I disagree that we have dodged the fallout from subprime lending tactics by
lenders. The city has been going through a massive increase in foreclosures,
much of it resulting from predatory lending. The mortgage market is no longer
local and mortgages have become commodities traded on Wall Stree
Whoa, I thought the prior responses dealt with all of your questions. Look at
it this way, assuming your argument is not totally for meaningless exchange,
how do you propose to implement your proposed policy, i.e. to ban newspapers
from endorsing candidates, supporting or opposing legislation,
Glenn,
1. Nice try, but you're no Ross. This comes off as juvenile sexism. Or is this
part of dog culture?
2. Would you please consider an abstract or table of contents at the beginning
of your lengthy posts? That way, those who don't want to dismiss messages based
on the subject line, neve
Well, she was responding to my question to you. In your response, you
referenced reviewing this like campaign contributions. So are you suggesting
that your proposed remedy could be legislation to prohibit newspapers from
endorsing candidates? If not, what do you have in mind?
Paul
--
S,
Well, I'm still not sure what you're recommending, but then again I guess
maybe the reason for my questions has not been too clear either. I'm certainly
no expert on this, but I think the underlying problem is how you can control
the editorial content of a newspaper. The government can't b
But there is supposed to be some sort of unofficial balloting conducted
outside of the polls by the casino opponents. According to the paper, the
banned proposal would prohibit placement of a casino from virtually the entire
city.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
Glenn,
Could you please explain what you mean by your words in context:
1. tone
2. code of silence (I understand this in police and mob contexts, but not here)
3. the gang (who's in the gang, how do we know it exists, and does it meet?)
4. ban
"Some freely include tone, or breaking th
It was in Frank's previoius message: <>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; UnivCity@list.purple.com
Sent: Wed, 16 May 2007 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [UC] ad hominem
This post is a classic. I would not say this often, but really examine this
post. T
Might want to consider if being vague would've been worse S.
Q: Did anyone hear about a crime that occurred late at night over the weekend
in the neighborhood? I'm just trying to track down the origin of this hearsay
from a neighbor.
A1: I heard that there was an armed robbery Friday at t
Or 5. Other people were there and set up Knox posters while we were setting
up.
C'mon folks, as much as you like to engage on this topic, the list serve is not
conducting an investigation, much less an evidentiary hearing. This (not S's
post, but the whole discussion) is Exhibit A on the be
The clothes pin stairs have been getting rebuilt for several weeks now, so
maybe at least one of your peeves will be improved.
-Original Message-
From: SKnight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Sent: Sat, 26 May 2007 6:59 pm
Subject: [UC] Clean? The SEPTA Concour
They also owned an apt house near 47th and Chester and have, I understand,
sold it earlier this month.? It's too soon for the transaction to show up in
BRT or Hallwatch, but perhaps one of our RE experts has access to more current
records than those of the city.
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OK guys, I'm not interested in checking your DNA or eyelids, and knowing we
have given Ross literary license in the past, but yes, I must say, the least
you can do is put your racial slurs in quotation marks to suggest you realize
they are indeed racial slurs.? Or perhaps not, as? I'm not sure
Very true.? And again, no serious investigation will be conducted by reading
newspaper articles.? They are only the reporter's rendition of the facts,
second hand.?
-Original Message-
From: Kyle Cassidy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; UnivCity@list.purple.com
Sent:
<<
Do you really have such serious literacy and comprehension problems or are
you an addicted UCD cheerleader trying to obfuscate legitimate discussion of
this serious matter? I doubt that I can take you seriously much more if you
don't stop your pathetic cheap tricks at confusion.?
?
Maybe
I think it would have been more disturbing if they had failed to answer a
call of suspicious activity and missed an opportunity to prevent a crime from
happening.
It's not clear what sort of investigation you would have liked to have
seen after the fact, but I'd be surprised if they
Since you're all into fishing for herring, allow me to cast my hook.
First, it helped me understand some posts when he said it was an obvious
polemic.? It reminded me of ideological skirmishes of years gone by, and also
of the term sophistry which I would hear at the same time.? I know
Don't be concerned with the "fee simple" stuff - it's just your basic deed.?
Look for what property the city already owns in the area described and note the
ordinance calls for a subsequent sale at market value to a third party.?
-Original Message-
From: John Ellingsworth <[EM
Bizarre, that's all I can say. The issue presented at the outset was the
involvement of a non profit in partisan politics. You then mixed in the new
issue about community service being unconstitutional, slavery, etc. I was
responding to your commentary! I'm sorry for paying attention to
As I stated before, you're determining facts based on double hearsay - you
read what the reporter wrote about what someone may have told her. If there
were a good investigation, one thing it would do is have people interviewed and
actually asked the questions directly about what happened.
??? I know some people on the list may get into legal debates, but I'm not one,
really.? But I must tell you that quotation marks don't negate hearsay but
rather prove it.? And you're correct that newspapers are full of it.? That's
why you don't usually see newspapers introduced into evidence i
Al,
??? Can you share the citation to the law that makes non profit policies and
MO's matters of public record?? Thanks,
Paul
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Sent: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 7:46 pm
Subject: [UC] IRS Treatment of third-party informa
Al,
??? Why do you keep writing Lewis Wendell's name backwards?? If you need a
mnemonic, just arrange the names in alphabetical order.
Paul
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Sent: Sun, 3 Jun 2007 11:25 am
Subject: Re: [UC] IRS Treatment of
??? I love how you complain about other poster's discourse, then use the same
tactics you decry.? First, you were victimized by ad hominem attacks but have
no reluctance to use them on others.? Today, you fuss about straw men and then
adopt the method yourself.
?? What Al said: "1) As a tax-ex
??? The milling machine is really tall, and has to start out right next to the
curb.? At least one of the branches at that corner was sawed off.? Perhaps it
was evident that there was no way the machine could roll past those trees
without doing even more damage.
Paul
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Beg to differ Ms. O.C.
Most city streets are city streets. I think PennDOT only covers state
highways in the city, which can be recognized by their route numbers like 3, 13
and 611. Whether maintenance of the city streets is the province of the
Streets Dept or the Highway Dept I know not
I don't understand the reasoning behind #5. Non-profit means non-profit,
not neutral. Non-profits have missions to accomplish, agendas to support.
They may provide health care, food for HIV+, rescue dogs, support education,
assist crime victims, etc. It is not unusual that public poli
I don't know about you, but again this seems to me to be Exhibit T to show
that some people are not opposed to ad hominem attacks, they just object if
they are the target.?
Paul
Sanderson is just a jerk to proclaim this non
evidence as proof.? If he is the genius that Kathleen thinks he i
Dear Committeeman7:
?? OK, you've been called out at least twice.? Who are you??
??
Paul U
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OK, I am and disagree.? I think of affirmative defenses as not disputing the
truth of the allegations, but saying, essentially, so what??? Truth is an
absolute defense to slander, rather than an affirmative defense, because it
means the statement was not incorrect, and accurate statements by d
I think a better quote from Mao would be "no investigation, no right to speak."
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: univcity@list.purple.com
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 5:42 pm
Subject: Re: Community reps on the UCD board [was: Re: [UC] The UCD answer
OK, I'm game.? You I give credit to for genuinely creative writing.? That,
and you are capable of spelling my name correctly, unlike my buddy.? But the
real problem is that the Orientals left town soon after the Negroes.? Got it?
Sincerely,
pmuyehara
-Original Me
There you go again.
pmuyehara
pmuyehara
got it?
-Original Message-
From: Glenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; University City List
Sent: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 3:28 pm
Subject: Re: Debunking the hysteria RE: [UC] Question for
Where's the e-mirror when you need it?
I have recently learned that no matter what I say to this person, he will
1) misspell my screen name, 2) disagree with what I say, 3) attack me
personally rather than engage on the merits, 4) accuse me of conspiring
with others, profess to kno
ling my name correctly, unlike my buddy.? But the
real problem is that the Orientals left town soon after the Negroes.? Got it?
Sincerely,
pmuyehara
Dude, you can spell your name any way you want to, but just so you know, the
correct transliteration is "Uehara". T
[UC] Spinning out of control, was: Debunking the hysteria
Pmuyehara,
Sorry buddy. Please don't be mad at
me.
I think I got confused about your name back
when you never signed your messages. I thought, who is this guy always
taking pot shots at me becuse o
Whoa!? I'm so glad it's been a very busy week at work, the better not to
get sucked into this list volume.? What a frenzy!
? I don't know John (so far as I recall) but respect his seeming universal
support, even if his supporters seek to use the situation for different
purposes.?
Glenn,
If you really 1) want to get a response from the supposed addressee and 2)
really want the information, may I make a little suggestion or two? First,
SHCA is pretty easy to find on the internet. If you're (not your) not familiar
with search engines or Google, here's a link that yo
? I think the question is not who needs the services, but who can have them
or is able to pay for them.? Special services districts suggest in part a
failure of city services, to the extent that they provide for simple benefits
like street cleaning, graffiti removal, and safety patrols.? Th
I have a better suggestion:? losers can run for any office they choose, but
they can't post to the list for 7 years.
-Original Message-
From: Glenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Kyle Cassidy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; University City List
Sent: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:39 am
Subject: Re: [UC]
Well, I think you overlooked another possibility known to employment law:?
your employer doesn't say you're fired, but the law treats you as fired.?
Paperwork may say you resigned, for example, but evidence shows you were told
resign or be fired.?? Or all of your responsibilities are taken awa
Glenn,
How about sharing the complaint with the list?
Paul
-Original Message-
From: Glenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Sent: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 4:30 pm
Subject: [UC] The FOCP complaint
Neighbors,
Earlier today, I hand delivered a written com
I thought I saw Marty's name on the board list for UCD when I checked earlier
this month.
I understand he was very present at the first Thursday with Jannie.
Seems like he should have been the usual suspect for the committeeman7
message. Right?
Paul
-Original Message-
From:
<>
That's mind boggling.? As much time as he spends posting to the list, he must
spend the rest of his waking hours engaging in face to face meetings so he can
fast talk people.? Hard to believe.
Paul
-Original Message-
From: Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: UnivCity@list.purple
Wasn't that you that announced you planned to file a complaint with the IRS if
UCD didn't make progress on the issue?? Glenn also.
Also, did either of you file complaints or otherwise notify the IRS of alleged
problems with UCD conduct?
Paul
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PR
What is the safety problem that the fences will provide protection against.?
Off leash dogs?? And how much risk will result from installing fences for the
kids to run into?
Paul
-Original Message-
From: Glenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Jim Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Turner,
Dude,
If you think my post was a pot shot at you, I'd say you are being a tad
self centered.
My suggestion was based on the reporting of what happened at the meeting.
We know Marty works for Jannie, that Jannie showed up at the meeting apparently
intent on raising a fuss about John
I think the article, to the contrary, suggests that Tony obtained
the quote about John not cooperating "later" which would explain why
people at the meeting didn't hear it said. The prior reference sounds
like it was taken from the statement he read at the meeting.
Bigger question, f
I think they did the finish work on at least the first block below
Baltimore several days ago, at least the jack hammer part.
I saw a contractor staple a sign on a little tree on 4600 Hazel.
The big question is, why are they repaving in the first place? If they
really wanted to spend money for i
??? I may not have been clear.? It's not about other people being personally
involved, its about one person being personally involved, who happens to be a
reporter - Tony.? The others were not writing newspaper articles.? Tony is
totally involved in the UCD issue, at least in the list world.? H
Neighbors,
??? In a couple of posts, I have surmised that Marty may be Committeeman7.?
Since it may not have been apparent in the posts, I want to clarify that I had
no reason to think that Marty actually was the poster.? I meant to suggest that
it made sense that someone allied with Jannie woul
Just a heads up Glenn, so you don't go mis-making a federal case: I've
seen a good number of press releases, and they have never been signed. They
usually do have a contact person listed, but its not in the form of a letter.
Did you ask UCD for the releases? Hint: don't call her
Oh yes, I agree that the owner is primarily responsible for the sidewalks.? I
don't think that bars the city from doing it, as they seem to from time to time
to improve an area.? I'm just saying new sidewalks would be much better for
most of us on the milled streets than new streets.
Paul
??? Jack hammer crews are working west on Hazel from 46th (and, by the sounds
of it, Cedar Ave as well) cleaning up from the milling.? A few people have left
their cars on the block and workers are ringing bells trying to find them.? I
haven't seen the tow trucks like they did for the milling, b
As it turns out the crew was only on Hazel. The 4600 block of Cedar
was not milled to begin with. I'm pretty sure they did mill Cedar
starting at 47th. If you take a look over there, whether I'm suffering
a false memory re Cedar will be revealed, and signs will be posted
indicating when th
And yes, they don't cut it down from the bottom, but from the top.? They are
able to do this with little space to work in and without dropping too much to
the ground.? I still can't get over these guys cutting limbs with a chain saw
held in one hand, arm extended.
-Original Messag
??? Neighbors,
??? I was so enjoying the calm on the list for the past few days.? With the
extra time I had not reading UC messages, I refinished an antique desk, rebuilt
a '39 Ford V-8, installed the AC's, and cleaned all the windows.? And got to
the Woodlands on Saturday and Sunday.
??? On Sat
I recommend Robert Ludwig.? You can find him in the phone book or Google.? His
office is around 20th and Locust.? I've used him for court cases as an expert
on RE value, and personally as well.?? He's also familiar with the neighborhood
and lived around here for awhile.?
Paul
-O
Which if true doesn't address Kathleen's point as to the source of the
information - the former employer, the employee or the new employer.
-Original Message-
From: UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: University City List
Sent: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 6:36 pm
Subject: Re: [UC]
Although signs were posted early this week, I was surprised to see
large city crews had begun paving this morning. I thought we might wait
for months for the paving crews. They were getting ready to start
46th, going south from Baltimore. No idea what the route is, but cars
not moved when
? Actually, the paulownia trees were removed last year because they had
exceeded their lifespan.? The tree killers planned to plant temporary trees
when the square reopened.? A new batch of paulownias were being allowed to
mature off site.? I don't know if they have been planted in the squa
Neighbors:
? If your car is parked on a milled street, please pay attention to where
the UCD paving crews are working.? Don't be surprised if your car disappears or
gets paved over.? (And speaking of disappeared, has anyone seen Ross lately??
I'm afraid he got loaded and left himself on the
Proposal: pay respects to the dead, and speak no ill of it.?
Response: I said discussion can't help them, not that it can't hurt them.? So
I'll just keep discussing.
And by the way, when are you going to let us in on your inside joke about
intentionally writing the man's name backwards, time
Paranoid indeed!? Helpless indeed!
But let's begin at the beginning in the fight back!?
Let's ask Them, in a single voice: what were the times, dates and locations of
the 27 meetings at which the paving decisions were made and what were the
times, dates, locations and font sizes of the notic
So that's it!!
The Santa Claus image is a mark.? Dig there and I'm sure you'll find 1) a straw
man? 2) Ross? 3) a red herring or 4) a box of civility.? Have your snowballs
ready in any case.
If you get locked up for digging up the new street, well, take responsibility
for yourself.
A name.
Wow.? I knew you'd understand.
You're name.
-Original Message-
From: Glenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; UnivCity@list.purple.com
Sent: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 11:12 am
Subject: Re: [UC] Move your cars! Fight the conspiracy!
Now you're starting to get it.?
3) if you have to assume, you should assume that he was at will.? Job
contracts are the exception.? Absent a union or civil service protections, and
whatever restrictions that may be imposed by internal policies, they don't
really need a valid reason to fire, so long as its not a prohibited re
??? I'm mystified by your conception of the functions of a Human Resources
department, which suggests some benevolent neutrality or duty to protect
employees.? I've never heard such a definition.? HR is a management function,
which is there to help the company, not the workers.? If it seeks to
Leila,
Thanks for sharing the warning.? Do you know how they are reaching the second
floor windows?? Are these above the porch roof?
Paul
4600 Hazel
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From: Leila Graham-Willis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: pfsni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; uclist
Sent: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 1:
Neighbors,
??? As is typical for our list, people are tending to exaggerate on both ends
of the issue: either there is no issue (characterized by the "that's what the
delete button is for defense" which posits that anything goes is a suitable
standard of conduct) or that the new list is anti-dem
Thank you for responding Kimm.?
And now for something completely different: Michael Smerconish writes in
the paper today about new words "hatriolic" which he never defines but claims
credit for inventing.? Somehow, it sounds like a good bunch of posts here.
??? And better, "bloviate"
?? I totally disagree Frank, unless the "out in public" you refer to is
other e-communication systems.? I think 85% of the problem is that e-mail frees
many people of normal social constraints.? People will e-attack when they would
never do so in person, or not in the same inappropriate man
Glenn,
I'm pretty sure I mentioned recently that the worst offenders never see
themselves as part of the problem. We've seen some examples in the past few
hours, you and Tony included, buddy.
Paul
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From: Glenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
??? This is really interesting.? I thought Al was the kind of guy that loves it
when people are free to do their own thing, free of social constraints.? Is
this some kind of liberal flip flop?
?? And, as I think I've mentioned before, one of my examples of childish
behavior is intentionally rev
Apparently we disagree Frank.? You are a delete man, I favor constraints on
civility.? I'm not so concerned about the positions that people take, but that
they do so in a socially appropriate way.? I don't think having to filter out
all messages from a particular person who tends to be unable
I take this that you don't credit my views, and those who agree with them,
that it really is the behavior and not the content.? Of course, it's difficult
to define civility, but apparently most of us agree we can know it when we see
it.? My question for you is, do you indeed stand in support o
S,
OK, I realize I'm posting so much I'm in danger of having to call myself out as
a big mouth, but I'll leave it to the handful of posters to do that for me if
its safe.
I'm glad that you agree with at least one of my thoughts.
I do need to say, however, that you have erroneously called ou
Not to mention that you have his e-mail address from old posts.
-Original Message-
From: Vincent/Roger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; UnivCity@list.purple.com
Sent: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 11:03 pm
Subject: Re: [UC] www.sweetbarkingcheese.com. -- contacting Kyle
CS,
??? You are so funny!? I might be clued to a health issue if he randomly
reversed people's names.? He only does it to one person and it is quite
intentional.? I didn't know he was an old man anyway, or is that some other
baseless speculation?? The best part is thinking we'd ever run short
No, I'm not sure Frankus.? I am confident, however, that this list will not do
anything to try to get members to follow any standards, or to get the vast
majority of those who are silent members to contribute.?
Paul
-Original Message-
From: Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: UnivC
??? I can't disagree that in some cases the uncivility cuts both ways.?
Although one could argue about offensive and defensive hostility, its not
likely to be worthwhile.? OTOH, you seem to concede the impossibility of
reining in the anti-social conduct here.? If that be the case, the question
Sarah,
Sorry to hear of your burglary.? I'm wondering about the location of the
window that was cut and whether anyone was home.
? Liz had posted earlier about one of her neighbors confronting burglars at
his front door in the middle of the night who had been ringing the bell first
to
Please Al.?? Loree Jones is not in the Streets Department.? She's the Managing
Director.? And would someone explain why people are e-mailing her, as if she
can tell SEPTA what to do?
Paul
(don't say it)
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Se
Melanie,
Your minutes and Al's posts don't disclose whether Al or anyone else asked the
Lt. why he was using a UCD card. Did anyone actually ask him or better yet,
criticize him directly?
Paul
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: univcity@list.purple.com
Sent: Fri,
Thanks for the clarification of the story.? But if I understand the essence of
the analysis by you, Karen, et al, the point was worthy of public airing even
though I don't disagree that it was civil to raise the issue privately.? Also,
there are lots of police personnel with business cards.? I
I must have missed something before in this discussion.? So Penn owns the
UCD office space and it also owns the separate PPD space.?? And Penn may or may
not be charging rent to UCD and PPD?? And UCD may or may not be paying the rent
for the PPD space to Penn?? No, wait, you're saying UCD
We use Girsh Alarm in Elkins Park.? 215.782.9911.? Monitoring is a little less
than $25/mo.? Service has been unremarkable.? If the alarm goes off, they call
cops and house.? One bad experience with an ill mannered installer, otherwise
no problem.
Might be worth inquiring if you can control h
Actually, while it may be that in court you don't disclose your strategy, you
do disclose your evidence and issues before trial.? The evidence comes out in
discovery and the issues should be framed in the pleadings.
Paul
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: univcity@
Al,
??? Do me a favor and stop baiting Melanie and then making us watch your
exchanges.? It looks like there may be some SHCA board members on the list; why
not let them reply?
Paul
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: UnivCity@list.purple.com
Sent: Tue, 23 Oct 2007
Two thoughts:
??? 1.? What does $400/mo get you?? That does seem like low rent for the area.?
Are there lots of apts that go that cheap?
??? 2.? I don't see the contradiction between Omar's claim about Radian's units
undercutting high end off campus units and the high rents Radian charges.?
S
Wilma,
His brother told me that the opening is on January 21, a date selected by the
family as propitious for the opening. It will be the only Monday they are
open, since that will thereafter be the one day they are closed each week.
Paul
-Original Message-
From: Wilma de So
They took my recycling today but left the trash.
Paul
-Original Message-
From: Wilma de Soto
To: Glenn ; UnivCity listserv
Sent: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 8:21 pm
Subject: Re: [UC] Illegal trash update
I put the trash and recyclables today after checking last
Dave, if you think people don't deserve time and a half for working on
Saturday, that's fine, but don't think paying it is some sort of cave in to
labor.? You ought to be surprised if people don't get extra pay for working on
the weekend.? Isn't that the way it ought to be?
And Tony, I don't
Well, the newspaper notice always says that collections will be a day late for
the rest of the week, so I always thought that meant Friday routes were done on
Saturday.? How else could it be done?
-Original Message-
From: Anthony West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: UnivCity listserv
Well, that's a lot of words which still ends up sounding like you don't want
trash collectors to get time and a half to work on Saturday.? Overtime pay
really doesn't have anything to do with pensions and health care.
Paul
-Original Message-
From: Dave Axler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kimm,
This all sounded like an interesting late night attempt to rationalize
criticism of Tony for inquiring about who has standing in zoning issues with
the ZBA. So we learn that renters feel marginalized and looked down upon.
Until I got to the end and thought about it.
Tony has
Wilma,
?? I think it's natural to consider that what happens behind closed doors is
suspect and bad.? But that's an assumption.
?? Luckily, the other list has not had much discussion on the hotel.? It would
be annoying to have to sort through stacks of cross posted messages!? I can
assure you
OK, so if you're just saying everyone who lives here is entitled to an
equal voice on the matter, that's fine. I just think if you're troubled that
students are heard, because they tend to be more transient, I think it's hard
to then say you should ignore the differences between owners a
UC:
??? Interesting point which suggests two corollaries:
??? ?? 1.? Some people would change positions to support or opposition if the
building had a different intended use - residential, classroom, or yoga - but
was in the same location and had the same size.?
?? 2.? You can't compare t
Al,
??? The only confusion I have is about your point.? Maybe you snipped in error,
but nothing in the article provides a foundation for your insinuation that Penn
is hiding kickbacks by calling them contributions.? I have major issues with
marketing done by banks to college students for credi
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