Kevin do you have a problem with Believers
who choose to honor the Saturday Sabbath? Izzy
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lives on
Study shows undeniable Anti-American bias
in Canadian media: http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/jun/05060707.html
It has occurred to me that if we speak and write with the view in mind that we at the beginning of another day of learning, our hearts and minds will be more open to what God has instore. Perhaps our doctrinal statements should not be "as if written n stone.' But reflective of the growth that
We don't start all over again from the beginning JD; if we don't hold fast
to what we already know and
understand as truth then we are in danger of slipping ie: "Therefore we
ought to give the more earnest heed (attention) to the things which we have
heard, lest at any time we should let
You really don't even try to understand what I am saying.
Let's move on, shall we.
Jd-Original Message-From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:49:57 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apocrypha
We don't
JALALPUR, Bangladesh -- A Baptist lay pastor has been beheaded in Bangladesh, the second Christian leader to lose his life in that country in a year, a Christian news organization has reported.Dulal Sarkar, 35, was attacked as he returned home from discussing his faith with local villagers,
I understand what you are saying JD but youmix spiritual growth which
is in flux and has to do with
obedience in our daily lives withdoctrine - or what we believe.
They are related because "as a man
believes in his heart - so is he" but it is impossible for an internet list
to evaluate how
Good thought, JD. It is the normal
walk for a Believer that we are growing in Christ and His Word each new daybeing
more and more perfected. Izzy
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Let me make sure I'm on the same page here.
JD is saying that our "doctrinal statement" which for me
is God's Word should not be as if written in stone.
You Izzy if I am understanding correctly are saying that WE
grow in Christ and are more perfected each new day.
Is this what you are
Kevin wrote:
A fig leaf will
never cover your SIN!
http://www.fairlds.org/apol/antis/200302.html
Interesting how Bob links Mormonism to Islam, Judaism,
and Native American religion.
Bob wrote:
[These other religous followers wear] Bits of cloth or
string that are physical reminders of God
Yup! J We do
hopefully grow in our understanding of His Wordby that I mean that our
depth of understanding increases. (Not that our doctrines fluctuate day
to day.) Izzy
II Peter 3: 17You
therefore, (AW)beloved, knowing this beforehand, (AX)be on your guard so that you are
not carried
No one called you ignorant. BUT WE ARE NOT GOING TO DEBATE THIS TYPE OF COMMENT.No more personal evaluation or extended defense for me.I do not like aditting being wrong -- but I was in this issue.
Secondly, you seem to believe that spiritual growth does not include continuing maturity and
Yes and in that "growth" factor I believe there is room for differences of opinion or interpretation.We have all changed our minds concerning our personal and doctrinal thinking in the lord. That pretty much is one of those "duh !!" statements ..yet, itappears to me thatit
Not exactly. I do notinclude our (read: my) doctrinal statements with the "Word of God." I do believe that when we think we know something, we do not yet know it as we ought. I also believe that God can and does work great good in His people in spite of the fact that might be thinking poorly on
The disciples were learning by doing with a limited understanding - Things
changed after Pentecost when they
received the Promise. Look at the difference in Peter - We begin
there so God's Word should no longer be a mystery to us whether we are walking
in every bit ofit or not. My point is
No I have a problem with those that use the sabbath as a device to snare others into thinking Sunday worship is the"mark of the beast" they are the "ONE TRUE CHURCH" because they worship on Saturday.
http://www.pathlights.com/Bible%20School/FB26.htm
The CBC biased?
N
I thought they were fair and balanced like PBS!ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Study shows undeniable Anti-American bias in Canadian media: http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/jun/05060707.html
JD Paul is surely NOT against knowing but knowing that is final
So you say.
Then I can never really know if what you are saying even now is true.
Why are you always looking to talk people out of knowing the truth?
Do you want them to end up like you, questioning everything?
Or so you can then
We get the gist of it and we don't like it.
Your words are your private doctrine.
I prefer the Word of God[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You really don't even try to understand what I am saying.
Let's move on, shall we.
Jd-Original Message-From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:
JD you have been searching for how long for the truth and still have not found it?
You've been blown from one cultic group to the next and are still dealing with the fallout from the Abuse.
The Truth is in the book
JN 17:17 thy word is truth
You have still not received it:
For this cause also
Thank you for a breath of Fresh Air!
This is a device to beat christians into submission.
SSH!
Do not say anything to offend.
In fact just keep it in the church!
There are many devices in a man's heart; nevertheless the counsel of the LORD, that shall stand.Christine Miller [EMAIL
JD are you Growing or Vacillating?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No one called you ignorant. BUT WE ARE NOT GOING TO DEBATE THIS TYPE OF COMMENT.No more personal evaluation or extended defense for me.I do not like aditting being wrong -- but I was in this issue.
Secondly, you seem to believe that
Me too! It's either the Word of God orLance and his crowd who
believe that we can't know anything
because of the enlightenment...
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 11:35:28 -0700 (PDT) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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We get the gist of it and we don't like it.
Your words are your private
Right!! Last night O'Reilly was crunching the numbers and apparently
the African Nations owe way
more to the US than they do to any other Nation - also the US gives more to
the poor than any other
Nation as well as footing almost all of the bill for fighting terrorism
which benefits every
The only time I changed my mind was when I got saved. One does not grow in doctrine but grows in grace.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes and in that "growth" factor I believe there is room for differences of opinion or interpretation.We have all changed our minds concerning our personal and
But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The disciples were learning by doing with a limited understanding - Things changed after Pentecost when they
received the Promise. Look
I am curious, Deegan. This isa discussion group. With reference to your comments below, what should be allowed and discussed without resulting insult? What is intellectual fair game to you?
Jd-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Wed,
When we decide upon a "truth," finalize that in our mind and even institutionalize the concept, we close the doorto further examination. With that door closed, we are shut off from amending our point of view.We stop growing and declare to all who will listen, "I have arrived by the grace of
Would you 'respect' your parents if they were representated by one of those
groups named below?
- Original Message -
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Sent: June 08, 2005 12:35
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Kevin wrote:
A fig leaf
On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 14:55:51 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
When we decide upon a "truth," finalize that in our mind and even
institutionalize the concept, we close the doorto further
examination.
jt: What do you mean "decide upon a truth" JD? Are you saying that
Not too bad of a question. Quite often growth may appear to bevacillation.If we define new birth as a putting on of Christ, emphasis ona relationship, then we might suppose that the resulting validation marking the difference between vacillation and growthis the benefit can see in the occurring
Interesting JD,
I've been attending an introductory class at the church we have been
attending which is PCA. They identify with the Reformation and they like the
Shorter Catechism. I can't figure out why the first point in the Catechism
does not say that the chief end of man is to be
JD I would have to say that I certainly
have had doctrinal changes over my lifetime. For instance, I grew up
being taught that baptism was for infants. Now that I have become and
Believer and understand His Word, I know that is not true. There were
doctrinal issues that I never thought
Actually, Kevin, I attend on Saturday. Do
you see that as evil? Izzy
In someones eyes you Izzy, are doing evil going to
church on SUNDAY
IS 56 Blessed is the man that doeth this,
and the son of man that layeth hold on it; that keepeth the sabbath from
polluting
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Anti-American bias
Right!! Last night O'Reilly was crunching the
Lance,Lance,Lanceoh, how long must we strive with you to understand???
The Word of God says to treat your parents with respect. It's one of the Ten
Biggies. Period. So is that a sincere question?
NOW, think about it, Lance. HOW does God respect people? He allows them
to have free will! God
JD, do you want to take a vote on whether
youve become a better person since first appearing on TT?
Izzy
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JD, you need to find a decent
fellowship. Your view of how the church behaves is foreign to me, except
in the institutional denominations. The church we attend now is the Best
and Safest place to ask questions! Questions are encouraged! Just
one difference between our church and you: at
Lance wrote:
Would you 'respect' your parents if they were
representated by one of those
groups named below?
Your question redefines the argument. You brought up a
parent-child relationship when I was talking about a
person-person relationship. Another way to redefine
the argument is to
We do not decide upon a Truth. You do, we don't.
The Holy Spirit leads us into ALL Truth.
Your doctrines are repugnant
You are the personification of them and therefore have not come to a settling of what is and what aint!
The Bible decides upon a Truth, we align ourselves to it. You align to your
You are insulted by this?
We get the gist of it and we don't like it.
Your words are your private doctrine.
I prefer the Word of God[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am curious, Deegan. This isa discussion group. With reference to your comments below, what should be allowed and discussed without
How about if they were satanists?
How about Child abusers?
Mafia?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Would you 'respect' your parents if they were representated by one of thosegroups named below?- Original Message - From: "Christine Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To:
The light should get brighter and brighter, not blinking on off on off on off.
If any man walk in the day, he stumbleth not, because he seeth the light of this world.
Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.
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Not too bad of a
The NEW or OLD JD?ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
JD, do you want to take a vote on whether youve become a better person since first appearing on TT? Izzy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 1:12
No read the post again M Halverson does
The SDA see you as having the MARK of The BEAST!ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually, Kevin, I attend on Saturday. Do you see that as evil? Izzy
In someones eyes you Izzy, are doing evil going to church on SUNDAY
IS 56 Blessed is
Do you think I should respect Islam or Paganism?
Good question!
How about it Lance care to answer or will you play mum or redefine again?
Do you Lance RESPECT Satanism?Christine Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lance wrote: Would you 'respect' your parents if they were representated by one of
The point is to replace the Book with the Scholar
The point is to replace your church with his church.
First the book must be moved out of the way to make room, for the new authority.
Scholar says "The book has errors I have answers."
"The book can not be trusted, fear not I am here to help."
"the
http://www.ariseandwalk.com/articles.php?id=83
The Post Modern Scare (Reaching a post-modern world without post-modern methods)This is the new buzz word among evangelicals, post-modernism. It has developed a certain shock value as its usage has picked up momentum over the past couple years. This
that's cuz
yergoin' ta hell
On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 09:58:48 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes to jt:
You really don't even try to understand what I am saying.
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yer goin'
ta hell
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If you don't agree, so what?
HA HA good subject for jokin about.
Go stand by the gates of hell, and hear the damned entreat you to go to their father's house and bid their brothers and sisters and servants and masters not to come there[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
that's cuz yergoin' ta hell
On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 09:58:48 -0400
Oh, I forgot.
JD-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 16:46:38 -0600Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apocrypha
that's cuz yergoin' ta hell
On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 09:58:48 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes to jt:
You really don't even try
HA HA
Just like a LOST man.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
yer goin' ta hell
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If you don't agree, so what?
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So you think Marlin sees going to church
on Saturday as the mark of the beast? What is SDA?
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Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005
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Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Re:WWCofG
lives
..for some
reason the 'openair' email add has alwaysgenerated plenty of humorous
material..more's on the way,i suspect
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 16:25:23 -0700 (PDT) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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HA HA good subject for jokin about..
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Marlin sees going to Church on SUNDAY as the STRONG DELUSION
M Halverson says I believe it, instead of Sabbath keeping,is a symptom of the strong delusion mentioned in 2 Thesolonians 2 and a fulfillment of Isaiah 56.
SDA is Seventh Day Adventist CultShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well..
You really can say more than MYTH or DUALISM
Hell is not funny, except to LOST people.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
..for some reason the 'openair' email add has alwaysgenerated plenty of humorous material..more's on the way,i suspect
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 16:25:23 -0700 (PDT) Kevin Deegan
On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 14:55:51 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
When we decide upon a "truth," finalize that in our mind and even institutionalize the concept, we close the doorto further examination.
jt: What do you mean "decide upon a truth" JD? Are you saying that God's Word is only
I am talking about a realtionship with Christ and you are talking about what? Sorry, but I miss your point completely.
Jd
Interesting JD,
I've been attending an introductory class at the church we have been attending which is PCA. They identify with the Reformation and they like the Shorter
I worry about you sometimes, Kevin. I asked you a couple of questions. That's all. Were you going to give an answer?
JD
You are insulted by this?
We get the gist of it and we don't like it.
Your words are your private doctrine.
I prefer the Word of God[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am
I'm talking about Truth and what the PCA have done via the Shorter
Catechism is what doctrines of men
are doing constantly - you included JD. Since His works were done
before the foundation of the world and
it is written that we are predestined to be conformed to the "image of
Christ" then
If you are saying that we are to be like Him, conformed to His image -- I say "duh !"
It appears, howeer that we have regressed into monologue.
Jd
I'm talking about Truth and what the PCA have done via the Shorter Catechism is what doctrines of men
are doing constantly - you
When you Lance answer some of your backlog of questions.
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I worry about you sometimes, Kevin. I asked you a couple of questions. That's all. Were you going to give an answer?
JD
You are insulted by this?
We get the gist of it and we don't like it.
Your words are
You had implied in the past that you yours are the only ones capable of inteligent discussion. Was that the OLD JD?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you are saying that we are to be like Him, conformed to His image -- I say "duh !"
It appears, howeer that we have regressed into monologue.
Thanks for you answer.
-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:10:30 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apocrypha
When you Lance answer some of your backlog of questions.
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I worry about
Don't be so thin skinned.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for you answer.
-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:10:30 -0700 (PDT)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Apocrypha
When you Lance answer some of your backlog of
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