Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

See JT you just proved their point by accusing the I'm smarter than you crowd of being Arrogant! Why can't you just accept it. They are superior not Arrogant.Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are Bill and not Lance who made the "accusation" to begin with but apparently you two are

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

The prophets and apostles as such, even in their office ... were ... actually guilty of ERROR IN THEIR SPOKEN AND WRITTEN WORD" (Barth, Church Dogmatics). Which for you? Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:The one with all those other books in it, or the Protestant version?If this is your m

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

in the world do you think Bill T cameup with such ideas? You think he just made them up -- pulled them out of thin air??? You can't find a greek grammar that will disagree with what he has said. His opinion IS themajority opinion, without a doubt.-Original Message- From: Kevin Deegan openairmission

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

, pretty quick, pal. -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 13:49:02 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisorWhat was used for English speaking folk beforethe KJV?DUH!1384 - John Wycliffe translates

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

en what I said about them? I believe that the written message has always been there.Ialso believe that God's has never ceased to work His will nor the Power of the Indwelling to have ever been made void. -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk@mail

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

ntary?" The more JD talks the more confusing it allbecomes. I will have to stop reading him soon On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 21:07:45 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John don't flatter me me with you utter Arrogance. Besides you don't even see the problem, Possibly you

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

, but no cigar. Jd-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 20:33:17 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisorSo what purification process did your Depraved greek text go thru? By the looks of the MSS

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

to develop yet another thread . Nice try, but no cigar. Jd-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 20:33:17 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisorSo what purification process did your Depraved

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

onse is to ignore the facts and try to develop yet another thread . Nice try, but no cigar. Jd-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 20:33:17 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

Re: [TruthTalk] DaveH's Reply to the Controversy

Big difference between your "humor" and preaching at temple sq but how should we expect you to see the difference between Holy Profane?Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A totally arrogant and insensitive reply, in my opinion.DAVEH: And you are welcome to your opinion, Perry. BUT IMOyour opinion

Re: [TruthTalk] DaveH's Reply to the Controversy

been able to avoid mocking, demeaning and denigrating my answers?Kevin Deegan wrote: Why? Jjust because it is really the Street Preachers fault? Maybe DH was angry. Of course he equates SP in front of the Temple as Obnoxius etc blah blah blah. But he WILL not list just what exactly is so

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 21:07:45 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisorJohn don't flatter me me with you utter Arrogance. Besides you don't even see the problem, Possibly you justavoid the Depraved MSS issue since

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

of makes one wonder about your other "factual" statements and interpretations of scripture, doesn't. Lucky for you thatGod blessed the unwise and foolish -- or am I mistaken as to how those words are used in I Co 2? jd-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.comTo:

Re: [TruthTalk] Calvin's beliefs are of Satan, he was an evil man says Dean

If the Bible is a human book, it is subject to criticism. But if the Bible is God's Word, it is beyond criticismTextual Critic's think they sit in Judgement of God's word, Not so if it is the Word of God it will someday sit in Judgement of them as Jesus told us in JN 12 The Critic sits at the

Re: [TruthTalk] Calvin's beliefs are of Satan, he was an evil man says Dean

"THE WORD WHICH ENTERS HUMAN EARS AND IS UTTERED BY HUMAN LIPS, IS THE WORD OF GOD--ONLY WHEN THE MIRACLE TAKES PLACE. OTHERWISE, IT IS JUST A HUMAN WORD LIKE ANY OTHER. ... What stands there, in the pages of the Bible, is the witness to the Word of God ... God can be called truth only when

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

how those words are used in I Co 2? jd-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 21:38:39 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisorWhy don't you deal with the subject JD? Over your head? I

Re: [TruthTalk] 'Calvin's beliefs are of Satan-He was an evil man' says Dean Moore

Paul is not saying that ignorant or stupid people have been intrusted with the gospel of Christ.He could not be! ENtrusted: Put into the care or protection of someone[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Judy -- invective is your middle name when it comes to "communicating" with the opposition.

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time?Matthew 9:5 For whether is easier, to say, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Arise, and walk? How BIG is your God?Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Where was God's word before 1611? How about; Wyclif's Bible 1384Tyndale 1535Coverdale's Bible 1535Great Bible Geneva Bible Bishops

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

may I quote you JD? Actually, you ran out of answers much quicker than I thought !!! :-)Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:why did it take a Dutch Catholic so long to get it right?The Textual Critics still do not get it, we are up to the 27th CORRECTED edition aren't we? But that does

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

eceived text) or the man-made translation of that text? Regarding W H - you have apparently forgotten what I said about them? I believe that the written message has always been there.Ialso believe that God's has never ceased to work His will nor the Power of the Indwelling to have ever been made voi

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

guess it will just have to be a secrewt from now on.Hey BUD we'll have NONE of that around here! I will report you to the Authorities.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Once again, you cannot remember what it was that I was responding to. And I am not going to tell you so I guess it will

RE: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm

Go FigureShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Leaders aren’t People???From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 9:51 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing:

Re: [TruthTalk] Book of Enoch

The cults love itwhat does that say about it? Not even the RCC believes this one! UFO Cults love it http://www.bibleufo.com/enoch7.htm http://www.bibleufo.com/gospel4.htm Besides thay R 'gods' like LDS There can be no doubt that the incredible realities of the gospel Jesus brought to mankind

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

the words of Rush -- when you argue with an idiot, no one can tell the difference. Maybe I should pay attention to that advice as well. Jd-Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 17:34:16 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

AND it is OBVIOUS, that you will make your stand, withoutany scripture to back up your Philosophy too.Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am content to stand alone if I must, Kevin; although it is obviousI will not have to.Bill- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

And Lance dances on QLance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To David Miller:What BJ (Bishop John) said herein is that which I was getting at re: your visit to 'the campus'.I suspect you already know that as we've spoken of it previously.IMO, this 'conversation' falls into the same

Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 14

t going to have a discussion, are we? Hmmm JD, well I guess you got him told. So it's all about you and it's your way or the highway?On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 17:27:25 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.com writes:With God all things are POSSIBLEJudy Taylor [EMAIL PROT

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

What would makeBill so staunch in a belief without Scriptural evidence?David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JD wrote: The translation presents the reader with acompleted task when that is not the case. No it does not. The translation is present passive. You keep trying to portray

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

derstand that either.Bill - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 11:57 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisorThe subject of the sentence 10:14 is the ONE OFFERING so Bill is saying it is "Not

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

self admiration societyNow that is funny, Thanks for the laughs! Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lance Muir wrote: How can one person be so consistantly wrong? Do you make these idiotic statements just to get attention? No one misses Debbie or Jonathan. No one understands G.

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

Do you make these idiotic statements just to get attention?He is dancing on Q - There is no end to defending myself -- so I won't get started. If the context of my statements do not resolve the issues, nothing else I will say could possibly help. Please note, however, that nothing in what I

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

If there were a verb meaning "to believe falsely," it would not have any significant first person, present indicative!Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aw, Bill, you know this passage is not the same. This is a perfectparticiple "hegiasmene" not a present passive, so I'm not sure what your

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

World vs faith? The choice is NOT Difficult You have already resolved the conflict, whether one agrees or not NO Need to halt between two opinions. He knows what side you are on. Indifference is active oposition in His book!He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

Amazing those that argue against JD, always just end up proving his point in his mind.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:No it does not Perhaps this is true in your case. I am not sure you understand the problem, but I think you do. Others, clearly, do not and that is my point. The average

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

Can you flesh this out more?David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lance wrote: What BJ (Bishop John) said herein is that which I was getting at re: your visit to 'the campus'. ... IMO, this 'conversation' falls into the same category as so many 'exchanges' do on TT. Persons just share polarized

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

cd: This is really scary in leu of level of debate on the Greek and Englishlanguages. The Bible say a child can understand the Gospel-yet side B ofthis room are concerned about the present tense and passive voices of adead language to explain the Gospel and the brethren have to go there tohelp

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

rate them or the KJV. They too are mistaken in this instance.Bill- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisorSoo too most translations translatorsONLY Bill

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

rate them or the KJV. They too are mistaken in this instance.Bill- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisorSoo too most translations translatorsONLY Bill

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

on you talk of. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.com wrote: Not in my NASB 1974 no marginal note on Heb 10:14 My 1973 edition does have it -- as I said.Sorry my "Interlinear Literal Translation of the Greek New Testament" Berry April 2005 reads

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

I think she said she understands the English and in the English it says Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fair enough. Do you accept the present passive thrust of this verb? My impression is that you do not.Bill- Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To:

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

Where there is smoke there is fire- Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 2:51 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisorBill, you and your Gk Dictionary cohorts are

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

Perhabs that is why NO ONE will post any additional scriptures that back up their Private Interpretation of the "ONE OFFERING as an ON GOING EVENT" Theology!Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have no idea what you are talking about Bill. However I do understand Hebrews 10:14 and the

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm

Lance believes in an EFFEMINATE CULTURALY RELEVANT JesusJudy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:He chased the thieves and mercenary out of the temple with a whip Lance. Are you now using Jesus as your example rather than SNL?On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 05:30:48 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

And this from the guy who can't see any in the BoM Bible.. vs . . BoM But he can strain at a gnat while swallowing a camelDave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: Thank you for taking the time to respond, DavidM. I know you are a busy guy, and I appreciate you sharing your

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

Wholsome words Judy!DROSSBurn it NOWOR He will BURN it LATER!Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 23:20:18 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When you see the word "perfected,"as used in Heb 10:14, what does that mean to you. How are we to

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

You defend JS? Does a the POPE swing smoke Eat Jesus cookies?Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He defends J.Smith for yearsDAVEH: As Ronnie Reagan used to put it...There you go again Dean! Do you really remember me defending JS?DAVEH: That's a curious comment, Izzy. Dean made a false

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm

Lance still can't SEE that Theft is a SINLance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Key _expression_ 'The way I see it'. As to the truthfulness of that, I concur.L- Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Sent: November 22, 2005 17:43Subject:

Re: [TruthTalk] DaveH -'having a blast 'sporting with us folks' says Kevin

I was jokingWhen you stand before a Holy God who is about to cast you FOREVER from His Presence, as you are given one last word, you will sayI listened to IZZY and decided to stay in my False Religion Did you always blame your Brothers Sisters as a kid when Mom caught you in that cookie

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

How about the sentence strucre and the meaning How does it interact with something that has occured ONCE for all Not as an ONGOING EVENT? In what waysis Jesus Christs ONE OFFERING (the subject) "NOT COMPLETE"?Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's fine, Judy, but who in this

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

Why don't you share with us some of the Urban legends LDS pass around, about how peole were saved when their Undergarments did not burn in a fire etc.Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Mormons have to leave them on even while taking a bath-They slide them to one side and wash one half of

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

The subject of the sentence 10:14 is the ONE OFFERING so Bill is saying it is "Not yet Complete"Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't speculate on all that Bill because in my understanding the active part of sanctificationrequires the cooperation of the one being sanctified; the

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

Basically it is a question of do/done Cultists must DO Jesus Chrst has DONEWhich side are you on? RCC/JW/LDS/any other ism DO Christianity which is DONE at CalvalryThe Christian is DONE and the CULTISTis still trying to DO INCOMPLETE / ONGOING EVENT / EXALTATION / NOT YET

Re: [TruthTalk] DO/DONE

Calvary, and, responding to the urging of the Spirit of God, trusted Christ alone for salvation. Then he continued to read, and each precious word underlined the work of Christ on his behalf. Knowing God's wonderful salvation, he felt impelled to visit his friends to tell them the good news. He

Re: [TruthTalk] Romans 14

And Dean is not a Servant of God doing what he believes God would hanve him to do? PREACH!Why do you Judge Dean? Why NOT Practice? We know you don't preach.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:first of all, "meats" is not theissue being discussed. Judging the servant of another is. The issues

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm

that Jesus chased thieves out of the temple yet he castigates DavidM for chasing a thief at the University of FloridaOn Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:12:37 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Lance still can't SEE that Theft is a SINLance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: K

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

it happen in the past also.On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 08:58:40 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Perhabs that is why NO ONE will post any additional scriptures that back up their Private Interpretation of the "ONE OFFERING as an ON GOING EVENT" Theology!Judy Taylor [EM

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm

tes:Neither will heacknowledge that Jesus chased thieves out of the temple yet he castigates DavidM for chasing a thief at the University of FloridaOn Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:12:37 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Lance still can't SEE that Theft is a SINLance Muir [

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, then if this is so I don't agree with Bill on that point either. We've moved on from bulls and goats; the blood of the eternal sacrifice isonce and for all time.On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:57:08 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:The subject

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

Standing versus State see belowTerry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:We are positionally perfected by the shed blood of the sacrifice made for our sins, John. The Father sees us as perfect as He sees the Son. (STANDING) We, however, are still playing catch up, trying to live up to our

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

rd (Phil 2:12) though most assuredly not in the way the cults you list below teach.On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 11:03:18 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Basically it is a question of do/done Cultists must DO Jesus Chrst has DONEWhich side are you on? RCC/JW/LDS/any ot

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

Well for the EDIFICATION of all on TT This is exactly the road we travel on when we enter into the greek game. Endless arguments about the sense of "being" versus the nuaances of "having been" Perhaps this explains why there are 27 editions of the "corrected" Greek text AND counting! Why the

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

Bill disagrees with KD Judy disagrees with Bill JD disagrees with everyone but Bill What we need now to settle this long drawn out argument is a FINAL AUTHORITY. Anyone know of one?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:-Original Message-From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:

Re: [TruthTalk] Mormon Logic of coverup

Here is an amazing admission from a Mormon on another board we have been dealing with, it is Amazing Logic!"Of course you have not read accurately or with understanding what I havesaid. (and of course using your logic my statement is false because Ihave not said anything but I have only

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

you here, understandable though it may be, but now you need to move on to accepting that the original language posits this participle as a present passive.Bill- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 12:54 PM

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

to move on to accepting that the original language posits this participle as a present passive.Bill- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisorWhat say ye Bill

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor - TT'ers

Did you ever notice how they dig their heels in to acomplish the original task take everyones view off of the subject at hand.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:He wasn't a translator nor did he work on theNASV project.-Original Message-From: Dean Moore cd_moore@earthlink.netTo:

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor - TT'ers

--- From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 11/21/2005 6:24:10 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor - TT'ersDean, looks like Logsdon saw it like you!cd: I will not make that mistake again its KJV only for me from not on."I must under God renounce e

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

Ezekiel lay on his right side for 390 days, and then on his left sidefor another 40 days. And what were those cakes all about.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Just asking --- who said anything about being drunk? I mean, you guys wave men's underwear around , so why not chew. Whatever.

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor - TT'ers

maybe this will help?"That guy" did not "repent" of anything.Just a silly rumor.Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is what you wrote and this is what I addressed:"That guy" did not "repent" of anything.Just a silly rumor. NASV is based upon a greektext that is olderthan the

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

s finale is expressed [in part] in a visible difference (holiness) between "us" and "them." In this example, we are passively involved to the glory of God. Perfection, in this scripture, is a done deal -- Him dying ONCE AND FOR ALL TIME for us. JD-Original Message-From:

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor - TT'ers

Now it is HIGH TIME to HIGH TAIL it Out A HereDon't worry it won't last he will be back with a vengance.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Move on , Judy. I have. Jd-Original Message-From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent:

Re: [TruthTalk] Another darn Questionere!

Your being persecuted for TRUTH?Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: That's a curious comment, Izzy. Dean made a false accusation about me, and you seem to want to blame me.! Like I saidyou've taught me a lot.ShieldsFamily wrote: Dean, when will you learn that

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor - TT'ers

Watch this "Move on , Judy. I have." Jd[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 136 v 81 :-)-Original Message-From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 23:35:00 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor -

Re: [TruthTalk] A Better Translation?

Look at all those OMISSIONS I wonder if the Omitted words were important to God?Prov 30:5 Every Word of God is pureJudy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A better translation? - Logsdon’s story S. Frank Logsdon (1907-1987), a respected evangelical pastor and conference speaker,

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

Suppose it wassecretly Satan that is worshipped. Would you expect to be told so?Dean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Dave Hansen To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 11/22/2005 3:10:42 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor - TT'ers

Watch this "Move on , Judy. I have." Jd[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 136 v 81 :-)-Original Message-From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 23:35:00 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor -

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm

Don't teach them about Bread Change God's word Maybe banana chips would be a good Translation for BreadJudy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you for once deign to explain your own meaning Lance rather than put it off on others? What makes you think they understand any better than I

Re: [TruthTalk] Another baseless Accusation...

Nothing new under the sun.Logsdon himself said: Any earnest inquirer can check out these things for himself. He will be surprised how much mud-throwing has been done by those who want to sell there modern cheap wares.http://www.tecmalta.org/tft122.htmJudy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm

Many words had to be changed as they hadn't such things in their culture (Just a Ruse to enable the fox into the henhouse. Once inside they will gut the place. Notice all the missing words in the new versions Notice Whole missing verses Notice the whole ending of Mark 16 Missing Notice

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm

The new versions do not just UPDATE the language they use a DIFFERENT underLYING Greek Text. As you have seen with your own eyes it is a CORRUPT GROSSLY DISFIGURED!Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you for once deign to explain your own meaning Lance rather than put it off on

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

Sorry Judy, Lance isBUSY watching TVJudy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now this is "comedy" time - for sure. JD reflecting a combination of exegesis, exposition, and theological instinct? You have just categorized the things you hold most dear and JD reflects them when he will not even

Re: [TruthTalk] Perry Dave: inquiring minds want to know

maybe you Three should start a Church yourselves. Trinity UNbelievers ChapelLance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: CD:You sound an aweful lot like the 'Church lady' (SNL).You are always invoking the name of Satan and, demonstrating a remarkably low level of discernment? Sadly, I acknowledge

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm

More Mud slinging and LESS objective REASON for Rejecting the KJV I guess Lance is saying if a bunch a WhakO's like you use it I'll avaoid it.Seems like a level headed REASONED Response to me. What a scholarly presentation too!By the way did I miss your CRITICal thinking in your post?

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

He is talking about the NUance of the greek idiom Yet the Nuance does not INSERT the whole word "BEING" The Greek word for "Being" is neither in the Textus Receptus NOR the 27th Corrected Greek of N/A (I checked the 26th also NOT THERE!) The word as given hagiazo in the text, is in the formof

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

accusative masculine plural [Friberg] - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 5:52 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisorWhat is the greek word in the text, that is to BE translated into "

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

[Friberg] - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 5:52 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisorWhat is the greek word in the text, that is to BE translated into "BEING" in hebrews 10:14?[EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

A Participle can be either a NOUN or a VERB thus it is called a "verbal noun" Passive voice simply means it recieves the actionPresent is similar to the english "present tense" as a fact or reality that occurs in time. The past tense in english mightbe rendered as "historical presents" in the

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor

Notice Lances reasoned refutation of Judy below! So this is an example of how the KJV is in error Bill?Context Lance! Judy "what color is your car Lance?" Lance "my favorite TV show is CSI" CuNADIANS are Shure InTELEgent Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes Virginia, there

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm

Baked or MASHED?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FYI it was sweet potatoe .- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: November 22, 2005 08:17 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm Don't teach them about Bread Change God's word

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The Holy Spirit is NOT able we must help him, like UZZAH!Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what has all this got to do with the ministry of the Holy Spirit. God can save by few or by many and what is too hard for Him? Believe it or not the Holy Spirit is bilingual also.On Tue,

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m having a little difficulty empathizing. :-)Blessings!Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christine:For your consideration:Think globally. Consider every believer and, the 'translation' from which they are reading. How many are reading the KJV. What are the implications? ----- Ori

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We are only asking: what are your personal qualms with the version? Let me try to help Lance out. In the spirit of one of his earlier reasoned responses: Anyone care to explainhis MEANING to Christine?Christine Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Lance, I think you are forgetting that Judy and

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm

sider every believer and, the 'translation' from which they are reading. How many are reading the KJV. What are the implications?- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: November 21, 2005 17:59 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htmIf yo

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor - TT'ers

or the Amplified Bible translation or that he was an actual employee of the Lockman Foundation. He did not claim to be "co-founder" of the NASV. -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 04:38:06 -0800 (PST)S

Re: [TruthTalk] corrector/revisor - TT'ers

: This is exactly why I do not accept anything that Kevin says as authoritative. When you rip a person's comments out of context, you can pretty much make a case for anything and you have done just that. -Original Message-From: Kevin Deegan openairmission@yahoo.comTo: TruthTalk

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So we do not have Christs words at all? Since all we have are these "family of documents" which do not contain His words.You have basically said we DO NOT HAVE THE WORDS OF CHRIST! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:You assume these are the words of Christ. The translators are not deleting the

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm

MayI qoute you?"Move on , Judy. I have. "Case closed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:You forgot "and be sure to cut and run when the opposition asks us question that we cannot answer without admitting problems with our point of view." -Original Message-----From:

Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htm

al Message-From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 05:17:49 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Emailing: NIV.htmDon't teach them about Bread Change God's word Maybe banana chips would be a good Translation for BreadJudy Taylor [EMAIL PROTEC

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"THEM THAT ARE" which is not in the text as separate words. So what is your point?In regards to the other modern texts that fall inline with how the KJV translators did it... GOOD POINT!Peace be with you.David Miller.- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To:

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So the two different translations are BOTH True? You see the same meaning conveyed by: NIV because by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy.KJV For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.One transaction is complete One is not,

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