on_help.osm.org#Update_.28October_2012.29
Paweł
On Sat, Oct 13, 2012, at 12:41, Paweł Paprota wrote:
Hi all,
During the EWG meeting last week I volunteered to research migration
feasibility for the help.osm.org platform migration due
Hi all,
I've been working and working on this stuff or a few weeks now, I guess
now is as good time as any to show a pre-pre-alpha version :-)
So what I have for you today is a demo instance [1] of the Rails Port
that is integrated with Activity Server by means of the new Activity tab
- this tab
When you zoom in to a small area there is indeed no activities in many
places - there is only ~8000 activities in the database at this point,
replication is still in progress.
As for the translation - I have added an English one but for some reason
it is not being picked up in Javascript, so it's
IMHO the separate tabs on osm.org are a little bit fuzzy in their
concept, yet.
We have tabs for search, data details, map key, export and your proposed
activities.
The Tab concept as it's used currently lacks combination possibilities:
It's not possible to show any combination of tabs,
Sure, this is the whole Poland:
http://suncobalt.dyndns.org:8081/?lat=51.61lon=22.44zoom=7layers=M
BTW, the activities are not reloaded automatically (and the Reload
button doesn't work - I will fix that in a minute) right now so when you
change the bounding box you need to click Activity tab
Hi all,
During the EWG meeting last week I volunteered to research migration
feasibility for the help.osm.org platform migration due to i18n problems
with current software (OSQA).
I have started putting together some content on the wiki (see [1]), if
you want to get involved, either by
Hi Tobias,
Thank you very much for your response!
Brainstorm of things I would find interesting in a stream follows:
- activity from other *.osm.org services (forum, help, wiki watchlist)
- posts from blogs.osm.org (not unlike diaries, but hosted externally)
- releases of OSM-related
Hi Richard,
I read the proposal and to be honest I'm not sure about the hypothesis
(Early contact increases mapper engagement). For me it would seem kind
of creepy if a website that I've just registered and done something on
contacted me personally saying You've added a restaurant.
I think that
Hi all,
Back in August I made some noise on IRC and mailing lists about the
activity stream stuff. We had some discussions about technical approach
which were very useful to me. Since then I got side tracked with other
work, both OSM related and otherwise.
However, this weekend I've started
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