> If I were to use the trisquelize script on a computer with Ubuntu 18.04
> while Tirsquel 9 has not been released, what would happen?
IIRC, that script replaces the Ubuntu repositories with the
corresponding Trisquel repositories. I don't think that there is a
Trisquel 9 repository yet, so this
> I didn't know about the netboot discs and that they still
> had 32-bit support.
Understandable. I had to specifically look for them. The Ubuntu website
doesn't go out of its way to advertise that they support more
architectures than amd64.
> All that I knew was that flavors of Ubuntu (such as
I've found the problem. See here:
https://launchpad.net/~micahflee/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages
The PPA does not have torbrowser-launcher packaged for Xenial, only
Bionic and Cosmic. Since Trisquel 8 is based on Xenial, there's no
package available.
If I were you I'd build it from source. The
> How do I get the best, most complete GNOME experience on Trisquel?
I'd start with a netinstall, so that you don't have any MATE stuff
cluttering your system.
To install GNOME:
$ sudo apt install gnome
For Trisquel look/feel (Trisquel's icon theme doesn't play nice with
GTK3, but GNOME Brave
> True, but wouldn't that mean having to import an increasing number of
> packages from elsewhere?
I'm not sure exactly how much extra work it would be. It would certainly
help if there were an arch32-like community project. That said, I don't
see any reason to expect Ubuntu to drop 32-bit
> E: Unable to locate package python3-gpg
This package isn't present in Ubuntu 16.04 or Trisquel 8. I tried
several ways of getting it and ran into problems. I can't afford to
spend more time on this today. You could ask the dev for build
instructions for Ubuntu 16.04, or just do this:
$ wget
> Chaosmonk, I am sorry to take too much of your time, and I really
> appreciate your efforts. Thanks a lot.
No problem. I'll look into torbrowser-launcher more if I have the
chance, but for now the instructions in my last message should achieve
the same thing. (Assuming that you are the only
> Version table:
> *** 0.2.4-1 500
> 500 http://es.archive.trisquel.info/trisquel flidas/main amd64
Okay, indeed the package manager does not find the PPA's version of the
package.
Based on the screenshot you attached earlier it seems like you really
did add the PPA, but run
$ ls
> I wanted to know if plans to dropping 32-bit support and only 64
> will be the future for Trisquel 9 Etiona?
Trisquel 9 will be based on Ubuntu 18.04. Since 18.04 has 32-bit support
I do not think it will be a problem for Trisquel 9. Trisquel 9 will also
add support for some non-x68
> Given the rather modest hardware requirements of MATE, I do not see much
> point in Trisquel Mini anymore. But maybe I am wrong: are there many
> current users of Trisquel Mini who have 1 GB (or less) of RAM?
I have a few machines (not my primary one) with 1GB of RAM, and there
is a noticeable
All I said about Trisquel 10 is that it will be based on Ubuntu 20.04,
and that's all I know about it.
As for Trisquel 9, all I know is what I've gathered from tuning into
some of the Freedom Friday meetings, which is that the priority now
seems to be infrastructural improvements, that this
> but there is no torbrowser-launcher folder to cd to.
Make sure that git is installed
$ sudo apt install git
so that the command is successful.
> And from where should I
> cd to it? I don't know but is the right question: Where does git clone the
> source to?
The torbrowser-launcher
> Can I use the Trisquelize script with any existing Ubunto to
> Trisquel version?
Yes, I think so. I have never used the script myself, but if I
understand correctly all it does is replace the Ubuntu repos with the
Trisquel repos, identify proprietary software on your system, and give
you the
> That's interesting, did you customize some configuration files? Are you
> using a certain version of libreboot?
On the X60 I think I just followed the libreboot documentation to
install libreboot. This was about a year and a half ago, but I'm pretty
sure that I did not customize it at all.
I
> my X200 also came with libreboot pre-installed and out of the box it
> could not suspend, and the problem was the machine did not want to wake
> up.
I have a few friends with macbooks running GNU/Linux, for whom
hibernation works with some kernels but not others. I don't know if it
will help,
> But it is
> almost certainly "Popcorn Time is illegal".
Is the software itself likely to be illegal? It can certainly be used to
illegally acquire and play copyrighted works, but so can other
BitTorrent clients and video players. I'm sure there are companies who
would like to ban BitTorrent
> It was
> set to Trisquel, but I had the option of a MATE login so I changed to that.
Okay, then MATE is the one we want.
> When the desktop loaded there was no panel at all.
Run
sudo apt install --reinstall trisquel trisquel-recommended
and reboot. I don't know that it will fix the problem,
> It booted without panel, so I ran mate-panel which worked
While mate-panel is running, can you logout/shutdown/etc from the main
menu? If so, then the only problem is that mate-panel isn't started
automatically. If not then there is something else missing as well.
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and if that works then retry
$ sudo apt install trisquel
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> Just tried the logging in as guest
>
> It works perfectly
Okay, then the problem is not system-wide. There just a problem with
your user's configuration, and we need to find out where it is. Magic
Banana's suggestion should accomplish this.
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> (mate-panel:3374): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_unref: assertion
> 'G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed
From what I can gather searching, I think that this warning is harmless.
> The panel appears to run properly with the exception that the
> logout/shutdown buttons don't work. One other
> When I corrected that everything booted as it was in guest.
Do you mean that panel/shutdown/etc is working like it was in guest? If
so, what problems are you still having?
If Orca is still enabled, here's how to disable it.
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/disabling-orca-screen-reader
> libreboot cannot do sleep or hibernate in general, at least not reliably.
Suspend and hibernate have always worked reliably with my librebooted
X60 and X200.
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> I now have a mate-panel
>
> I added this to the startup applications
Hm. You shouldn't have to add mate-panel to Startup Applications. It
should launch automatically like gnome-panel did in Trisquel 7. Remove
mate-panel from Startup Applications. That isn't the issue.
Maybe LightDM (the login
> but when I try to
> enable wifi it does not work, it says "secrets are required but not
> provided"
How did you try to connect? nmcli? nmtui?
> now I am on Trisquel
> Mini instead i3
So it works in LXDE (Trisquel Mini) but not i3?
> Or if I could use some graphical program to connect by wifi
> I am trouble installing wifi
> driver(broadcom BCM43602 -14e4:43ba) on my laptop.
That WiFi card doesn't work without proprietary software. Trisquel only
includes free software.[1]
> According to the
> https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/brcm80211, Driver is
> supported in 3.17+
This has to do with the switch from GNOME to MATE and Trisquel's default
desktop environment. What I think happened is that you did not have the
"trisquel" metapackage installed while upgrading. This metapackage would
have installed the needed components of the MATE desktop environment.
Install
> Errors were encountered while processing:
> minidlna
Can you try
$ sudo apt update
$ sudo apt install minidlna
? If you get an error, copy/paste the entire message here. If you don't
get an error, try
$ sudo apt install trisquel
again.
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Are you referring to the theme of the tabs and menus, or of the web
pages themselves?
By default, the tabs and menus should just inherit your GTK3 theme.
Assuming that you are using MATE, you might only be modifying your GTK2
theme if you are using the "Appearance" menu under mate-control-center.
I think you should be fine with youtube-dl. I used to be under the
impression that youtube-dl executes proprietary JavaScript, but I now
understand that it only *parses* the JavaScript to find the URL for some
videos. It doesn't actually run the JavaScript, so it's not a freedom
issue. avideo
> I was testing i3 and it is so clean but when I have more than one window
> Midori does not show navigation bar to write
I use i3 and do not have this problem. Are you using the latest version
of Midori? If not, build and install it using the instructions in my
other comment.
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> I am testing a nit more i3 and I really think it is what I will use.
i3 is great. I'll never go back to using a stacking window manager.
> Midori is upgraded as you told me but I can not acces to history, when I
> click on preferences I can not see it, and I even if I click on
> extensions me
> Can the given issue be caused by the same application being present in
> both the repo and a PPA?
No, The version that is not installed should have no effect on your
system.
> How can I make sure, that Trisquel installs from the PPA and not the repo?
The package manager will default to the
What is the output of
$ apt policy torbrowser-launcher
?
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> www.epicbrwoser.com.
This is proprietary software, so it will never be included in Trisquel.
I'm also skeptical of claims that it is privacy-respecting. Without the
freedom to study the software, we only have the company's word that the
browser is not malware, and the privacy features
> where (link) can I find the list of preloaded software of Trisquel 8?
The most reliable way to see what software is already installed on your
system is to open Synaptic Package Manager. This will show you every
package installed and allow you to add/remove packages.
You can also go to
> Trisquel's
> default resolution setting (1024x768 & 76 Hz) - which I still can't change -
What is the output of
$ xrandr
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I haven't really used my Replicant phone much, as I prefer using JMP
with my laptop, so I can't thoroughly review it, but the only
limitation I've run into is that you need to use a USB adapter for WiFi
to work. I guess I could see this being a minor inconvenience if I went
back to carrying a
https://trisquel.info/en/forum/weird-output-when-trying-update#comment-134900
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> (again)
Was it ever back up?
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> sudo apt purge trisquel
I have removed 'trisquel' and still have the MATE desktop. The only
difference between 'purge' and 'remove' is that purge removes config
files, so that shouldn't remove MATE either.
$ sudo apt install mate-desktop
followed by
$ sudo apt autoremove
might do it.
> As much as I'd like a GNOME desktop on Trisquel, GNOME Videos is
> totally borked in Trisquel 8. That's a deal-breaker for me, since I
> use it to watch YouTube.
If you want a solid desktop client (as opposed to a site like
invidio.us) for watching YouTube videos, I highly recommend
> I’ve been trying to download a VPN for my Lenovo Thinkpad X200 Libreboot.
Do you mean that you have a VPN and need to download a VPN client, or
that you don't have a VPN and want one?
> The VPN on the laptop sends me to the webpage openvpn.net
What program is sending you to openvpn.net?
>
> The magic SysRq key is your friend.
Thanks! I wish I'd known this a long time ago...
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You might do a search for the same issue with Ubuntu 16.04, on which
Trisquel 8 is based. I see a few threads that suggest different
solutions, but without access to an Android phone I can't try any of
them.
I misread your title, sorry.
Can you launch these programs from a terminal as root using gksudo? For
example,
$ gksudo synaptic
should launch a window prompting your for your password, and when
then when Synaptic launches Synaptic should work.
If that doesn't work, run
$ groups
in a
> I've reinstalled it with apt-get remove / apt-get install, it still looks
> the same, not sure what else to do.
"apt remove" only removes the software, not your user's configuration of
the program, so everything being the same after reinstalling is the
expected behavior. If you want to start
Never mind, I just upgraded to Abrowser 64 and see that there is no
longer a privacy tab, both for the default profile and for my custom
profiles.
It appears that the privacy section of the default tab was removed by
this commit.
> What is the difference between "scrapping content" and "executing it"?
As I understand it, scraping means reading the page/code to get
information, whereas executing means actually running the software.
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> I'm assuming you've tried the full-sized USB dongles with the flip
> antenna, like this one?
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Atheros-AR9271-802-11n-150Mbps-Wireless-USB-WiFi-Adapter-for-Linux-Kali-Linux/302918103655?hash=item4687537267:g:NpsAAOSwAI9bv-wl
>
> I've had a lot of luck with them.
No, I
> It's not a laptop but there's also the TALOS II. You'll never see POWER9
> in a laptop. If I had to give up the laptop form factor in order to have
> a future in freedom then I could do that. I'm already there. Most of my
> computers are not laptops.
Portability aside, the TALOS II is extremely
> chaosmonk - how do you feel about the fact that the government was so
> heavily involved in creating and financing Tor? I've always been wary of
> it - wondering what your opinion is.
Are you implying that it could be a honeypot of some kind? If so, that's
something I worry about a lot with
Suspend/hibernate is often a problem with Linux (the kernel), and when
it does/doesn't work seems to be hardware-specific. This is an issue in
Ubuntu as well. Trisquel's kernel is created by running a script[1]
which automatically removes the proprietary blobs from Ubuntu's kernel,
so if this
> I mean, Invidious doesn't have an index file with all Youtube videos,
> right?
Actually, I think it does. If I understand correctly, Invidious crawls
through YouTube indexing channels and videos.
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> But what about if you run it in your own computer then?
You mean run your own instance of Invidious? In that case, you would
scrape YouTube and the information would be stored on your server.
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> PCI vs USB WI-FI results argument is totally void. There is no such thing.
>
> Check stock TL-WN721N/TL-WN722N or what thinkpenguin/tehcnoetical have.
When I began migrating to free software, I bought several ThinkPenguin
WiFi dongles and used them for a year. It was extremely frustrating. I
> 7 is compatible with my
> computer system.
Then Trisquel 8 almost certainly is too.
> I am ruing the fact that I accepted the suggestion from
> Trisquel to upgrade yesterday.
So you tried upgrading and have experienced problems? Chances are that
the problem is not Trisquel 8, but with the
> [User]~40[DOMAIN][AT]jmp.bwapp.bwsip.io
>
> Where [USER]=username, [DOMAIN]=dismail.de, and [AT]=@
To clarify why this is, dismail.de is only your XMPP provider, not your
SIP provider. JMP is your SIP provider, which is why the domain after
the @ is jmp.bwapp.bwsip.io. Since JMP knows you as
> This card (42T0825) should work on any 945/965 chipset based ThinkPads
> (R6x, T6x, X6x and Z61 series).
I'm interested to know where you got this information, as this sort of
thing is very valuable to know. Each laptop listed in h-node has a
"wifi model" field saying whether or not the WiFi
> I had trouble trying to set up Linphone for JMP (it wasn't accepting the
> tilde in the SIP username)
This was definitely a problem with the version in Trisquel 7. I think
it's fixed in the version in Trisquel 8. The workaround was to omit the
tilde during the setup wizard, then go add it in
> I think
> it's fixed in the version in Trisquel 8.
Never mind, just saw OPs comment.
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> Yes, sound works perfectly in a guest session.
That means that the problem is specific to your user's configuration. It
sounds like ALSA works, since you got sound when testing your speakers
in Sound settings. (I have since learned that a faster way to do this
would have been to run
> Sound still does not work after deleting that folder.
Then the problem might be unrelated to pulseaudio. To confirm though,
can you run
$ sudo apt remove pulseaudio
reboot, and see if sound works (in vlc or something, not your browser).
Then reinstall pulseaudio with
$ sudo apt install
> Unfortunately, running that command as well as running both of those apt
> commands separately did not fix the configuration problem.
I forgot to mention that you'll need to reboot next. Have you already
done that?
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> Can anybody confirm me that encrypted home folder (not encrypted disk)
> will work after running this script on lubuntu 16.04 LTS?
I have not used the script myself, but I've looked it over to get a
sense of what it does.
First note that the script is for Ubuntu 12.04 to Trisquel 6, so you'll
@Liberated, I'm glad everything's working now.
@Lil Beanie, If you are still having trouble with sound, can you try
$ rm -rf ~/.config/pulse
and see if the problem goes away as it did for Liberated?
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> The SDK Platform Tools are great for removing bloatware from phones that
> can't be rooted, particularly the command-line tools.
>
> I believe that at least the source is made available, but do not know how
> free the tools really are, especially since they are developed by Google.
>
> Does
> I just realized that the volume button/slider which is usually next to the
> network button on the bottom panel is missing.
It's possible that this applet had pulseaudio as a dependency, got
uninstalled when we removed pulseaudio.
Run
$ sudo apt install trisquel
to install the "trisquel"
> Hello dear friends,
> I can't install any sofware/package with pip!
pip searches and installs from the PyPi repository. This repository
contains proprietary software. Since Trisquel can't control what goes
into the PyPi repository, the only solution was to remove pip from
Trisquel.
What
> Pinebook pro can work natively
> with ubuntu and proprietary blobs and if you buy a usb-wifi adapter, it
> could even work 100% freely with Trisquel (for example).
This has been true of every laptop I've encountered, so it isn't
remarkable. The only problems I often run into with laptops are
> Testing the speakers and headphones did result in sound, both with the
> speakers and the headphones.
>
> Turning up the faders while playing music did not fix the problem.
Okay, it sounds like everything is fine between ALSA and the sound card,
in which case the problem is higher-level than
> Yes, the other 2 kernels (4.4.0-142-generic and 4.4.0-141-generic) did
> not fix the problem.
I'm going to assume that "the problem" is that you have no sound. If the
problem is more specific than that then let me know. I'm also assuming
that you are using MATE, the default Trisquel desktop
> I am afraid to switch to a generic kernel and because my system is
> perfectly working
You can always switch back to the low-latency kernel. You have nothing
to lose.
$ sudo apt install linux-generic
> I am going to open an issue regarding the suspend / halt issue.
Don't do this until you
> Same problem here on Trisquel 8.
Do you mean sound? If so, can you describe the problem in more detail so
that we can troubleshoot? I just updated my Trisquel 8 system and sound
works fine, so I need to know more about your situation in order to
help.
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> I should add that when I start the computer and the login screen shows up,
> the sound that is supposed to play still plays.
Hm. If you log into a guest session do you have sound?
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> So, FreeTube is a good option then?
I've never used it, but it looks good (depending on your stance
regarding Electron). I've found youtube-viewer[1] useful as well. It has
both a cli interface and a GTK interface.
[1] https://github.com/trizen/youtube-viewer
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https://trisquel.info/en/forum/electron-again
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> Also, one very important question... How many of you use Tor when
> accessing Youtube?
I do encourage using Tor, even at times you don't need it, because more
people using Tor improves the anonymity of the Tor network. However,
watching videos or downloading large files slows down the network
> Well, because when I disable javascript I can't read the comments.
> think in mobile for example you can only read the first comments, if you
> want to "scroll down the comments" you need Javascript again.
Invidious uses JavaScript to load more comments without having to leave
the page, so it's
> chaosmonk Doesn't every recent AMD/Nvidia graphic card require
> proprietary firmwares for 3D accel?
I think so.
> EVERY device that runs Trisquel you stick PCI or USB card if you want
> WI-FI period.
Yes, and I have had great results with PCI and very poor results with
USB.
> How this works
> Such part/accessory information can be found in the hardware maintenance
> manual (HMM) for older ThinkPad models, but not newer ones. For more
> recent models (starting Nehalem or SandyBridge), the HMMs no longer
> contain a rather verbose "Part List" section.
Okay, so my friend has an X201,
> I don't use any and I also do not have an account on libre.fm but a quick
> search turned out:
> https://packages.debian.org/stretch/zomg
> https://packages.debian.org/buster/mpdas
>
> It would appear, and I just found this out, my favorite music player,
> cmus, can get you where you want to be
> It's only a freedom issue if someone uses the JavaScript engine in
> Abrowser to run non-free JavaScript.
> No, because those organizations don't have problems with us using their
> trademarks to indicate use of their search engine.
Maybe these things aren't a problem on their own, but I think
> List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices
Go back to alsamixer, use F6 to change devices, and see if any of these
have usable controls.
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> I purged ALSA and Pulseaudio and my computer sped up.
What if you just install ALSA and not pulseaudio?
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Thanks for the explanation. It's a shame that the scrobbling data can't
be used for recommendations. What I would love to see is a
recommendation system that suggests free artists who are similar to
a non-free artist.
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> I'm using the livestream / internet radio and podcast features in Quod
> Libet to listen to Creative Commons music from places like Starfrosch
> Radio¹, ccMixter², and Free Music Archive³ and then scrobbling out to
> LibreFM.
Thanks for the suggestions. I'll try these out this weekend.
If you look at the web page Magic Banana sent you, you'll see that this
addon is under the Mozilla Public License v2, which is a free software
license.
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> I also tried using xrandr --output LVDS1 --off which corresponds to my
> laptop screen and it doesn't work properly because it actually disables
> it.
Right. Then you turn it back on with
$ xrandr --output LVDS1 --auto
I would just map those two commands to some convenient shortcuts. A
> I would just map those two commands to some convenient shortcuts.
Or, if you don't want to have two different shortcuts, the following
script will toggle your display on/off.
#!/bin/bash
display=LVDS1
if xrandr --listactivemonitors | grep $display; then
xrandr --output $display --off
> Clients to play last.fm music haven't worked since about 2010. There are
> still some clients which claim they can "scrobble" to last.fm (list the
> tracks you played on your desktop to the last.fm list of played tracks),
> but none of them will actually play the music in quite a few years in my
> libreboot only works with a small number
> of computers and a large proportion of librebooted computers happen to be
> x200's.
Good point. I've updated the wiki.
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/setup-wireless-card
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> I have had much trouble with this OS. Both on my desktop and on a laptop,
> the OS will crash anywhere from 0-10 minutes after startup every time
> without incident.
This is unusual. I have installed Trisquel on many people's computers
and they have not had this problem.
> I doubt this is an
> or just
> replace the proprietary BIOS of your laptop with coreboot or libreboot if
> that is possible.
I'm pretty sure that the X61/X61s can't be librebooted or corebooted,
but you can swap out the motherboard for an X60 motherboard and
libreboot that. The X60 motherboard is easy to libreboot
> thinkwiki.org/wiki/Middleton%27s_BIOS
Looks promising. I have an X61 sitting around. I might try this out over
the weekend.
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> Could be... I doubt it. The laptop I bought from Technoethical was
> specifically sold with this OS installed. So, unless they are foolish
> enough to sell their stock on hardware components that are incompatible
> with Trisquel, the answer is no.
I don't mean incompatible with Trisquel. I mean
> Sounds like I should start by replacing the wireless card.
You'll need to deal with the BIOS *before* replacing the WiFi card. The
current BIOS will refuse to boot if it detects an unauthorized WiFi
card.
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> it is related to the free bios, libreboot.
How? The hardware switch works whether or not the computer is
librebooted.
That said, I guess it couldn't hurt to add a line to this page[1]
advising the user to check for a hardware WiFi switch.
[1] https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/setup-wireless-card
> So it's in the main repo then? I must have been looking in the wrong place
> (I think it's 'i3' in Debian instead of 'i3-wm' perhaps that's why).
You are perhaps thinking of the i3 metapackage, which includes the i3
window manager and a handful of recommended packages.
$ apt depends i3
i3
Run
$ sudo apt install trisquel
and reboot.
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