Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-11-18 Thread brainchild
cpd73 wrote: > Just published a very early 0.0.1 release - see > https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?117099-Announce-Melodeon > for announcement. That's great, and while saying so probably seems to be beating a dead horse, I appreciate the publishing of the Debian package.

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-11-18 Thread cpd73
Just published a very early 0.0.1 release - see https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?117099-Announce-Melodeon for announcement. *Material debug:* 1. Launch via http: //SERVER:9000/material/?debug=json (Use http: //SERVER:9000/material/?debug=json,cometd to also see update messages,

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-11-18 Thread brainchild
RobbH wrote: > But that approach made for a misguided and unhelpful response to you. > What was needed was simply to read what you wrote and refrain from > inferring anything. This exchange has been a good reminder that that > should always be an option. > Yes, quite right. Even a slight

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-11-17 Thread RobbH
brainchild wrote: > Perhaps my enthusiasm about expressing a solution I considered as an > ideal, and one which I think others might also share in principle, > whether or not having considered it, appeared as a demand or rejection. Thank you. That may have contributed to our misunderstanding,

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-11-17 Thread brainchild
cpd73 wrote: > What makes you think Electron is any more generic than Qt? It's fine. I wasn't being critical. I think I probably have tied Qt more closely than is accurate to KDE, due to a historical association.

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-11-17 Thread cpd73
brainchild wrote: > May I ask why you chose to use a solution based on Qt, instead of a more > generic one, such as a direct use of Electron? What makes you think Electron is any more generic than Qt? Qt runs on Linux, Windows, macOS, Android, iOS, and more. Electron, AFAIK, is more about

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-11-17 Thread brainchild
RobbH wrote: > Guilty as charged! I thought I had inferred what you wanted and found a > way you might achieve that. My inference was wrong and I apologize. Perhaps my enthusiasm about expressing a solution I considered as an ideal, and one which I think others might also share in principle,

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-11-17 Thread brainchild
cpd73 wrote: > The "qwebappwrapper" is working (barring any bugs), and you can (and I > already do) use this to access LMS. The newer app takes this one step > further, makes it LMS specific, and adds features such as auto-discover > of LMS and MPRIS (so that player controls, etc, are shown in

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-11-17 Thread cpd73
brainchild wrote: > Yes. Thank you. I think my original impression was that a working > version was still forthcoming. If there is, in a sense, a phase that is > already working, perhaps it would help to explain the difference between > it and the part still under development. The

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-11-17 Thread brainchild
cpd73 wrote: > As previously stated I have already written a Qt-based wrapper - this > was to allow any page to be installed as a web-app. Now grated this > means creating a .desktop file, but that is fairly easy (and an example > LMS .desktop file is provided). Although not Electron based

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-11-16 Thread cpd73
brainchild wrote: > Some of the suggestions were to migrate the existing web page into a > distributable wrapper, such as one built through Electron. Doing so is a > development project in its own right, which would benefit the community. > That it would be distributable and of benefit to more

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-11-16 Thread RobbH
brainchild wrote: > Discussing what I generally am able or willing to do to my own > system was not the reason I opened the discussion, and (without > recalling every detail that I shared) I might suggest trying to avoid > making inferences to such effect Guilty as charged! I thought I

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-11-16 Thread kidstypike
brainchild wrote: > Some of the suggestions were to migrate the existing web page into a > distributable wrapper, such as one built through Electron. Doing so is a > development project in its own right, which would benefit the community. > That it would be distributable and of benefit to more

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-11-16 Thread brainchild
RobbH wrote: > There have already been some misunderstandings in this thread, and I > think we now have another one. I cannot speak for others who have posted > suggestions, but when I posted the directions for manually installing > SqueezePlay, I was under the mistaken impression that you

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-11-16 Thread RobbH
brainchild wrote: > It would be quite nice if someone were interested in maintaining and > distributing a project on behalf of the community. > > I think just mentioning ways that someone might attempt it, however, has > become off topic. > > Thanks for the references, though. Perhaps it

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-11-14 Thread chicks
cpd73 wrote: > Ah, I set an initial size of 1024x768. What I need to do is check the > screen size, and set this appropriately. Yes, that update works. piTouch™ w/JustBoom DigiHat -> RME ADI-2 DAC FS -> JBL 305P MkII monitors; LMS 8.2 on piCorePlayer/Pi 4; Material Skin.

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-11-13 Thread cpd73
chicks wrote: > Also builds and runs under Armbian Linux on the 'Inovato Quadra' > (https://www.inovato.com/). Not quite fitting the 7" 1024X600 display, > cut off at the bottom, seems to think it's in portrait mode. Ah, I set an initial size of 1024x768. What I need to do is check the screen

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-11-13 Thread chicks
Also builds and runs under Armbian Linux on the Inovato Quadra. Not quite fitting the 7" 1024X600 display, cut off at the bottom. 39112 +---+ |Filename: dqDDgoKWQ8Od1hFk61SdlA.jpeg | |Download:

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-11-13 Thread chicks
cpd73 wrote: > For what its worth, I've started writing a Qt based wrapper app for > MaterialSkin - see https://github.com/CDrummond/lms-material-app-qt This > is similar to my Android APK, in that it is a wrapper around a WebView > that adds extras such as server auto-disovery, etc. Its in its

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-11-13 Thread cpd73
For what its worth, I've started writing a Qt based wrapper app for MaterialSkin - see https://github.com/CDrummond/lms-material-app-qt This is similar to my Android APK, in that it is a wrapper around a WebView that adds extras such as server auto-disovery, etc. Its in its early stages, but

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-11-11 Thread brainchild
manx wrote: > Nativefier (github.com/nativefier/nativefier) is a little open source > program which allows you to turn any website/URL into an app with native > integration. It uses Electron/Chromium and provides many options. It's > easy to use. > WebCatalog (webcatalog.io) is even easier to

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-11-10 Thread manx
brainchild wrote: > Thank you for the responses. > > I understand that Material Skin is a single-page web application that > may be served from LMS or stored on a client. For a cleaner style, it > may be preferred to load it from an application that operates as a > standalone wrapper. In

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-11-06 Thread chicks
brainchild wrote: > Thank you for the responses. > > I understand that Material Skin is a single-page web application that > may be served from LMS or stored on a client. For a cleaner style, it > may be preferred to load it from an application that operates as a > standalone wrapper. In

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-11-06 Thread RobbH
brainchild wrote: > Thank you for the responses. > > I understand that Material Skin is a single-page web application that > may be served from LMS or stored on a client. For a cleaner style, it > may be preferred to load it from an application that operates as a > standalone wrapper. In

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-11-06 Thread brainchild
Thank you for the responses. I understand that Material Skin is a single-page web application that may be served from LMS or stored on a client. For a cleaner style, it may be preferred to load it from an application that operates as a standalone wrapper. In principle, the application might be

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-19 Thread cpd73
brainchild wrote: > Someone mentioned that -Material Design- is a web page that may be run > without a browser or even an Electron shell. I would like to understand > this better. Material -Skin- being a single-page Javascript web-app requires a HTML redering engine - which a browser or

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-18 Thread Michael Herger
I, too, would like to understand how a web page could be "run" without a browser! It can't. But there are a few ways to hide the fact that it's running a web page. Electron is one of them. Many popular apps nowadays are written using web technologies (JS, HTML, CSS), eg. Spotify, Slack, VS

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-18 Thread RobbH
chicks wrote: > Just for grins, installed Squeezeplay on my ChromeBox. While it's > nicely suited to 7" touchscreens, it really isn't a desktop app. The > Material Skin, saved as an "app", is far more intuitive and easier to > navigate with a mouse. > > Agreed. But it does require a

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-18 Thread chicks
Just for grins, installed Squeezeplay on my ChromeBox. While it's nicely suited to 7" touchscreens, it really isn't a desktop app. The Material Skin, saved as an "app", is far more intuitive and easier to navigate with a mouse. 38920

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-18 Thread RobbH
SqueezePlay running on Linux Mint 20.3 (sorry, I haven't upgraded to 21 yet): 38917 Although it COULD be playing music on the computer on which it is running, at present it is simply controlling a player in a different room. Installing it is straightforward, following the directions on the

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-18 Thread brainchild
slartibartfast wrote: > Which Windows desktop front end are you referring to? So many different variations of the theme have crossed my path that I can't keep it all straight anymore. brainchild's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-18 Thread slartibartfast
brainchild wrote: > It seems Logitech had supported only Windows and MacOS officially for > desktop front ends. Which Windows desktop front end are you referring to? Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-18 Thread brainchild
RobbH wrote: > Where was this mentioned? I do not find any mention of Material Design > in this thread, before your post. (I searched for the word "design" in > this thread and your recent post was the only thing that came up.) Seems I wrote -Material Design-, instead of -Material Skin-.

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-18 Thread RobbH
brainchild wrote: > Someone mentioned that -Material Design- is a web page that may be run > without a browser or even an Electron shell. I would like to understand > this better. Where was this mentioned? I do not find any mention of Material Design in this thread, before your post. (I

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-18 Thread brainchild
Someone mentioned that -Material Design- is a web page that may be run without a browser or even an Electron shell. I would like to understand this better. brainchild's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-17 Thread Man in a van
I seem to have solved the start up problem :) 38908 ronnie +---+ |Filename: Screenshot from 2022-10-17 10-32-10.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=38908|

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-17 Thread kidstypike
Jivelite was developed for a touch screen interface, although it does work using a pointer on a desktop PC it's slow and awkward to navigate. Why attempt to use Jivelite when there's the excellent "Material" plugin available? A few screen examples - 38904 38905 38906 38907

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-17 Thread Man in a van
@brainchild This morning, whilst eating my porridge I installed Jivelite on an old Shuttle computer running Linux Mint 20.3 I used the same build procedure that I utilised on an O2 Joggler running Debian Bullseye. I have to start it with a command line instruction in the terminal (on the

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-16 Thread Michael Herger
Does the SqueezePlay controller have control over only the local player, or any on the network? SqueezePlay is the software initially created to run on Controller/Radio/Touch. But it's available for desktop computers, too. As its name says it's a player. But it can also be used to control

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-16 Thread chicks
brainchild wrote: > To be clear, "LMS GUI" refers to the web page that is served by LMS when > a browser requests from the machine on which LMS is running, correct? > MATERIAL SKIN CAN CONTROL ANY OF YOUR RENDERERS, INCLUDING SQUEEZELITE, UPNP, CHROMECAST... 38902

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-16 Thread RobbH
brainchild wrote: > I am running Linux Mint 21 on an x86 laptop. > > What I have come to understand is that Jivelite is targeted for a player > device such as a RPi running piCorePlayer, and that Squeeze Player is a > desktop application that functions as a player for a media server, not a >

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-16 Thread sodface
Greg Erskine wrote: > I can read this 2 ways. :) > > The most significant point is the "material" skin plugin. It's a vast > improvement over the standard skin. It is maintained almost daily. I > think it is fair to say that "material" is taking over from the numerous > apps that have been

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-16 Thread Greg Erskine
brainchild wrote: > To be clear, "LMS GUI" refers to the web page that is served by LMS when > a browser requests from the machine on which LMS is running, correct? I can read this 2 ways. :) LMS GUI refers to the web page(s) that are served by LMS. There is a little web server built into

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-16 Thread brainchild
Greg Erskine wrote: > hi brainchild, > For control on any computer with a browser I would use the LMS GUI with > the "material" skin plugin. > To be clear, "LMS GUI" refers to the web page that is served by LMS when a browser requests from the machine on which LMS is running, correct? Paul

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-16 Thread chicks
The Material Skin is excellent, can be made to "look and feel" just like a native Linux app easily enough. I use it on my ChromeBox and on my iPhone most every day to control any/all of my squeezelite endpoints. I don't really see a need for a native app, at all. YMMV. piTouch™ w/JustBoom

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-16 Thread Paul Webster
The O2 Joggler is X86 running Linux. The source code for Jivelite is available. There is a lengthy thread about building Jivelite for Joggler. This might be a good starting point https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?110040-Jivelite-on-a-Joggler=932520=1#post932520 As stated in a few

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-16 Thread Greg Erskine
hi brainchild, Like Ronnie, I am a bit slow as well. As Squeeze/LMS is a very mature product it has hundreds (thousands?) of options, with lots of confusing names. LMS has had 3 or 4 different names. For control on any computer with a browser I would use the LMS GUI with the "material" skin

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-16 Thread castalla
brainchild wrote: > Of course I can use it. I am just asking whether a native alternative is > available, for Linux, as there has been for Windows and MacOS, that > remains well maintained and easy to install. > > > > Yes. I was just being completely thorough, in light on various comments, >

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-16 Thread brainchild
Man in a van wrote: > I'm a bit slow sometimes, but why can you not use the LMS web interface > ? Of course I can use it. I am just asking whether a native alternative is available, for Linux, as there has been for Windows and MacOS, that remains well maintained and easy to install. Man in a

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-16 Thread Man in a van
brainchild wrote: > I am running Linux Mint 21 on an x86 laptop. > I'm a bit slow sometimes, but why can you not use the LMS web interface ? And I thought Linux Mint has been x64 only, since 20 :confused: As I said, I'm sometimes a bit slow :o ronnie

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-16 Thread brainchild
kidstypike wrote: > Good luck finding that for which you seek, with an attitude like yours > you'll need it. I am only trying to understand what is currently available. I have preferences and constraints just as everyone else. There is no need for you to invoke a judgmental tone.

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-16 Thread kidstypike
brainchild wrote: > I am running Linux Mint 21 on an x86 laptop. > > What I have come to understand is that Jivelite is targeted for a player > device such as a RPi running piCorePlayer, and that Squeeze Player is a > desktop application that functions as a player for a media server, not a >

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-16 Thread brainchild
sodface wrote: > There may be a package available for the distro he's running, but unless > I missed it, he hasn't provided that info. I am running Linux Mint 21 on an x86 laptop. What I have come to understand is that Jivelite is targeted for a player device such as a RPi running

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-16 Thread sodface
RobbH wrote: > But there does not appear to be a jivelite build that's compatible with > brainchild's (presumably X86) Linux computer. There may be a package available for the distro he's running, but unless I missed it, he hasn't provided that info.

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-16 Thread markiii
just create a captive browser session that runs material only, its way netter anyway unless you want VU, metres PiCorePlayer 8.2 on Allo Digi One Signature (Lounge) PiCorePlayer 8.2 with Hifiberry Digi+ Material running on PI for control (Office) PiCorePlayer 8.2 with pi official touchscreen

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-16 Thread RobbH
kidstypike wrote: > A Raspberry pi is a Linux computer, it isn't necessarily a player only. > > Jivelite *is* a standalone Squeezebox controller. It does not run in a > web browser. But there does not appear to be a jivelite build that's compatible with brainchild's (presumably X86) Linux

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-16 Thread kidstypike
This is jivelite running on a Windows box. 38898 +---+ |Filename: jivelite.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=38898|

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-16 Thread kidstypike
brainchild wrote: > Yes, I found the download location on SourceForge. > > There is one file for download in the Linux folder. It is called > `jivelite-0.1-20170220gitde9ea58-fbdev-armv6hf.tar.gz`, indicating that > it is target for devices of Arm architecture, which excludes personal >

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-16 Thread brainchild
Paul Webster wrote: > Jivelite > https://sourceforge.net/projects/lmsclients/files/jivelite/ Yes, I found the download location on SourceForge. There is one file for download in the Linux folder. It is called `jivelite-0.1-20170220gitde9ea58-fbdev-armv6hf.tar.gz`, indicating that it is target

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-16 Thread sodface
What linux distro are you running? Here's a screenshot of jivelite running on Alpine in a tiling wm. +---+ |Filename: 2022-10-16-131313_1920x1080_scrot.jpg| |Download:

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-16 Thread Paul Webster
Jivelite https://sourceforge.net/projects/lmsclients/files/jivelite/ Paul Webster author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc australia and cbc/radio-canada and, via the extra \"radio now playing\"

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-16 Thread brainchild
Paul Webster wrote: > Jivelite / Squeezeplay can be run on Linux desktops. Would you please help me understand the overall scenario by naming an application I would run on a Linux desktop? brainchild's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-16 Thread Paul Webster
Jivelite / Squeezeplay can be run on Linux desktops. Paul Webster author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc australia and cbc/radio-canada and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin lots more -

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-16 Thread brainchild
cpd73 wrote: > I know you seem to be explicitly asking for a native app, but I use > Material Skin as a web-app on my KDE/Plasma desktop. I believe what you are describing is largely the same as I have done in the past for some applications using the Webapp Manager, available in Linux Mint.

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-16 Thread brainchild
HB64 wrote: > That's what jivelite does. We are not understanding each other. I am looking for an application that runs on a Linux desktop or laptop. Jivelite runs on a player device. How would it help with my request?

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-16 Thread cpd73
I know you seem to be explicitly asking for a native app, but I use Material Skin as a web-app on my KDE/Plasma desktop. I've written a (very) simple QWebEngine wrapper app that I use. (Previously used Chrome but this keeps breaking). To use this integrated into Plasma's taskbar/kickoff you just

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-16 Thread HB64
brainchild wrote: > Thanks for the response. > > It's not clear what this application does, but when I mentioned a Linux > controller, I had in mind an application to run on a Linux desktop or > laptop, to connect to the player or the media server, for the purposes > of controlling what to

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-15 Thread brainchild
sodface wrote: > What about 'jivelite?' (https://github.com/ralph-irving/jivelite) Thanks for the response. It's not clear what this application does, but when I mentioned a Linux controller, I had in mind an application to run on a Linux desktop or laptop, to connect to the player or the

Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LInux client (controller) currently maintained

2022-10-15 Thread sodface
What about 'jivelite?' (https://github.com/ralph-irving/jivelite) sodface's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19057 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=116934