Re: [talk-au] Track route names used to name paths

2024-05-17 Thread Mark Pulley
I’ve just uploaded a changeset deleting the overlapping ways for the Grand Clifftop Walk. https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/151456052 Mark P. > On 17 May 2024, at 6:37 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 17/5/24 00:11, Mark Pulley wrote: >>>

Re: [talk-au] Track route names used to name paths

2024-05-16 Thread Mark Pulley
> On 16 May 2024, at 6:15 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > In the Blue Mountains some paths have more than one OSM way - each with > different 'name', at least some of these are routes that may, I repeat may, > not be the true path name. > Example > Way 1199677262 - 'Grand Clifftop

Re: [talk-au] Track route names used to name paths

2024-05-16 Thread Mark Pulley
Using the analogy of highways, the local name would take priority (e.g. name of fire trail), other otherwise-unnamed sections would take the route name. Doesn’t necessarily apply to tracks of course. When I surveyed the Great North Walk 4 years ago from Cowan to Epping Road

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS

2024-02-28 Thread Mark Pulley
There’s probably going to be other examples of NPWS deleting paths. I’ve just had a look at the Jungle Circuit in Blackheath. This was deleted by NPWS https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/144648041 - at least most of it was, a small bridge was left behind near the creek, and the first part

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS

2024-02-23 Thread Mark Pulley
I had suggested changing to access=no, or adding a disused: prefix (mainly to keep NPWS happy), but looking at this page, the recommendation seems to be to keep the tags as they are now (access=discouraged, informal=yes). Mark P. > On 23 Feb 2024, at 7:29 pm, Tom Brennan wrote: > > Given

Re: [talk-au] Question about using NSW Speed Zone Data in OSM

2024-02-21 Thread Mark Pulley
had been changed incorrectly). Mark P. > On 19 Feb 2024, at 8:19 pm, Mark Pulley wrote: > > I haven’t done any reversions yet. I was planning to start from the oldest > changeset and work forwards, however the oldest changesets don’s specify a > source. I’ve asked

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS

2024-02-19 Thread Mark Pulley
comment to my reversion changeset, suggesting access=no (rather > than deleting outright). Any relevant comments there are welcome! > > Mark P. > >> On 13 Feb 2024, at 11:17 pm, Mark Pulley wrote: >> >> Done. https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/14740635

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS

2024-02-19 Thread Mark Pulley
t comments there are welcome! Mark P. > On 13 Feb 2024, at 11:17 pm, Mark Pulley wrote: > > Done. https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/147406352 > > Mark P. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Question about using NSW Speed Zone Data in OSM

2024-02-19 Thread Mark Pulley
11 Feb 2024 at 22:00, Mark Pulley <mailto:mrpul...@iinet.net.au>> wrote: >> I’ve got some spare time (having caught up with the surveys from my last >> holidays), so I can go through these and revert them. Any objections? >> >> Mark P. >> >>

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS

2024-02-13 Thread Mark Pulley
Done. https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/147406352 Mark P. > On 12 Feb 2024, at 7:05 am, forster wrote: > > Hi > > Its OK by me. The park ranger who appears to be most connected to this has > been contacted and invited into our discussion. What more can we do? Its > unfortunatee that a

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS

2024-02-11 Thread Mark Pulley
In that case, should I go ahead now with the revert? Mark P. > On 9 Feb 2024, at 6:23 am, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: > > No, nothing that I have heard. > Tony > > >> Just following up on this - has there been any further input from National >> Parks regarding these paths? >> >> Mark P.

Re: [talk-au] Question about using NSW Speed Zone Data in OSM

2024-02-11 Thread Mark Pulley
go through the > proper process, so based on and the issues you've rased it should be fine to > revert all their affected changes and then ask going forward to go through > the import guidelines https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import_guidelines. > > > On Thu, 8 Feb 2024

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS

2024-02-08 Thread Mark Pulley
Just following up on this - has there been any further input from National Parks regarding these paths? Mark P. > On 3 Jan 2024, at 3:28 pm, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: > > Hi > > I was able to talk to the Parks ranger for this park. He identified himself > as Patrick and I have his

[talk-au] Question about using NSW Speed Zone Data in OSM

2024-02-08 Thread Mark Pulley
Does the NSW Government Speed Zone data have a licence suitable for importing into OSM? Also, is it generally accurate? https://opendata.transport.nsw.gov.au/dataset/speed-zones https://opendata.transport.nsw.gov.au/dataset/road-segment-data-from-datansw The reason I ask is that I recently came

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS

2024-01-08 Thread Mark Pulley
objections / changes before I go ahead? >> >> Mark P. >> >>> On 18 Dec 2023, at 8:22?am, Graeme Fitzpatrick >>> wrote: >>> >>> So access=discouraged may be the best answer, possibly together with a >>> hazard= tag? >>> >

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS

2024-01-02 Thread Mark Pulley
; OSM liasion contact. > > Thanks > > Graeme > > > On Sun, 17 Dec 2023 at 20:02, Mark Pulley <mailto:mrpul...@iinet.net.au>> wrote: >> I’m not aware of any restriction regarding staying on marked tracks only. >> The map on the sign at the start of the walk

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS

2023-12-17 Thread Mark Pulley
I’m not aware of any restriction regarding staying on marked tracks only. The map on the sign at the start of the walk doesn’t mention any restriction, and the National Parks web site doesn’t mention any restrictions. Mark P. > On 16 Dec 2023, at 1:32 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > If there is

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS

2023-12-14 Thread Mark Pulley
that help with what to do with this particular example? Mark P. > > On Tue, 3 Oct 2023 at 23:33, Mark Pulley <mailto:mrpul...@iinet.net.au>> wrote: >> A brief summary of the options for this type of situation (not just this >> particular edit, but similar edits in t

Re: [talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS

2023-10-03 Thread Mark Pulley
A brief summary of the options for this type of situation (not just this particular edit, but similar edits in the past and probably future): 1. Revert the change sets (in the absence of more information) 2. Partial revert, with a change in tags 3. Leave the deletion as it is. For this

[talk-au] Deletion of informal paths by NSW NPWS

2023-09-21 Thread Mark Pulley
I know this has been discussed on the list before, but the NSW NPWS has deleted some informal paths at Apsley Falls (Oxley Wild Rivers National Park). These were deleted in 2022 by a NPWS employee, and after discussion were reverted. I re-surveyed them later that year. These paths have been

Re: [talk-au] NSW Bridle Track

2023-03-06 Thread Mark Pulley
One question I forgot to ask yesterday - what do I call the track? When I did my original survey in 2009, I called it ‘Bridle Track’. At some stage it was changed to “The Bridle Track” as that is the name used on the DCS NSW Base Map. All the road name signs I saw on this trip have “Bridle

Re: [talk-au] NSW Bridle Track

2023-03-05 Thread Mark Pulley
I’ve just uploaded my edits from yesterday’s Bridle Track trip. I got as far as Monaghans Bluff in my 2WD. I then walked the old road, then returned to my car via the new road. Road looks good, but there is bulldust present on some sections, particularly the ascent from the Bathurst side. I saw

Re: [talk-au] NSW Bridle Track

2023-02-21 Thread Mark Pulley
> On 21 Feb 2023, at 2:42 pm, Josh Marshall wrote: > > Australian road tagging guidelines at > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines/Roads > > arguably override the general OSM guidelines,

Re: [talk-au] Proposed Bulk Edit: Road Route Numbering.

2022-10-01 Thread Mark Pulley
I did some work on some of the relations prior to going on holidays. I can take over where I left off, but it won’t be for another week. Maybe a good starting point for anyone would be to go through the relations I’ve already done on and change the tags on those ways. See the appropriate

Re: [talk-au] Proposed Bulk Edit: Road Route Numbering.

2022-09-21 Thread Mark Pulley
Sounds OK to me. I’ve been doing some work on the relations - I’ve been arranging the ways in order, to make it easier to see where any gaps are, and adding missing ways back in. (I’m assuming that when some editors have split ways, the relations haven’t been copied to both ways, e.g. a new

Re: [talk-au] Adopting AU prefix in route network

2022-09-05 Thread Mark Pulley
Just a question about when (if) we do this. In the past I’ve placed the network/ref tags on both the relation and on the individual ways. Do we need the route number details on the ways as well, or can these be deleted from the ways? Also, do we still need the old_ref tags (e.g. old route

Re: [talk-au] Tagging Culverts on Roads

2020-11-27 Thread Mark Pulley
There is flood_prone=yes that can be used for these roads - but only where signposted. Mark P. > On 27 Nov 2020, at 8:19 pm, cleary wrote: > > In regard to sections of road that are subject to flooding, I think that is a > separate issue. Sometimes lengths of road may be signposted as

Re: [talk-au] Links with name

2019-02-12 Thread Mark Pulley
That third example is part of the residential street https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/172830002 so that name should be kept. (Should it be reclassified as residential?) Mark P. > On 12 Feb 2019, at 6:22 pm, Petra Rajka - (p) wrote: > links (or other way categories) between dual carriageways

Re: [talk-au] Our work in last two weeks

2019-01-23 Thread Mark Pulley
I generally split these ways. A couple of reasons: 1. Traffic is generally not meant to make U-turns here. Occasionally there is an explicit no-U-turn sign, but most of the time there is a double white line extending from the end of the median strip preventing turning. 2. If a route relation

Re: [talk-au] Roadside rest areas tagged as camp sites

2017-06-02 Thread Mark Pulley
Quoting Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: _Truck Parking_ Some places have had the name 'Truck Parking' applied to them (service roads, parking areas and rest areas too). Not good. My confusion here is does this mean truck only? I think other users may have the same issue. And some rest areas have

Re: [talk-au] Roadside rest areas tagged as camp sites

2017-04-19 Thread Mark Pulley
Quoting Nick Hocking : tents=yes/no amd caravans=yes/no can be used. I can't find any specific tags for campervans (taginfo only has 3 instances worldwide of campervan/campervans) - presumably caravans=yes/no will cover this. I think that if they are signed on the

Re: [talk-au] Roadside rest areas tagged as camp sites

2017-04-18 Thread Mark Pulley
I've changed a few of these 'camp sites' to 'rest areas' when I've come across them. Many of them were added prior to the existence of the rest area tag. I've got no issues with these being re-tagged. Quoting Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: I think the tag 'highway=rest_area' should replace

Re: [talk-au] Legal access to Public land ...

2016-07-04 Thread Mark Pulley
On 2 Jul 2016, at 3:30 pm, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 7/2/2016 9:26 AM, Frank wrote: >> OpenStreetMap Wiki page Australian Tagging Guidelines has been >> changed on 1 July 2016 by Swanilli to say that the public has a legal right >> to access public land ... >> >> No! >> >> The

Re: [talk-au] LPI Base Map road names

2016-02-21 Thread Mark Pulley
On 21 Feb 2016, at 10:03 pm, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 21/02/2016 8:49 PM, Mark Pulley wrote: >> I’ve been adding some names from the LPI base map. I was wondering how >> ‘accurate’ the names are. Most of the time the names look OK but I’ve >>

[talk-au] LPI Base Map road names

2016-02-21 Thread Mark Pulley
I’ve been adding some names from the LPI base map. I was wondering how ‘accurate’ the names are. Most of the time the names look OK but I’ve noticed a couple of issues. 1. Occasionally the name of the street is mis-spelt. Sometimes it is an obvious misspelling, but I’ve put a fixme tag on at

Re: [talk-au] Northern NSW again

2016-01-05 Thread Mark Pulley
station. I’m inclined to return this section of highway from motorway to trunk. What does everyone else think? On 20 Dec 2015, at 9:11 am, Mark Pulley <mrpul...@lizzy.com.au> wrote: > On 19 Dec 2015, at 1:20 pm, Andy Townsend <ajt1...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Just for

Re: [talk-au] Northern NSW again

2015-12-19 Thread Mark Pulley
On 19 Dec 2015, at 1:20 pm, Andy Townsend wrote: > Hi, > > Just for info, I've suggested that a relatively new mapper in Northern NSW > might want to contact other mappers here in a comment on > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/35480438 >

Re: [talk-au] Highway route number prefixes for QLD and NT

2015-11-11 Thread Mark Pulley
On 10 Nov 2015, at 8:51 pm, Leith Bade wrote: > Hi Alex, > > That was what I originally going to implement. > > However we will need to keep a list of individual routes for QLD NT and WA > since there is no way to separate national and state routes in those states > to give

[talk-au] Question - restricted turning restrictions

2015-08-23 Thread Mark Pulley
Can anyone give a suggestion for how to tag a turning restriction that only applies to long vehicles? The basic tags I understand: restriction = no_left_turn type = restriction I have added this exception from the turn restrictions plugin: except

Re: [talk-au] AGRI.openstreetmap.org not working

2015-05-21 Thread Mark Pulley
Just a gentle reminder! Is AGRI likely to be coming back? I recently did some edits at Old Bar (NSW), and Bing imagery here shows a very large cloud over the town. On 1 Dec 2014, at 9:39 am, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: Still not available. Any update on when it's likely to be

Re: [talk-au] AGRI.openstreetmap.org not working

2015-05-21 Thread Mark Pulley
On 21 May 2015, at 10:23 pm, Andrew Harvey andrew.harv...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 May 2015 at 22:02, Mark Pulley mrpul...@lizzy.com.au wrote: Just a gentle reminder! Is AGRI likely to be coming back? I recently did some edits at Old Bar (NSW), and Bing imagery here shows a very large cloud

[talk-au] Route number for Cross City Tunnel, Sydney

2015-01-16 Thread Mark Pulley
Does anyone here know the official route of NSW route A4 in central Sydney? When I recently used the Cross City Tunnel, there were signs marked ‘A4’ westbound (the first one I was was at the exit to Sir John Young Crescent). However, on my return trip eastbound I didn’t see any route numbers

[talk-au] Question - names of motorways leaving Sydney

2014-09-08 Thread Mark Pulley
When the new alphanumeric route numbers in NSW were unveiled, some of the motorways were renamed (e.g. Sydney-Newcastle Freeway became Pacific Motorway, South-Western Motorway became Hume Motorway). In OSM these all have the new route number included in the road name (e.g. name=M4 Western

Re: [talk-au] path undre overhanging cliff?

2014-04-04 Thread Mark Pulley
Quoting Frank sundowne...@optusnet.com.au: Here is a nice puzzel? How would you tag a path that lies under an overhanging cliff? So it is not a tunnel, nor under a bridge... What about covered=yes (similar to roads under buildings)? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:covered Mark P.

Re: [talk-au] Where to use sat image rather than GPS input?

2014-04-04 Thread Mark Pulley
On 4 Apr 2014, at 11:22 am, Frank sundowne...@optusnet.com.au wrote: Context: Jenolan Caves, there is a tunnel that connects two valleys. The GPS information contains errors that is enlarged by the reduced view of GPS satellites and by multipath reflections caused by the valley and the steep

Re: [talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic

2014-02-19 Thread Mark Pulley
On 19 Feb 2014, at 6:15 pm, Mark Pulley mrpul...@lizzy.com.au wrote: Quoting Jason Ward jasonjwa...@gmail.com: Sorry for the double post / email, This [1] looks like the reversion has been done for AU. If a mrpulley is on the talk-au list could you update Serge and talk-au? [1]: http

Re: [talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic

2014-02-18 Thread Mark Pulley
Quoting Jason Ward jasonjwa...@gmail.com: Sorry for the double post / email, This [1] looks like the reversion has been done for AU. If a mrpulley is on the talk-au list could you update Serge and talk-au? [1]: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20634749 Cheers, Jason That would be

Re: [talk-au] Motorway edits in NSW / Vic

2014-02-10 Thread Mark Pulley
On 11 Feb 2014, at 2:03 am, SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote: Just for a info, the people on the talk-gb list have noticed a number of edits upgrading unfinished motorways to constructed status. The same user has made similar edits in Australia, the most recent of which is:

Re: [talk-au] Damage to Maps

2014-01-02 Thread Mark Pulley
mistake then the changeset should be rolled back. Cheers, Jason On 2 Jan 2014 16:02, Mark Pulley mrpul...@lizzy.com.au wrote: Quoting Jason Ward jasonjwa...@gmail.com: This appears to be the changeset (done in the Web interface). I have messages the person and let them know

Re: [talk-au] Damage to Maps

2014-01-01 Thread Mark Pulley
Quoting Jason Ward jasonjwa...@gmail.com: This appears to be the changeset (done in the Web interface). I have messages the person and let them know that a rollback of that will soon occur. http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/19743866 Please go ahead and do that Peter. Do we need to

Re: [talk-au] M31 at Holbrook

2013-11-18 Thread Mark Pulley
I've just submitted the edit for the Holbrook bypass and associated roads. I haven't yet submitted the GPS traces (homework for me). The old Hume Hwy north of where Pinnabar Road used to join is still present, but blocked off by temporary road closure barriers (yellow and black striped signs

Re: [talk-au] M31 at Holbrook

2013-11-15 Thread Mark Pulley
On 15/11/2013, at 11:14 AM, Arthur Geeson wrote: Hi, Yesterday I drove down the M31 and left the GPS running and this morning I uploaded the gpx 'Parramatta to Lancefield'. I get extremely good correlation all the way with the exception of the new Holbrook by-pass. I was wondering if

Re: [talk-au] Duplicate nodes

2013-08-13 Thread Mark Pulley
Running Validator shows up a list of duplicate nodes. Once the validation window is open, clicking on the Validation tab runs through a series of tests. (Validation also runs prior to uploading, but only checks the data to be uploaded, not all the previously downloaded data.) If you only want

[talk-au] Electric grid - how to tag

2013-06-28 Thread Mark Pulley
I'm tagging an 'electric grid' on the way into Finke Gorge National Park (Northern Territory). It has the same function as a normal grid, but rather than being made of metal bars, it has several electrified wires (same wires as used in electric fences), placed across the track, raised a couple

Re: [talk-au] Electric grid - how to tag

2013-06-28 Thread Mark Pulley
On 29/06/2013, at 10:35 AM, David Bannon wrote: Mark, 99% of the times electrification=yes is used, it has railway= there as well. Can we assume any rendering would look for the railway= tag first ? I mean to say that no one 'should' assume electrification= applies only to railways ?

Re: [talk-au] Alphanumerics in Northern Territory?

2013-06-12 Thread Mark Pulley
he'd appreciate your updated observations too. Done! Ben PS - thanks for fixing up those Hume Highway issues around Casual I mentioned the other day! :-) Do you mean Casula?!! On 11/06/2013, at 10:59 PM, Mark Pulley mrpul...@lizzy.com.au wrote: I'm just about to start my OSM edits from my

[talk-au] Alphanumerics in Northern Territory?

2013-06-11 Thread Mark Pulley
I'm just about to start my OSM edits from my recent Central Australian trip. I noticed a few signs on the Stuart Highway between Alice Springs airport and Alice Springs that had the route number A87 (and a brief glimpse of one that looked like A1!), yet all the other route numbers I saw on the

Re: [talk-au] Help checking out huts on the Overland Track

2013-06-01 Thread Mark Pulley
On 01/06/2013, at 4:44 PM, Ian Sergeant wrote: Last I looked the osm Australia download was months old. I used OSM Australia for my recent trip to the Northern Territory, and all my recent edits from Bing Imagery were present. Mark P. ___ Talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Cycle routes and MTB routes

2013-02-15 Thread Mark Pulley
On 13/02/2013, at 9:15 AM, Steve Bennett wrote: I haven't done it, but I understood the Mawson Trail to be dirt roads rather than mountain biking, so would be a better candidate for an RCN tag. I've only seen small bits of the Mawson Trail (while doing walks in the Flinders Ranges a couple

Re: [talk-au] cities changed to towns

2012-12-11 Thread Mark Pulley
On 11/12/2012, at 9:17 AM, Chris Barham wrote: Hi, some Australian places have changed from cities to towns on; changeset was: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/14217241 The ones on the changeset that I think should be cities are: NSW: Albury, Bathurst, Broken Hill, Coffs

Re: [talk-au] NSW Alphanumeric routes

2012-11-25 Thread Mark Pulley
On 04/11/2012, at 10:13 PM, Ian Sergeant wrote: I also noticed on the RTA site a while back, they were saying that they were trying to work with map and data providers to provide timely and accurate updates. It certainly may be worthwhile sending them an email to see if we can take advantage

[talk-au] NSW Alphanumeric routes

2012-11-04 Thread Mark Pulley
The NSW RTA has a web site up on the new alphanumeric routes, including maps of the new routes. www.rta.nsw.gov.au/roadprojects/projects/alpha_numeric/index.html I was wondering when we should update the route numbers to the new routes. Some have already been done, e.g. A41 (Bathurst to Albury

[talk-au] Northern Queensland - any requests?

2012-10-24 Thread Mark Pulley
I'm going up to northern Queensland soon (flying to Townsville, driving from there via Undara to the Atherton tablelands, up to Mossman and Cape Tribulation, then back to Townsville via Cairns. I'll be doing some mapping on the way, but does anyone have anything that particularly needs checking

Re: [talk-au] dirt roads - a summary

2012-10-22 Thread Mark Pulley
On 23/10/2012, at 11:09 AM, David Bannon wrote: 1. Nathan sees all cases of highway=track implying 4x4 required. I don't really agree, the dynamic range in this space is just too tight, we need to use 'track' on roads that are both 4x4 and not 4x4. Thats what 4x4_only tag is for. Whats the

Re: [talk-au] FW: OSM Australia Garmin downloads have gone bung ?

2012-10-05 Thread Mark Pulley
I've just sent an email to another address I have for him about this. On 04/10/2012, at 11:05 PM, Brett Russell wrote: Hi Yes this is crept in. I too have had no reply to an email sent to the contact address. Be great to get this very valuable resource back in action. Does any one

[talk-au] ABS suburb boundary relations

2012-09-03 Thread Mark Pulley
I have noticed some suburb boundaries are still in OSM. Most of these are post-redaction fragments of the boundaries (presumably the only nodes remaining are from subsequent edits). I had removed some of these while editing prior to redaction, and I was thinking that it is better to remove

Re: [talk-au] Missing data

2012-08-20 Thread Mark Pulley
If Diego initially mapped the area, then it should be reverted to his edits. More likely: 1 Someone else maps the area initially 2 You later remap it 3 License change announced 4 Initial mapper does not agree to new CTs 5 remapped data deleted by redaction bot Some of your information may

Re: [talk-au] Fixing relations in Canberra

2012-08-15 Thread Mark Pulley
On 14/08/2012, at 10:27 PM, Nick Hocking wrote: Ok - I've just driven 23 and 52 and Alt 23 (well not the entire lengths of course). Thanks. I've just updated the relations in this section. Another puzzle (tagging wise) is that travelling eastwards on 23 at Fyshwick, Ipswich Street is

Re: [talk-au] maxspeed - best practice?

2012-08-14 Thread Mark Pulley
Quoting Ben Johnson tangarar...@gmail.com: On the subject of tagging site unseen... you brought up a perfectly legit point about routers and efforts made in the past to assist routing engines. I'm just trying to get a sense where our community stands in relation to maxspeed tagging site

[talk-au] Fixing relations in Canberra

2012-08-10 Thread Mark Pulley
I've been updating some relations (and fixing gaps in highways) recently. Can someone help with a couple of these in the ACT? http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/540723 This one is Kings Highway NR52 from Queanbeyan to Batemans Bay. What is the route once it reaches the ACT border

Re: [talk-au] What's best to do with ways split by decliners?

2012-07-01 Thread Mark Pulley
On 01/07/2012, at 9:29 AM, John Henderson wrote: There's another side to this coin. When fixing ways scheduled for deletion, it's often useful to split a very long way, delete the section to be fixed from a GPS trace, and recreate that section. The problem is that whenever a split is

[talk-au] What's best to do with ways split by decliners?

2012-06-30 Thread Mark Pulley
I have noticed in my local area that there are some ways that I added (as version 1), that have subsequently been split by ODBL-decliners. The new ways created by them are currently showing up in the badmap view at http://cleanmap.poole.ch/ . What is the best way to rescue this data (as the

Re: [talk-au] How to fix the coastlines?

2012-04-11 Thread Mark Pulley
Quoting Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: So given that large slabs of coastline are about to be deleted - what exactly are we going to do about them? Are there any sources of data we can use? Does anyone have the skills and tools to import them? Is it too early to upload the replacement

Re: [talk-au] Effect of license change

2012-03-27 Thread Mark Pulley
Quoting Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com: Australia will be completely flooded, as much of coastline is still non-compliant. A couple of thoughts about this: 1. Should we import the new ABS boundaries now (as the old ones will go), then use this data to create a new coastline? (This will

Re: [talk-au] Boundary removal.

2012-02-02 Thread Mark Pulley
On 02/02/2012, at 9:41 PM, Nick Hocking wrote: Does anyone know if there are old (August 2008) Australian OSM extracts available otherwise I'll start the planet download (only 5 gig !!!) I don't have an OSM extracts, but there might be another way: undeleting the old ways. At

Re: [talk-au] Boundary removal.

2012-02-01 Thread Mark Pulley
On 01/02/2012, at 9:09 PM, Nick Hocking wrote: So, should we clear out the doomed relations now or leave the broken ones for the DWG to remove for us in April? I think leave in the broken ones for now. I've started work on removing the version 1 ways, but if someone with a faster internet

Re: [talk-au] Boundary removal.

2012-02-01 Thread Mark Pulley
Quoting Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com: I think doing a JOSM search for user:ABS2006 does everything we want here. Because JOSM is only aware of the most recent user, this selects all V1 ABS2006 imported objects only. Relations, nodes and ways. These can then be deleted with a single

Re: [talk-au] Mass revert now??

2012-01-05 Thread Mark Pulley
Quoting Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com: On 6 January 2012 04:42, Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote: I looked at doing a revert for the street where I lived but found that just one Fixed Stuff changeset was affecting 12,576 different ways! I guess a lot of other folk are in the

[talk-au] Centenary Hwy / Cunningham Hwy Junction (the Ipswich one)

2012-01-05 Thread Mark Pulley
Is anyone here familiar with the junction of the Centenary and Cunningham Highways south of Ipswich? (Not the other junction at Darra.) http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-27.66562lon=152.74265zoom=17 East of the junction, on approaching the junction the Cunningham Highway divides into two -

Re: [talk-au] Finding missing streetnames

2012-01-05 Thread Mark Pulley
Quoting Chris Barham cbar...@pobox.com: On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 13:47, David Findlay da...@woodypointcomms.com.au wrote: Is there a way to print out a map that shows all the streets missing names in red or something? Cloudmade has a noname map style:

Re: [talk-au] Back in editing - Tracks and 4wd areas

2012-01-04 Thread Mark Pulley
Quoting David Findlay da...@woodypointcomms.com.au: I've recently recorded various bush walking, biking and 4wd trails, most of which aren't easily visible from aerial imagery. Is this ok? The more GPS tracks, the better. I recently added bushwalking tracks at Carnarvon Gorge, Queensland,

Re: [talk-au] Re-entering data to avoid licensing failure

2011-12-15 Thread Mark Pulley
On 14/12/2011, at 4:56 PM, John Henderson wrote: Are others doing this? Is there a better way of maintaining OSM's integrity given the situation we find ourselves in? What we really need is to find out ASAP how the non-ODBL data will be deleted - will the minimum amount be lost (e.g. nodes

Re: [talk-au] Re-entering data to avoid licensing failure

2011-12-14 Thread Mark Pulley
Only if v1 is from a non-acceptor. I assumed from Ian's post that v1 is from an acceptor. (Or have I read that wrong?) Quoting Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com: Problem with this is that you are breaching copyright. Cheers Ross On 15/12/11 12:34, Ian Sergeant wrote: For a couple of objects,

Re: [talk-au] Where did the town go?

2011-12-08 Thread Mark Pulley
On 01/12/2011, at 10:34 PM, Mark Pulley wrote: On 01/12/2011, at 6:15 PM, Andrew Harvey wrote: Deleted by user: cc_cleaner in changeset http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/9915617 I've also just noticed that most of Cobar has gone. I did some edits on the way through in May

Re: [talk-au] Maxspeed bots

2011-12-02 Thread Mark Pulley
On 02/12/2011, at 2:13 PM, Ben Kelley wrote: The content of these edits is in the public domain (I.e. the default residential speed limit in Australia) and these edits could be re-edited by an actual bot. Given that these edits are easy to identify, and the large number of ways, this might

Re: [talk-au] Where did the town go?

2011-12-01 Thread Mark Pulley
On 01/12/2011, at 6:15 PM, Andrew Harvey wrote: On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 4:58 PM, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: Lake Cargelligo township shows mapped streets at this zoom level: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-33.3081lon=146.3792zoom=12layers=M but disappears as you zoom in from

Re: [talk-au] A way to go

2011-12-01 Thread Mark Pulley
I've been thinking for a while about the best way to remove CC-BY-SA-only data when the time comes. As already noted, some people have started already by deleting large areas of data and re-adding from bing (losing all the tags) - which at best may be unnecessary, and at present (as no date has

Re: [talk-au] Princes Highway (Relation 538443)

2011-09-07 Thread Mark Pulley
Quoting Ian Sergeant ina...@gmail.com: I'm sure we are interested in the history of the development of the road network, but I'm not sure our database is the place for the information right now. For those interested, a partial history of the development of Highway 1 is at Ozroads:

Re: [talk-au] Mapnik rendering

2011-09-01 Thread Mark Pulley
Quoting John Henderson snow...@gmx.com: highway=ford is not rendering on Mapnik, eg: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-35.50894lon=149.67154zoom=17layers=M I believe it should. I have no idea who to raise this issue with, or how. Before I spend more time looking, does somebody happen to

Re: [talk-au] Missing streets in Sydney

2011-08-31 Thread Mark Pulley
On 26/08/2011, at 1:33 PM, Nick Hocking wrote: I'm sure all the avid tracersout there will deny this,but, I believe that this is the downside to tracing. Once an area looks well mapped, there is little incentive for anyone to go there to map it properly. I'd really like it if all roads

Re: [talk-au] Active Australian OSM contributors in light of CT/license changes

2011-07-06 Thread Mark Pulley
On 06/07/2011, at 9:29 PM, Andrew Harvey wrote: because any CC-BY-SA derived data you add may be removed if OSM abandons CC-BY-SA at some point in the future (or may even be conflicting with your agreed CTs now...). How could I add CC-BY-SA derived data if I use GPS traces, audio

Re: [talk-au] rationalising administrative boundaries

2011-06-19 Thread Mark Pulley
On 15/06/2011, at 3:15 PM, John Smith wrote: The current boundaries will be removed in the near future, so if I were you I wouldn't spend to much time fussing over them. Some of these boundaries have been edited to include highway=* and waterway=* tags (mainly in areas with (at the time) no

Re: [talk-au] rationalising administrative boundaries

2011-06-19 Thread Mark Pulley
On 19/06/2011, at 7:56 PM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: most of those places don't have better imagery, certainly not the places I did. Some places do have better imagery, or in some cases GPS traces (I noticed today some of the Barrier Hwy north of Burra is done on a relation - I have too much

Re: [talk-au] rationalising administrative boundaries

2011-06-19 Thread Mark Pulley
Quoting Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net: On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 00:10:47 +1000 Mark Pulley mrpul...@lizzy.com.au wrote: And as they won't be pulled from fosm why should I be concerned? Did you get out of bed on the wrong side this morning? Rudeness won't get you anywhere. Actually, my

Re: [talk-au] JohnSmith edits on 19 June 2011

2011-06-19 Thread Mark Pulley
Quoting John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: On 20 June 2011 02:11, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Please clarify for us the sources of these edits? What does it matter since I'm never going to agree to the CT... Now you're being rude. It does matter - if you don't put a comment

Re: [talk-au] JohnSmith edits on 19 June 2011

2011-06-19 Thread Mark Pulley
Quoting David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au: On Mon, 2011-06-20 at 09:29 +1000, Mark Pulley wrote: Quoting John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: On 20 June 2011 02:11, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Please clarify for us the sources of these edits? What does it matter since I'm never

Re: [talk-au] Kempsey, NSW

2011-05-28 Thread Mark Pulley
On 26/05/2011, at 4:50 AM, John Smith wrote: There is Bing imagery covering Kempsey, but a distinct lack of mapping, or was before I started adding them, but still plenty to do. Many of the towns on the north coast need Bing mapping - Taree and Nambucca Heads spring to mind, as I have done

Re: [talk-au] Thunderbolts way

2011-03-26 Thread Mark Pulley
On 26/03/2011, at 4:15 PM, John Smith wrote: I'm heading off along Thunderbolts way (New England region of NSW) and was wondering if there was any part of the way that needs mapping. Most of the towns seem to be at least partially mapped and I'll be doing some careful checking to see what's

[talk-au] Splitting ways with ABS data, and the new OSM terms

2011-03-12 Thread Mark Pulley
As no-one has answered this question yet, I thought I'd better re-ask the question, as it will determine whether I can agree to the new terms or not. On 23/02/2011, at 4:27 PM, Mark Pulley wrote: Quoting Andrew Laughton laughton.and...@gmail.com: Anybody who has used nearmap or Government

[talk-au] Question about source of low-resolution NearMap images

2011-01-11 Thread Mark Pulley
I'm working out whether I am able to accept the new OSM terms. I haven't used the detailed NearMap aerial photos, but what I have used is a low-quality image at zoom 13 and 14. I used these images for the Kiewa River in northern Victoria (this was before the detailed imagery for northern

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