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2005-02-24 Thread Cees
Het was op donderdag 24 februari 2005 om 22:18 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'html whitelist wish' : Hallo Peter, PM> PLEASE, not again. We have had this for so many times over and over. TFC>> I really hope this will be implemented in thebat so we can TFC>> see mailing list in html format. PM>

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2005-02-25 Thread Paul Van Noord
On 2/25/2005 Tony Boom wrote: TFC>> wow that's sad to see thebat users to closed mind TB> Nothing to do with closed minds. Most people on here chose TB! TB> specifically because of it's inability to handle html. You go changing TB> that and everyone will have to find another client. 2/25/200

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2005-02-25 Thread Paul Van Noord
On 2/25/2005 The Final Cut wrote: TFC> You must be kidding to think ppl would have to switch to TFC> another email client if thebat download images from web. TFC> As mentionned _many_ times, that would work with a TFC> whitelist and the most important, the option would be disabled by TFC> default

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2005-02-25 Thread Paul Van Noord
On 2/25/2005 The Final Cut wrote: TFC> 3. peers? show me some and your sources 2/25/2005 7:34 AM Hi The, Eudora, OE, Outlook, etc. -- Take Care, Paul The Bat! v.3.0.2.10 on Win2k SP4 Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using T

Re[2]: html whitelist wish

2005-02-25 Thread Paul Van Noord
On 2/25/2005 Dave Gorman wrote: DG> unusability of any of these. Outhouse and Outhouse Express especially DG> are in a class of their own when it comes to bloat and security flaws. True, the outs are in a class by themselves. However, Thunderbird emulates more of the "look & feel" of the outs than

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2005-02-25 Thread Paul Van Noord
On 2/25/2005 Mark Partous wrote: MP> Content : one company logo and a table of values, 2 pages in total. MP> Size: 912 kb. MP> After reformating by me : 54 kb. with a minimal loss of quality (if one looks MP> carefully, it can be seen in the logo). 2/25/2005 9:14 AM Hi Mark, HTML messag

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2005-02-25 Thread Paul Van Noord
On 2/25/2005 Mark Partous wrote: MP> You silly boy, the group of long-time users said, you don't know what you MP> are talking about. MP> And at the end of another day of nice driving in their beloved old car, all MP> went to sleep in their bed. MP> Not without opening the doors of their car of

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2005-02-25 Thread Paul Van Noord
On 2/25/2005 Richard Wakeford wrote: RW> someone. Alright, there are many people out there who don't know how to RW> do that but I want my pictures in my camera to be of the highest quality RW> possible thank you :-) 2/25/2005 11:00 AM Hi Richard, A 1600x1200 picture reduced to 320x240 for v

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2005-02-25 Thread Paul Van Noord
On 2/25/2005 Dave Gorman wrote: DG> Granted, there are many end users who will not know the ramifications of DG> their choices. Buy why should my computing experience be diminished or DG> made more inconvenient for no reason other than to prevent the stupid DG> users from screwing things up? 2/

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2005-02-25 Thread Paul Van Noord
On 2/25/2005 Dennis Hays wrote: DH> What we all have in common, on this list, are the reasons we DH> originally came to TB! And, from a marketing point of view, DH> these have to be respected. I don't think most of us looked at DH> this product because of its fine HTML viewer. 2/25/2005 2:27 PM

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2005-02-25 Thread Paul Van Noord
On 2/25/2005 David Calvarese wrote: DC> Someone on this list called Pocomail a 'child's toy', but it's a child's DC> toy that has basic functionality that TB! is currently lacking. Both DC> the HTML/Image issue as well as (IIRC) proper IMAP support. 2/25/2005 2:25 PM Hi David, Conversely, POC

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2005-02-25 Thread Paul Van Noord
On 2/25/2005 David Calvarese wrote: DC> We just want the option to be able to click DC> a button and have it display them if we want it too. And possibly being DC> able to tag an address in the address book to 'Display Remote Images' or DC> even 'Trust HTML email from people in your address book

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2005-02-25 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : TB> Hello The, TB> A reminder of what The Final Cut on TBBETA typed on: TB> 24 February 2005 at 22:38:25 GMT +0100 TFC>> wow that's sad to see thebat users to closed mind TB> Nothing to do with closed minds. Most people on here chose TB! TB> specifi

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2005-02-25 Thread Paul Van Noord
On 2/25/2005 AC Martin wrote: AM> BTW, if the neophyte is curious about TB! not loading images, they'll AM> ask us and we'd be the first to tell them to *simply* open the message AM> in their browser, leaving them at risk, even if we warn them. :) 2/25/2005 8:12 PM Hi AC, Speak for yourself. T

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2005-02-25 Thread Paul Van Noord
On 2/25/2005 Allie wrote: A> Furthermore, if A> TB! loaded the images, what would make it compromise the machine more A> than if Opera were to load those same images? 2/25/2005 9:09 PM Hi Allie, If you must click on an icon and wait for a browser to load there is opportunity to think about yo

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2005-02-26 Thread Tim Casten
Hello Tony, Saturday, February 26, 2005, 5:48:47 AM, you wrote: > Incredibat here we come : Don't give rit any ideas..Please! :) -- Best regards, Tim Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://w

Re[2]: html whitelist wish

2005-02-26 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : TB> Hello The, TB> A reminder of what The Final Cut on TBBETA typed on: TB> 25 February 2005 at 12:37:15 GMT +0100 TFC>> You must be kidding to think ppl would have to switch to another TFC>> email client if thebat download images from web TB> Must I

Re[2]: html whitelist wish

2005-02-26 Thread Ethan J. Mings
Saturday, February 26, 2005, 5:48:47 AM, you wrote: A>> Of course, if someone were to tell you that templates are for the A>> lazy, you'd say they didn't know what they were talking about, A>> wouldn't you? > OK, I concede defeat, go ahead, Incredibat here we come :) If I remember correctly, t

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2005-02-26 Thread Cees
Het was op zaterdag 26 februari 2005 om 12:30 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'html whitelist wish' : Hallo Tony, TB> Hello Tim, TB> A reminder of what Tim Casten on TBBETA typed on: TB> 26 February 2005 at 12:16:42 GMT +0100 TC>> Don't give rit any ideas..Please! TB> Why not, pretty

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2005-02-26 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : TB> Hello David, TB> A reminder of what David Calvarese on TBBETA typed on: TB> 25 February 2005 at 19:39:29 GMT +0100 DC>> Someone on this list called Pocomail a 'child's toy', but it's a DC>> child's toy that has basic functionality that TB! is c

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2005-02-26 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : TB> Hello David, TB> A reminder of what David Calvarese on TBBETA typed on: TB> 25 February 2005 at 20:39:45 GMT +0100 DC>> Poco might be missing a lot of the advanced features... But it at least DC>> has all the basics TB> So has a pencil and paper.

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2005-02-26 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : DC>> :) And at the moment, I AM using Thunderbird and not TB!. TB> In that case join a thunderbird list and don't come on here saying TB> Thunderbird can do this and Thunderbird can do that. If html is TB> THE ONLY thing The Bat can't do compared to a

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2005-02-26 Thread NetVicious
sábado, 26 feb 2005 at 16:39, it seems you wrote: > We are not talking about this. We are talking about the *option* of > whitelisting newsletters individually for download of images. The > option will be turned off by default, and who wants to whitelist any > address does it on his own risk. I si

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2005-02-26 Thread Cees
Het was op zaterdag 26 februari 2005 om 16:30 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'html whitelist wish' : Hallo Thomas,   ___\/___ o/\o   TF> Please do not protect *me* from myself. I do not take well to TF> nannying. If I cause a problem to my system by downloading images, it TF> will be my own f

Re[2]: html whitelist wish

2005-02-26 Thread Paul Van Noord
On 2/26/2005 Mic Cullen wrote: MC> But as an analogy, that's one of the most ridiculous I've seen. Ever. 2/26/2005 10:51 AM Hi Mic, Seems right at home with some others that were offered. -- Take Care, Paul The Bat! v.3.0.2.10 on Win2k SP4 _

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2005-02-26 Thread Paul Van Noord
On 2/26/2005 David Calvarese wrote: DC> All we want is the option to be able to view it correctly DC> withough having to use a web browser, thus letting us reply to it if we DC> need/want to. 2/26/2005 10:57 AM Hi David, I have never been challenged to reply to an HTML message. What is the p

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2005-02-26 Thread Paul Van Noord
On 2/26/2005 Thomas Fernandez wrote: PVN>> They can selectively download attachments when circumstances PVN>> warrant it on a case by case basis. If the configuration files PVN>> are made inaccessible to the user so they are protected from PVN>> themselves, TF> Please do not protect *me* from mys

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2005-02-26 Thread Dennis Hays
Hello Mary, Saturday, February 26, 2005, 11:52:12 AM, you wrote: > Hello David! > On Saturday, February 26, 2005, 10:33 AM, you wrote: >>> The perfect option will be a button or something to load the images of >>> the current mail. And this should be made manually every time. --sni

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2005-02-26 Thread Cees
Het was op zaterdag 26 februari 2005 om 21:03 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'html whitelist wish' : Hallo Tony, GF>> Is it too much to have an option to enable full HTML support? TB> I'm going to make one last comment on this subject. For years most people TB> on this list have in the past

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2005-02-26 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : TB> Hello Goncalo, TB> A reminder of what Goncalo Farias on TBBETA typed on: TB> 26 February 2005 at 15:11:53 GMT +0100 GF>> Is it too much to have an option to enable full HTML support? TB> I'm going to make one last comment on this subject. For yea

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2005-02-26 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : TB> Hello Goncalo, TB> A reminder of what Goncalo Farias on TBBETA typed on: TB> 26 February 2005 at 15:17:47 GMT +0100 GF>> They want an enhanced version with what other clients have best, GF>> you seem to want a client tailored to your personal

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2005-02-26 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : TB> Hello Goncalo, TB> A reminder of what Goncalo Farias on TBBETA typed on: TB> 26 February 2005 at 15:20:50 GMT +0100 GF>> Users like you are of big prejudice for business, scaring customers GF>> away! TB> Boo! AAA... :) -- Best regar

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2005-02-26 Thread Ron Cameron
Hello Tony! On Saturday, February 26, 2005, 2:03 PM, you wrote: Tony> Hello Goncalo, Tony> The Bat html free... Where are they all now? They've all jumped ship and Tony> are now sitting firmly on the fence and it appears, I am the only one who Tony> is keeping true to my original convictions.

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2005-02-26 Thread Roger Phillips
Hello Tony, Saturday, February 26, 2005, 10:12:08 PM, among other things, you wrote: TB> Er no, I want The Bat as it is with all the bugs ironed out before any TB> completely new untested extras are added. TB> We've had this discussion in the past a dozen times, why add new things TB> that w

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2005-02-27 Thread NetVicious
sábado, 26 feb 2005 at 18:55, it seems you wrote: > That would be fine with me. Even just a checkbox in the prefs to > enable/disable the button's fuctionality and include/remove it from the > toolbar would be fine with me. In fact, it's a very good idea to make > it inactive completely unless s

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2005-02-27 Thread Paul Van Noord
2/27/2005 6:19 AM Hi Leif, On 2/26/2005 Leif Gregory wrote: LG> Happy Tony? Now you drug me into this! :-) Very well said! -- Take Care, Paul The Bat! v.3.0.2.10 on Win2k SP4 Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' inf

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2005-02-27 Thread Paul Van Noord
2/27/2005 6:29 AM Hi Mic, On 2/27/2005 Mic Cullen wrote: MC> If you have even a vague clue as to what you are doing, that statement is MC> utterly false. My monitor only shows 96 dpi, what is yours? -- Take Care, Paul The Bat! v.3.0.2.10 on Win2k SP4 _

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2005-02-27 Thread Paul Van Noord
2/27/2005 8:20 AM Hi Mary, On 2/27/2005 Mary Bull wrote: MB> This is so that I can protect myself from inadvertently putting a MB> graphics image into a message-text bodyin the View Folder window. MB> I am just one old-lady user. But I think perhaps there are others with MB> my needs using TB

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2005-02-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : A> Hi Paul, A> On 27/2/2005 6:21 AM, you wrote: A> At least not for the foreseeable future. Most clients with very A> good HTML mail displaying capabilities either use the IE rendering A> engine or are part of an established browser, i.e., Operamail

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2005-02-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : LG> If it's an e-mail function, then go for it. I'd just much rather LG> have RITLabs sink 200 hours into IMAP rather than HTML LG> functionality. IMAP belongs to e-mail, HTML doesn't. It's part of the new era. RITLabs surely won't straighten u

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2005-02-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : LG> Hi Goncalo, LG> On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, at 14:07:07 [GMT +] (which was 7:07 AM where LG> I live) you wrote: GF>> I'm sure you manage to get a better justification! LG> Let's expound a bit on this though Goncalo. Why exactly is it that LG> IE is so

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2005-02-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : GF>> the misuse of the technology they were providing. Now they made GF>> it more secure (not perfectly secure) without cutting down the GF>> functionality that people had. LG> Sure they did. MS hosts a page listing hundreds of applications LG> they

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2005-02-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : GF>> It's part of the new era. RITLabs surely won't straighten up the GF>> usage of email, they must go along with the major players and the GF>> major players do have GOOD HTML support. LG> So if your friend jumps off a bridge, you're going to do it too?

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2005-02-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : GF>> I really don't care about other users, I care about my needs and GF>> if I can accomplish them with the software I'm using. LG> Exactly the poor attitude Tony, Paul and I are trying to curtail. LG> The completely selfish, me first attitude. Let th

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2005-02-27 Thread Cees
Het was op zondag 27 februari 2005 om 18:19 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'html whitelist wish' : Hallo Greg, >> Cookidence... >> Tagline of the day: >> "deja moo," the feeling that you've heard this bull before. GS> ROFLMAO!!! Yeah! I stole that one immediately for my own taglinelist heh

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2005-02-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : DC> Goncalo Farias wrote: >> It's really easy then. They could provide us users a way to choose >> between the HTML internal engine or the IE engine. That way, everyone >> would be happy! :) DC> Err, Wouldn't using the IE Engine be a big security hole?

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2005-02-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : TB>> Also the reason I bowed out of the discussion. I want a bug free TB>> Bat before they make any new additions, they want html right now TB>> and Sod everyone else. TFC> Didnt you say earlier in the threat that this feature has been TFC> requested f

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2005-02-27 Thread Cees
Het was op zondag 27 februari 2005 om 18:34 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'html whitelist wish' : Hallo Greg, GS> Ok now you have me thinking. IIRC didn't you publish a quite lengthy GS> installation for the MyGate plugin or was it MailTraq? GS> If you used both which is better? as always I'm

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2005-02-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : GF>> Isn't it exactly the same attitude you're exhibiting? Did anyone GF>> mandate you to define what is allowable or not in email usage? GF>> What feature can or cannot be included? What alternatives to GF>> current features can be implemented or no

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2005-02-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : GF>> Yeah, right. With less then 2% of market share the last time I GF>> saw some statistics their must be very popular. LG> Yeah, Mozilla based browsers are sucking up some serious market LG> share. Mozilla is not related to Opera, the example given

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2005-02-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : TB> Hello Goncalo, TB> A reminder of what Goncalo Farias on TBBETA typed on: TB> 27 February 2005 at 19:48:59 GMT +0100 GF>> So, do me a favor, be part of the solution or else... TB> Oh dear, oh dear oh dear. Don't ya just love it when they get violen

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2005-02-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : TB> Hello Goncalo, TB> A reminder of what Goncalo Farias on TBBETA typed on: TB> 27 February 2005 at 20:05:59 GMT +0100 GF>> I said exactly what he said. If he wants to be part of the solution GF>> fine, if not, please step aside... TB> You don't

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2005-02-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : GF>> Sure I do. He is the moderator. Did I said anything offensive? I GF>> didn't call lemming to anyone, did I? TB> It's not the moderator part that you need to worry about. Why do TB> you think NO ONE else is arguing with him least of all me? I'll bet

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2005-02-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : TB> You bet wrong. I'm not risking that, that's for sure. Now I think it best TB> we change the subject. I don't know and it really doesn't matter much, after all we're just expressing our points of view. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias 73% of stat

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2005-02-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : GF>> I don't know and it really doesn't matter much, after all we're just GF>> expressing our points of view. TB> Just so long as it doesn't differ from his too much you should be OK now TB> drop it will you *please*! ahahahahaha... -- Best regards, G

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2005-02-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : TB> Hello Goncalo, TB> A reminder of what Goncalo Farias on TBBETA typed on: TB> 27 February 2005 at 20:53:00 GMT +0100 GF>> ahahahahaha... TB> You laugh all you want but I have a wife and family whom I love very much TB> and I'm certainly not going

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2005-02-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : DC> Tony Boom wrote: >> Hello Leif, >> Also the reason I bowed out of the discussion. I want a bug free Bat >> before they make any new additions, they want html right now and Sod >> everyone else. DC> I don't think any of us said it had to be 'right now

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2005-02-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : DC>> I don't think any of us said it had to be 'right now' And as I've DC>> said before, I agree that bug fixes should come first. TB> I know, and you are right, html should be available for those that TB> want it. But can you see my point? Those of us tha

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2005-02-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : GF>> Old soldiers never die, TB> They just go on and on and on about the war :) Hmmm... I better start signing my emails! :) -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Blessed our young they will inherit our national debt. __

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2005-02-27 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : TB> Hello The, TB> A reminder of what The Final Cut on TBBETA typed on: TB> 27 February 2005 at 21:44:40 GMT +0100 TFC>> hahahaha I hope you are not serious! TB> Do you see me laughing? TB> Can you see his rouge image? That little boy he's just abo

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2005-02-27 Thread Cees
Het was op zondag 27 februari 2005 om 22:13 uur dat jij iets schreef over 'html whitelist wish' : Hallo Tony, GF>> ui ui ui estou a tremer cheio de medo! TB> Sorry, don't speak Klingon. whahahahahaa.. :-)) -- regards, Cees Coming soon: Windows for Nintendo!

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2005-03-01 Thread Goncalo Farias
In reply to : KT> Hello Goncalo, KT> On Sunday, February 27, 2005 you wrote: >> Why not integrate, as an option, the IE engine into the TB? You >> don't want to use it, fine, stick with internal render engine. >> People who don't mind do as they want to. KT> No

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2005-03-02 Thread Paul Van Noord
3/1/2005 9:50 PM Hi Leif, On 2/27/2005 Leif Gregory wrote: LG> Hi Goncalo, LG> On Sun, 27 Feb 2005, at 17:01:39 [GMT +] (which was 10:01 AM where LG> I live) you wrote: GF>> I really don't care about other users, I care about my needs and GF>> if I can accomplish them with the software I'm

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2005-03-02 Thread Paul Van Noord
3/1/2005 9:33 PM Hi Leif, On 2/27/2005 Leif Gregory wrote: LG> Hi Goncalo, GF>> If it's something you can switch on or off then you're in no more GF>> danger than being alive. GF>> I'm sure you manage to get a better justification! LG> People in general do need to be protected from themselve

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2005-03-02 Thread Paul Van Noord
3/1/2005 10:13 PM Hi The, On 2/27/2005 The Final Cut wrote: TFC> Pocomail, incredimail, eurora, Express plus are all email TFC> clients that their programmers don't code browsers TFC> they all have great html supports too! Duh, they use IE. -- Take Care, Paul The Bat! v.3.0.2.10 on Win2k SP

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2005-03-02 Thread Paul Van Noord
3/1/2005 10:00 PM Hi Tony, On 2/27/2005 Tony Boom wrote: TB> In an ideal world yes, but you tick the box for one message and forget to TB> untick it, what happens then? Achilles and all his mates come charging in. TB> How about a button on the header pane that works on a per message basis.

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2005-03-02 Thread Paul Van Noord
3/1/2005 10:06 PM Hi Mic, On 2/27/2005 Mic Cullen wrote: MC> The same, but my statement stands: if you have any idea as to what you're doing, MC> the downsized output from a higher quality quality camera is going to be better MC> than from a cheaper one. I don't think this is much of a stretc