Re: [OSM-talk] Dispute over note closure

2024-10-28 Thread Warin
I tend to use the 'comment' tag. I use it to pass thoughts, ideas on to others who are mapping there. Both tags of 'note' and 'fixme' tend to attract people out to 'fix things' rather than those with a real interest in the area. Hummm .. having said that I do tend to 'fix things' using OSMInspec

Re: [OSM-talk] GPX route to bus route

2023-12-06 Thread Warin
On 5/12/23 22:36, Frank via talk wrote: Hi all I hope you are doing fine. I would like to convert an existing GPX track into a bus route (relation) on OSM. Does anyone know how to achieve that, i.e. to create a relation for all involved ways along this very same GPX track? I would have c

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed bulk removal of service=driveway2

2023-06-27 Thread Warin
On 5/9/22 17:10, Minh Nguyen wrote: Vào lúc 09:57 2022-09-03, Tomas Straupis đã viết: 2022-09-03, št, 19:17 Mateusz Konieczny via talk rašė: as sole user of service=driveway2 declared that they are using it for all highway=service where no other service=* value fits, it can be cleanly removed

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

2023-05-18 Thread Warin
On 18/5/23 04:48, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: May 16, 2023, 19:22 by ajt1...@gmail.com: On 24/04/2023 16:57, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: Apr 22, 2023, 14:10 by ajt1...@gmail.com: More generally, anyone with half a brain consuming OSM shop data (or actu

Re: [OSM-talk] bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less)

2023-04-21 Thread Warin
On 21/4/23 04:50, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: bot proposal: shop values cleanup (low use values only, 1 used 250 times, three over 100 times, many used less) For quite long time I am trying to use OSM-based products as Google Maps replacement. One of major issues are POIs (in many apects

Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate Buildings

2023-03-12 Thread Warin
On 11/3/23 23:35, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, I think an automatic fix of the problem is possible, however it would be a good idea to try and find out what the root cause of the problem is - bad software, bad imports, bad instructions? I have duplicated an entry the following way in JOSM; s

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automatic replacements of multiple surface=* and shop=* values (review welcomed!)

2023-02-28 Thread Warin
On 28/2/23 02:09, Dave F via talk wrote: On 25/02/2023 21:44, Andy Mabbett wrote: shop = watch → shop = watches This could plausibly mean watch as in "monitor" - in other words "please watch for developments". No it can't. Well, it should not in OSM terms.

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automatic replacements of multiple surface=* and shop=* values (review welcomed!)

2023-02-28 Thread Warin
On 27/2/23 20:30, Philip Barnes wrote: On 26 February 2023 09:09:53 GMT, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: shop=map -> shop=maps or maybe it would be better to change in opposite direction? it is not too late as it is a rarely used tag There are few shops selling maps t

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automatic replacements of multiple surface=* and shop=* values (review welcomed!)

2023-02-26 Thread Warin
On 26/2/23 20:59, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: Feb 26, 2023, 10:20 by 61sundow...@gmail.com: On 26/2/23 06:08, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: shop = opał → shop = fuel Opal is also a gemstone, Australia being a leading source. It is also a fuel in Australia .

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automatic replacements of multiple surface=* and shop=* values (review welcomed!)

2023-02-26 Thread Warin
On 26/2/23 06:08, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: I proposed some time ago to replace some surface values. The initial script run was recently done, after waiting for a potential feedback. Edit is documented at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/Mateusz_Konieczny_-_bot_acc

Re: [OSM-talk] replace some obviously mistaken surface values by their clear intended meaning

2023-02-12 Thread Warin
On 12/2/23 04:41, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: I propose to replace following surface tags by doing an automated edit: obvious typos: `surface=paving stones` → `surface=paving_stones` `surface=Paving_stones` → `surface=paving_stones` `surface=paving_stones:` → `surface=paving_stones` dif

Re: [OSM-talk] Should we be mapping transformers and powerlines?

2023-01-18 Thread Warin
On 19/1/23 14:03, john whelan wrote: Apparently you can do a lot of expensive damage by firing a rifle bullet through them as happened more than once in the US and given the situation in Europe at the moment is there a risk that something similar could happen there? Should we have a process

Re: [OSM-talk] razed railways and other things that don't exist today

2022-12-11 Thread Warin
On 6/12/22 06:39, Mike Thompson wrote: On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 11:22 AM Minh Nguyen via talk wrote: Vào lúc 09:55 2022-12-05, Zeke Farwell đã viết: > That is a good summary, though "Once the OSM available satellite imagery > does not show the feature" 1) There are other sou

Re: [OSM-talk] razed railways and other things that don't exist today

2022-12-05 Thread Warin
I have placed what I believe is a summary of this discussion on the OSM wiki for lifecycle It reads "The following tags function is to reduce the possibility of a mapper remapping the feature from existing satellite imagery that shows the old state of the feature. Once the OSM available satel

Re: [OSM-talk] Jhulto Pul/ Morbi bridge

2022-11-11 Thread Warin
On 9/11/22 20:26, Andy Mabbett wrote: On Wed, 9 Nov 2022 at 07:46, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: On 8/11/22 01:18, Andy Mabbett wrote: Le 06.11.22 à 20:25, Andy Mabbett a écrit : Someone has deleted the way for the pedestrian bridge at Morbi, India. the bridge If I knew

Re: [OSM-talk] Jhulto Pul/ Morbi bridge

2022-11-08 Thread Warin
On 8/11/22 23:53, Andy Mabbett wrote: On Tue, 8 Nov 2022 at 08:18, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: On 8/11/22 01:18, Andy Mabbett wrote: Le 06.11.22 à 20:25, Andy Mabbett a écrit : Someone has deleted the way for the pedestrian bridge at Morbi, India. the bridge If I knew

Re: [OSM-talk] Jhulto Pul/ Morbi bridge

2022-11-08 Thread Warin
On 8/11/22 01:18, Andy Mabbett wrote: On Mon, 7 Nov 2022 at 13:48, Marc_marc wrote: Le 06.11.22 à 20:25, Andy Mabbett a écrit : Someone has deleted the way for the pedestrian bridge at Morbi, India. the bridge [...] is currently deleted https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/604295549/history

[OSM-talk] razed railways and other things that don't exist today

2022-10-25 Thread Warin
Hi, Question: If OSM is about mapping what exists today .. why have the tags that mean there is nothing left of it? demolished:*=*     Not existing anymore because of active removal  removed:*=*     Not existing anymore because of active removal (possible duplicate of demolished:*=*) razed

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated Populate/Update Problem

2022-09-29 Thread Warin
G'day, Yes to contacting the Ozies on au-talk. In general I'd be careful on changing the 'old' data as some of it maybe better than the departments data, needs a judgement call. I'd think adding to it is fine - reference numbers that are missing, that kind of thing. Adding new stops should

Re: [OSM-talk] I need your help please

2022-09-20 Thread Warin
On 19/9/22 19:38, Fakhreddine Azzouni wrote: Good afternoon, I started using OSM for a tourism project. The idea is make a tour's road map with places from OSM. But some places are not on the map so I added them yesterday. I am using a WordPress Plugin to get locations From OSM. Unfortunately

Re: [OSM-talk] Proper use of route relations?

2020-08-01 Thread Warin
On 2/8/20 6:08 am, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 1. Aug 2020, at 20:48, Yves via talk wrote: This would be better joined in a site relation. why should it? What’s the benefit? An indication that all these things are maintained by one organization? The question as to th

Re: [OSM-talk] Large cadastral polygons

2020-06-12 Thread Warin
On 13/6/20 1:37 am, Paul Johnson wrote: On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 10:28 AM Florian Lohoff > wrote: On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 02:14:15PM +0200, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: > > > > Jun 12, 2020, 13:59 by f...@zz.de : > > > Cha

Re: [OSM-talk] Could/should editors detect/disallow huge changeset bboxes?

2020-06-12 Thread Warin
On 12/6/20 9:19 pm, Colin Smale wrote: On 2020-06-12 13:00, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, I wonder if it would be feasible or desirable for editors to warn users if they are at risk of creating country/world-spanning changesets. Something like "you have unsaved edits more than 500km away from wher

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit Attacks

2020-06-10 Thread Warin
The Changeset: 85357849 comment is "multipolygons for the entire river offer no tangible advantages and not to be used." Sorry but I don't think that is a great comment. Is there any advantage in what you did? If so, what did you do and what are the advantages? On 11/6/20 8:40 am, 80hnhtv4agou

Re: [OSM-talk] river - stream

2020-06-08 Thread Warin
On 9/6/20 12:01 am, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote: YES !, i guess what i am saying i would like to see more drop down options. How many options would you like? Enough for many pages of options? Add seasonal, open_hours, description, etc etc? Personally I don't use drop down menus, prefer

Re: [OSM-talk] fake mapping

2020-06-08 Thread Warin
On 9/6/20 8:26 am, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote: just to be safe i went to a pre-edit location, less than 5 miles 2 hours by public transportation. the satellite view was wrong, the river area were ponds because of the dam, which was not there in 1969 when we went down the river in cement tubs

Re: [OSM-talk] river - stream

2020-06-05 Thread Warin
On 5/6/20 10:45 pm, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote: if water goes under a bridge, why in the ID  editor is it pictured on top of the bridge, when the river stream comes to the bridge can you split and add tunnel ? Is the 'layer=*' tagged correctly??? The item 'on top' should have a layer tag

Re: [OSM-talk] Should we map things that do not exist?

2020-05-26 Thread Warin
Jack Armstrong : Thanks. I'll try that. From: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com > Advise them to enter the historic railway into OHM ... or any historic object for that matter. This satisfies them that the object is mapped and frees

Re: [OSM-talk] Should we map things that do not exist?

2020-05-26 Thread Warin
On 25/5/20 2:37 pm, Jack Armstrong wrote: Greetings. Recently, a user mapped “razed” railways inside a construction zone (link below). These rails had been removed by our local mappers since they don’t exist anymore. Using the latest imagery (Maxar), you can see the rails have been complete

Re: [OSM-talk] Bridge area construction

2020-05-05 Thread Warin
On 6/5/20 8:41 am, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 6. May 2020, at 00:08, Pierre Béland wrote: I dont think that it is appropriate to superpose a landuse over a waterway. this is a good point, but you could spare the waterway out and just tag the construction site on th

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: trace and signs

2020-04-25 Thread Warin
On 25/4/20 8:35 pm, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: Here are some more examples demonstrating that signs could be of interest to travelers. - in this video the popular British travel video-blogger goes to great lengths to get to the specific sign to record his video: https://youtu.be/6RQlQDp1uiU?t=90

Re: [OSM-talk] trace and signs

2020-04-24 Thread Warin
On 25/4/20 2:01 am, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote: if in the ID editor there are points for picnic tables, what about a point tags as a sign. What sort of 'sign'? Mapping a sign that says the road has a name? I'd not do that. I would tag the road with the name. Mapping a sign that says a

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: trace and signs

2020-04-23 Thread Warin
On 24/4/20 7:29 am, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote: 1. how do you close out the trace on the map after edit ? I have no idea what this means. "Close out"? 1. how do you tag a sign, mall, park, forest, that is name of the place, place name. If a mall, park, forest have a name then pu

Re: [OSM-talk] It's time to manage libraries properly in OSM

2020-04-20 Thread Warin
On 21/4/20 10:44 am, Andrew Harvey wrote: Agreed that we could do better, see the proposal process for new tags https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_process. Currently we can already mark if the library is open to the public on not (access=yes means open to the general public), but it'

Re: [OSM-talk] It's time to manage libraries properly in OSM

2020-04-20 Thread Warin
Some questions.. Who will use this information in OSM? In particular ISIL information appears to be, in Australia, for contact between libraries and they will already have systems in place for that so adding that information may not help anyone. The library collection (books/films/etc), use

Re: [OSM-talk] SotM 2020 - Move to virtual conference

2020-03-26 Thread Warin
On 27/3/20 1:16 am, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Thursday 26 March 2020, Christine Karch wrote: the deadline ended a month ago. At the moment it is not planned to call for additional submissions. We will ask the speakers of "accepted talks" first, and then see what the feedback is. If we have too

Re: [OSM-talk] We need your help to thwart this pandemic!

2020-03-20 Thread Warin
If the area is higher risk than an adjacent area then encouraging people to go from the high risk area to the low risk are will simply increase the risk for those who were in what was a lower risk area. For an individual this is great idea. For the community as a whole this is an extremely bad

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed new status for tags in the wiki: "import" for undiscussed tags that were only used by an import

2020-03-18 Thread Warin
On 19/3/20 4:52 pm, stevea wrote: Even the "let's not misunderstand" posts might even contain slight misunderstandings. As Roland mentions tiger:cfcc tags, there is an argument (and documented wiki) that suggests they might still yield some underlying structure of the TIGER rail import in the

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed new status for tags in the wiki: "import" for undiscussed tags that were only used by an import

2020-03-18 Thread Warin
On 18/3/20 10:17 am, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: Unlike some of those who responded, I was not intending this status to be a "mark of shame", but rather informative. A 'mark of shame"? These are neither people or animals. While a contributor may feel some attachment, once it is in OSM it is OSMs to

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed new status for tags in the wiki: "import" for undiscussed tags that were only used by an import

2020-03-17 Thread Warin
sal would be enough, right? Point is to determine where does the tag come from, and it's done by statuslink, not status which reflect the current state of use. All the best François Le mar. 17 mars 2020 à 10:55, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> a é

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed new status for tags in the wiki: "import" for undiscussed tags that were only used by an import

2020-03-17 Thread Warin
On 17/3/20 8:22 pm, Marc M. wrote: Hello Joseph, it may give the impression that this is the way it should be done. I agree to identify these "Noise" or poor quality tags, but with a keyword to show that it's a problem. e.g. status=bad, disputed, error, ... it would be necessary to find a word t

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing Daylight Map Distribution

2020-03-09 Thread Warin
Fixing stuff in OSM purely from imagery may not be good. A local mapper who sees something may add it before any satellite imagery has it. If you then 'fix' this back to the satellite imagery you will have committed an error, and that error may dissuade our most important resource from ever ma

Re: [OSM-talk] Is there some existing detailed tutorial directed at complete newbies? Describing how to add various features?

2020-02-21 Thread Warin
On 22/2/20 3:37 pm, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: Is there some automatically generated website describing in excruciating detail how to map various features? Something directed to a potential mappers, explicitly describing every single smallest step, for every single mappable feature. I as

Re: [OSM-talk] IME no proposals needed | Re: Creation of "Data Items" by bot for undocumented tags

2020-02-18 Thread Warin
There are those who; think the proposal process it the only way to create wiki pages. there are those who degenerate wiki pages with few uses, to the extent of editing those wiki pages to discourage use. 'Any tags you like' is one mantra ... but documenting them in the wiki and leaving them to

Re: [OSM-talk] Forests are mappable - was: Re: OTG rule, borders & mountains existing | Re: Crimea situation - on the ground

2020-02-12 Thread Warin
The problem? Large areas of blank map that, when viewed zoomed out, look to be tree covered areas. Result: Initial mappers tag the large areas as tree covered, ignoring details such as lakes, tree cuttings etc. Some time later details of lakes, tree cuts are added. this may be some years

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag:man_made=embankment

2020-01-16 Thread Warin
IF there is a road with embankments on either side then Volker is correct, just add embankment=yes to the way of the road. In this case the direction of the way does not matter. Read https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:embankment On 17/1/20 9:44 am, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote: OK ! b

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag:man_made=embankment

2020-01-15 Thread Warin
On 16/1/20 9:24 am, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote: maybe i asked it wrong, there is no way per say, it is a land fill and there is something on the top, but to the tracers looking at bing it looks flat but it is a big mountain, on the one hand or a big hole in the case of an reintion dry pond

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag:man_made=embankment

2020-01-15 Thread Warin
On 16/1/20 3:25 am, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote: What does this mean ? “should be tagged on a way drawn with the*_/lower side on right side/_*of way direction” https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dembankment Like cliffs, embankments have a low side and a high side. An OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] is OSM a fake map.

2019-12-30 Thread Warin
On 30/12/19 07:46, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote: i am talking about in my own back yard, i just hiked a mile down the street to check it out, it was not the same when i was there in 1985, but it did not match the mapper either. to that end, bing is 2015 or 16, as an example the county forest

Re: [OSM-talk] water runs backwards.

2019-12-22 Thread Warin
In JOSM there is a tool to reverse a way. Useful not only on incorrect water ways but also cliff lines. On 23/12/19 13:06, stevea wrote: To be clear, it isn't necessarily from "bottom to top," rather, simply know and practice that the direction of a way tagged waterway should be in the direct

Re: [OSM-talk] Maintaining privacy as a casual mapper

2019-11-05 Thread Warin
On 03/11/19 21:42, Philippe Latulippe wrote: Hello everyone! I like to improve OSM casually, making small fixes as I use the map in my day-to-day life. However, doing so without any precautions would reveal a great deal of information about where I've been, since my edits cover exactly the place

Re: [OSM-talk] mapbox, (Changeset Analyzer), whodidit

2019-09-23 Thread Warin
On 24/09/19 12:42, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote:   What are these for anyway, other than stalking ?, There are lots of tools to find things in OSM. I use some of them to find my own errors! They might be used to find out who changed something. What each is intended for may not be all it can b

Re: [OSM-talk] Abuse of natural=cliff tag

2019-09-14 Thread Warin
On 12/09/19 00:13, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Wednesday 11 September 2019, Vladimir Vyskocil wrote: I read carefully your response and looked at the picture. I didn't travelled exactly at this place but will go there in October ! However I've already been in Český ráj

Re: [OSM-talk] sending location from a smart phone.

2019-08-17 Thread Warin
On the SMS front, it is not a question of an app but the receiving organisation Internationally 112 is the single number that is allocated to emergency services from cell phones. In some countries that gets you a call centre that then sends you off to the police, fire or ambulance. in other cou

Re: [OSM-talk] sending location from a smart phone.

2019-08-17 Thread Warin
On 18/08/19 11:22, John Whelan wrote: Apparently some Fire brigades ask people who are lost on moors etc to download What3words then tell them their location. Isn't there a simpler way?  Perhaps to get a text message sent with the long and lat? ref https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-4931976

Re: [OSM-talk] Overpass API - Fetching countries, their capitals, and their borders

2019-08-14 Thread Warin
Rather than do a planet wide dump I would encourage you to do a smaller area dump so you get a smaller sample to test first? On 14/08/19 07:41, Léo El Amri via talk wrote: Hello, I'm trying to fetch countries, their borders, and their capitals through Overpass API, but the server never repli

Re: [OSM-talk] Overpass API - Fetching countries, their capitals, and their borders

2019-08-14 Thread Warin
You have set the "reply to" on your outgoing messages such that replies go to you and not this list. That means the list is not aware of the replies and cannot make comments on them. This hinders understanding and communication. It is better that replies go to the list where all can read

Re: [OSM-talk] Overpass API - Fetching countries, their capitals, and their borders

2019-08-13 Thread Warin
www.openstreetmap.org/relation/286393#map=4/-40.51/-63.63 It has 2 nodes, many ways and a number of separate relations... look at teh above link. One of those ways is Way: Border Chile - Argentina (206446254) and that single way has 393 nodes. On 8/13/2019 6:30 PM, Warin wrote: On 14/08/1

Re: [OSM-talk] Using OSM as database for nature park hiking routes?

2019-08-13 Thread Warin
Are any of their routes already in OSM? If not then pick an existing route local to the area and show them it using https://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/#route?id=8505462 Click on the elevation profile - auto generated. And people can download a gpx file for the route. And they can generate thei

Re: [OSM-talk] Overpass API - Fetching countries, their capitals, and their borders

2019-08-13 Thread Warin
On 14/08/19 07:41, Léo El Amri via talk wrote: Hello, I'm trying to fetch countries, their borders, and their capitals through Overpass API, but the server never replies to me (With a timeout:3600 setting, the server reply with a 502 error after a while). I'm only a beginner with this API, so ma

Re: [OSM-talk] add notes to personal profile

2019-07-18 Thread Warin
On 18/07/19 18:39, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2019-07-18 10:18, Warin wrote: On 18/07/19 17:57, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2019-07-18 09:44, Warin wrote: On 18/07/19 16:58, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2019-07-17 18:03, Philip Barnes wrote: On Wed, 2019-07-17 at 17:40 +0200, Martin Trautmann wrote

Re: [OSM-talk] add notes to personal profile

2019-07-18 Thread Warin
On 18/07/19 17:57, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2019-07-18 09:44, Warin wrote: On 18/07/19 16:58, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2019-07-17 18:03, Philip Barnes wrote: On Wed, 2019-07-17 at 17:40 +0200, Martin Trautmann wrote: Is there any chance to connect the notes database with the user's pr

Re: [OSM-talk] add notes to personal profile

2019-07-18 Thread Warin
On 18/07/19 16:58, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2019-07-17 18:03, Philip Barnes wrote: On Wed, 2019-07-17 at 17:40 +0200, Martin Trautmann wrote: Is there any chance to connect the notes database with the user's profile? Notes that you create, either through osm.org or OSMand can be found on you

Re: [OSM-talk] Ways divided by paint?

2019-07-04 Thread Warin
On 04/07/19 22:23, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 4. Jul 2019, at 11:49, Snusmumriken wrote: A painted line that has the legal status of "do not cross" is a perfectly fine reason to have a separate way. it doesn’t apply to many people though, for example pedestrians or eme

Re: [OSM-talk] Reordering and rewriting Good Practice wiki page

2019-07-04 Thread Warin
On 05/07/19 05:54, Jmapb wrote: On 7/4/2019 12:40 AM, Warin wrote: On the order of things. Best to tell them what to do first. This provides some motivation. Leave 'what not to do' for last, these tend to turn people away. So I would do: 1    One feature, one OSM element

Re: [OSM-talk] Reordering and rewriting Good Practice wiki page

2019-07-03 Thread Warin
On the order of things. Best to tell them what to do first. This provides some motivation. Leave 'what not to do' for last, these tend to turn people away. So I would do: 1 One feature, one OSM element 2 Good changeset comments (+Keep the history) 3 Editing Standards: (Alig

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM user diary etiquette

2019-06-25 Thread Warin
On 25/06/19 18:45, Harry Wood wrote: Anyway...  on the broader principle. At the risk of bringing back the "code of conduct" discussion... If we set out somewhere a set of community standards in terms of "be nice to eachother", but also the types of topics we expect to appear as OpenStreetMap

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit - addition of office=diplomatic to amenity=embassy with country=*

2019-06-19 Thread Warin
ut this probably requires local survey or at least extensive searching of web pages for every feature. On 6/19/19, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 18.06.19 03:21, Warin wrote: Following the successful proposal of introducing office=diplomatic to eventually replace the amenity=embassy (which is us

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit - addition of office=diplomatic to amenity=embassy with country=*

2019-06-18 Thread Warin
matic. This will not get all of them - some are outside cities, some don't have the country tag. But it will get most of them. The rest should be done by locals, possibly maproulette? Mike On 2019-06-18 03:21, Warin wrote: Following the successful proposal of introducing office=dip

[OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit - addition of office=diplomatic to amenity=embassy with country=*

2019-06-17 Thread Warin
Following the successful proposal of introducing office=diplomatic to eventually replace the amenity=embassy (which is used to not only tag embassies but other diplomatic service) I am proposing to add the approved tag office=diplomatic to all instances that have both the tag amenity=embassy wi

Re: [OSM-talk] An Archive namespace for the OSM wiki?

2019-04-20 Thread Warin
On 20/04/19 17:24, Jochen Topf wrote: On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 10:02:48PM +0200, Michael Reichert wrote: there is currently a voting on a Deletion Policy [1] for the OSM wiki. The policy was drafted because we had two incidents last year when someone tried to delete a large number of old and orph

Re: [OSM-talk] DJI Fly SafeGEO ZONE MAP uses OSM data... without attribution

2019-03-19 Thread Warin
On 19/03/19 09:51, Nuno Caldeira wrote: Was curious where DJI managed to get a worldwide DB of polygons of military facilities and points of prisons, triple checked with a couple of other users of OSM at Telegram and with polygons i added seven years ago. Without a doubt its from OSM, the coord

Re: [OSM-talk] trash racks in front or after waterway=culvert

2019-03-11 Thread Warin
On 12/03/19 11:25, MonkZ wrote: Hiho, I'm seeking for a proper tag Best list for this is tagg...@openstreetmap.org for installations (trash racks / screens) like this: http://www.bonn.de/imperia/md/images/umwelt-gesund-planen-bauen-wohn/plan-bau-wohn/tiefbauamt/endenicher_bach_2014_01_w.jp

Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

2019-03-02 Thread Warin
On 02/03/19 10:39, Simon Poole wrote: Am 01.03.2019 um 23:29 schrieb Stefan Keller: I applaud that the LWG is undertaking an effort to sure up our attribution guidance. IMO the sentence in question MUST be changed from "should" to MUST! The, rather old, issue with that, is that it stops people

Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

2019-02-28 Thread Warin
On 01/03/19 09:50, Paul Norman via talk wrote: On 2019-02-28 2:35 p.m., Richard Fairhurst wrote: In recent years some OSM data consumers and "OSM as a service" providers have begun to put the credit to OpenStreetMap behind an click-through 'About', 'Credits', 'Legal' or '(i)' link. Examples:

Re: [OSM-talk] Editing road geometry Australia

2019-01-11 Thread Warin
On 11/01/19 21:45, Markus wrote: On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 07:40, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2019-01-11 07:16, Petra Rajka - (p) wrote: See below two cases where we would simplify the geometry: * -32.0914374, 116.0129206 Is seen no big problem in how the roads are layed out there. Coming fr

Re: [OSM-talk] Editing road geometry Australia

2019-01-11 Thread Warin
A left turn there would be legal, unless there is a local sign. So I would not place a turn restriction on it base on satellite imagery. On 12/01/19 07:47, Jem wrote: Spot on. Although the routing engine data could impose a turn restriction here based upon geometry as part of their data pipeli

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag:barrier=kerb

2018-12-17 Thread Warin
On 17/12/18 19:38, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am Fr., 14. Dez. 2018 um 17:09 Uhr schrieb Bryan Housel mailto:bhou...@gmail.com>>: The arrows indicate the “down” direction alongside certain kinds of ways. For example, cliffs, coastlines, retaining walls, kerbs, guard rails, em

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: DWG policy on Crimea

2018-11-02 Thread Warin
On 23/10/18 03:24, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: 22. Oct 2018 16:59 by colin.sm...@xs4all.nl : On 2018-10-22 16:34, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: I strongly disagree, we map reality. There is no one true reality, only perceptions. There is both a true rea

Re: [OSM-talk] Zoom to search results on the map

2018-10-26 Thread Warin
On 26/10/18 17:26, Maarten Deen wrote: When you search on something in the searchbox on openstreetmap.org that returns multiple results, the map moves to the first result and when you hover over the result it displays a marker. But for all the other results, you need to click to see where it is.

Re: [OSM-talk] Proximity

2018-09-28 Thread Warin
On 29/09/18 07:21, john whelan wrote: I drifted down to a government conference on open data and software today and whilst there a question came up concerning proximity to a hospital. Just a planner wondering where to put it to maximise the ease of access for as many people as possible. You

Re: [OSM-talk] Waterway rel with mix of line & poly

2018-09-20 Thread Warin
On 21/09/18 06:11, Jem wrote: Thank you both. That's very helpful. On Thu, 20 Sep 2018 at 22:25, Dave F > wrote: Hi Short answer: Yes There's a few problems here: Relations should not be used to collect thing together. ? That is what the

Re: [OSM-talk] loc_name vs. reg_name

2018-09-19 Thread Warin
On 19/09/18 15:40, Bernhard R. Fischer wrote: On 2018-09-18 09:26, Warin wrote: On 18/09/18 16:37, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 18. Sep 2018, at 07:02, Bernhard R. Fischer wrote: Is there any clarification about the difference between loc_name and reg_name? in which

Re: [OSM-talk] loc_name vs. reg_name

2018-09-19 Thread Warin
On 19/09/18 15:28, Bernhard R. Fischer wrote: Hi! Ok, basically I understand the difference between "local" and "regional". But actually I thought that this/these tags are used for names of entities which are used by locals (in contrast to the official name of something). In this case, having

Re: [OSM-talk] loc_name vs. reg_name

2018-09-18 Thread Warin
On 18/09/18 16:37, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 18. Sep 2018, at 07:02, Bernhard R. Fischer wrote: Is there any clarification about the difference between loc_name and reg_name? in which sense? Both tags are used for alternative names, local is smaller/narrower in scope

Re: [OSM-talk] Extend natural=shingle tag also for city stone areas.

2018-08-31 Thread Warin
On 01/09/18 04:12, Tomasz Wójcik wrote: As we map different physical landcovers by eg. landuse=grass, landuse=forest No. landuse=forest is for managed areas .. not for a general tree area. use natural=wood (for the render). I place additional tags with these land cover features landuse=grass g

Re: [OSM-talk] Representing places with no housenumber

2018-08-24 Thread Warin
On 24/08/18 18:40, Rory McCann wrote: On 22/08/18 23:40, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Wednesday 22 August 2018, Rory McCann wrote: The single most important property of an address is that it is unique 35% of addresses in Ireland aren't unique. I strongly suspect we have a different understan

Re: [OSM-talk] Barrier=block areas

2018-08-23 Thread Warin
On 24/08/18 03:49, Philip Barnes wrote: On Fri, 2018-08-17 at 07:51 +1000, Warin wrote: If the thought is to map a group of blocks as an area .. then my vote is no at least without more information. It raises the question as to what the level of obstruction is - are motorcycles bared by this

Re: [OSM-talk] Representing places with no housenumber

2018-08-22 Thread Warin
On 23/08/18 11:08, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 22. Aug 2018, at 22:28, Christoph Hormann wrote: Specifying addr:street on a building that does not have an address is either pointless or non-verifiable. as I explained above, we don’t add address tags to buildings in gene

Re: [OSM-talk] Representing places with no housenumber

2018-08-22 Thread Warin
On 23/08/18 09:18, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Thursday 23 August 2018, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote: Usually the places without a housenumber here have some kind of intrinsic distinctiveness/uniqueness. For example, an airport located in a road (there won't be 2 airports at the same road), some

Re: [OSM-talk] Representing places with no housenumber

2018-08-22 Thread Warin
On 23/08/18 02:37, Andreas Vilén wrote: Please don’t use name=no name. Use noname=yes. +1 name= is for the name only. If it has no name then the tag name= should not be used. /Andreas Skickat från min iPhone 22 aug. 2018 kl. 17:17 skrev Nelson A. de Oliveira : What is the best way to r

Re: [OSM-talk] Barrier=block areas

2018-08-16 Thread Warin
If the thought is to map a group of blocks as an area .. then my vote is no at least without more information. It raises the question as to what the level of obstruction is - are motorcycles bared by this barrier? Horses? How badly are pedestrians impeded? What about people in wheelchairs? So t

Re: [OSM-talk] AI detecting of buildings Idle thoughts

2018-08-16 Thread Warin
On 16/08/18 19:26, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Thursday 16 August 2018, Warin wrote: As that particular mapper has local knowledge on their side I'd not challenge them. Why not? I would love to see some ground level or aerial/satellite images documenting the verifiability of those out

Re: [OSM-talk] AI detecting of buildings Idle thoughts

2018-08-16 Thread Warin
On 16/08/18 17:56, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Thursday 16 August 2018, john whelan wrote: Could this be used to detect villages and towns which have not yet been mapped. If something could drop some sort of marker where it thinks a cluster of buildings are then we could use overpass to pull th

Re: [OSM-talk] Barrier=block areas

2018-08-15 Thread Warin
On 16/08/18 09:33, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: barrier=block is intended for barriers, i.e. they block a highway. Blocks for decorative or recreational purposes arranged at squares or on the side of streets are not covered by the tag. -1 for the proposed change. Blocks are increasing used o

Re: [OSM-talk] building=grandstand vs leisure=bleachers

2018-07-14 Thread Warin
The important part of that past talk thread was the question as to changing the wiki grandstand definition to say that it must have a roof rather than usually has a roof. Unfortunately both the Oxford Dictionary and Wikipedia say 'usually roofed'. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandstand So

Re: [OSM-talk] building=grandstand vs leisure=bleachers

2018-07-13 Thread Warin
To me a grandstand has a roof and probably a back wall. A 'bleacher' has no roof nor walls .. it is simply seating totally exposed to the elements. On 14/07/18 16:23, Tomasz Wójcik wrote: Currently, we (de facto) have 2 tags for the same feature, which is not a proper state. https://wiki.o

Re: [OSM-talk] Scientific paper on "Information Seeding"

2018-07-09 Thread Warin
On 09/07/18 18:35, Christoph Hormann wrote: And if you want to know about how to successfully map and build a local mapping community in a large and sparsely populated country and are fed up with the namby-pamby western Europeans who don't know a thing about this maybe talk to the Russians...

Re: [OSM-talk] Why the HOT obsession with low quality buildings in Africa ?

2018-07-02 Thread Warin
On 02/07/18 18:52, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 02.07.2018 10:24, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: churning out buildings like demented stonemasons trying to reach their weekly quota of gamified task-managing ! I recently stumbled upon https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/-6.8958/39.1623 (Tanzania

Re: [OSM-talk] About OSM social implications and what can/should be displayed on the map (or not)

2018-06-30 Thread Warin
On 30/06/18 01:27, Carlos Cámara wrote: Dear all, After participating in this openstreetmap-carto issue discussing to create an icon for casinos in which I stated that they should not be highlighted with an icon due to their gr

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