Mod: Top Posting (was: Fwd: Re: Spam)

2003-09-27 Thread Allie Martin
Paul Berger, [PB] wrote: PB> This leaves everything else to sit in the InBox. Here you can giv it PB> a quick glance before deleting the lot. Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this repl

Re: Why MyGate with TB!?

2003-09-25 Thread Thomas Martin
Hello Thomas, On Thursday, 25. September 2003, at 22:53:46 [GMT +0700] you wrote: >> I just find it so much more convenient to have it all in one place - >> both mail & news, so I just (after discovering MyGate - thanks to >> Miguel from Spain, and the author - Andrew - from Bulgaria) use Bat!

Re: PGP/Mime and extra line feed on TBOT

2003-09-24 Thread Martin Webster
a tad pedantic, but helps to clarify the logic. Yes, you're correct. This is a remnant from copying a template from TBUDL (my earlier example was from TBOT). For this list I use: %NOPGPMIME%- %USEPGP%SIGNCOMPLETE%- Although I see you use PGP/MIME on TBUDL. Anyway, I will amend my TBOT templ

Re: PGP/Mime and extra line feed on TBOT

2003-09-24 Thread Martin Webster
GP/Mime off in the MB> Privacy menu of the Edit Mail Message window and, in addition, uncheck MB> the boxes related to PGP in Account/Properties/Options? Add the following to your folder template: %NOPGPMIME% %NOSIGNCOMPLETE%- - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00.6 (Window

Re: Messages in Outbox sent by accident

2003-09-23 Thread Martin Webster
; in account properties. You click Send and then confirm... hows that? I guess this only works if Delivery is set to immediate. - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00.6 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP3Cn4Fv+PP

Re: new mail at top/bottom

2003-09-23 Thread Martin Webster
know one or the other probably had kg> to be decided on - I'm just curious what other TB users are doing. Newest on top. Have it that way in Outlook (at work) and think it's the norm. I'm sure KMail does it this way too. - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00.6 (Windows XP P

Re: Selective download / filter

2003-09-22 Thread Allie Martin
Douglas Hinds, [DH] wrote: DH> I use it to avoid viruses as well as a trigger for following up on DH> important mail. I don't want to be checking my high number of DH> mailbox directories and don't use the ticker for the same reason: DH> The fact is, most of my mail is never read. You seem to spe

Re: Adding a memo to message

2003-09-22 Thread Martin Webster
it. Thanks, could be very useful. I quite like Miguel's suggestion. I've selected Memo Auto-view and placed the floating window on the right hand side of the preview pane. Most messages wrap nicely at around 70 characters so there's plenty of room. - -- Best regards, Martin Webs

Re: Adding a memo to message

2003-09-22 Thread Martin Webster
me ago? ;-) Right-click on the columns and add the memo field. - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00.6 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP296X1v+PP8p0/caEQLJzQCg426ibavl1Gs3Xf76AanR35ILQBoAoLaj xDuAiyAp+7DI57BlZVLmQgc4 =F5v5 --

Re: Upgrade Questions

2003-09-22 Thread Martin Webster
ave to change it, it's a one time JA> change, and you should be done. The default setting is for plain text. - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00.6 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP29h6lv+PP8p0/caEQKhbACgwuP7

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2003-09-22 Thread Martin Webster
attachment icon. Is this a bug? Is it already known? - -- Best regards, Martin Webster http://www.martinwebster.info/ The Bat! 2.00.6 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP29AJFv+PP8p0/caEQL6VgCbBmwk+SfMrUl5yeRBzKyHmBIsQWoAoImr

Re: config files?

2003-09-22 Thread Martin Webster
Anyway, the settings you refer to are not in a flat file. They're in the registry. MT> -- MT> Regards, MT> Matt BTW, your signature is missing a space after the two dashes. - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00.6 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATU

Re: messages not sending

2003-09-21 Thread Allie Martin
Rich Gregory, [RG] wrote: RG> I have a problem where I cannot send mssgs even though I have RG> them queued in the outbox. I have tried opening them and sending RG> both via the send now button and the pull down option. I have tried RG> right-clicking the outbox and selecting send queued mail op

Re: Open pgp version support

2003-09-21 Thread Allie Martin
Melissa Reese, [MR] wrote: MR> I purchased v8.x when it was first released, and at that point, it MR> was only available via download. I'm pretty sure this is still the MR> case. It would seem that the PGP v8 download is restricted only to paying customers at www.pgp.com . I was just there during

Re: Open pgp version support

2003-09-21 Thread Allie Martin
Barry Wilkinson, [BW] wrote: BW> I have just upgraded to pgp 6.5.8ckt but I'm still experiencing the BW> same problems. Also sending a pgp encrypted message still reports my BW> version as 6.5i. Curious? PGP 6.5.8ckt build8 and later comes packaged with its own TB! plug-in DLL. Try using the PGP

Re: Disabling PGP mime support

2003-09-21 Thread Allie Martin
Deborah W, [DW] wrote: DW> What does the option in Account Properties - Options do then? Or is DW> it different in v2? Those are the options to enable S/MIME, OpenPGP and sign/encrypt when complete options. Those options have nothing to do with PGP/MIME specifically. -- -= allie_M =- | List Mo

Re: FIlters in V2 IMAP

2003-09-21 Thread Martin Webster
in creating filters. Just have to wait for the next version or convert the IMAP account to POP3. - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00.6 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP23VmVv+PP8p0/caEQLg4wCeIC3PnqP+XaV5Lmf8

Re: Disabling PGP mime support

2003-09-21 Thread Allie Martin
Andrew Hodgson, [AH] wrote: MDP>> Use the %NOPGPMIME macro in your template for those lists. AH> Thanks, is there any way to disable it globally? No, there isn't. TB! is stuck in auto-PGP/MIME mode. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp

Re: Open pgp version support

2003-09-21 Thread Allie Martin
Andrew Hodgson, [AH] wrote: AH> What are the differences between the native PGP support in TB, The native support that PGP offers is PGP v2.6. When using this, you'll be restricted to using only RSA keys. Most of us use the newer DH/DSS keys so you'd not be able to verify our signatures or use ou

Re: Open pgp version support

2003-09-21 Thread Allie Martin
Michael Thompson, [MT] wrote: MT> www.pgpi.com MT> www.pgp.com These are the URL's to obtain official PGP versions. You'll not find the ckt builds there. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature _

Re: Open pgp version support

2003-09-21 Thread Allie Martin
Barry Wilkinson, [BW] wrote: BW> Should I upgrade pgp to version 8? That's what I'd personally recommend. Another option would be to go the route of using GnuPG and GPGShell. There's also the PGP 6.5.8ckt builds. I don't know where you could get a copy of the latest build 8. -- -= allie_M =-

Re: URL not clickable

2003-09-21 Thread Allie Martin
Anne, [A] wrote: A> I did mention the problem of non-clickable links a while back to A> which Marck replied here, A> mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - I wonder if A> next week's changes (see Stefan's post) will resolve this? If A> not, I think it's a bug. Upon reading that message, the URL is understandab

Re: MyGate & Bat! Content Type Header

2003-09-20 Thread Martin Webster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello John, JP> He told me he doesn't drink, but that he would appreciate it if you JP> bought me some instead! ;-) Nice try. :-} - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00.6 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PG

Re: Blocking Bat mail

2003-09-19 Thread Martin Webster
(plural). - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00.6 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP2r6DFv+PP8p0/caEQLKFwCgsgrAmWZ2I4FjPzyDKEYAg6icn10An0HI Nu2H3OycANcwT6iPBqnvnTui =HIHp -END PGP S

Re: MyGate & Bat! Content Type Header

2003-09-19 Thread Martin Webster
s time? Expect version 2.5 sometime this weekend. - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00.6 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP2r5O1v+PP8p0/caEQIPbQCgmDnqPBKGw+GLJK0vyOdGytAvAB0An0uE ewppVdysKZiqB4q+UrSe+Oq/ =xZHg -E

Re: Signing outgoing mail

2003-09-18 Thread Thomas Martin
Hello Granville, On Friday, 19. September 2003, at 01:45:11 [GMT +0100] you wrote: > how do I set my AVG AntiVirus plug-in to sign my outgoing emails as > Virus Free. I notice that some of the emails that I receive are > signed in this way. Is it something that I enable from somewhere in > The B

Re: Macro help needed - Thanks!

2003-09-18 Thread Martin Webster
you don't want the newline to appear in the MDP> generated text. Thanks, very helpful. - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00.6 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP2oz

Re: Macro help needed - Thanks!

2003-09-18 Thread Martin Webster
ED]>' And while I'm here a couple more macro questions: How do you define the prefix; e.g. MDP? Each macro seems to add an extra line to the message. How can I avoid this? Do you have to string them altogether? - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00.6 (Windows XP Professiona

Re: someone use v2 on NT4?

2003-09-17 Thread Martin Webster
gt; packs. Wy should they? It only cost time and money... Do these companies leave their doors open when they go home at night too? May just as well. Not addressing security vulnerabilities is rather short sighted, foolhardy, and potentially _very_ expensive. - -- Best regards, Martin Webster

Re: PGP and attached files

2003-09-16 Thread Allie Martin
Sean Stark, [SS] wrote: SS> I just tried that. Everything works smoothly from TheBat's side. But SS> then the recipient (who is using Outlook-2000) gets an email that has SS> has a completely empty body and 2 attachments. (called ATT31902.ATT, SS> and ATT31903.ATT). Hitting the Decrypt/Verify butt

Re: Message create date

2003-09-16 Thread Martin Webster
import Eudora's address book into Outlook Express and then use OE to create an LDIF file, which TB! can use. Alternatively, you could use Netscape instead of OE for the intermediate step. As for Pegasus... only tab delimited files can be exported (there is another but this is native to Pega

Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

2003-09-15 Thread Allie Martin
Thomas Fernandez, [TF] wrote: TF> The latter is because I might use it the way you indicate, but not TF> always, so... ;-) It's a great way to keep a cookie file growing. I also use it to edit my mass mailing template. I save occasional clips of text that I wish to keep. In fact, in all my use

Re: More SmartBat/Scheduler monkeybusiness

2003-09-15 Thread Allie Martin
Thomas Fernandez, [TF] wrote: TF> Yes, it will delete the file manually, using Windows functions that TF> way. Or any other way. The point is, TB should delete the file TF> automatically. If so, then optional please. If no option, then leave as is. I've been using it as a means to edit certain te

Re: PGP and attached files

2003-09-15 Thread Allie Martin
Sean Stark, [SS] wrote: SS> I'm sending an email with an attachment. I pick SHFT-ALT-E (Sign and SS> encyrpt entire message). The message gets encrypted but not the SS> attachment. PGP/Mime is set to Auto. Under "PGP Options" use SS> PGP/Mime when sending emails is ticked. SS> Does anyone know wh

Re: Version 2

2003-09-15 Thread Allie Martin
Rich Gregory, [RG] wrote: RG> PS the subject of this thread has now become something other than RG> the originally intended question about v2 features. At what point RG> does one change the subject? Whenever you think it appropriate. I read all messages so I at times, inadvertently ignore the sub

Re: someone use v2 on NT4?

2003-09-15 Thread Martin Webster
I'm still having that AV with v2. A quick search of my archive shows a few using version 2 with Windows NT. WM> -- WM> Rgds, Wilfried BTW, your new message template is missing a space after the "--" in your signature. Your reply template looks okay. M - -- Best regards, M

Re: Periodic mail checking annoyance

2003-09-15 Thread Martin Webster
the search works with hours and minutes either. M - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00.6 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP2X7xFv+PP8p0/caEQKyyQCgrphS8dXK0x6g1fz4bi1NVALZI4UAoNIQ 6Ju

Re: Periodic mail checking annoyance

2003-09-15 Thread Martin Webster
nced filtering... it would be great to have options for "Messages older than" n days, hours, minutes etc. M - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00.6 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP2Xy0Fv+PP8p0/ca

Re: Version 2

2003-09-15 Thread Allie Martin
Etm, [E] wrote: E> I have been using K9 for spam control. Is the new version of TB E> going to give me the same spam/junk control? You can continue using K9 with v2. E> Do I need to train the TB control as I have trained K9? The antispam controls you see in v2 require a plug-in. One is current

Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

2003-09-15 Thread Martin Webster
end. M - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00.6 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP2Vsulv+PP8p0/caEQLLUACffHzAViSFLn9ANvAiVVC2S558woMAoNgW TD2kFSxZ7yhKCmSq+D8JWoss =Y8v9 -END PGP SIGNAT

Re: Install v.2 along side v.1.6x?

2003-09-14 Thread Allie Martin
Pmf, [P] wrote: P> I'll be getting new PC with XP soon, but right now am still using P> 98SE. Since it's all or nothing, what do I need to do to be able to P> go back to 1.6x if need be? Why not do a full system backup now and then upgrade. If you don't like what's happening, then restore your o

Re: Page fault error - TB won't start -> Discovery!

2003-09-14 Thread Martin Webster
dm.zip. I found a similar problem too; see <mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (TBBETA). I briefly see the splash screen and TB! dies with no warning. No solution either as far as I can see... unless I've missed something. M -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00.

Re: Only $17.50!

2003-09-14 Thread Martin Webster
-) M - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00.6 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP2RX8Fv+PP8p0/caEQLwJACbBAYzcmwEaEytVYvc9SBE/psGTqQAniTE DmbyLKNP/m/UX0av8/pPpA5h =yK7/ -EN

Re: Only $17.50!

2003-09-14 Thread Allie Martin
Pmf, [P] wrote: P> I have a lot of software now, especially for my Web site, for which I P> pay an annual subscription fee. We all hate that idea, don't we? In P> the end, though, I think it's the only business model that will keep P> small software developers (that is, anyone not Microsoft) in P>

Re: Install v.2 along side v.1.6x?

2003-09-14 Thread Allie Martin
Pmf, [P] wrote: P> So version 2 has at long last arrived. I'd like to get a look at it, P> but would also like to keep my trusted 1.6x version. Can I install P> v.2 along side my current version? Not unless you're using a multi-user system on Win2k/XP. You could logon as another user, install v2

Re: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?

2003-09-13 Thread Allie Martin
Pixie, [P] wrote: P> Having noticed you as a Guru early on when I got on this list, :) Not really one as such.. I just like automation, hence why TB! and PowerPro so much appeal to me. I've been using them for a long time and have benefited a lot from support from others and my own perseverance,

Re: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?

2003-09-13 Thread Allie Martin
Vishal, [V] wrote: AM>> It need not look *identical* in the majority of instances. V> Proportional fonts could accomplish that equally well, I suppose, if V> hard line breaks were put in like in MicroEd. Plus they'd look better V> at my end. Yes. AM>> For example, say I wish to split a quoted p

Re: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?

2003-09-13 Thread Allie Martin
Vishal, [V] wrote: V> You're right..it's not. I posted earlier that automatic checks don't V> work even with no firewall in place. AM>> What other software are you running. Are you running anti-virus software AM>> that does POP3 scanning? V> Symantec Antivirus version 8. As of yesterday, BlackIC

Re: Viewing the source

2003-09-12 Thread Martin Webster
d where in the options to change this. Can PJ> someone please direct me? I presume you mean the mail headers? If so, try the View menu and un-check RFC-822 headers. PJ> -- PJ> Pat BTW, you need a space after the "--"; i.e. "-- " to display signatures correctly. M

Re: RSS Feeds via IMAP

2003-09-12 Thread Martin Webster
. . . ... I think it is! It's okay now. :-) M - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00.6 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP2HP2lv+PP8p0/caEQIT4ACeIac9l6vP/+pbCM465W0cyIrBTJgAn0jJ 4MtMZtctcIyjOupO0gctMovO =fu3a -EN

Re: Slow Downloading of Messages

2003-09-12 Thread Allie Martin
Kim, [K] wrote: K> I always check my messages on the server before downloading them. K> Getting the messages listed in Control Centre is not a problem. Those K> list rather quickly, and seem to be nothing out of the ordinary. K> However, when downloading those messages (and deleting them from the

Re: v2 compatible with older version?

2003-09-11 Thread Allie Martin
Mau, [M] wrote: M> Agree, but it has always been my policy (for any software I use for M> work) to NOT upgrade as soon as a new version is released. I usually M> wait until it is a bit more "polished" and stable :) Is there such a thing with TB!? The reason I wonder is because I have trouble reca

Re: Wrapping recieved mail correctly

2003-09-11 Thread Allie Martin
David R. Austen, [DRA] wrote: DRA> I am now using Januk Aggarwal's excellent wrap templates DRA> http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/Library.html#rewrap DRA> (%QINCLUDE="wq") DRA> for (replies and forwards) and also hope to accomplish wrapping on DRA> redirects, too. (Ideas?) FWIW, I use redirect

Re: Re-filtering

2003-09-11 Thread Allie Martin
Razgo, [R] wrote: R> for some reason when using re-filter for my inbox it will not filter R> all the messages that need filtering. it will filter all but only R> process 13 or 19 and i have to keep re filtering it. currently using R> 2.00.6 but it has been occurring with all versions i use. If th

Re: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?

2003-09-10 Thread Allie Martin
Vishal, [V] wrote: V> You think any ZA remnants might be responsible for my automatic V> checking still not working? Do keep in mind that Allie last used ZA V> over a year ago, version 2.6 I think. This is 4.0 Pro. I'm wondering if it's ZA at all. :/ What other software are you running. Are you

Re: Scheduler - reasons to go V2

2003-09-10 Thread Allie Martin
Vishal, [V] wrote: V> Hear hear. I'd *really* like to see some nice complicated things that V> people do with TB. I'm sure there are people here who can us better V> ways to handle our email. If you have your own domain, you can accurately tell, based on the In-Reply-To header which messages are

Re: HTML as default on v2.00 ...........?

2003-09-10 Thread Allie Martin
Dave Kennedy, [DK] wrote: DK> That is such a great point! (I wish I had made it. :) ) DK> We techies so often forget that our view of the world is different DK> than the typical end user. And you know why? We are in the know and they're not. :) We know the problems with HTML and they don't. Th

Re: HTML as default on v2.00 ...........?

2003-09-10 Thread Allie Martin
David Boggon, [DB] wrote: DB> With respect, the way a thing is presented is never usually the DB> responsibility of the person to whom it is presented. We are always DB> presenting ourselves and what we do in a particular way, whether we DB> (or anyone else) likes it or not. Hmmm. I usually try t

Re: HTML as default on v2.00 ...........?

2003-09-10 Thread Allie Martin
David Boggon, [DB] wrote: DB> My point was that one should look at the facts, Many seem to resist the facts of the matter. :/ We speak about bandwidth, problems with accurate reproducability at the recipients end, the fact that the recipient is forced to read using fonts and font sizing that the

Re: Wrapping recieved mail correctly

2003-09-10 Thread Allie Martin
Jamie Dainton, [JD] wrote: JD> It seems some mail clients are incapable of wrapping mails at a JD> sensible limit. Now as I'm viewing TB! at 1600x1200 an unwrapped JD> mail line is very long. Is it possible to set the viewer to force JD> the mail to wrap at 80 columns? Oh how I wish for that feat

Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

2003-09-10 Thread Martin Webster
I could see. I don't think so... A small list of public NNTP servers http://theone.ru/news.html Aaron's Free News Servers http://www.newsservers.net/ - From these I found... news://news.uni-rostock.de/ news://post.newsfeeds.com/ news://freenews.netfront.net M - -- Best regards, Martin

Re: MyGate, newsgroups with TB made easy

2003-09-10 Thread Martin Webster
you can recommend a newsserver that works without TF> subscription, please let me know and I will subscribe to an NG and try TF> MyGate out along with you. You may find something here: http://www.gotobiz.co.uk/g/param/Computers/Usenet/Public_News_Servers/. M - -- Best regards, Martin Webster Th

Re: Message list headings

2003-09-10 Thread Allie Martin
Mau, [M] wrote: M> Please take a look at: http://perso.wanadoo.es/murech/threads.htm M> Does this happen also on V2.0? No, it doesn't. The colour groups names are displayed as they should be. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp De

Re: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?

2003-09-10 Thread Allie Martin
Vishal, [V] wrote: V> Well, as it will be sent, yes. At the other (receiving) end, messages V> written in microEd using, say, Courier New, appear different when V> viewed with a default font such as Verdana. Yes. You'll never really be able to get away from this. This is why a lot of editors will

Deleting Quote sign Macro for TB 2.x

2003-09-09 Thread Thomas Martin
Hello TB List, this was the old QT for deleting quote signs, can somebody write it new for TB 2.x ,- [ QQ ] | %REM=_Nachricht in Kommentarmakro kopieren_%- | %COMMENT='%text'%- | %REM=_Vorlage QQ2 aufrufen_%- | %QINCLUDE="qq2"%- `- ,- [ QQ2 ] | %IF:"%- | %- | %SETPATTREGEXP='(?

Re: HTML as default on v2.00 ...........?

2003-09-09 Thread Allie Martin
David Boggon, [DB] wrote: DB> Having said all this, if it really is an issue of principle, I DB> applaude TB! for not selling out. The purist attitude to me does DB> seem a little groupy, though ... and I wonder how sustainable it is DB> in reality. The direction of conventions/standards as these

Re: Why base64 encoding in 2.0?

2003-09-09 Thread Allie Martin
Edvinas Matiušaitis, [EM] wrote: AM>> Another trigger for conversion to base64 is the presence of trailing AM>> spaces. One such trailing space is in our signature delimiter. EM> Any reason why those trailing spaces trigger that? It's done in order to preserve those trailing spaces, maintaining

Re: HTML as default on v2.00 ...........?

2003-09-09 Thread Allie Martin
David Boggon, [DB] wrote: DB> Am I missing something, or is it not possible for the HTML editor in DB> v2.00 to be set as the default? It's not possible. DB> I was expecting much fuller HTML editing support in v2.00 ... i.e. DB> HTML default editor & HTML templates. HTML mail really aught to be

Re: Why base64 encoding in 2.0?

2003-09-09 Thread Allie Martin
Dave Kennedy, [DK] wrote: DK> Apparently not all the time. F9 on your message showed the sig DK> delimiter as '--=20' - that's dash-dash-equal-two-zero. I have forced TB! here to use quoted printable. I did so via the account options encoding. I prefer quoted printable to base64 since it's readab

Re: Why base64 encoding in 2.0?

2003-09-09 Thread Allie Martin
Edvinas Matiušaitis, [EM] wrote: EM> - When signing to PGP/MIME The Bat! is always converting to base64. EM> Even in cases when message body consist entirely of 7 bits EM> characters and should not be converted. Another trigger for conversion to base64 is the presence of trailing spaces. One such

Re: Message list headings

2003-09-09 Thread Allie Martin
Thomas Fernandez, [TF] wrote: >> I would like to add "color groups" to all my headings with out >> having to define in each folder. TF> I'm not sure I know what you mean, but try the above. TB! has supported a column that displays the message colour group for quite some time now. You can then e

Re: Edit incoming messages shortcut?

2003-09-09 Thread Allie Martin
Sean H., [SH] wrote: SH> Thanks Allie! That's not the exact message I was looking for (the SH> one I remember was from over 6 months ago at least) but I think I'll SH> be able to get it to work using your instructions. Just need to SH> translate it to Win9x speak... If you're having problems plea

Re: Edit incoming messages shortcut?

2003-09-08 Thread Allie Martin
Sean H., [SH] wrote: SH> A while back, someone posted instructions for creating a keyboard SH> shortcut that exported a message to a temp file, called an external SH> editor for editing the message, then re-imported the file to the SH> inbox. I found this incredibly useful, but somehow lost the sh

Re: Two thougths

2003-09-08 Thread Allie Martin
Jack Morrison, [JM] wrote: JM> When copying or moving a message from one folder to another, JM> sometimes the message *count* in the receiving folder doesn't change JM> until after you close and then re-open TB. I see this as well. However, simply selecting the folder updates the count here. --

Re: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?

2003-09-07 Thread Allie Martin
Carsten Guthardt-Schulz, [CGS] wrote: CGS> I didn't say either one. What I made were much more general statements. CGS> That's why it doesn't help that you pick on the details: Even if the CGS> two-editor solution was a good one (what we could argue about) - that was CGS> just an example, not my s

Re: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?

2003-09-07 Thread Allie Martin
Carsten Guthardt-Schulz, [CGS] wrote: CGS> Or you could say they both have a problem. They point is that they CGS> could have either made the editor customizable enough or allow an CGS> external editor, instead of adding a second one. They looked at the customisation of MicroEd, found it to be to

Re: System for archiving

2003-09-07 Thread Martin Webster
to have a different model for how you'll be operating. What I really would like is some way of automating the archiving process. A> The archiving topic has turned up a lot on TBUDL. But mostly they A> recommended MA. And the within-TB solutions were not terribly well A> described. So I felt

Re: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?

2003-09-07 Thread Allie Martin
Mau, [M] wrote: M> Do you know if all macros and QTs used in 1.62 will work just the M> same in 2.0 or some may need to be "adapted"? Some will need to be changed. One of the popular ones that needs changing is the boxquoting macro. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-mart

Re: Max number of stored messages in a folder

2003-09-07 Thread Martin Webster
always schedule TB! to shutdown and restart (assuming you have Me/2000/XP). BTW, your signature block is incorrect; you should use "-- " not "--". M - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00.6 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Versio

Re: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?

2003-09-07 Thread Allie Martin
Carsten Guthardt-Schulz, [CGS] wrote: CGS> Almost forgot one more on that subject: In the editor (even the new CGS> one!) the View/Original Text option is still completely useless in CGS> most cases, because the windows doesn't momorize the size of the CGS> window part with the original text. Thi

Re: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?

2003-09-07 Thread Allie Martin
Carsten Guthardt-Schulz, [CGS] wrote: AM>> What line wrap bug? Are you speaking of MicroEd here? CGS> Yes, I was. Would make sense to fix it, especially as the CGS> alternative editor doesn't have this problem, Neither editor has a problem where this is concerned. One works differently from the

Re: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?

2003-09-07 Thread Allie Martin
Carsten Guthardt-Schulz, [CGS] wrote: CGS> - The differences between 1.62 (especially 1.63beta) Stop there. 1.63beta was not a release version. It's unfair to compare v2 to it when speaking of upgrades. CGS> and 2.0 are not that huge after all. There are many differences. If you aren't interest

Re: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?

2003-09-07 Thread Allie Martin
Etm, [E] wrote: E> Sorry, folks, have now read today's thread, realize I freaked and E> panicked, that some here are considering what I am considering, a E> buy-now, use-later. How flakey is the new release? I wouldn't describe the new release as flakey if all you use are POP3 accounts. It's just

Re: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?

2003-09-07 Thread Martin Webster
Ritlabs to the site owner) ... a little late for me. Unless I can donate my free upgrade to someone else... M - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP1thh1v+PP8p0/caEQIdjQCgjQfdFUmP

Re: System for archiving

2003-09-07 Thread Martin Webster
to keep my C:\ drive small enough to fit on 3 CD/Rs. The archive folders are available from TB! too - I find it much better at managing my archive that Mailbag Assistant. M - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-

Re: System tray icon

2003-09-07 Thread Martin Webster
etting somewhere in V2 which I need to adjust GM> to get back that useful indicator of unread mail? There's an option under Preferences->General. This behaviour also occurs when explorer.exe crashes and restarts. M - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00 (Windows XP Professiona

Re: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?

2003-09-07 Thread Allie Martin
Martin Webster, [MW] wrote: MW> The opportunity to upgrade at a discounted price is great. Moreover, MW> I'm supporting further development of my preferred mail client. So MW> $17.50 seems a rather small investment considering the likely number MW> of updates and improve

Re: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?

2003-09-07 Thread Martin Webster
elopment of my preferred mail client. So $17.50 seems a rather small investment considering the likely number of updates and improvements yet to come. M - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3

Re: The Bat! v2 Upg Price of $17.50 until October 31, then what?

2003-09-07 Thread Allie Martin
Jamie Dainton, [JD] wrote: JD> I will agree with you on that point. The short time limit to upgrade JD> does seem a little unfair. However, RITLabs are under no obligation JD> to give a discount for an upgrade, so in reality they are actually JD> being fairer than they have to be. The 50% discoun

Re: Deleting read messages based on age

2003-09-07 Thread Allie Martin
Michael Thompson, [MT] wrote: MT> Is it possible to automatically delete *only* read messages after so MT> many days? Not directly. If doing this means a lot to you and you're willing to do it in an indirect way then you could park all incoming messages and then use a read filter to unpark the me

Re: Menu navigator?

2003-09-07 Thread Allie Martin
Günter Minnerup, [GM] wrote: GM> Interesting. Now I'll have to think of a menu item to test it :-) If you don't like it, you can disable it via the Preferences/General options. -- -= allie_M =- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://www.ac-martin.com/pgpkeys.html _ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP s

Re: Alt-F6 does not start the scheduler

2003-09-05 Thread Martin Webster
he same application; e.g. the main window and search box in Notepad. Does that work correctly? M - -- Best regards, Martin Webster The Bat! 2.00 (Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.0.2 iQA/AwUBP1jCTFv+PP8p0/caEQJqrgCfVnebulhZ/gT+paUfd7CKWg5AiYAA

Re: Change FROM and/or REPLYTO with template or macro?

2003-09-04 Thread Allie Martin
Thebat, [T] wrote: T> I have several IMAP accounts set up under The Bat! v2.00. I also make T> liberal use of e-mail aliases. I would like some easy way to T> programatically change the FROM or REPLYTO addresses when I send an T> e-mail so that the e-mail appears to come from one of my alias T> ad

Re: Spam

2003-09-04 Thread Allie Martin
David R. Austen, [DRA] wrote: DRA> Naturally that challenge message needs to be very diplomatic. DRA> Nobody has ever eventually mentioned to me that they found that DRA> offensive. And they receive it only once, at worst. I generally don't tell others I'm displeased or annoyed by something unles

Re: Spam

2003-09-04 Thread Allie Martin
David R. Austen, [DRA] wrote: DRA> CM asks those senders with a friendly message (that I myself have DRA> written) to state their business. Less than 1% of spammers ever do. I've been annoyed by this sort of system. Rule #1 in spam fighting. Don't lose legitimate mail and don't get in the way of

Re: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?

2003-09-04 Thread Allie Martin
o use and makes it possible for me to use it with other clients like my newsreader. - TB!'s templates are now indispensable to me. In my pre-TB! days, I used basically one signature since doing otherwise would be a tedious task. I'd also use a single identity in that all mail would be

Re: Received Date - Weird!

2003-09-03 Thread Allie Martin
Bareges, [B] wrote: B> Anyone else spotted this stramge behaviour? How can I {at least with B> this particular example} have received it at a time earlier than it B> was created although 34 years into the future!! B> Any obvious cure? Have you checked your system date and time? The received time

Mod: Top Posting (was: How to register -- page not found?)

2003-09-03 Thread Allie Martin
Archy, [A] wrote: A> try this one, It works for me Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out ArchY. This posting violated the list rules regarding top

Re: The Bat 2: a first glance ... and ... a disapointment

2003-09-03 Thread Allie Martin
Clemens Schwaighofer, [CS] wrote: CS> well because I use TheBat since a very long time I really looked CS> forward to the Version 2. why? full IMAP support, well it has and it CS> looks good, full Multi Language Support, means Japanese CS> (ISO-2022-JP, Chinese, Korean, etc) ... but no, same bad t

Re: zonealarm and automatic mail checks - works for anyone?

2003-09-03 Thread Allie Martin
Vishal, [V] wrote: V> So could you suggest someone who has? It would be a big help. I've had problems. When I did, the problems weren't restricted to just TB!, though they initially started with TB! after having no problems for some time before. My problems progressed to complete blocks of my int

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