Re: [OSM-talk] recommendation for JSON to CSV converter

2024-02-28 Thread Dave F via talk
You don't say what you want to output to but I use the command line program ogr2ogr (you will need to install all GDAL, I believe - https://gdal.org/index.html). Example to convert to CSV: ogr2ogr.exe -f csv output.csv input.geojson -lco GEOMETRY=AS_XY You may have to adjust the GEOMETRY

Re: [OSM-talk] Help with reverting a changeset (somebody deleted weeks and weeks of work)

2023-04-09 Thread Dave F via talk
There /may/ be a way using josm's revert changeset. Load the changeset using the revert changeset tool. Use filters to select only the required data (start with layer<0). When you have only the objects you require, select them. Then go to the revert changeset dialog again & select the 'revet

Re: [OSM-talk] Talk-GB Digest, Vol 197, Issue 27

2023-04-03 Thread Dave F via talk
Could admin transfer this to Talk-GB please. DaveF On 27/03/2023 13:51, Ragone, Olivia via talk wrote: Thank you for providing feedback on some of the edits made by National Trust staff as part of our organised editing activity, on the representation of paths. We’d like to apologise that it

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed automatic replacements of multiple surface=* and shop=* values (review welcomed!)

2023-02-27 Thread Dave F via talk
On 25/02/2023 21:44, Andy Mabbett wrote: shop = watch → shop = watches This could plausibly mean watch as in "monitor" - in other words "please watch for developments". No it can't. DaveF___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

[OSM-talk] Dubious websites added to tourist attractions?

2023-02-02 Thread Dave F via talk
Hi You may wish to take a look at these changesets by a single contributor to decide if  you think these are  dubious websites added to tourist attractions. https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Aliaksandr%20Kopyshau/history#map=1/37/3 The one in my locale had poor spelling (translation to

Re: [OSM-talk] Should we be mapping transformers and powerlines?

2023-01-20 Thread Dave F via talk
On 19/01/2023 10:00, Marc_marc wrote: it's funny to find here and in different proposals this justification I find it fanciful You don't find tall structures, viewable from miles around useful markers while out & about? How strange. DaveF ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Should we be mapping transformers and powerlines?

2023-01-19 Thread Dave F via talk
On 19/01/2023 03:03, john whelan wrote: Should we have a process that says some things should not be mapped? No. Next question? DaveF ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] FYI: Board now requires imports list (in)compatibility with OSM CT (& will work on a template)

2022-11-29 Thread Dave F via talk
Sorry, but I'm unclear what that detailed story has to do with my point? DaveF On 29/11/2022 16:54, John Whelan wrote: The story of the Ottawa bus stops... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] FYI: Board now requires imports list (in)compatibility with OSM CT (& will work on a template)

2022-11-29 Thread Dave F via talk
On 28/11/2022 23:48, Tobias Knerr wrote: we would like to offer data donors a standard legal text that they can use to make their data available to OSM in such a way that we would expect it to survive a hypothetical license change. I'm confused. If a maintainer of a database wishes to change

Re: [OSM-talk] Rent-a-crowd needed JOSM Microsoft store

2022-11-27 Thread Dave F via talk
Link(s)? On 30/10/2022 18:47, john whelan wrote: There are two versions of JOSM available on the Microsoft store.  One is a fork and costs money the other is the kosher version. It might be helpful if JOSM had a few reviews to make it stand out from the other version. Thanks John

Re: [OSM-talk] QA tool for finding nameless highways that are armchair-fixable

2022-11-27 Thread Dave F via talk
Most roads don't have names. Any comparison has to be done against an authoritative database or on ground surveying, for the area in which you're searching. "where the name can be interpolated from neighbouring ways. This allows to detect and armchair-fix a (small) subset of these cases with

Re: [OSM-talk] razed railways and other things that don't exist today

2022-10-25 Thread Dave F via talk
On 25/10/2022 08:42, Warin wrote: If OSM is about mapping what exists today .. why have the tags that mean there is nothing left of it? The main OSM website/database shouldn't. it is for *current* data. "OpenStreetMap is a place for mapping things that are both /real and current/"

Re: [Talk-transit] [Talk-GB] Mapping train services in Great Britain

2021-06-01 Thread Dave F via Talk-transit
On 01/06/2021 19:37, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: Why bother with OSM at all then? Just look at a Ordnance Survey map and use your sentience to find what you're looking for. OSM is free. OSM is not a database sink. DaveF ___ Talk-transit mailing

Re: [Talk-transit] [Talk-GB] Mapping train services in Great Britain

2021-06-01 Thread Dave F via Talk-transit
On 01/06/2021 18:32, Philip Barnes wrote: On Tue, 2021-06-01 at 13:07 -0400, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: On Tue, Jun 1, 2021, 12:38 Dave F via Talk-transit < talk-transit@openstreetmap.org> wrote: On 01/06/2021 16:11, Christopher Parker wrote: On 6/1/2021 10:54 AM, Dave F via Talk-transit

Re: [Talk-transit] [Talk-GB] Mapping train services in Great Britain

2021-06-01 Thread Dave F via Talk-transit
On 01/06/2021 18:07, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: On Tue, Jun 1, 2021, 12:38 Dave F via Talk-transit <mailto:talk-transit@openstreetmap.org>> wrote: On 01/06/2021 16:11, Christopher Parker wrote: > > On 6/1/2021 10:54 AM, Dave F via Talk-transit wrote:

Re: [Talk-transit] [Talk-GB] Mapping train services in Great Britain

2021-06-01 Thread Dave F via Talk-transit
ut route relations, OSM shows where you can get on the train/vehicle, but not where you can go On Tue, Jun 1, 2021, 10:58 Dave F via Talk-transit <mailto:talk-transit@openstreetmap.org>> wrote: What's wrong with consulting a timetable? Maps show you where you can go, timetab

Re: [Talk-transit] [Talk-GB] Mapping train services in Great Britain

2021-06-01 Thread Dave F via Talk-transit
What's wrong with consulting a timetable? Maps show you where you can go, timetables tell you when . DaveF On 01/06/2021 01:18, Michael Tsang wrote: > I think you are missing the point that GB is not a city. > Cities are densly pack and urban transport systems reflect this. In London tube

Re: [Talk-transit] [Talk-GB] Mapping train services in Great Britain

2021-06-01 Thread Dave F via Talk-transit
For the last few years I've added/deleted & maintained Britain's railway stations. All National Rail stations (currently 2571) have the Station's 3 digit CRS code (ref:crs=*). This is the public facing code which allows routing developers to link to NR webpages which provide more *accurate*

Re: [Talk-transit] [Talk-GB] Mapping train services in Great Britain

2021-06-01 Thread Dave F via Talk-transit
As others have said, this data doesn't really belong in OSM. It's too transient, too complicated to maintain. GB timetables are officially updated every 6 months, but services vary on an ad-hoc basis. This previous year being a good example. How detailed would your system be? Would you adjust

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of shared use paths

2020-12-10 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
That's weird. Save for some tactile paving what's the difference between North & South? DaveF On 10/12/2020 14:08, Tony Shield wrote: /Are there any public cycleways from which pedestrians are actually banned? / Unfortunately yes - https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/827379295 Quite clear

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging of shared use paths

2020-12-10 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
I believe you're incorrect. Cycleways can be shared use with pedestrians, & almost always are in the UK. Cycleway/footway/path tags are not based on usage figures. Cycleway allows for two modes of transport, footway allows one.  Likewise 'bridleway' allows for three modes -

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway across field

2020-12-08 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
On 08/12/2020 12:36, nathan case wrote: but instead setting as disused:highway. This is what I tend to do when the PROW route is clearly inaccessible from aerial imagery (e.g. due to new buildings, or rivers). IMO, this is bad mapping. Just because one person concludes it isn't used by

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway across field

2020-12-08 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
On 08/12/2020 12:42, Mark Lee via Talk-GB wrote: Ah sorry, I shall remove it then Robert. I have drawn it freehand based on what I'd seen on their site as a right of way. Presumably then, if there's no established path, I can never add it to OSM because the definitive map is my only source for

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway across field

2020-12-08 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
lines drawn on top of Copyrighted Ordnance Survey base-maps, which means they're off-limits for use in OSM. Do you have evidence of this being the case? Has someone from OS (or anyone outside OSM) stated that? Dave F ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk

Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway across field

2020-12-08 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
move it in this case. Both bicycle & walking on a bridleway are designated. The surface tag is a useful addition for paths. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:surface Dave F ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstree

Re: [Talk-GB] electric fences

2020-11-23 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
Some of the properly installed versions I've tagged as gates - The electricity passes through a bungy cable & is connected with a metal hook at one end which is encased in a rubber handle allowing the walker to unhook it & pass through. I usually only map the ones where I know, or it looks

Re: [Talk-GB] Footways bikes can go on

2020-11-21 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
On 21/11/2020 18:35, Edward Bainton wrote: Thanks all for these ideas. The path is marked as shared, but only in the middle of the park

Re: [Talk-GB] Footways bikes can go on

2020-11-21 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
HI There's a misconception that highway=cycleway implies an automatic authority over other path users. This is untrue It's just a hierarchy of the number of different transport modes permitted to use it. Similarly, highway=residential permits motor vehicles as well as bicycles &

Re: [Talk-GB] featdesc & featcode

2020-11-19 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
On 19/11/2020 20:57, Brian Prangle wrote: Dump for external databases? Surely not! FHRS? Well that's why I've been trying to clean up FHRS tags. The only tag that should really exist is the ID code which refers /back/ to the external database. UPRN? USRN? I'm struggling to see the

Re: [Talk-GB] featdesc & featcode

2020-11-19 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
yone with valid reasons for not removing these tags? DaveF On 19/11/2020 16:49, Martin Wynne wrote: On 19/11/2020 16:24, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: > > Anybody know what featdesc & featcode refer to? Local authority > references? Hi Dave, Sorry about poor formatting, cop

[Talk-GB] featdesc & featcode

2020-11-19 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
Hi https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/10kw Anybody know what featdesc & featcode refer to? Local authority references? Appears to be only rivers & woods.These are the only examples in the UK The contributor who added them hasn't responded. DaveF ___

Re: [Talk-GB] Service road with private locked gate and routing apps

2020-11-16 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
I wouldn't have mapped that as any kind of road at all. From aerial imagery the west end is blocked by a container & vegetation suggests it's not been used for years. On 16/11/2020 11:18, Mat Attlee wrote: There is a service road in Homerton that I noticed several different routing apps

Re: [Talk-GB] Q4 2020 Quarterly Project: Defibrillators

2020-11-14 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
On 14/11/2020 12:39, Donald Noble wrote: Firstly, I have seen a few buildings that have an AED pictogram sign outside, suggesting that there is a defibrillator inside. Is this considered sufficient 'on the ground' evidence to add to the map. I'd say yes. Add access &/or note tag to clarify

Re: [Talk-GB] High quality NLS imagery of buildings and HOUSENUMBERS (!) available in London (and Scotland). Create a tasking manger to add this?

2020-10-30 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
On 30/10/2020 15:28, ipswichmapper--- via Talk-GB wrote: Hello, It has come to my attention that the "Town Plan" map from 1944-1967 in NLS is available freely. Link to this on NLS? DaveF ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] id Editor auto-converts split polygons into MP relation

2020-10-30 Thread Dave F via talk
On 29/10/2020 06:41, Simon Poole wrote: Am 29.10.2020 um 00:17 schrieb Dave F: iD editor attracts a hell of a lot of "WTFs", doesn't it? I mean, even its most ardent fan must occasionally raise a Roger Moore eyebrow. bhuousel has taken the presumptive decision that the contributor'

Re: [OSM-talk] id Editor auto-converts split polygons into MP relation

2020-10-28 Thread Dave F via talk
On 27/10/2020 03:56, Bryce Cogswell wrote: I agree it’s a little counterintuitive for experienced users but I understand the rationale: If you’re splitting a building (closed way) how is the result valid unless it’s converted to a multipolygon? The editor is presuming the splitting of the

Re: [OSM-talk] id Editor auto-converts split polygons into MP relation

2020-10-28 Thread Dave F via talk
finished with it and you could simplify, particularly when you are trying to get the user to save often and early. So the simplification for the iD user comes at the expense of wtf's of everybody else. Simon Am 27.10.2020 um 02:05 schrieb Dave F via talk: Hi I don't use iD editor much,

[OSM-talk] id Editor auto-converts split polygons into MP relation

2020-10-26 Thread Dave F via talk
Hi I don't use iD editor much, but I've just discovered it auto-converts closed polygons which are split (Shortcut Key = X) into MP relations. I'm struggling to comprehend a logical reason for this. Is there one? If there's been a previous discussion which I've missed please post a link.

Re: [Talk-transit] bus=yes opinion

2020-10-19 Thread Dave F via Talk-transit
public_transport=platform and  highway=bus_stop are different schemas. Please don't confuse the two. When mapping using the much more prevalent highway=bus_stop there is no requirement for bus=* as it's obviously explicit. DaveF On 11/07/2020 06:33, Agustin Rissoli wrote: What are your

Re: [OSM-talk] Idea for improving mapping system

2020-10-18 Thread Dave F via talk
All the OSM 'leaderboard' sites I've seen are based on quantity. OSM needs more quality mappers. There's a page which tabled the number of changesets created by individual contributors per day/week/month. I believe this led to a few anal retentives quickly creating one changeset for every

Re: [Talk-GB] Turn Restrictions at roundabouts

2020-10-03 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
About the only change I've made in years of mapping 'non-mini' roundabouts is to split the oneway=yes flare 'V' into two segments. JOSM validation started flagging the junction node of the V as too tight a bend, which I suppose makes sense. This is a good example of how routing is

Re: [Talk-GB] Turn Restrictions at roundabouts

2020-10-03 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
There is a lot of garbage in OSM due to those creating routers being too lazy to write a few lines of code, or even use common sense. However, in this case I believe it's other contributors who think, for reasons that escape me, routers require it. Routing software must be of a poor standard

Re: [Talk-GB] Blocked / overgrown / inaccessible footpaths and bridleways

2020-09-29 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
All The most important thing to do in situations like this is to contact the LA responsible & ask them to clear it. As I said on the preceding discussion of this topic in Talk, many of these descriptions are subjective. What you or I may consider completely impassible, others could be

Re: [Talk-GB] Hello world and automated change proposal: Add missing URL scheme on UK's Pubs websites

2020-09-28 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
On 28/09/2020 17:53, Dan S wrote: Hi Rodrigo I think Loomio is designed for the purpose of making good decisions together: Come again? Why do you think "good decisions" can't be made here? What do those who don't wish to join yet another off-shoot do? DaveF

Re: [Talk-GB] Hello world and automated change proposal: Add missing URL scheme on UK's Pubs websites

2020-09-28 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
On 28/09/2020 15:29, Rodrigo Díez Villamuera wrote: Thanks all of you for your messages. As a new joiner, I could not ask for more than other members engaging in such a passionate way :) It's fair to say that there is no clear consensus of whether the proposal, in its current form, is

Re: [Talk-GB] Hello world and automated change proposal: Add missing URL scheme on UK's Pubs websites

2020-09-28 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
Three things to note: SO3166-1=GB is misnomered & includes Northern Ireland. (As I found out, some contributors there get annoyed with UK wide edits). You may want to use area(id:3600058447,3600058437,3600058446); // England Wales Scotland instead. Many pubs are mapped as ways/relations so

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging an abandoned path?

2020-09-28 Thread Dave F via talk
On 25/09/2020 17:53, Andy Townsend wrote: On 25/09/2020 17:43, Dave F via talk wrote: Nick's description is "overgrown, unclear, prone to flooding" These are all subjective interpretations. There are many official PROW's in those conditions. (for the benefit of people outside

Re: [Talk-GB] Hello world and automated change proposal: Add missing URL scheme on UK's Pubs websites

2020-09-28 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
On 28/09/2020 10:56, Philip Barnes wrote: On Mon, 2020-09-28 at 10:10 +0100, Mark Goodge wrote: On 28/09/2020 10:00, Frederik Ramm wrote: Remember: OSM is not an IT project. Indeed not. But this is also a good example of the truism that OSM is not a map, it's a database. Having the right

Re: [Talk-GB] Hello world and automated change proposal: Add missing URL scheme on UK's Pubs websites

2020-09-28 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
On 28/09/2020 10:00, Frederik Ramm wrote: Rodrigo, On 27.09.20 17:28, Rodrigo Díez Villamuera wrote: After some time using OSM as a user, I decided to make my first step as a contributor, hence this email and the proposal inside. If your first idea of "how to contribute to OSM" is "how to

Re: [Talk-GB] Hello world and automated change proposal: Add missing URL scheme on UK's Pubs websites

2020-09-28 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
On 27/09/2020 19:35, Andrew Hain wrote: Keep Right flags web links that have gone offline. Unfortunately it doesn't really do that. After a discussion with the developer I found out it tests whether a server in central Europe has a link to the UK URLs not if the actual link is current. I was

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging an abandoned path?

2020-09-25 Thread Dave F via talk
Nick's description is "overgrown, unclear, prone to flooding" These are all subjective interpretations. There are many official PROW's in those conditions. It doesn't mean they're "abandoned" or "disused". It doesn't mean someone isn't prepared to wade or hack their way through. Accurate

Re: [OSM-talk] "Limitations on mapping private information" - wiki page

2020-09-16 Thread Dave F via talk
The first two bullet points are poorly worded: building=house is "where individual people live". "There is no need to split residential landuse into individual plots." if that means the actual tag landuse=residential, then I'd probably agree, but there is nothing wrong with this level of

Re: [Talk-GB] Pedestrian priority and highway=cycleway

2020-09-03 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
I think highway should be reverted to cycleway. There's a misunderstanding that highway=cycleway implies priority to bicycle riders, when it actually relates just to the number of transport modes which can use it. Bridleway equates to three modes: walkers, bikes & horses. DaveF On 03/09/2020

Re: [Talk-GB] How closely do we map lamp posts?

2020-09-02 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
I already answered your last point. Good to see the give way is against the motor vehicles. On 02/09/2020 22:37, Lester Caine wrote: On 02/09/2020 19:00, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: I don't know the area. but they look like the existing posts to me. Has the cycle path been realigned around them

Re: [Talk-GB] How closely do we map lamp posts?

2020-09-02 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
I don't know the area. but they look like the existing posts to me. Has the cycle path been realigned around them to provide better vision splays/ stopping room to motorists?

Re: [Talk-GB] New Forest Panorama Mapping Party - September 13th 11.00

2020-08-23 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
If your wishing to socially distance, Sunday lunchtime/afternoon seems a strange time to do it. On 23/08/2020 13:43, Nick Whitelegg wrote: Hello everyone, Some of you are aware of this, but we (David Greenwood of TrekView and myself) are organising a Panorama Mapping Party on September 13th

Re: [OSM-talk] Roadmap for deprecation of name tags in OSM

2020-08-20 Thread Dave F via talk
Just caught up with this thread, & I'm unsure if it's a joke. If there are any problems/disagreements with names in OSM then surely the same problem occurs in Wikiland? DaveF. On 09/08/2020 09:25, pangoSE wrote: I suggest we create a roadmap for deprecating of storing and updating names in

Re: [Talk-GB] Eat out to help out data

2020-08-20 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
Too transient/inaccurate for me, personally. Even my local LA can't publish an accurate list. Anyway, I'm too busy mapping garden fences in the hope of upsetting sensibilities. DaveF On 19/08/2020 21:10, Rob Nickerson wrote: Hi all, Anyone considered using the Eat out to Help out data

Re: [Talk-GB] National Cycle Network removal/reclassification

2020-08-13 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
On 13/08/2020 15:41, Simon Still wrote: So my understanding is that OSM normally only maps what’s actually on the ground rather than what might be shown on a map (and there was some discussion recently about this - https://www.mail-archive.com/talk-gb@openstreetmap.org/msg19303.html) This

Re: [Talk-GB] Street-name toids

2020-08-12 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
What is it? On 12/08/2020 16:54, SK53 wrote: OpenRoads from the Ordnance Survey contains a field containing the toid for the street name. I wonder if we should include these alongside usrn & uprn. They may be more useful than either for gathering complex roads which share a name.

Re: [OSM-talk] Status of Who Did It?

2020-07-27 Thread Dave F via talk
Try this (using your user name) https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/WvG [bbox:{{bbox}}]; (  nw(newer:"{{date:1Day}}"); -  nw(user:UserName); ); out meta geom({{bbox}}); It highlights individual entities instead of vague boxes. Change nw to nwr to return relations & change the date to return older

Re: [OSM-talk] Removing all signposts from relations

2020-07-25 Thread Dave F via talk
Where was the discussion. Do you have a link? I think the relation of the 'route' should be purely the ways & if there's an actual requirement*, the signs should be included as a part of a super relation https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Super-Relation * Is there a requirement? Doesn't the

Re: [Talk-GB] Electric vehicle charging points

2020-07-21 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
On 21/07/2020 17:30, Mark Goodge wrote: On 21/07/2020 16:57, Kai Michael Poppe - OSM wrote: Is the National Chargepoint Registry data open for OSM now? If not somebody should write a nice enough letter? It is open, it's OGL now. But it's not reliable enough for an unfiltered bulk import;

Re: [Talk-GB] Electric vehicle charging points

2020-07-21 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
On 21/07/2020 12:10, Chris Hill wrote: Leccy car drivers need to know if the point is working. Apps from the charge point suppliers and from others such as Zapmap try to keep drivers informed about the availability and condition of the point. OSM doesn't have that info and can't update it in

Re: [Talk-GB] Electric vehicle charging points

2020-07-21 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
1538 nationwide. Use this to see what other tags contributors are adding. https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Wia DaveF On 21/07/2020 11:58, Mark Goodge wrote: Do we map electric vehicle charging points? If not, should we? None of the ones in my town are on OSM, at the moment. I could add them,

Re: [Talk-transit] bus stop name

2020-07-16 Thread Dave F via Talk-transit
The whole point of route relations is to allow multiple routes to be added to an individual object. On 17/07/2020 02:15, 80hnhtv4agou--- via Talk-transit wrote:     In the USA bus stops (flag stops) are located for the most part at named intersections, that is at where the street sign is.    

Re: [Talk-GB] POI files of Pub/Restaurant chain

2020-07-16 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
Hi Did you obtain them from their website? If so, could you post the link? What's the content? Just location co-ordinates? DaveF On 15/07/2020 14:00, o...@poppe.dev wrote: Hey all, I just accidentally found that the Pub next to "curious 20602512" is operated by a chain with quite a few

Re: [Talk-GB] JOSM Plugin for the FHRS API

2020-06-26 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
I'm getting this after selecting the Search Entry option: https://snipboard.io/7J6Eb0.jpg Latest JOSM version Any ideas? On 26/06/2020 10:45, o...@poppe.dev wrote: Hey Tony, as I'm from the other side of the Channel, I doubt that there's someone from the UK community that knows me well

Re: [Talk-GB] JOSM Plugin for the FHRS API

2020-06-26 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
As the OSM entity has to already contain the FHRS:ID tag it limits the usefulness of this plugin. Won't most have address data added when contributors initially add the FHRS tag? I certainly do. What would be useful is a way to search the LA's database for retailers which don't have a FHRS

Re: [OSM-talk] river - stream

2020-06-13 Thread Dave F via talk
June 5, 2020 8:43 AM -05:00 from Dave F via talk : On 05/06/2020 13:45, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote: > > when the river stream comes to the bridge can you split and add tunnel ? There can't be both a tunnel and bridge. It's one or the other. This goes for

Re: [OSM-talk] Could/should editors detect/disallow huge changeset bboxes?

2020-06-12 Thread Dave F via talk
On 12/06/2020 15:32, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote: I am confused, are you telling me being in chicago, where i can go to the place i am editing, not relying on satellite view which is behind by at least 7 month or more here, i should be messing around in London. If you have information

Re: [OSM-talk] Could/should editors detect/disallow huge changeset bboxes?

2020-06-12 Thread Dave F via talk
On 12/06/2020 23:00, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote: Friday, June 12, 2020 10:20 AM -05:00 from James : No they shouldn't, mapping roads in northern Canada, your bbox can become quite large quickly as mapping logging roads/dirt roads is quick and easy, but span over

Re: [OSM-talk] Could/should editors detect/disallow huge changeset bboxes?

2020-06-12 Thread Dave F via talk
On 12/06/2020 14:44, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 12.06.20 15:22, Dave F via talk wrote: There is a lot of negativity about large changsets, but assessment of them should be based on quality, not quantity. Yes, we're not discussing a popup that says "You dumbass, why did you create a

Re: [OSM-talk] Could/should editors detect/disallow huge changeset bboxes?

2020-06-12 Thread Dave F via talk
Yes please - I am using Osmcha to look at changesets around me and i have a high number of changesets which span half Europe and thus intersect with the area i am looking at. Changeset envelopes which span more than 100s of km² are broken. In which case, isn't it really OSMCha which is

Re: [OSM-talk] Could/should editors detect/disallow huge changeset bboxes?

2020-06-12 Thread Dave F via talk
On 12/06/2020 12:00, Frederik Ramm wrote: and very rarely intentional. Point 1: This is what's always confused me. I occasionally look into world wide changeset & it's often one spurious object in another continent, which the contributor can't explain. I'm unsure if it's one specific

Re: [OSM-talk] river - stream

2020-06-08 Thread Dave F via talk
On 08/06/2020 18:12, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 8. Jun 2020, at 16:15, Dave F wrote:  Good Lord! That has both tunnel & bridge tags on the same object! This is not what is being discussed here. it’s in the secondary thread that you started here ;-) No Ma

Re: [OSM-talk] river - stream

2020-06-08 Thread Dave F via talk
ing, with the suggestion add a bridge or tunnel. Monday, June 8, 2020 5:13 AM -05:00 from Martin Koppenhoefer : Am Sa., 6. Juni 2020 um 18:02 Uhr schrieb Dave F via talk http://e.mail.ru/compose/?mai

Re: [OSM-talk] river - stream

2020-06-08 Thread Dave F via talk
Good Lord! That has both tunnel & bridge tags on the same object! This is not what is being discussed here. DaveF On 08/06/2020 11:10, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am Sa., 6. Juni 2020 um 18:02 Uhr schrieb Dave F via talk mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org>>: Do you have an example?

Re: [OSM-talk] VANDALISM !

2020-06-07 Thread Dave F via talk
Provide a link to the changeset. DaveF On 07/06/2020 14:07, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote:   IF someone, not local, relying on satellite views, goes after my good faith edit, based on my on the ground surveillance thinks my edit was wrong trying to fix broken polygon’s,  that are making

Re: [OSM-talk] river - stream

2020-06-06 Thread Dave F via talk
from a phone On 5. Jun 2020, at 15:44, Dave F via talk wrote: There can't be both a tunnel and bridge. It's one or the other. This goes for all scenarios, including roads. you can have both, but it is rare... and it depends on your definitions of course (e.g. you might call it an enclosed

Re: [OSM-talk] river - stream

2020-06-05 Thread Dave F via talk
On 05/06/2020 13:45, 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk wrote: when the river stream comes to the bridge can you split and add tunnel ? There can't be both a tunnel and bridge. It's one or the other. This goes for all scenarios, including roads. DaveF

Re: [OSM-talk] CyclOSM Lite a new cycling infrastructure map layer

2020-05-26 Thread Dave F via talk
On 26/05/2020 09:19, Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote: sorry, my fault, it is bicycle_road=yes in addition to highway=* (usually residential) and it isn't a cycleway as it is a regular road that is either blocked for most motor vehicles, Then that's a cycleway. Irrelevant of construction (width,

Re: [OSM-talk] Examples at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access

2020-05-24 Thread Dave F via talk
As you done it over (far too) many edits, could you provide a comparison list of amendments here. DaveF. On 24/05/2020 11:10, Mateusz Konieczny via talk wrote: I just added some example at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access and improved existing one. Review, and improving edits

Re: [Talk-transit] Making bus lines more specific

2020-04-28 Thread Dave F via Talk-transit
On 28/04/2020 08:45, Robin Däneke wrote: Hello everybody, I have lately been thinking about somehow reworking (or giving a new push to) the current p_t:v2 scheme. Especially for the fact, that, since it was first proposed and accepted, not a lot has changed in which tags are rendered, how

Re: [Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

2020-04-16 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
Are you sure it's upto date?: Page last reviewed: 15 December 2016 Next review due: 15 December 2019 The 'GPs' is corrupted with Chines symbols. On 16/04/2020 17:18, Mike Baggaley wrote: The data at https://data.gov.uk/dataset/e373eb6a-fffd-48e5-b306-71eb17f97af2/pharmacies looks like an

Re: [OSM-talk] Overpass API version 0.7.56

2020-04-14 Thread Dave F via talk
Thanks for the expansion of Type Shortcuts. It's going to save a lot of typing, especially with 'count'. DaveF On 14/04/2020 06:09, Roland Olbricht wrote: Dear all, I'm back with providing updates. After more than a year I'm proud to present a new release. This release provides some smaller

Re: [Talk-GB] Geospatial Commission to release UPRN/ UPSN identifiers under Open Government Licence

2020-04-10 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
Why country codes? OSM is geospatially aware. On 09/04/2020 14:31, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 at 14:26, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 at 09:21, Tony OSM wrote: If the data is to be in the public domain the next step has to be tagging. Do

Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM themed podcast

2020-04-09 Thread Dave F via talk
Sorry, could hardly understand a word she said. Gave up after 2 minutes. A brief intro about who you are & the purpose of the podcast as well as properly introducing your guest would be useful. DaveF . On 09/04/2020 13:34, Robert Bell via talk wrote: Hello everyone I'm starting a OSM themed

Re: [Talk-GB] Anybody in the Dunstable/Luton area?

2020-03-22 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
Bedfordshire, and is on the left hand side of the road, orientated for buses heading NW along Station Road as they come off the busway. So yes, it is incorrect in OSM. Regards, Stuart Reynolds for traveline south east and anglia On 22 Mar 2020, at 14:17, Dave F via Talk-GB mailto:talk-gb

[Talk-GB] Anybody in the Dunstable/Luton area?

2020-03-22 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
Hi If you're in the Dunstable/Luton area would you be able to clarify if this way is used as a regular bus route and if the bus stop at the Western end exists?  https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/218924564 The only routes I've located so far, continue along the Busway. There's a contributor

Re: [OSM-talk] Taking a break and a call for help

2020-03-22 Thread Dave F via talk
On 21/03/2020 21:11, Paul Johnson wrote: Anybody paid to contribute to OSM *must* be capable of setting the example, as far as I'm concerned. There appears to be some kind of snobbery infiltrating OSM. Very disappointing. DaveF ___ talk mailing

Re: [OSM-talk] Taking a break and a call for help

2020-03-22 Thread Dave F via talk
On 21/03/2020 20:59, Greg Troxel wrote: This really seems unfair. When someone maps for OSM because they want to, they have goals and a typically a good attitude about community norms. When someone is a a paid mapper, their goals come from the person who is paying them, and they don't

Re: [OSM-talk] Taking a break and a call for help

2020-03-21 Thread Dave F via talk
In my area, AL are adding legitimate data which helps improve the quality of the OSM database. I believe they make the same amount of errors as any other contributors, including experienced ones. Unsure why he thinks OSMF should be keeping an eye on contributors purely because they're paid. I

Re: [Talk-GB] Cheers Drive, Bristol

2020-02-16 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
On 15/02/2020 12:08, Borbus wrote: I've long suspected that local councils and other government bodies are giving data directly to Google. They're given to everyone. Look at the planning applications. They often have street names in the documents. Many OSMers are sensible enough not to add

Re: [Talk-GB] Still too many universities in Cambridge

2020-02-08 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
On 06/02/2020 16:49, Phillip Barnett wrote: And here is the email from the guy who did the original mapping, the last time this came up, including his reasoning for the amenity Tag rather than building tag https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2015-May/017457.html Note the time

Re: [Talk-GB] Still too many universities in Cambridge

2020-02-08 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
On 06/02/2020 15:48, Brian Prangle wrote: "OSM is not beholden to data consumers. They take the data 'as is'. That includes any amendments My planned amendment can always be reversed if there is a valid reason. Upsetting CU isn't one" Not a great way to build a community when the data user

Re: [Talk-GB] railway=halt

2020-02-07 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
On 31/01/2020 23:49, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: Hi Over the past few months I've been sorting & adding detail to the UK's National Rail railway stations so that OSM has the correct amount. As it's been a week, with no objections, I'm proceeding with the amendments. I'm keeping a

Re: [Talk-GB] Still too many universities in Cambridge

2020-02-06 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB
ers, Jerry On Tue, 4 Feb 2020 at 15:15, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote: On 04/02/2020 14:28, Dan S wrote: Hi Dave, I agree with what you suggest. Can we be a bit precise though about what you propose? You're proposing to remove amenity=university from building=university in Cambridge, and make

Re: [OSM-talk] it's not a fake, but "it's complicated" - fake building for several shops inside one building

2020-02-05 Thread Dave F via talk
On 05/02/2020 20:06, marc marc wrote: Hello, I've now moved to tagging as many of them them as 'fixme' nice to highlight the issue. but why not fixing it ? As stated previously, it's not the responsibility of the person spotting errors to fix it, especially if it's been performed

Re: [OSM-talk] it's not a fake, but "it's complicated"

2020-02-05 Thread Dave F via talk
On 05/02/2020 15:45, Mario Frasca wrote: hi all,  I am in no position to take care of the amount of instances of this practice, and fix them You shouldn't be expected to. Contributors who make errors should fix them. I've signalled it to their editors, or to their leaders, but apparently

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