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2005-10-10 Thread knpraise
    David  --  in the past,  I have not done well in comparing notes on logic:with you and I know it.   So I have decided to limit my comments to my forte  --  what the book says and how it has practical or meaningful application in our world and in our lives.   I have much to learn, in this regar

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2005-05-25 Thread knpraise
David -- why did you send this to me?   I am mising something.    -Original Message-From: David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Wed, 25 May 2005 11:38:24 AM Eastern Daylight TimeSubject: (no subject) Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: [TruthTalk] Fond Farewells- Salva

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2004-07-29 Thread Judy Taylor
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 9:39 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [TruthTalk] (no subject)   I may not measure up to your standards Jonathan but I am what I am by thegrace of God and if I am naive, then that's how it is at least for now. I am not holding anything over anybody.  This is a public li

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2004-07-29 Thread Terry Clifton
Jonathan Hughes wrote: Hi Judy,   I have a book entitled “Adventures in Missing the Point” by Brian McClaren and Tony Campolo.  Although I doubt you would enjoy the book I love the title.  It is no secret that you have had run-ins with nearly every single person on this forum

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2004-07-29 Thread Jonathan Hughes
begged of you, is to illustrate grace to others on this forum in the same way God has illustrated His grace to you.   Jonathan   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 9:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] (no

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2004-07-29 Thread Judy Taylor
I may not measure up to your standards Jonathan but I am what I am by the grace of God and if I am naive, then that's how it is at least for now.  I am not holding anything over anybody.  This is a public list and all of you are free to contribute/share your own light.  I have challenged and

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2004-07-29 Thread Knpraise
As I see it, Bill is a litle too thin skinned.   Having said that, I must add the belief that the observation really doesn't matter much if offense has been taken.   I felt Jonathan was not only too thin skinned but wrong in how he understood some of my comments.   But clearly, he was offended. 

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2004-07-29 Thread Jonathan Hughes
: Thursday, July 29, 2004 8:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [TruthTalk] (no subject)   Bill, appears to have made his decision to depart which is sad because once again he has judged my motives which is something only God is capable of doing with any accuracy.    I find the questions

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2004-07-29 Thread Judy Taylor
Bill, appears to have made his decision to depart which is sad because once again he has judged my motives which is something only God is capable of doing with any accuracy.    I find the questions below to be valid ones and each time I challenge Bill I do so  hoping that he will be able t

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2004-07-28 Thread Wm. Taylor
m not biting.   Bill     - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 5:07 PM Subject: [TruthTalk] (no subject) With the words, "Be fruitful and multiply," we may know that we were created for relation

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2004-07-28 Thread Judy Taylor
With the words, "Be fruitful and multiply," we may know that we were created for relationship, both with God and our neighbors. This is koinonia: fellowship, giving, sharing,  participation, communion, community. Prayer is relational, too, you know. When Jesus left the crowds he did not lea

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2004-07-28 Thread Wm. Taylor
Jesus left the crowds he did not leave these things behind. He kept them fully intact, presenting them whole to his Father.    Bill - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] (no

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2004-07-28 Thread Wm. Taylor
ssage - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 12:11 AM Subject: [TruthTalk] (no subject) Bill, you wanted to see where I was going with this &

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2004-07-28 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 7/28/2004 6:03:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Having said that, I think you may have unwittingly put God in a box by assuming that He always wants His followers (or his animals) in continual close contact.   Abraham was a nomad, not a member of a communit

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2004-07-28 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 7/28/2004 2:27:07 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The reason it's blue and underlined is because it's one great big link to send email to TruthTalk. Should this ever happen again, convert your email to PLAIN TEXT (found under "Format" at the top of the window

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2004-07-28 Thread Terry Clifton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill, you wanted to see where I was going with this "image" thing. Here it is. Krugers idea regarding "fellowship" as being the very essence of God has nearly force these ideas into my thinking and the result is as follows: (for some reason I cannot change the

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2004-07-28 Thread Slade Henson
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, 28 July, 2004 02:28To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] (no subject)Sorry about the transmission.  I neither wrote the piece in blue and underlined

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2004-07-27 Thread Knpraise
Sorry about the transmission.  I neither wrote the piece in blue and underlined, but it actually had paragraphs and the like. The wording is the same, however so all is not bad (apart from the paper itself). John In a message dated 7/27/2004 11:12:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PRO

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2004-07-27 Thread Knpraise
Bill, you wanted to see where I was going with this "image" thing.  Here it is.  Krugers idea regarding "fellowship" as being the very essence of God has nearly force these ideas into my thinking and the result is as follows:   (for some reason I cannot change the color of the text so I hope the

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2004-07-19 Thread Dave
DAVEH:  Sorry to take so long getting back to this, Perry.  Seems like there is always more pressing things with which to deal. Charles Perry Locke wrote: DaveH, do you think these two verses are referring to the same thing, or to different things? How does this affect your understanding of 1

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2004-06-10 Thread Dave
Charles Perry Locke wrote: DavidH wrote: I do intend to do some studying of the passage when I get time.  I simply don't have the time to deal with it right now. Excellent. I look forward to hearing from you on this when you get the time. I gave you a nod to

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2004-06-10 Thread Charles Perry Locke
DavidH wrote: I do intend to do some studying of the passage when I get time. I simply don't have the time to deal with it right now. Excellent. I look forward to hearing from you on this when you get the time. I gave you a nod to the effect that you produced some viable evidence that I intend

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2004-06-09 Thread Dave
Charles Perry Locke wrote: DaveH, do you think these two verses are referring to the same thing, or to different things? DAVEH:  I don't know, Perry.  I received it just before I had to go to work this morning.  I got home (picked up nephew Jeff at the airport this evening) tonight at nearly

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2004-06-09 Thread Charles Perry Locke
DaveH, do you think these two verses are referring to the same thing, or to different things? How does this affect your understanding of 1 Peter 4:5,6? David, the reason I did not want to take the time to search out other references that support my understanding of the 1 Peter verses is that doi

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2004-06-09 Thread Dave
Charles Perry Locke wrote: DavidH, read Ephesians 2:1. Reconcile it with 1 Peter 4:5. Are they referring to the same thing, or to different things? DAVEH: Very good, Perry. There is some evidence to support your beliefs..Thank you for sharing it! In Peter 4:6, I believe that the 'dead' ar

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2004-06-09 Thread Charles Perry Locke
DavidH, read Ephesians 2:1. Reconcile it with 1 Peter 4:5. Are they referring to the same thing, or to different things? From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] (no subject) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 2004 00:33:25 -0700 Charles

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2004-06-09 Thread Dave
Charles Perry Locke wrote: The Holy Spirit put the words in Paul's mouth...I just read them. Are you calling me the Holy Spirit? :-) DAVEH:  That's what I find interesting about learning what you think, Perry.  The Lord's servants were divinely inspired, but I wonder

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2004-06-08 Thread Charles Perry Locke
From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Charles Perry Locke wrote: So, all are without excuse. It is not necessary that one has heard the gospel to face the judgement, or to be redeemed, for that matter. It appears that ALL have had the opportunity to know and worship God, either through the gospel, or

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2004-06-07 Thread Dave
Charles Perry Locke wrote:   So, all are without excuse. It is not necessary that one has heard the gospel to face the judgement, or to be redeemed, for that matter. It appears that ALL have had the opportunity to know and worship God, either through the gospel, or for Paul's stated r

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2004-06-07 Thread Charles Perry Locke
From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> After reading vss 15ff..., I just don't see why you think these apply. When vs 18 says /all/, it is referring to/ ungodliness/ and /unrighteousness/. That is distinctly different from *those *who are ungodly or unrighteous. As vs 16 infers, salvation i

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2004-06-06 Thread Dave
Charles Perry Locke wrote:    After reading vss 15ff..., I just don't see why you think these apply.  When vs 18 says /all/, it is referring to/ ungodliness/ and /unrighteousness/.  That is distinctly different from *those *who are ungodly or unrighteous.  As vs 16 infers, salvation i

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2004-06-04 Thread Charles Perry Locke
From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> After reading vss 15ff..., I just don't see why you think these apply. When vs 18 says /all/, it is referring to/ ungodliness/ and /unrighteousness/. That is distinctly different from *those *who are ungodly or unrighteous. As vs 16 infers, salvation i

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2004-06-04 Thread Charles Perry Locke
himself evident to everyone, first by that which is manifest in them and, second, He is made evident in His creation. Perry From: "Slade Henson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] (no subject) Date: Thu, 3 J

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2004-06-04 Thread Lance Muir
If it wasn't my response should have been: 1. yes 2. no 3. no - Original Message - From: Dave To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: June 04, 2004 03:25 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] (no subject) Charles Perry Locke wrote: From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&

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2004-06-04 Thread Lance Muir
the aid of the Holy Spirit, with themselves. It just doesn't happen. I believe that many live in denial of this apparent reality.  - Original Message - From: Dave To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: June 04, 2004 02:57 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] (no subject) Lance Muir

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2004-06-04 Thread Lance Muir
1. yes  2. no - Original Message - From: Dave To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: June 04, 2004 02:57 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] (no subject) Lance Muir wrote: 1. yes 2. no 3. noDAVEH:  Thanx for your direct answer, Lance.  May I question you a bit further. 1

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2004-06-04 Thread Dave
Charles Perry Locke wrote: From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Charles Perry Locke wrote: 1)  Do you believe all men will have the opportunity to accept Jesus? No. 2)  Do you believe there are any mortals who do not get that chance while in mortality?

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2004-06-03 Thread Dave
Lance Muir wrote: 1. yes 2. no 3. no DAVEH:  Thanx for your direct answer, Lance.  May I question you a bit further. 1) Do you believe all men will have the opportunity to accept Jesus? 2) Do you believe there are any mortals who do not get that chance while in mortality?

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2004-06-03 Thread Slade Henson
: [TruthTalk] (no subject) In Romans 1:17ff Paul says "The just shall live by faith. For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath s

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2004-06-03 Thread Charles Perry Locke
From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Charles Perry Locke wrote: In Romans 1:17ff Paul says "The just shall live by faith. For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is ma

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2004-06-03 Thread Charles Perry Locke
DAVEH wrote: ??? How can you perceive it as a second chance IF they never had a first chance prior??? Let me ask it this way, Laura..do you think God gives everybody a FIRST chance to hear the gospel and accept Jesus? IOW..do you think there are any mortals who never had the chanc

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2004-06-03 Thread Lance Muir
1. yes 2. no 3. no - Original Message - From: "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: June 03, 2004 10:37 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] (no subject) > > > Charles Perry Locke wrote: > > > In Romans 1:17ff Paul says "The just sha

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2004-06-03 Thread Dave
Charles Perry Locke wrote: In Romans 1:17ff Paul says "The just shall live by faith. For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath

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2004-06-03 Thread Lance Muir
if they do not hear from US they will hear from HIM. - Original Message - From: Dave To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: June 03, 2004 09:59 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] (no subject) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/2/2004 11:34:28 PM Central

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2004-06-03 Thread Dave
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/2/2004 11:34:28 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH:  Ignore for a moment your concern for a second chance after death.  (That is a different discussion, Laura.)  Do you believe those who do not have the chance

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2004-06-03 Thread LaurHamm
In a message dated 6/2/2004 11:34:28 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH:  Ignore for a moment your concern for a second chance after death.  (That is a different discussion, Laura.)  Do you believe those who do not have the chance to accept Jesus while in mortality, will h

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2004-06-03 Thread Charles Perry Locke
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] (no subject) Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2004 21:32:36 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/2/2004 9:53:56 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH: I'm hung up on

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2004-06-02 Thread Dave
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 6/2/2004 9:53:56 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH:  I'm hung up on it because I find the popular Christian perception to be very interesting.  To me it is obviously

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2004-06-02 Thread LaurHamm
In a message dated 6/2/2004 9:53:56 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH:  I'm hung up on it because I find the popular Christian perception to be very interesting.  To me it is obviously symbolic, but to most Christians it seems to be a literal lak

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2004-06-02 Thread Dave
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DAVEH:  I'm hung up on it because I find the popular Christian perception to be very interesting.  To me it is obviously symbolic, but to most Christians it seems to be a literal lake of fire.  Yet (to me) it seems so illogical.That a loving God would pun

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2004-06-02 Thread LaurHamm
DAVEH:  I'm hung up on it because I find the popular Christian perception to be very interesting.  To me it is obviously symbolic, but to most Christians it seems to be a literal lake of fire.  Yet (to me) it seems so illogical.That a loving God would punitively punish people who never had th

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2004-04-11 Thread Terry Clifton
He is risen. The most important three nwords ever spoken Terry