Hi,
I wrong wrote the source of brltty systemd service, right source path is
/lib/systemd/system/brltty.service.
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Hi Luke,
Thank you your answer.
If I would like doing a custom live CD with containing custom a11y
settings, not matter if both enabled the RUN_BRLTTY=yes and BRLTTY
systemd service? What the better preference way? The Systemd service
enabling or the RUN_BRLTTY=yes preference in live CD
Hi Luke,
In xenial need enabling the /etc/default/brltty file the RUN_BRLTTY=yes
configuration key after the updated package awailable in Xenial repository?
When need using this setting preference?
What the difference the RUN_BRLTTY=yes configuration setting the
/etc/default/brltty file and
Hi Milton,
Sorry, I forgot to wrote you yesterday with magnifier support in GNOME
Shell again working. Yesterday lands in Trusty-updates repository with a
gjs new upstream version with resolves the wrote crash related issue if
magnifier support turned on.
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I forgot to wrote the magnifier support related check box possible
awailable only if you using GNOME Shell.
For example if you installing gnome-session-flashback package and in
Lightdm selecting the gnome flashback session, in GNOME Control Center
Universal Access preference pane the magnifier
Not need turning on the magnifier support to you see effect this keystrokes?
Be careful with following thing:
Possible only my system happening my Intel GMA X3100 video card, but if
I turning on screen magnifier support when using GNOME Shell, Gnome
Shell producing a crash.
After magnifier
Hi,
I think I possible founding what the real problem, very crazy if this is
real true:
If unity-gtk3-module and unity-gtk2-module installed a system (this is
the case with basic installation), and the actual session is not Unity,
the F10 key press blocking the proper module for example with
Hi,
I reported the wrote issue with following report in Launchpad:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/at-spi2-core/+bug/1257623
If anybody would like marking this bug affecting he too, please open
following link, default the Yes radiobutton selected, only need
activating the change
Hi Luke,
My Ubuntu Saucy I experienced a very interesting issue, I tested only
the problem with Orca master version.
I using GNOME Shell classic mode. When I installed the system, I used
the access=v2 profile, because my wife using screen magnifier support.
When I launch any application with
Hi Luke,
I tryed fixing this issue in espeak main package to revert the sonic
related patch and pulseaudio chunk related patch.
When I downloaded the espeak source package from saucy archive, I ran
quilt pop -a command and remove the two patches with
debian/patches/series file.
I have got a
Hi,
My local system I resolved the wrote problem.
I downloaded the Espeak source package in Saucy, and removed
/debian/patches/series file the sonic and Pulseaudio related patches.
My system I using since morning the modified Espeak package and not
happened any distortion with Orca and
Hi Luke,
I installed my wife with Ubuntu Saucy the lov wision profile, she using
GNOME Shell with screen magnification support.
In the Ubiquity GTK frontend I found a dialog part with have some
accessibility problems with Orca:
The manual partitioning related dialog (need selecting other
Hi,
I reported with Firefox 25.0 experienced problem with Ubuntu 12.04
related in Bugzilla, link is following:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=940862
If anybody would like writing other testcases with experienced a11y
related issues with not exists Firefox 24.0, feel free write a
Hi,
In Gnome Terminal the F10 key doesn't activate the Terminal application
main menu. This is interesting why happening, because in the Edit menu
awailable Shortcut preference pane the F10 key related check box is enabled.
In Ubuntu 13.10 and Ubuntu 14.04 development release following packaged
Hi,
Yesterday I installed Ubuntu 13.10 my my wife computer.
She using GNOME Shell 3.8 classic session with Screen magnifier support.
I experienced an interesting thing with some time happening my notebook too:
Some time the logout operation not work after the logout button
activated, default
Hi,
This day morning Firefox upgraded with latest 25.0 release my Ubuntu
12.04 machine.
After the upgrade, the browser me machine is unusable with Orca.
An example webpage with I experienced this issue:
http://www.origo.hu/hirmondo/techbazis/internet/20131029-4g-re-gyur-a-telekom.html
This
Hi,
Me not have problems the Radiotray indicator usage with Orca in Ubuntu
12.04. Only difficulter task the radio stations editing, need using
flatreview command to click the prober button to add radio stations to
the station list.
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Hi cad,
Radio listening related:
You tryed radiotray indicator? In Ubuntu 12.04 I use this indicator.
I think default enable this indicator with Ubuntu repository the newest
releases too. Possible you need enabling the universe and multiverse
repositories.
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Ethanak, thank you your answer. Future what research need doing if
longer time period would like prowide hungarian users alternate
hungarian voices any speech sinthesis? If this is possible, better
prefer opensource solutions. Now, only Espeak awailable with supports
good hungarian language
Hy Don,
I am not full sure, but I think Pico TTS doesn't support Svox Classic
TTS voices, but possible this is already changed with newest Ubuntu
versions. Currently Svox Pico TTS supports following languages (I looked
with Ubuntu 12.04 the /usr/share/pico/lang directory):
German, english (GB and
Hy,
With Android awailable the Svox Classic TTS engine, this TTS have
natural sound persons I think with 24 languages, hungarian language is
awailable this engine.
With Ubuntu repositoryes I think only the Svox Pico TTS awailable.
Possible using the Svox Classic text to speech engine anyway an
Hy,
Canonical publicate some exciting articles with future awailable Ubuntu
phones and tablets related.
Some links:
1. http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/tablet
The Ars Technica article this topic related:
Hy Vojta,
I tryed this version now, results equals the login screen related.
I reported this issue with following bug report, hopefuly I reported the
experienced issue with good bug tracker:
https://jira.skype.com/browse/SCL-931
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Hy,
This day my Ubuntu 12.04 system upgraded with Skype from 4.0.8 version
to 4.1.0.20 version, but the proposed repository awailable my system.
When the upgrade is happened, the old installed skype package are
removed my system, and a new skype-bin package are installed.
Ubuntu partner
Hy Nolan,
I think better fill this issue upstream level in bugzilla.gnome.org if
you are registered in Bugzilla and need attach a debug.out file.
If you not have Bugzilla account, I will report welcome this issue next
week if you tell you how can reproduce this issue.
What desktop environment
Hy,
I downloaded yesterday with Ubuntu 12.10 current daily live CD. I have
got an Alva Satelite 570 braille display. Prewious Ubuntu 12.04.1 live
CD wonderful detecting this braille display, launch proper with Brltty
service, and possible using Orca braille support with native Brltty or
I doed now an installation with Ubuntu 12.10 Beta1 image (beta2 and
higher daily Quantal images the installer are inaccessible after the
first language selection screen).
My first think to make an Orca debug.out file to see have any Brltty
related traceback error messages or not. Unfortunately
-translation, Thanks to Hammer Attila
- Fixes to fr-bfu-comp6.utb and fr-bfu-comp8.utb thanks to Michel
Such michel.s...@free.fr
- Fixes to no-no-g3.ctb thanks to Lars Bjørndal
l...@lamasti.net
Liblouis 2.5.1 release containing following bug fixes, released monday
evening:
The liblouis
Hy Alan,
Your openion better have chance land Liblouis latest upstream release
officialy with next developing cicle both Ubuntu and Debian Sid? Beta2 I
think very near for Ubuntu perspective.
I packaged my Precise PPA with latest Liblouis release, I used original
upstream version and I think
Hy,
In Precise partner repository Skype upgraded with 4.0.0.8-0oneiric1 version.
This version native with qt-atspi how can possible accepting keyboard
with incoming calls? Have any useful shortcut for Skype 4.0 with
accepting incoming call?
If I remember right oldest releases in the options
Hy Vojtech,
Ok, but how can I known what contact searching me? :-):-)
I will be try this.
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Hy,
I reported downstream level with the Nautilus rename operation related
bug and attach based from upstream gnome-3-4 branch commits a quilt patch.
My local system I tested now the patched Nautilus package, and Orca
right possible handling the rename entry widget.
Downstream bugreport link
Hy,
The file rename related problem is resolved in Nautilus 3.4 branch and
master branch:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=672498
So, Orca spokening entry content with rename, create document, create
new folder edit boxes. Unfortunately this change happened after Nautilus
3.4.2
Hy,
My upstream report Ryan Lortie wrote following comment:
hi Attila,
This is not a bug in dconf, but rather in metacity. The bug no longer
exists because metacity switched to using GSettings a while ago (which
is quite a lot more strict when it comes to checking types vs. the schemas).
Not gsettings-data-convert service generating some time not right
converted data during the conversion when converting Metacity related
keybindings?
Why happening lot of type mismatch this situation with more old metacity
keybinding gconf keys?
Example output if I run gnome-control-center
Hy,
Try you switch off the side pane in the view menu. My experiences if
side pane is turned off, Nautilus presenting more faster for example the
HOME folder content.
I reported this issue with following report:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=673632
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If anybody experiencing the described keybindings related issue, looks
following:
Existing your ~/.gconf/apps/metacity folder?
If yes, remove the ~/.gconf/apps/metacity folder and restart the system.
Before you doing this, what output seeing in terminal if you run
gnome-control-center
Hy,
Not full sure this, but I experienced this problem first with Orca
3.4.0, so I think this
problem is independent the proposed update.
I reported this issue with following report since april 2th:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/971316
Unfortunately Orca debug.out file not showing any
Hy Ethanak,
Yes, this is an another problem, if you switch a new language the
installation, localization switch I think not full happening. Orca
querying rolename related information with at-spi2 now, so this is
important.
For example, if I prewious used Ubuntu 12.04 with english language,
Hy Ethanak,
I reported both two experienced issues in a joined report. I pasted your
letter with first problem description, hopefuly the developers possible
fixing you experienced issue too.
bugreport link is following:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/990438
If anybody would like, click
Hy Jude,
I think not this simbol producing this problem.
Looks for example Orca hungarian translation file similar lines with
works perfect:
#: ../orca.desktop.in.h:1 ../src/orca/app_gui_prefs.py:215
#: ../src/orca/keybindings.py:104 ../src/orca/orca_gui_splash.py:49
#:
Hy,
Possible everybody already known, Unity Greeter presenting awailable
indicators in the login screen.
If an user press F10 key, land the devicemenu indicator, with usual have
following menu items:
1. Suspend.
2. Shut down.
I found a little bug, with I don't no what the proper component
Possible you true, I using GNOME3 fallback session, not Unity.
In Unity2d real not the device menu the first selected indicator, and
some time need using ALT+F10 key to access indicators, not normal F10
key, for example the desktop this is true.
But the shutdown menue related problem in Unity
Hy,
Forgot I wrote:
When I now tested again my installed system the problem, not passed the
access=v3 boot parameter, so the problem is possible independent this
boot parameter.
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Hy,
I only recompiled at-spi2-core gnome-3-4 branch source.
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Hy Vojtěch,
With you experienced Orca tabs related issues is a GTK3 bug, already
reported but not fixed yet. Unfortunately now I not found the bugreport
link.
With Libreoffice related problems will be resolve I think the
at-spi2-core package upgrade with upstream 2.4.1 release.
I using
I confirm with José wrote.
In startup applications preference tool not have any checkable applications.
I installed all updates my system.
Testing purpose I removed my home directory the
.config/autostart/libcanberra-login-sound.desktop file, after this I
start startup applications preference
Hy Krisnakant,
This is a timing issue I think with at-spi2 and Orca related, some time
Orca not loading right scripts for some apps with first start. This
situation forexample not loaded right the Soffice script when you
launched with the Libreoffice Calc application, and want handling the
Hy Krishnakant,
This is very simple:
Launch for example Libreoffice Writer.
Goto tools menu, and activate preferences menu.
In the default focused tree view press two down arrow key, you will be
land the memory related preferences. Search TAB key the enable quick
start check box, and if this
Hy,
If you have same experiences, click following links, choose yes radio
button, and choose change button.
1. Language support preference dialog is inaccessible with Orca Screen
reader:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/976444/+affectsmetoo
Same results have if
Peter, not.
Few days prewious in Keyboard Layouts page have more tabs:
Language, formats, etc.
The language page tab possible changing for example the system language,
but now in the layouts dialog only have layouts list, add keyboard
layout, use the same layouts for all windows radio button,
Sorry, I wrote wrong the package, right package name is
gnome-session-fallback.
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Hy Dave,
If other users not have another ydeas, I have got some suggestions:
Nautilus have some magical but wonderful gsettings keys wwith possible
toggle show in the desktop some icons:
To present computer icon in the desktop:
gsettings set org.gnome.nautilus.desktop computer-icon-visible
Hy,
I am not yet an experienced Unity 2d user, I begin using Unity 2d with
testing purposes few days ago.
If I activating in Unity 2d the launcher with ALT+F1 key, choose for
example Ubuntu Software Center and press right arrow, Orca spokening
again Ubuntu Software Center and spokening menu
Hy,
Yesterday Joanie fixed with an Orca braille module bug with Indicator
main categories related:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=673648
The problem is following:
Orca sending right the selected main indicator categories with the
braille display, but after the right text
Hy,
Andy, José, thanks the confirmation. You using Orca when looked the test?
Unfortunately the problem happening too if Orca not running I think.
When I tryed searching HUD with Gedit preferences menu and pressed ENTER
key, TAB and SHIFT+TAB not moved preferences dialogue widgets until I
not
Hy Peter,
I absolute agree your comment, and reported following bug in GTK+:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=673557
Hopefuly will be general fixing GTK developers this issue.
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Hy,
I installed with python-pyatspi2 with 2.4.0+dfsg-0ubuntu2 package
version with normal upgrade.
After the installation Orca unable to import pyatspi module my Precise
system. Anybody be carefuly until this bug is not fixed and not install
upgrades.
I reported this issue under Launchpad
Hy José,
Very sorry the confirmation.
Unfortunately the workaround is little difficult and not elegant.
I doed following commands in a live system to verify the package build,
you use own risk your installed system:
1. sudo apt-get install devscripts
2. sudo apt-get build-dep python-pyatspi2.
Hy,
Nnow in Ubuntu Precise the checkbox-qt package are default installed.
Both the QT interface and the old GTK interface the readonly textview
widgets the caret navigation are disabled, Orca doesn't speak selected
lines with arrow key movements.
I reported this issue in Launchpad, and
Hy Krishnakant,
You don't need a daily build if you have an installed Ubuntu 12.04 system.
Launch simple the check box application in terminal the checkbox
command, and try read the read-only textview content with down arrow key.
If you would like trying the gtk interface, install checkbox-gtk
Hy,
Luke fixed with python-pyatspi2 related bug, upgrade is safe again.
Thank you Luke the fix,
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Hy,
I looked casper source package the ubiquity-hooks/30-accessibility script.
I see the script not copying existing user already customized Orca
settings in the target system /var/lib/lightdm/.local/share folder, new
created username home directory the copying happening right.
I reported this
Hy,
Because my machine random time Orca launching and exiting in Unity
Greeter, I very would like making a debug.out file to correct
determining what happening this situation in Orca level before I report
a bug with proper place, Launchpad or upstream.
When this problem is happening, this
Hy,
Because I not known better possibility, I change temporary with running
hardcoded Orca command in unity-greeter source package with
src/menubar.vala file and recompiled Unity Greeter package.
Look what showing the debug.out file when this problem are happening.
Don't surprise, I not
Hy,
I now reported with apport an at-spi2 registrid crash:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/at-spi2-core/+bug/967991
I don't no this issue are valid or not, because I not possible saying
reproducation steps unfortunately.
I experienced only following issue in Unity Greeter in LightDm:
Hy,
Some time I suspending my laptop when I goto a short time an another
office, or lock the screen.
When my machine resume from suspend, not happening password request. Of
course, importanter check boxes in GNOME Control Center/brightness and
lock preference tool is checked.
After I archived
Hy,
I reported the saturday wrote problem from casper package, attached a
video with demonstrate what happening if
com.canonical.indicator.datetime show-calendar setting value is true.
I attached a patch with change the setting value from true to false with
low vision and blindness profiles.
Hy,
Hopefuly following information not too later sharing:
If the com.canonical.indicator.datetime show-calendar value is true,
after the caret lands in the Date indicator second unlabelled menu item,
keyboard focus is grabbed.
I don't no visualy the caret moving up or not, but Orca keyboard
Hy,
Sorry, but I forgot wrote:
I experienced this keyboard focus grabbing related issue Under GNOME3
fallback session, I using Indicators presenting with
indicator-applet-complete package.
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Hy,
I reported two other indicators related bugs:
1. In user menu after guest session menu item have a silent menu item
with Orca not possible identifying:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-session/+bug/960999
2. Default network indicator main menu not have label or
Hy,
Now, some indicator main menues and menu items not have mnemonic
letters, but mnemonic letters some time fasting the navigation with
screen reader and keyboard with visual impaired users.
Some examples the future advantages:
If future have a mnemonic key for example the messages indicator
Hy Luke,
You remember, I wrote following bugreport with main menu focus issues
related:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=654410
If an user pressed F10 key, Orca don't spokened the first main menue.
I installed now all awailable updates my Ubuntu 12.04 system, GTK3
components are
Hy Luke,
CTRL+S works correct, thank you the answer.
I have got some question and experiences, sorri if my questions is
trivial, but I now using first LightDM with accessible login feature.
1. How can possible choosing different user? If I press arrow keys,
usual hear give my username
Hy,
I see happened an upgrade with Casper package, to migrate LightDm a11y
settings with GSettings, because Unity Greeter using GSettings.
When I try use an installed system in terminal the sudo -u lightdm
gsettings set com.canonical.unity-greeter screen-reader false command, I
get
Hy,
Because I haven't got other ydea some time why stored invalid keybinding
settings in .gconf/apps/metacity folder, I reported the prewious wrote
problem with Metacity related:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/metacity/+bug/955876
If anybody known the right component, please
Hy Luke,
If I see right, in qt-at-spi source the src directory need marking
translation the role names in src/constant_mappings.cpp file.
Look some lines:
qSpiRoleMapping.insert(QAccessible::NoRole,
RoleNames(ATSPI_ROLE_INVALID, invalid, QObject::tr(invalid role)));
Hy,
Not often, but some time my Precise system forgot usual keybindings
preferences.
This situation usual GNOME Panel is crashed with following error, with
already reported:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/851532
After this crash happening, impossible using general keybindings
(ALT+F1,
Hy,
I switch english language, and look the error messages when I run
gnome-control-center keyboard command after I put back the buggy created
.gconf/apps/metacity folder:
GConf Error: Type mismatch: Expected `string' got `list' for key
/apps/metacity/window_keybindings/move_to_workspace_left
Hy,
I have got a possible trivial question:
How can possible enable again the succesful login sound with an
installed Precise system if an user using screen reader?
I tryed the startup applications preference tool. GNOME login sound
service is presented, but unfortunately I see only following
Hy,
In Ubuntu level possible fixing following GTK3 bug until upstream level
not fixed this bug?
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=654410
See the last comment of the developer.
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Hy,
I see following issue since thursday or friday my Precise system, I
using Precise with GNOME3 fallback session.
I don't no why, but general shortcuts doesn't work. Typical examples are
ALT+F1, ALT+F2, ALT+TAB, ALT+F4.
Of course, this shortcuts are setted in GNOME Control Center Keyboard
Hy,
I doed now with Ubuntu 12.04 installation, without manual partitioning.
I try look possible setting LightDm related a11y settings in terminal.
I try run sudo -u lightdm gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface
toolkit-accessibility true command, but this command don't working.
Try similar
Hy,
In precise if I run usb-creator-gtk or gksu usb-creator-gtk command, the
USB Startup Disk Creator application UI interface is inaccessible with Orca.
What happened this application? This application not using a standard
Gtk3 UI interface?
Already reported this issue in Launchpad?
When I
Hy,
I tryed a think my precise live CD with this problem related, and
resolve this problem:
If passed the access=v3 boot parameter, casper-a11y-enable script create
a file with named a11y-sudo in the /etc/sudoers.d directory.
If I remove this file, gksu and gksudo launch correct the GUI
Hy,
I tryed now In Precise the Skype application with the latest officialy
awailable QT Accessibility Bridge.
Some experienced issues, with I don't no possible fixing with QT
Accessibility Bridge side:
1. If I activate the main menu button, Orca doesn't see awailable menu
items. Equals issue
Hy,
I see in unity-greeter application following change in
changelog.debian.gz, quote a little part:
unity-greeter (0.2.0-0ubuntu1) precise; urgency=low
- Fix Orca not starting when enabling screen reader (LP: #850554)
This is mean LightDm already supports accessible login with Orca Screen
Hy,
Future need reinstalling my Precise system, and unfortunately in live
environment unable to launch GUI applications with gksu or gksudo
command prefix, I get can not open display error message.
My question:
This situation how can possible installing Precise development release
with Orca
Hy,
I think I possible found why happening this issue my generated custom
live CD'z.
Prewious, I disabled the GFX boot logo in isolinux/isolinux.cfg file,
and pass access=v3 parameter in isolinux/txt.cfg file.
I doed this because I presetted default with hungarian language my CD's
and want
Hy,
I doed only a minimal modified Precise based live CD based with current
awailable daily live CD.
I only changed the default session with GNOME3 fallback session,
installed the required dependencies and hungarian language related packages.
I booted the live CD with passed access=v3
Hy,
Jeremy, thank you the confirmation for Unity too.
Rob, unfortunately su -c command suggestion doesn't help. After I change
root password and run for example su -c gedit command, I get following
error message the live CD:
EggSMClient-WARNING **: Failed to connect to the session manager:
I tryed gksudo gedit command. Unfortunately I get following error message:
Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: pixmap,
Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: pixmap,
Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: pixmap,
Hy Penelope,
Thank You the tip, I of course have Launchpad account.
If not a big request, can you possible doing this task?
Unfortunately I haven't got enough experiences yet with proper viki page
documents related formattings sintax, and don't would like doing extra
works with documentation
Hy Dave,
Feel free you put with you worked final steps with a Wiki page, I am not
have accessing yet any Wiki page. Of course if you suggest me a Wiki
page with have public editing possibility, I welcome doing this.
To any user possible doing a good working fallback session style
Luke, this problem is partialy not related following GTK3 bug?
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=654410
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Hy,
Some time, I don't no why if I using Speech-dispatcher with Ubuntu
11.10, after longer time usage random time the Espeak speech begin
distorting, and only possible resolving this problem if I kill
Speech-dispatcher and restart again.
I using Speech-dispatcher with native Pulse driver for
Hy Bill,
I tryed your last attached patch with my Oneiric system, The patch works
wonderful with Orca master version. Thank you this patch.
I attaching now a git diff command generated patch.
Beginner users easyest appliing this patch, if already downloaded for
example with Orca master
Hy,
Now, have Oneiric related with the following opened bug:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/724369
Prewious not ready the Indicator Applet porting with GNOME3, so not
awailable in GNOME3 fallback session the oldest Natty awailable
Indicator applets.
I see this bugreport a possibility.
If
Hy,
I see an another interesting issue:
If I launch GNOME Control Center, choose keyboard layout preference tool
and select a layout with layouts page, the awailable buttons are have
perhaps only button label, or Orca only reading this label because not
have setted the A11y related
Hy Everybody,
In GNOME Control Center application lot of preference tool dialogs
unfortunately GNOME Developers not associated the labels with real
widgets with mnemonic_widget property, or not associated the
accessibility property for widgets need labels.
The typical easy resolvable dialog
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