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that you may find your NAS underpowered for running SBS, but I'm not
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your message to people who can do something about it.
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Sometimes, but it's pretty rare where I am. Europe tends to have a lot
more problems, especially during holiday periods. And on the rare
occasions that I've had mysb.com problems I've usually been able to
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Other players would also include Transporters. And you're correct that
a Touch couldn't stream 24/96 to a SB3/Classic, because the SB3/Classic
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Aubuti,
Thanks for the reply. Now I am getting my head spun around. The
Router has to be capable of better performance even if the SBS is
stored on a NAS? Man I had no idea! I was under the impression that
using a normal NAS connected via ethernet meant the SBS
(Network Attached _Storage_), but simply not up
to the task of running an audio server.
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on Linux then you can run mp3tag under
Wine, or use puddletag, which is a freeware native Linux tagging
program that has features similar to mp3tag.
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or event that
triggers TinySBS to start. Any ideas?
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your time fixing tags, then dBpoweramp is well worth it. There is a
30-day free trial -- use it for ripping a dozen CDs or so and see if
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I have no insider information, but I would have to say that EOL'ing the
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understandable mistake. That is the Touch's
built-in server that is not running, not the SBS running on your PC. If
you want to reconnect your Touch from mysb to SBS running on your pc, on
the Touch's screen go to Home My Music and you will be prompted to
connect to your pc.
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are using the Touch's built-in server
(TinySBS) then you can't control it via the web ui.
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internet (Google) tv may incorporate SBS. Or maybe one of the Revue's
offspring, if there ever are any.
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necessarily as an ultimate answer). And then, if at all possible, once
you get it working don't restore WEP, but switch your wireless to WPA.
WEP is trivial to hack, and now you're getting the worst of both
worlds: SB setup problems without any real security benefit.
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to different SBs, or send the same stream to multiple SBs and have them
play in perfect sync. It's comparing apples and grapefruit.
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indirect consequence
is that the lack of space on the disk will aversely affect other
operations. As the disk in question is C: that could cause a lot of
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nice thread that gets at
what the key variables for success with TinySBS are. It's worth a read,
and is likely to be helpful even when running 7.6:
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big breakthroughs with TinySBS that will suddenly pull more performance
out of the existing hardware.
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where the variable isn't the codec (MP3 vs FLAC), but instead brand of
USB stick, file system format, and SBS release. All of which proves
nothing but the already well-established fact that it's not working for
you.
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alone with these problems, there are also many who aren't having them.
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you edit tags (in good tagging programs this is an
option that can be turned on or off), a file may suddenly be considered
new just because you edited tags. Overall it's a sensible method, but
if you don't know how it works it can produce some surprises.
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everything connected via the SB system, or could alternatively plug the
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with a mechanical hard drive that
can be used as an external USB drive then you may be able to use it
this way.
Is putting the pc in a different room an option? Or getting a small,
inexpensive, fanless computer for running SBS?
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*DaveKen:* to make things a little easier, try using the following
address, which will load the default skin, which is what is in all the
screenshots that garym posted earlier.
http://192.168.1.70:9000/default/
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I think his iP is 0.70 though.
Nope, it's definitely 1.70 -- another one of the ways that finally
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never heard of that device before, but at that price point you may
as well get a Sonos. Or buy a FitPC2 to run SBS for your Touch, and
spend all the money you save on more music.
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I'm probably missing your point, but it doesn't take any programming
knowledge or knocked-up housekeeping service to (a) run the 'attrib'
command and (b) avoid running WMP. And if you ever forget (b), run the
loop again starting at (a). :-)
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TinySBS, but the other day I was testing something
with a subset of my library on a USB stick and TinySBS worked fine for
me with 7.5.3.
Just another data point
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Correct. That's why god invented text editors with search-and-replace.
And sed.
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(typically Folder.jpg and AlbumArtSmall.jpg) in
your library. If you merely _run_ WMP it will create those files for
any and all music files it finds on your system.
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the USB stick only has one partition?
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I trust that you are not referring to Mr Gates :)
No. Then I might have said popularize rather than invent.
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That is inconvenient, but as a dead-simple workaround, put the lossy
versions in a hidden directory, and TinySBS will never see them. For
example, instead of putting the lossy copies under /music/lossy , make
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now i can add to that the mystery of what set the system attribute on
that file?
wmp?
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, then do
that, and place the .m3u file in the folder you specified for playlists
under SBS Settings Basic Settings Playlist Folder. Then do a rescan
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the difference between 128kbps MP3 and 320kbps MP3.
Likewise, most people, on most music, cannot hear the difference
between 320kbps MP3 and lossless. Try doing an ABX sometime (foobar2k
has a tool that makes it very easy).
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I'm pretty sure there is a way to change the port without editing the
prefs file directly, but I don't have SBS in front of me to check
exactly where it is. Did you stop the SBS service completely before
editing the prefs file? If not, that's why your edit didn't stick.
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is with a
tagging program. A favorite for Windows is the freeware mp3tag
(www.mp3tag.de), which despite the name, works great on FLAC files. For
more info, also see the wiki:
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automatically create the parallel directory structure while making an
MP3 copy from a FLAC. Two very good ones that I have used are
flac2mp3.pl (it's a Perl script from Robin Bowes) and dBpoweramp's
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What version of SBS and Touch firmware?
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praganj;617694 Wrote:
Where can i find some more information about the new features in 7.6
firmware ?
The beta forum
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Those 3 options are normal for 7.6.0. I have firmware r9316 and have
Extras on the home menu, but I don't remember exactly how I got it
there. You may have to try restoring defaults or restoring hidden items
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report it anywhere. It's
not a bug, but a new feature for greater menu customization in 7.6. See
this thread for more info:
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that
in Linux. Note that the hidden folders are still visible outside of
SBS, so you can still use them as before.
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Sugarcube
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garym has it right (both the original post and the edit). For
disambiguation, also see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drinking_the_Kool-Aid
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one(s) you want, such as Text Only
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SBS doesn't resolve the address itself. It relies on your internet
connection's link to a domain name service. Have you done the router
reboot and/or network reboot that toby suggested?
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sharing the HDD over the network. The Touch runs a Samba server, which
is the standard software used by NASs and other devices.
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That's a strange one, and I don't have any ready answers for you. This
is a longshot, but could it be an IP address conflict? How are the
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I'm not doubting you, I just don't understand the relationship between
the power supply of a network switch and the sound of the Touch.
My reading is either (a) Phil is having some fun, or (b) he finally
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web ui under Settings Information
Preferences Folder.
If they already have different contents, you'll need to manually get
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Cue sheets are plain text files.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cue_sheet_(computing)
XLD: http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/23430/x-lossless-decoder
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Are you sure that the Touch's built-in Squeezebox Server (TinySBS) is
running? Also, do you have any other sources connected to the Touch's
USB port? For music libraries the Touch will only recognize one locally
attached source, either USB or SD, but not both.
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management: it does a lot of things, but none of them especially well.
For my management I prefer the following:
Ripping: dBpoweramp (or if you want to stay with freeware, use EAC)
Tagging: mp3tag
Filenames locations: applications native to the OS (eg, Windows
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TinySBS stores favorites.opml on the Touch's internal filesystem. I
forget the exact path.
Re the 100 item limit on TinySBS playlists, I would guess that it
wouldn't be a big issue in Ikabob's case, in which each item is a radio
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that convenience as well.
The TinySBS itself is silent, but if your library is on a USB drive you
will have a whirring hard drive in your listening room. USB drives can
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That's pretty strange, but TinySBS may help you. Another possibility is
to put those stations on your Favorites list at mysb.com and connect
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but if TinySBS will do everything for you then you can even save that
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Afaik that's still true.
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, or are
there others? Because one of the annoying things about TinySBS is that
you can't specify a particular music folder, so it searches the entire
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Vortexbox on it. Does the NAS even have
an x86 CPU?
As an alternative, why not run SBS on your PC but use the NAS as the
library, instead of having a separate copy on your PC? If you are
running the regular SBS there is nothing that says the library has to
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Hi aubuti :
Good Point, are you saying that I share that NAS Folder from the PC
that is running the SBS and My Touch should see the NAS library so I do
not need to maintain another copy of the Music library on the PC? I will
try this when I get home tomorrow, Thank
Just confirming the obvious first before deeper troubleshooting: did you
set SBS to treat multi-disc albums as a single album?
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all those ALAC-supporting iPods would count for a lot in (b).
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NSS. You're preaching to the choir here. I have no iThings and no use
for ALAC. FLAC is perfect for me. I was merely taking issue with the
bald claim that -Aside from wav, FLAC has more hardware support than
any other lossless format.- It's not as simple as that.
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. It
is not a router, just a way of turning one ethernet plug into 4 or more
plugs. Just ask when you get to that point.
In fact, the 'switch Howard just ordered'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=612053#post612053)
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and full SBS? I'm genuinely curious.
Fwiw, I do often run two versions of full SBS. The official release on
my server, and also a nightly beta for testing that runs on a virtual
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Yeah, I can see that. We use WOL in our house because that seems easier
for the non-techy users than having them switch servers/libraries. The
server goes from suspend to running in 2-3 seconds. But all users (and
families!) are different.
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first. The value 1 is
simply computer-speak for true. So if a track has the Compilation tag
and the tag has the value 1, that means it is part of a compilation.
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to the far right is labeled Album Artist and is used for the
Album Artist. What you do with those fields depends a lot on how you
want your classical tracks to look in SBS -- there is no categorical
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. If the filenames
are sensible then adding tags is quick and easy with something like
mp3tag. If the filenames are not sensible you'll have to do some
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