[OSM-talk-be] herinnering Antwerps OSM Cafe zondag 25 oktober

2009-10-21 Thread Luc Van den Troost
Dag allen, Even nog een herinnering aan het Antwerps OSM cafe aanstaande zondag. De pagina 'state of the openstreetmap in Antwerpen' http://www.bb2000.be/stratenzoeker/state.html is zonet nog geupdated. Er is de laatste weken nog hard gewerkt aan een aantal witte zones. Merksem,

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-21 Thread Ulf Lamping
Peter Childs schrieb: Yes But, If a Pub is tagged amenity=pub disused=yes The thing looks like a put (ie large pub like lables) hence works relatively well as a land mark, it just happens to be closed and does not sell Beer anymore. Its still useful if its a landmark. same as a

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-21 Thread John Smith
2009/10/21 Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com: A former cafe can be helpful as a landmark as well. Especially when it's a free standing building (e.g. in a forest) near a larger city, which is not that uncommon in germany. If you stand in front of it, you'll now this once was a cafe.

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-21 Thread Gustav Foseid
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.comwrote: A former cafe can be helpful as a landmark as well. Especially when it's a free standing building (e.g. in a forest) near a larger city, which is not that uncommon in germany. Is it a cafe? No. Should it be tagged

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-21 Thread Someoneelse
Ulf Lamping wrote: A former cafe can be helpful as a landmark as well. Especially when it's a free standing building (e.g. in a forest) near a larger city, which is not that uncommon in germany. Whether you think it's still a café (or a pub) or not might depend on how hungry or thirsty you

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-21 Thread Ulf Lamping
Someoneelse schrieb: Ulf Lamping wrote: A former cafe can be helpful as a landmark as well. Especially when it's a free standing building (e.g. in a forest) near a larger city, which is not that uncommon in germany. Whether you think it's still a café (or a pub) or not might depend on

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-21 Thread Someoneelse
Ulf Lamping wrote: What part of former cafe is it that don't you understand? Well, amenity=former_cafe I certainly DO understand. I thought that you were arguing in favour of the construct further up the thread: amenity=pub disused=yes To my mind a pub that doesn't serve beer some of the

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-21 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 21 Oct 2009, at 09:44, Ulf Lamping wrote: Peter Childs schrieb: Yes But, If a Pub is tagged amenity=pub disused=yes The thing looks like a put (ie large pub like lables) hence works relatively well as a land mark, it just happens to be closed and does not sell Beer anymore. Its still

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-21 Thread Liz
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009, Ulf Lamping wrote: What part of former cafe is it that don't you understand? the disused part I understand former_cafe quite well and i wonder how we got to cafe from mineshaft ?? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/10/21 Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com: Someoneelse wrote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Mineshaft http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Surface_Mining It would be helpful to know what people are mapping these features as currently - looking in the

Re: [OSM-talk] Older planet files (from 2007)?

2009-10-21 Thread Ciprian Talaba
Hi everybody, On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Yes, it's called planet.openstreetmap.org! Note, however, that if you go any earlier than October 2007 you will encounter version 0.4 planet files which cannot be processed using today's tools. You will

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-21 Thread Anthony
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 4:44 AM, Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com wrote: A former cafe can be helpful as a landmark as well. Especially when it's a free standing building (e.g. in a forest) near a larger city, which is not that uncommon in germany. So propose landmark=cafe. Much easier

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Proper attribution

2009-10-21 Thread Peter Miller
On 20 Oct 2009, at 12:01, Tom Hughes wrote: On 20/10/09 11:36, Peter Miller wrote: On 20 Oct 2009, at 11:03, Sam Larsen wrote: I am looking into the proper attribution of OSM in a tiled web mapping scenario. I know the guidelines on attribution can be found on the wiki - and i have read

Re: [OSM-talk] Older planet files (from 2007)?

2009-10-21 Thread John Smith
2009/10/21 Ciprian Talaba cipriantal...@gmail.com: Thanks for all the info. With your help I was able to obtain older extracts for Romania and to create some evolution movies. They are not great compared with what ITO have done in the past but they covered our needs (we have also contacted

Re: [OSM-talk] Older planet files (from 2007)?

2009-10-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Ciprian Talaba wrote: I had only one small issue with older planet files: after converting from API 0.4 to API 0.5 some of the ways had members without ref I suspect this is a case where a way consisted of one segment but the nodes belonging to that segment were not present in the

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-21 Thread Someoneelse
Lesi wrote: ... There should be man_made=peak. There will be if you tag one. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal -RFC -(man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-21 Thread John F. Eldredge
It seems like it would make more sense to have a tag called peak, with attributes natural or manmade, rather than the other way around. After all, every object in the world is either manmade or natural. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Reserve your right to think, for even to think

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-21 Thread Dave F.
Tobias Knerr wrote: Because tags like disused=yes conflict with a general principle in OSM: We don't have a fixed set of tags and mappers can invent and use their own tags, so it should be possible for software to ignore tags it doesn't know without causing problems. If I don't support

[OSM-talk] updates for mapnik coastline-source?

2009-10-21 Thread StilgarBF
Hi, does anyone know when or how often the shoreline/coastline/shapefiles are updated that Mapnik uses to render coasts, islands ... ? the Wiki says: every few weeks (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Coastline) But what's that supposed to mean? 2 weeks? 4 or 10? Is this a process where

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-21 Thread Tobias Knerr
Dave F. wrote: I can't work out if you're agreeing or disagreeing with me, but anyway... Are you suggesting there's no exception rule for renderers?: Ignore all subsequent keys except for ones label disused or abandoned I agree that a renderer should be able to deal with tags like

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-21 Thread Dave F.
Tobias Knerr wrote: Dave F. wrote: I can't work out if you're agreeing or disagreeing with me, but anyway... Are you suggesting there's no exception rule for renderers?: Ignore all subsequent keys except for ones label disused or abandoned I agree that a renderer should be able to

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-21 Thread Tobias Knerr
Dave F.: However, I believe that using a common key instead of disused/construction/abandoned/...=yes and distinguishing these using different *values* would have been the better alternative. Common Key? Can you give an example? If you mean status=disused, I'm not sure how that get around

[OSM-talk] Reading AutoCAD .dwg in JOSM/Merkaartor on Mac

2009-10-21 Thread Aun Yngve Johnsen
Hi I have got hold on some maps in AutoCAD .dwg format, and want to use it as a layer for tracing roads, buildings, and other features into OSM. I am Mac user, but have access to Linux (Ubuntu) if I need that to convert the data or to set up a WMS/TMS with the data. I just wonder if

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Proper attribution

2009-10-21 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 21 Oct 2009, at 18:58, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Peter Miller wrote: Sure, so lets get that page showing how things should be onto the wiki I think we've got that bit already:

Re: [OSM-talk] Vanuatu

2009-10-21 Thread Michael Kugelmann
Andrew Errington schrieb: I received some GPS traces from someone in Vanuatu. as Vanuatu is large (lots of islands) and I was curious I looked around a litte bit to find the traces. Here is an area where some GPS traces are present and where work seems to make sense: [output from JOSM log

Re: [OSM-talk] updates for mapnik coastline-source?

2009-10-21 Thread Grant Slater
2009/10/21 StilgarBF o...@projekt2k.de: does anyone know when or how often the shoreline/coastline/shapefiles are updated that Mapnik uses to render coasts, islands ... ? the Wiki says: every few weeks (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Coastline) But what's that supposed to mean? 2 weeks? 4

Re: [OSM-talk] Vanuatu

2009-10-21 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 3:29 AM, Andrew Errington a.erring...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote: I received some GPS traces from someone in Vanuatu.  He had had them for some time, but didn't have the opportunity to slice them up and upload them.  I took the data and used gpsbabel to split the entire GPS

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-21 Thread Cartinus
On Wednesday 21 October 2009 15:45:49 Anthony wrote: On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 4:44 AM, Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com wrote: A former cafe can be helpful as a landmark as well. Especially when it's a free standing building (e.g. in a forest) near a larger city, which is not that

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-21 Thread Anthony
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl wrote: On Wednesday 21 October 2009 15:45:49 Anthony wrote: On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 4:44 AM, Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com wrote: A former cafe can be helpful as a landmark as well. Especially when it's a free standing

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] proposal for deletion: talk-us-ga and

2009-10-21 Thread Richard Weait
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 7:34 PM, Sarah Manley sarah.m.man...@gmail.com wrote: What is the status of the forum: http://forum.openstreetmap.org? Would building this out more maybe solve some of our problems? Preference for email vs web forum varies from community to community. In my limited

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] proposal for deletion: talk-us-ga and

2009-10-21 Thread Dave Hansen
On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 19:40 -0400, Richard Weait wrote: On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 7:34 PM, Sarah Manley sarah.m.man...@gmail.com wrote: What is the status of the forum: http://forum.openstreetmap.org? Would building this out more maybe solve some of our problems? Preference for email vs

Re: [OSM-talk] Reading AutoCAD .dwg in JOSM/Merkaartor on Mac

2009-10-21 Thread Dave F.
Aun Yngve Johnsen wrote: Hi I have got hold on some maps in AutoCAD .dwg format, and want to use it as a layer for tracing roads, buildings, and other features into OSM. I believe you have to go *DXF* - SHP- *OSM. If you do a google search should pull up some info. Cheers Dave F. *

Re: [OSM-talk] Reading AutoCAD .dwg in JOSM/Merkaartor on Mac

2009-10-21 Thread Sam Vekemans
Hi, If your just going to be 'tracing' from public domain maps (dwg files) maybe gpsbabel could convert it to gpx, and trace over it that way would work? Would be interesting to learn your findings. Then we could post it on the wiki (if possable, and explain the method) Sam On 10/21/09, Aun

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-21 Thread Russ Nelson
Gustav Foseid writes: Is it a cafe? No. Should it be tagged as a cafe? No. Clearly one could verify that the location seems to be a cafe. Thus this is not a question about whether it should be tagged, but instead how it should be tagged as a former cafe. May I suggest use of the Nelson

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-21 Thread Russ Nelson
Cartinus writes: Nobody is changing any definitions. They are just using a combination of two existing and widely used tags. Much, much easier than writing a proposal for a new tag. If it's obviously the right thing to do, then do it, and DOCUMENT IT IN THE WIKI so that other people can

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] proposal for deletion: talk-us-ga and

2009-10-21 Thread Lester Caine
Dave Hansen wrote: On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 19:40 -0400, Richard Weait wrote: On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 7:34 PM, Sarah Manley sarah.m.man...@gmail.com wrote: What is the status of the forum: http://forum.openstreetmap.org? Would building this out more maybe solve some of our problems?

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] proposal for deletion: talk-us-ga and

2009-10-21 Thread Stephen Hope
2009/10/22 Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk: There is not currently a single solution, but I see no reason why a good email based list can't simply add a web based interactive archive as well? There are solutions, but all the ones I know about are commercial. I use a board based on MPNews

Re: [Talk-in] veg and non-veg

2009-10-21 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Wednesday 21 Oct 2009 1:14:49 pm ヴィカス ヤダワ (vikas yadav) wrote: (OffTopic Parking lots in coimbature for example are very different and located elsewhere for two wheelers and four wheelers. Just noting what had been on my mind since long. any scope of it also changing?) as far as I know,

Re: [Talk-in] veg and non-veg

2009-10-21 Thread Guillaume Audirac
Hi, or can we have keys for this like veg=yes/no nonveg=yes/no so that this can cover hotels that server both veg and non-veg. Personally, I find more appropriate to use the existing tags: amenity = restaurant, combined with: cuisine = vegetarian or cuisine = non-vegetarian Have a look

Re: [Talk-in] veg and non-veg

2009-10-21 Thread Guillaume Audirac
I do not agree. This is more fundamental than cuisine in the indian context. Cuisine could be north indian, continental, chinese, american or what have you. The first point for determination of where to eat is veg/non-veg, as far as India is concerned. This is evidenced by the government

Re: [Talk-in] veg and non-veg

2009-10-21 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Guillaume Audirac guillaume.audi...@gmail.com wrote: Moreover, I am not sure of the relevance of the non-vegetarian attribute. All the non-vegetarian restaurants I know propose vegetarian meals. You'll find military restaurants along highways all over India

[Talk-it] Mappa escursionistica globale WAS: [Talk- de] Wanderwege-Overlay jetzt weltweit verfügbar

2009-10-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
- C'è una nuova mappa escusionistica qui: http://osm.lonvia.de/world_hiking.html - viene attualizato ogni giorno - ci saranno ancora cambiamenti nelle prossime settimane - l'implementazione di osmc:symbol non è ancora finito - E' possibile usare stili personalizzati per regioni diversi, se ci

Re: [Talk-it] Mappa escursionistica globale WAS: [ Talk-de] Wanderwege-Overlay jetzt weltweit verf ügbar

2009-10-21 Thread Federico Cozzi
2009/10/21 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: http://osm.lonvia.de/world_hiking/regional_de.html Per chi non legge il tedesco: http://osm.lonvia.de/world_hiking/regional.html Bellissima segnalazione, Martin! Ciao, Federico ___ Talk-it

Re: [Talk-it] Mappa escursionistica globale WAS: [Talk- de] Wanderwege-Overlay jetzt weltweit verfügbar

2009-10-21 Thread Alberto Nogaro
-Original Message- From: talk-it-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-it- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Martin Koppenhoefer Sent: mercoledì 21 ottobre 2009 13.25 To: openstreetmap list - italiano Subject: [Talk-it] Mappa escursionistica globale WAS: [Talk-de] Wanderwege-

[Talk-it] mailing list

2009-10-21 Thread Luca Delucchi
Si potrebbe aprire a tutti la visione degli iscritti alla mailing list? vorrei sapere il numero di iscritti ciao Luca ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it

Re: [Talk-it] mailing list

2009-10-21 Thread iiizio iiizio
2009/10/21 Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com: Si potrebbe aprire a tutti la visione degli iscritti alla mailing list? vorrei sapere il numero di iscritti Allora perché non chiedi semplicemente il numero di iscritti? Riguardo alla lista degli iscritti se ne era già parlato l'anno scorso e la

Re: [Talk-it] mailing list

2009-10-21 Thread Luca Delucchi
Il 21 ottobre 2009 21.14, iiizio iiizio iiizio.iii...@gmail.com ha scritto: 2009/10/21 Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com: Si potrebbe aprire a tutti la visione degli iscritti alla mailing list? vorrei sapere il numero di iscritti Allora perché non chiedi semplicemente il numero di iscritti?

Re: [Talk-it] mailing list

2009-10-21 Thread Simone Cortesi
2009/10/21 Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com: perchè non vorrei ogni volta che voglio sapere quanti iscritti ci sono chiederlo all'amministratore che magari risponde troppo tardi.. ;-) 292 iscritti. maestro ci ho messo troppo a risponderle? :) -S

Re: [Talk-it] mailing list

2009-10-21 Thread iiizio iiizio
2009/10/21 Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com: Il 21 ottobre 2009 21.14, iiizio iiizio iiizio.iii...@gmail.com ha scritto: 2009/10/21 Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com: Si potrebbe aprire a tutti la visione degli iscritti alla mailing list? vorrei sapere il numero di iscritti Allora perché

Re: [Talk-us-bayarea] [Talk-us] proposal for deletion: talk-us-ga and talk-us-bayarea

2009-10-21 Thread Sarah Manley
First, you should probably include these lists on your mail if you plan to delete them. Its important to not take away something from the community without informing them. Some folks may not be on the general talk lists, and only these area specific ones. I agree that for the bay area, it is

Re: [Talk-hr] problemi pri pregledavanju karte

2009-10-21 Thread Habijan Joža
Darko Boto wrote: Meni je sve ok... uredno mi se ucitava i podrucje oko Sinja. Nemam pojma.. probaj stisnuti Ctrl+F5 2009/10/21 Habijan Jo�ža jhabi...@gmail.com: more OSM coming soon,ve� dva dana gledam tu poruku. Imate li kakvo saznanje o tome? pozz joŞa ocistio cash i opet ista

Re: [Talk-hr] Razmjena podataka?

2009-10-21 Thread Matija Nalis
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 02:03:01PM +, Viktor Bresan wrote: Matija Nalis mnalis-openstreetmapl...@... writes: Nama osobno sigurno ne bi, pitanje je da li bi smetalo zakonu o autorskom pravu i srodnim pravima (NN 167/2003). ... Sudeći po svemu navedenome, podaci iz moje baze baš se i ne

Re: [talk-ph] new high-res images available from digitalglobe

2009-10-21 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Well, once option 1 is set, people can start tracing. Also, we can then start organizing for an event for this. It would be nice if we can get someone who is familiar with Pangasinan. On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 3:06 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: For option 1 somebody at main

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Proper attribution

2009-10-21 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Peter Miller wrote: Sure, so lets get that page showing how things should be onto the wiki I think we've got that bit already: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Legal_FAQ#I_would_like_to_use_OpenStreetMap_maps._How_should_I_credit_you.3F cheers Richard -- View this message in context:

[OSM-legal-talk] What should be considered legal?

2009-10-21 Thread rhn
I'm a mapper for more than a year, and I know a little bit about intellectual property, but some questions have been puzzling me for quite some time. First of them - how much is allowed when referring to proprietary maps? Is it right to look at the street names to see whether I got them right?

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Cijfertjes?

2009-10-21 Thread Lambertus
Wat weinig! :( Hoe kan het dat het land met de meest bruikbare OSM data maar zo weinig leden op het belangrijkste communicatie medium heeft? Ik denk dat er in NL vooral iets mankeert aan de community building. Wij doen wellicht te weinig om actieve leden te werven. Hoe kunnen we dit

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Cijfertjes?

2009-10-21 Thread Lambertus
Ja, we vinden allemaal (?) dat we te weinig doen. Dus moeten we dit NU omzetten naar actie! We hebben een stichting -met wat prominente NL OSM-ers in het bestuur- dat de intentie heeft de community van OSM te ondersteunen, alleen komt er maar weinig uit. Hiervoor zijn allemaal wellicht goede

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Cijfertjes?

2009-10-21 Thread Milo van der Linden
Lambertus schreef: Ja, we vinden allemaal (?) dat we te weinig doen. Dus moeten we dit NU omzetten naar actie! We hebben een stichting -met wat prominente NL OSM-ers in het bestuur- dat de intentie heeft de community van OSM te ondersteunen, alleen komt er maar weinig uit. Hiervoor zijn

[OSM-talk-nl] Gebruik OpenStreetMap in CycloMedia GlobeSpotter

2009-10-21 Thread Bart van Velden
Goedendag allen, Ik heb eerder geïnformeerd naar de juist licentie weergave van OpenStreetMap in een nieuw product van CycloMedia. Op Youtube is nu een filmpje http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzMKqvrN3DU geplaatst van deze applicatie. In de applicatie wordt OpenStreetMap als overlay op

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Shapefiles aanbieden

2009-10-21 Thread Martijn van Exel
Zeker een goed idee. Laat je deze link staan? Ik kan 'm hier onder collega's verspreiden, kijken of daar nog wensen / ervaringen uitkomen? Martijn martijn van exel http://schaaltreinen.nl/ twitter / skype: mvexel flickr: rhodes 2009/10/21 Roeland Douma u...@rullzer.com On Wednesday 21

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Trunk

2009-10-21 Thread Martijn van Exel
Mij lijkt trunk voor autowegen[1] goed, maar volgens mij valt de Nieuwe Leeuwarderweg daar niet onder. Op dit moment mag je er zelfs maar 50. Volgens mij heb ik die weg al een keer omgetagd naar primary, maar ik ga er geen editwar over beginnen ;) Martijn [1]

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Mapit1418 - Beelden voor de toekomst

2009-10-21 Thread Martijn van Exel
Geodan heeft een game gemaakt voor de Week van de Geschiedenis in opdracht van het Nationaal Archief / Kennisland in het kader van dit project. Ook daarin wordt OSM gebruikt. Hier een paar preview-foto's http://picasaweb.google.com/mvexel/NationaalArchiefGame# Ik weet het - nog geen attributie -

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Shapefiles aanbieden

2009-10-21 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009, Martijn van Exel wrote: shapes.openstreetmap.nl werkt voor mij nog niet, ik neem aan gewoon te wachten op de DNS? Hier wel ;) trage DNS aan jouw kant. Stefan ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Trunk

2009-10-21 Thread Sybren A . Stüvel
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:49:58PM +0200, Martijn van Exel wrote: Maar dat is de Google-werkelijkheid!! :D En de echte :) afgelopen weekend nog langs gereden, en het is een autoweg. De tagging is niet symmetrisch, zie http://osm.org/go/0E7ASLtqf- Is dit expres of per ongeluk? -- Sybren A.

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Cijfertjes?

2009-10-21 Thread Rob
Op 21 oktober 2009 11:22 heeft Lambertus o...@na1400.info het volgende geschreven: Ja, we vinden allemaal (?) dat we te weinig doen. Dus moeten we dit NU omzetten naar actie! we doen genoeg ;) alleen niet op ledenwervingsgebied ik zie een aantal uitdagingen daarbij op onze weg liggen - Wat

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Shapefiles aanbieden

2009-10-21 Thread Milo van der Linden
Een belangrijk speerpunt om onze eigen shapes te hosten: - Beschikbaar maken in de RD (28992) projectie... Stefan de Konink schreef: On Wed, 21 Oct 2009, Martijn van Exel wrote: shapes.openstreetmap.nl werkt voor mij nog niet, ik neem aan gewoon te wachten op de DNS? Hier wel

Re: [talk-au] When does a road become a track?

2009-10-21 Thread Sam Couter
John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Most people aren't taught to drive or grow up on dirt roads, I only have a 2wd car and I'll drive it on roads some/most people wouldn't, so that's a bit too subjective... Ditto for me. If it'll go I'll drive it, and occasionally when it won't.

Re: [talk-au] How to tag a non-existent road

2009-10-21 Thread Brendan Morley
Yes I have an objection. From what I can tell, roads are generally not gazetted in Queensland. The exceptions seem to be State transport routes (i.e. those under control of Main Roads). All roads are registered as part of survey plans and the like. By way of illustration:

Re: [talk-au] How to tag a non-existent road

2009-10-21 Thread John Smith
2009/10/22 Evan Sebire e...@sebire.org: In Melbourne people sometimes use the term 'unmade' for non-sealed roads.  So perhaps something clearer like gazetted would suit Australia.   Someone on another list mentioned 'non-existent' being better for non-native English speakers.  But I think this

Re: [talk-au] How to tag a non-existent road

2009-10-21 Thread Evan Sebire
I like 'gazetted_road', but I think it should be 'non-existent'. Looking at dictionary.com(which isn't a great reference) nobody would understand gazetted road, then I tried the best German translator dict.cc and it failed. Googling Gazetted road comes back with variety of answers, none of

Re: [Talk-br] Apresentação e dúvidas

2009-10-21 Thread Arlindo Pereira
Isso é verdade. O Claudomiro me emprestou o Garmin eTrex Vista HCx e eu estou apaixonado! :D Quero ver se consigo que algum amigo traga de fora pra mim, porque ele novo é muuuito mais caro do que o preço dele novo nos Estados Unidos por exemplo. []s 2009/10/21 Claudomiro Nascimento Junior

[Talk-br] GPS Bluetooth e Nokia N800

2009-10-21 Thread Diogo
Olá Pessoal, Para quem está interessado em comprar um GPS, eu tenho um GPSlim 240 Bluetooth da Holux que tenho algum interesse em vender. Já o possuo há algum tempo, mas está em excelente estado de conservação. Ele é extremamente pequeno (do tamanho de um batom) e a bateria dura aprox. 8 horas

Re: [Talk-br] Apresentação e dúvidas

2009-10-21 Thread Flavio Bello Fialho
O Garmin eTrex Legend HCx é mais barato que o Vista e também é ótimo. Estou mapeando Bento Gonçalves (RS) com ele. Arlindo Pereira escreveu: Isso é verdade. O Claudomiro me emprestou o Garmin eTrex Vista HCx e eu estou apaixonado! :D Quero ver se consigo que algum amigo traga de fora pra

Re: [Talk-br] Importação IBGE - Municípios de SC

2009-10-21 Thread Flavio Bello Fialho
Os dados do IBGE são uma boa fonte de informação, mas não são perfeitos. As estradas estão fora de lugar e alguns limites de municípios que seguem rios estão visivelmente incorretos. Devemos usar o IBGE como base, mas se pudermos corrigir os dados para melhorá-los, devemos fazê-lo. André

Re: [Talk-br] Importação IBGE - Municípios de SC

2009-10-21 Thread Junior, Claudomiro
Claro, Essas cartas digitais que eles diponibilizaram chegam a ter erro de mais de 1000 metros, enquanto que conseguimos uma precisão de 10 a 20 metros com GPS ou menos de 100 metros com a imagem de satelite default (LANDSAT) []s -Original Message- From:

Re: [Talk-br] Importação IBGE - Municípios de SC

2009-10-21 Thread Arlindo Pereira
A única forma perfeita de se definir essas fronteiras é achando a lei que define o contorno delas (sejam fronteiras de bairro, distrito, município, estado ou país). Por exemplo (ignorem o mapa em Flash): http://www2.rio.rj.gov.br/smu/caderno_novo/site%20catete/delimitacao.htm []s 2009/10/21

[Talk-br] APRESENTAÇÃO

2009-10-21 Thread Reginaldo Nazar
Meu nome é Reginaldo Nazar Sou de Curitiba e pretendo ajudar vocês. e a mim também... Algumas pergunta 1 - tracksouce alguem já conseguiu negociar a base deles ? 2 - Google maps pode ser usado ? 3 - Como importar dados ao OSM ? Obrigado ___ Talk-br

Re: [Talk-br] APRESENTAÇÃO

2009-10-21 Thread Rodrigo de Avila
Vitor George escreveu: o que acham de iniciarmos um projeto de distribuição de arquivos de mapas? agora que estamos com a importarção de fronteiras em fase de implantação, podemos gerar um script de mapas para garmin e outros. aí a gente coloca no mapaslivres.org http://mapaslivres.org pra

Re: [Talk-de] Garmin Installer (war: OSM Mentoren hier?)

2009-10-21 Thread Carsten Schwede
Hi, Johann H. Addicks schrieb: Ich kanns nur für die Outdoor-Geräte beurteilen: Wenn man die Karten im Mapsource hat, dann reicht das. Von da aus geht's dann schon mit der Garmin-Software weiter. Wie wäre es mit beiden Varianten im Installer? Also direkt aufs GPS-Gerät und auch in Mapsource

Re: [Talk-de] Garmin Installer (war: OSM Mentoren hier?)

2009-10-21 Thread Carsten Schwede
Hi, Ulf Lamping schrieb: Zumindest bei den günstigeren Auto Navis ist MapSource definitiv nicht dabei. Wenn ich mich recht erinnere, bei den günstigen Outdoor Geräten auch nicht. z.B. beim günstigen Oregon ist Mapsource nicht dabei. Ich denke, dass Garmin im Moment auf dem Weg ist Mapsource

[Talk-de] Wanderwege-Overlay jetzt weltweit verf ügbar

2009-10-21 Thread Sarah Hoffmann
Hallo, wie einige vielleicht mitbekommen haben, stelle ich eine Karte mit Wanderwegen der Schweiz zur Verfügung. Nach einigem Umbau des Renderings ist diese Karte ab sofort weltweit verfügbar: http://osm.lonvia.de/world_hiking.html Das Ganze ist noch etwas experimentell, am Stil kann und wird

Re: [Talk-de] Pfoten weg von unseren Daten

2009-10-21 Thread Wolfgang
Hallo, Am Mittwoch 21 Oktober 2009 02:29:16 schrieb Florian Gross: Und das soll bei einem googlemail- Account gehen? Ohne richterlichen Beschluß usw? Die fragen nach Name, Vorname und das wars eigentlich. wie gesagt, wie das Nummernschild am Auto. Nicht wirklich anonym. Den Namen des

Re: [Talk-de] Garmin Installer (war: OSM Mentoren hier?)

2009-10-21 Thread Wolfgang
Hallo, Am Mittwoch 21 Oktober 2009 01:53:29 schrieb Johann H. Addicks: Ich kanns nur für die Outdoor-Geräte beurteilen: Wenn man die Karten im Mapsource hat, dann reicht das. Von da aus geht's dann schon mit der Garmin-Software weiter. Wobei mich jetzt gern die Linux-Desktopler schlagen

[Talk-de] Routing

2009-10-21 Thread qbert biker
Hallo, ich fang nochmal neu an, aber es sei kurz angemerkt, dass sich der Beitrag auch auf den Thread oben (Gratulation) bezieht. Es wurde nach einer knackigen Erklaerung gesucht, was am Routing mit OSM problematisch ist und ich versuch mich mal dran zu erklaeren, was andere meiner Ansicht nach

[Talk-de] Software Architekt /Analyst openstreetmap

2009-10-21 Thread Gehling Marc
Hallo, zur info. http://www.projektwerk.de/projekt/PA-42627/software_architekt_analyst.html Für einen unseren Kunden suchen wir einen fähigen Software Architekten /Analysten (m/w). Aufgaben: - Evalierung der Möglichkeiten mit Daten aus OpenStreetMap unternehmenspezifische Applikationen

Re: [Talk-de] Gratulation!

2009-10-21 Thread Bernd Wurst
Hallo. Am Mittwoch, 21. Oktober 2009 schrieb Garry: Das funktioniert vorerst nicht, das Routing muss in erster Linie alleine mit dem highway-tag funktionieren da esdass einzig durchgägngige tag ist. Oder wie willst Du eine Strasse von der Du nur den Besitzerkennst mit einer vergleichen von

Re: [Talk-de] Routing

2009-10-21 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:51:59 +0200, qbert biker qbe...@gmx.de wrote: Also versuch ich mal in Muenchen zu routen. Bis vor kurzem waren die kreuzungsfreien mehrspurigen Bereiche des Mittleren Rings als Trunk eingetragen, dann wieder als primary. Wenn ich trunk auch nur ansatzweise auswerte,

Re: [Talk-de] Routing

2009-10-21 Thread Wolfgang
Hallo, Am Mittwoch 21 Oktober 2009 09:51:59 schrieb qbert biker: Na ja, wenn die Klasse unzuverlaessig ist, dann brauch ich eben eine Rueckfallebene - was nehmen? Ampeln vielleicht oder die Spuranzahl? Spuren werden nicht visualisiert, also ein Tool schreiben, das die anzeigt, hinfahren und

Re: [Talk-de] Routing

2009-10-21 Thread qbert biker
Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 10:03:50 +0200 Von: marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com An: Openstreetmap allgemeines in Deutsch talk-de@openstreetmap.org Betreff: Re: [Talk-de] Routing Was meinst su mit auch nur ansatzweise auswerte? Es ist eine für dein Fahrzeug

Re: [Talk-de] Routing

2009-10-21 Thread qbert biker
Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 10:09:21 +0200 Von: Wolfgang o...@kahl-hinsch.de An: talk-de@openstreetmap.org Betreff: Re: [Talk-de] Routing Spuren und mehr sind problemlos sichtbar und editierbar mit merkaartor. Eine kleine Erweiterung schreiben

Re: [Talk-de] Gratulation!

2009-10-21 Thread qbert biker
Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 10:03:26 +0200 Von: Bernd Wurst be...@bwurst.org An: talk-de@openstreetmap.org Betreff: Re: [Talk-de] Gratulation! Das ist eine fadenscheinige Argumentation! Du stellst dich hier hin und stampfst so lange mit dem Fuß bis alle

Re: [Talk-de] Gratulation!

2009-10-21 Thread Bernd Wurst
Hallo. Am Mittwoch, 21. Oktober 2009 schrieb qbert biker: Das ist eine fadenscheinige Argumentation! Du stellst dich hier hin und stampfst so lange mit dem Fuß bis alle highway-Tags scharf definiert und dann auch noch korrekt vergeben sind? Na dann. Man kann ja auch klein anfangen und

Re: [Talk-de] Routing

2009-10-21 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 10:19:51 +0200, qbert biker qbe...@gmx.de wrote: Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 10:03:50 +0200 Von: marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com An: Openstreetmap allgemeines in Deutsch talk-de@openstreetmap.org Betreff: Re: [Talk-de] Routing Was meinst

Re: [Talk-de] Routing

2009-10-21 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 10:39:45 +0200, qbert biker qbe...@gmx.de wrote: Aber es bleibt als Kernproblem, dass der Entwickler des Routingalgos i.A. das nicht leisten kann, denn er ist weder vor Ort, noch hat er die Kapazitaet, das in der Flaeche zu pruefen. Und es ist fuer ihn nicht erkennbar, ob

Re: [Talk-de] Garmin Installer (war: OSM Mentoren hier?)

2009-10-21 Thread Ulf Lamping
Carsten Schwede schrieb: Hi, Ulf Lamping schrieb: Zumindest bei den günstigeren Auto Navis ist MapSource definitiv nicht dabei. Wenn ich mich recht erinnere, bei den günstigen Outdoor Geräten auch nicht. z.B. beim günstigen Oregon ist Mapsource nicht dabei. Ich denke, dass Garmin im

Re: [Talk-de] Gratulation!

2009-10-21 Thread qbert biker
Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:20:30 +0200 Von: Bernd Wurst be...@bwurst.org An: Openstreetmap allgemeines in Deutsch talk-de@openstreetmap.org Betreff: Re: [Talk-de] Gratulation! Hallo. Nein, du kannst jetzt nicht mehr die highway-Klassen *umdefinieren*

Re: [Talk-de] Gratulation!

2009-10-21 Thread Bernd Wurst
Hallo. Am Mittwoch, 21. Oktober 2009 schrieb qbert biker: Ich habe hier im Thread irgendwo einen einfachen Entwurf reingesetzt, Kurzfassung: Kreuzungsfreier Ausbau, Spuren, Breite, Kurvenradien, Mittelstreifen, Belag, Fussweg. Ich will keine Prosa, ich will Tags mit Bildern und genauen

Re: [Talk-de] Wanderwege-Overlay jetzt weltweit verfüg bar

2009-10-21 Thread Adiac
Am Mittwoch 21 Oktober 2009 08:48:54 schrieb Sarah Hoffmann: Hallo, Hallo Sarah, http://osm.lonvia.de/world_hiking.html Schick. Wunschliste (okay, -Punkt :-) ): - Wanderwege in Liste anklickbar Ich sehe zwar dass da was ist, kann aber nichts damit tun. Ich habe da auch einen Wanderweg, der

Re: [Talk-de] Wanderwege-Overlay jetzt weltweit verfüg bar

2009-10-21 Thread Adiac
Kommando zurück, habe gerade http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wanderwege gefunden. Da les’ ich mich erstmal ein. MfG ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] Gratulation!

2009-10-21 Thread Ulf Lamping
qbert biker schrieb: Das würde passieren, wir sind ein Crowdsourcing-Projekt. Das runterbeten von diesen Begriffen ist auch wenig mehr als heisse Luft. Nein, genau *das* ist der Unterschied zwischen: ich muß den Leuten zeigen wo man was besser machen kann und zwar so, daß sie es auch

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