[USMA:51281] Re: 2012 AP Stylebook Suggestion Form Now Open

2011-10-24 Thread G. Stanley Doore
John: Your recommendation is on target - km/h rather than kph. It's sad that correct useage is rejected by AP Stylebook editors. The AP editors are not in the real world. Keep up the good work! Regards, Stan On Oct 24, 2011 12:09 PM, John M. Steele jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net wrote: The

[USMA:51121] Re: Fw: Re: RE: decimal submultiple of a liter

2011-09-14 Thread G. Stanley Doore
John. The example you show below indicates how little thought is given to setting metric unit sizes and packaging of materials for space saving and transportation to help reduce costs. Kirkland was the only example with common sense. Thanks for raising the issue. You show how far we must

[USMA:51065] Re: planes collide

2011-09-04 Thread G. Stanley Doore
ISA, the lapse rate is fixed under ISA as 1.98 C up to 36090 (11000 m) where it's supposed to be constant. Obviously in the real world it changes which has an affect on performance. Mike Payne On 03/09/2011, at 13:57 , G. Stanley Doore wrote: The 1013.25 mbar (101.325 kPa) pressure

[USMA:51063] Re: planes collide

2011-09-03 Thread G. Stanley Doore
The 1013.25 mbar (101.325 kPa) pressure for altimeter settings is NOT arbitrary as Kilopascal Wiki write. The standard altimeter setting for worldwide altimeter settings was determined from the mean surface pressure level. Stan Doore On Sep 3, 2011 11:36 AM, Michael Payne metricmik...@gmail.com

[USMA:51052] RE: Tropical Storm Katia strengthening, moving northwestward: NHC

2011-09-01 Thread G. Stanley Doore
Your email shows how far behind editorial practices are from the real world and the International System of Unit (SI) symbols. The standard International System of Units (SI) symbols should be used everywhere. No deviations. This would simplify peoples' lives and understanding so people

[USMA:51048] Re: Tropical Storm Katia strengthening, moving northwestward: NHC

2011-08-31 Thread G. Stanley Doore
km/h should be used at all times since it is already the international standard in the International System of Units (SI). It time to begin to use the SI as the standard since the SI is already the accepted international standard and widely used. Regards, Stan Doore On Aug 31, 2011 6:18 AM,

[USMA:51022] RE: Millimetres of Mercury Millibars of air pressure.

2011-08-26 Thread G. Stanley Doore
Why not use the pascal instead of millibars? The numbers are the same although there is a shift in the decimal place. Regards, Stan Doore On Aug 25, 2011 2:40 AM, Martin Vlietstra vliets...@btinternet.com wrote: Hi John, The SI Brouchure (8th edition) has a section Non-SI units accepted for

[USMA:51005] Re: CNN uses km/h. Accident or new policy?

2011-08-21 Thread G. Stanley Doore
Including metric units in hurriane/tropical storm warnings is natural and a safety measure, especially for the Carribean. It makes U.S. weather warnings more universal and understandable since the warnings are also used heavily outside of the U.S. It avoids misintrepretation. Good move!

[USMA:47285] Re: mastery of the SI prefix logic (was Re: Re: Metrication in Africa)

2010-04-26 Thread STANLEY DOORE
It would have been better to introduce the more practical binary system of measurement rather the other bases since binary is an integral part of computers. It would have accomplished the same purpose of learning different bases. Octal should be included too. Stan Doore -

[USMA:47288] Re: rant-on-imperial-v-metric

2010-04-26 Thread STANLEY DOORE
Of STANLEY DOORE Sent: 26 April 2010 19:09 To: U.S. Metric Association Subject: [USMA:47284] Re: rant-on-imperial-v-metric Hi Pat et al, The hectare is a great, useful and easy to visualize SI unit since it's 100 x 100 m. In American terms, 100 m is the length of a football

[USMA:47174] Re: Air flight altitudes in meters

2010-04-19 Thread STANLEY DOORE
GPS provides very accurate position locations of pressure observations taken automatically by in-flight commercial aircraft worldwide. The highly accurate location of these pressures provide a very accurate analyses from which wind and other forecasts are made. These observations

[USMA:47175] Re: Solar costs

2010-04-19 Thread STANLEY DOORE
It's my understanding that a manufacturing solar panel plant is being built in Michigan that will manufacture flexible sheets of solar panels using a printing press method. This should help to reduce costs dramatically and allow covering roofs of homes and other buildings to collect

[USMA:46579] RE: NCTM Web Site Feedback

2010-02-04 Thread STANLEY DOORE
Th best way to convert to metric is to drop all non-metric units on products except for repair parts which are designed to non-metric specs. People will learn quickly. Stan Doore - Original Message - From: Stephen Humphreys To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Thursday,

[USMA:46430] Re: A spoonful of medicine

2010-01-18 Thread STANLEY DOORE
All medicines are in metric so why shouldn't liquid measurement devices be used rather than teaspoons? Stan Doore - Original Message - From: James R. Frysinger j...@metricmethods.com To: U.S. Metric Association usma@colostate.edu Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 8:48 PM

[USMA:46355] Re: A puzzle from the UAE

2010-01-02 Thread STANLEY DOORE
Litres is great and should be used exclusively. For larger volumes, kilolitre (kL) can be used. A kL is also a cubic metre. Neat isn't it? Stan Doore - Original Message - From: Martin Vlietstra To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 1:52 PM

[USMA:46238] Re: content inch pound meter gram

2009-12-02 Thread STANLEY DOORE
Right on Bill and Pat. Let's think metric! Regards, Stan Doore - Original Message - From: Pat Naughtin To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:20 AM Subject: [USMA:46237] Re: content inch pound meter gram On 2009/12/02, at 13:40 , Bill

[USMA:46232] Re: Ergs???

2009-12-01 Thread STANLEY DOORE
Citrons are OK. However, I'm on my second Toyota Prius. 2010 will be my next Prius. My first Prius (2002) which our son has well over 100,000 miles with only routine maintenance. Our current 2005 Prius has over 60,000 miles and has had only routine maintenance too. I got 51 miles

[USMA:46158] Re: USMA Treatise Response_2009-11-03

2009-11-12 Thread STANLEY DOORE
paper - 1.4 $/W large nuke, 150 $/W incremental roof top in Austin TX. My full agreement on nukes, though. Stan Jakuba . On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 3:15 PM, STANLEY DOORE stan.do...@verizon.net wrote: Most of the population of the world lives within the tropics where Sun is most

[USMA:46157] Re: USMA Treatise Response_2009-11-03

2009-11-11 Thread STANLEY DOORE
Most of the population of the world lives within the tropics where Sun is most abundant. Many people there don't have electricity or they have very little of it which is very expensive. Thin flexible solar panels on roofs of buildings can provide comparatively inexpensive energy to

[USMA:46109] Chevrolet Spark dimensions in metric

2009-11-03 Thread STANLEY DOORE
The dimensions of the new Chevrolet Spark small car were given only in metric units in a recent article in The Washington Times. The length was given as 3640 mm by 2375 mm wide with 1.0 or 1.2 liter gasoline engines. Wheel sizes were still in English units - 15 inches. The Spark

[USMA:46106] Re: Fwd: USA Science Festival tents

2009-11-02 Thread STANLEY DOORE
? If this were not so, deceptive packaging would not work so well. Jim STANLEY DOORE wrote: The Head of a major consumer group in Northern Virginia USA thirty years ago found that shoppers in grocery stores visually look at the size of the product first and not the label before purchasing. so

[USMA:46100] Re: Fwd: USA Science Festival tents

2009-11-01 Thread STANLEY DOORE
The Head of a major consumer group in Northern Virginia USA thirty years ago found that shoppers in grocery stores visually look at the size of the product first and not the label before purchasing. so it has been known for decades that dual unit labeling is not needed except for perhaps

[USMA:46050] Re: Treatise on renewable energy

2009-10-22 Thread STANLEY DOORE
Stan The paper to which you refer, (Year of Energy 2009) has some good comments like nuclear power is required to meet energy requirements for productivity and continuity purposes; however, it left out a few things. For example: 1. It didn't account for developing technology like

[USMA:46037] Re: USMA joins Twitter

2009-10-20 Thread STANLEY DOORE
Good work! Congratulations. Stan Doore - Original Message - From: Paul Trusten To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 3:51 PM Subject: [USMA:46033] USMA joins Twitter I am pleased to announce that the U.S. Metric Assocation has joined Twitter,

[USMA:46038] Re: USA Science Festival 10-10-10

2009-10-20 Thread STANLEY DOORE
Great suggestion Pat. The 10-10-10 date avoids the date format issue since 10-10-10 is good for all three formats. Stan Doore - Original Message - From: Pat Naughtin To: U.S. Metric Association Cc: USMA Metric Association ; Mitchell Sally B Sent: Monday, October

[USMA:46019] Re: U.S. football--choose your battles

2009-10-14 Thread STANLEY DOORE
approach would allow any game to be metricated, but not until the folks in charge of the rules or laws of the game are ready to undertake it. --- On Mon, 10/12/09, STANLEY DOORE stan.do...@verizon.net wrote

[USMA:46020] Re: American football fields (was FIFA )

2009-10-14 Thread STANLEY DOORE
approach would allow any game to be metricated, but not until the folks in charge of the rules or laws of the game are ready to undertake it. --- On Mon, 10/12/09, STANLEY DOORE stan.do...@verizon.net wrote: From: STANLEY DOORE stan.do...@verizon.net Subject: [USMA:46001] Re: FIFA

[USMA:46001] Re: FIFA Football Fields

2009-10-12 Thread STANLEY DOORE
is specified at 16.5 Meters to accommodate the original dimension of 18 Yards. American Football, as Stanley Doore has mentioned does have a real problem with conversion. The concept of first downs would be altered by a ten-Meters requirement, and if the fields were enlarged to 100 Meters

[USMA:46004] Re: U.S. football--choose your battles

2009-10-12 Thread STANLEY DOORE
important measurements were rounded further. I think a thoughtful approach would allow any game to be metricated, but not until the folks in charge of the rules or laws of the game are ready to undertake it. --- On Mon, 10/12/09, STANLEY DOORE stan.do...@verizon.net wrote

[USMA:45975] Re: Metric Baby

2009-10-09 Thread STANLEY DOORE
Congratulations Victor. The announcement was nice and clean metric. We need more like it. Stan Doore - Original Message - From: Victor Jockin vjoc...@hotmail.com To: U.S. Metric Association usma@colostate.edu Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 5:08 PM Subject: [USMA:45969] Metric

[USMA:45976] Re: Geelong wins national football championship

2009-10-09 Thread STANLEY DOORE
Congratulations Pat. It is my understanding that soccer fields do not have a standard size. This makes it very easy to use metric dimensions entirely. Great! Not so with US football fields which have a standard size. Performance statistics are therefore based on the yard. Stadiums

[USMA:45873] Re: Posters

2009-09-22 Thread STANLEY DOORE
...@metricationmatters.com or to get the free 'Metrication matters' newsletter go to: http://www.metricationmatters.com/newsletter to subscribe. On 2009/09/22, at 05:59 , STANLEY DOORE wrote: The KISS principle should be the basis of converting to/using metric. A simple poster showing the most used

[USMA:45870] Re: Posters

2009-09-21 Thread STANLEY DOORE
The KISS principle should be the basis of converting to/using metric. A simple poster showing the most used units, such as mass (kg) and volume (L), are most used in grocery stores. Place posters in grocery stores first. It would get to the most people very quickly. However it

[USMA:45849] Re: Weather data for solar and wind power calculations

2009-09-20 Thread STANLEY DOORE
orientation that is essentially E-W. At some future date we or our heirs could mount solar collectors on its southern face. Jim STANLEY DOORE wrote: Climatology for locating wind turbine systems is well-established and published. Similarly, climatology for solar isolation is readily

[USMA:45846] Re: Weather data for solar and wind power calculations

2009-09-19 Thread STANLEY DOORE
Climatology for locating wind turbine systems is well-established and published. Similarly, climatology for solar isolation is readily available and, it includes cloud cover as well as for clear skies. These data should be used in planning and locating energy collection systems. The

[USMA:45826] Vehicle power in SI

2009-09-18 Thread STANLEY DOORE
AutoWeekend (Sept 18) uses the SI first when telling about the Smart Fortwo Edition Highstyle car. For example it uses 52 kW/71 hp or a 62 kW/84 hp gasoline engine. It goes on to use only kW as the unit for power in the remainder of the article. That's progress. Stan Doore

[USMA:45797] 4th Annual Triathlon

2009-09-12 Thread STANLEY DOORE
The 4th Annual Nation's Triathlon will be run in Washington, DC on Sunday, 2009-09-13. It's metric. Swim - 1.5 km Bike - 40 km Run - 10 km Regards, Stan Doore

[USMA:45786] Re: 09-09-09

2009-09-09 Thread STANLEY DOORE
Hi Pat: An interesting note is that no one can be confused by the three different date formats used around the world for the specific dates you show. Regards, Stan doore - Original Message - From: Pat Naughtin To: U.S. Metric Association Cc: Mitchell Sally B Sent:

[USMA:45696] Wh/mile vs J/km

2009-08-27 Thread STANLEY DOORE
Dear Metricators: Use J/km rather than Wh/mi as some news media are beginning to use. Here's a chance for USMA and others to promote and use of the SI. What do you think? Stan Doore

[USMA:45576] Re: corrupted metric data

2009-08-10 Thread STANLEY DOORE
Reporters in the US take all kinds of liberties in reporting and the use of metric and conversion is not an exception. Moreover, reporters are not very talented in math so it's an added error factor as you all describe. Stan Doore - Original Message - From: John M. Steele

[USMA:45533] Re: centimetres vs millimetres

2009-08-06 Thread STANLEY DOORE
perfect, we can niggle about rascally details about preferred prefixes! Jim STANLEY DOORE wrote: If the cm requires a decimal point for more precision beyond 10 cm length, then mm is more practical and less confusing since it would not require a decimal point, e.g 19.5 cm = 195 mm. In any case

[USMA:45502] Re: centimetres vs millimetres

2009-08-05 Thread STANLEY DOORE
to another. How about we concentrate on getting all the folks to use metric units all the time? Once everyone is thereby near perfect, we can niggle about rascally details about preferred prefixes! Jim STANLEY DOORE wrote: If the cm requires a decimal point for more precision beyond 10 cm length

[USMA:45494] Re: centimetres vs millimetres

2009-08-04 Thread STANLEY DOORE
If the cm requires a decimal point for more precision beyond 10 cm length, then mm is more practical and less confusing since it would not require a decimal point, e.g 19.5 cm = 195 mm. In any case, mm normally would be used in most cases for lengths less than 10 cm. Stan Doore

[USMA:45478] Re: centimetre versus metre

2009-08-01 Thread STANLEY DOORE
The rule of 1000 is not at issue here for human height. Ease of use, application and standardization are. If the meter is used, a decimal point is needed to provide sufficient refinement/detail. Use of the millimeter does not require a computation since no decimal point is required.

[USMA:45474] Re: Fw: default units for height

2009-07-31 Thread STANLEY DOORE
, at 8:35 PM, STANLEY DOORE wrote: Millimeters rather than centimeters or meters should be used for the default for height. Millimeters has a number of advantages even though millimeters it may imply more precision. Use of millimeters only for height avoids complexity and confusion

[USMA:45454] Re: Fw: default units for height

2009-07-30 Thread STANLEY DOORE
Millimeters rather than centimeters or meters should be used for the default for height. Millimeters has a number of advantages even though millimeters it may imply more precision. Use of millimeters only for height avoids complexity and confusion. Meters and centimeters require a

[USMA:45457] Re: Fw: default units for height

2009-07-30 Thread STANLEY DOORE
not be used for children 999 mm. --- On Thu, 7/30/09, STANLEY DOORE stan.do...@verizon.net wrote: From: STANLEY DOORE stan.do...@verizon.net Subject: [USMA:45454] Re: Fw: default units for height To: U.S. Metric Association usma@colostate.edu Date

[USMA:45449] Re: why we have a tough sell on U.S. metrication

2009-07-27 Thread STANLEY DOORE
Right on! AFRAID together with rice bowls are the driving forces behind new ideas. Stan Doore - Original Message - From: Pat Naughtin To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 8:02 PM Subject: [USMA:45448] Re: why we have a tough sell on U.S. metrication

[USMA:45414] Re: [USMA:45394] Isaac Newton – birth mass

2009-07-17 Thread STANLEY DOORE
For swim meets only, a removable wall for turning/starting is inserted at 25 m in a 50 yard pool which was built in the 1960s. It's a real job but it works for metric. Kids ages 7-17 race. Sorry I neglected to explain this in my previous email. Stan Doore - Original Message

[USMA:45415] Re: Spelling metre or meter

2009-07-17 Thread STANLEY DOORE
Re: [USMA:45399] Spelling metre or meterSpelling is not all that important if understood in context; however using the meter spelling for a gage and the metre spelling for length/distance would be a refinement. When the SI symbol m is used, it's unambiguous. It's a similar problem as

[USMA:45377] Re: Speed in metres per second

2009-07-15 Thread STANLEY DOORE
The Soviet Union use to use metres per second for aircraft speed and for reporting wind speed. I don't know if this is still the case. Stan Doore - Original Message - From: Pat Naughtin To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:47 PM Subject:

[USMA:45392] Re: Speed in metres per second

2009-07-15 Thread STANLEY DOORE
Some sports like golf, without fixed playing field dimensions, can easily use metric units. Football has a fixed dimension filed which would create havoc with rules and statistic. Baseball on the other hand could keep its playing field the same but it could convert distances to the fence

[USMA:45352] Re: Dandyprat

2009-07-13 Thread STANLEY DOORE
Halving is nothing new since it's based on the binary system. One early king, who had many wives, used the binary system to indicate which number wife was now queen by showing his fingers on his staff during court. Stan Doore - Original Message - From: Pat Naughtin

[USMA:45290] Re: Precipitation and water needs

2009-06-29 Thread STANLEY DOORE
- From: Bill Hooper To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Saturday, 27 June 2009 15:43 Subject: [USMA:45278] Re: Precipitation and water needs On Jun 27 , at 2:56 AM, STANLEY DOORE wrote: kL is simpler to use and write. Kilolitre violates one of the simplifying

[USMA:45275] Re: Precipitation and water needs

2009-06-27 Thread STANLEY DOORE
Pat et al: I like the idea of calling a cubic metre a kilolitre (kL) in the non-scientific public world as Pat mentions. Kilolitre makes sense for every day use by the public since it doesn't require a superscript. kL is simpler to use and write. Stan Doore - Original Message

[USMA:45248] Use 62 mph

2009-06-19 Thread STANLEY DOORE
Here's an idea to promote metric. Use 62 mph (100 km/h) in the process of converting to the SI. People understand 62 mph so why not use it until real conversion takes place. It would be a subtle way for people to learn metric. I noticed the use of 62 mph in an add in Roads and

[USMA:45163] Re: NASA Going English

2009-06-01 Thread STANLEY DOORE
The continued opposition to the metric system of measurement (SI) by the United States is just another example of the continuing decline of the US. Stan Doore - Original Message - From: Carleton MacDonald To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 1:19 PM

[USMA:45147] Re: News : ADOT defends replacing metric signs along I-19 : Nogales International : Nogales, AZ

2009-05-30 Thread STANLEY DOORE
Replacing metric signs is completely understandable since it will spend stimulus funds. The object of stimulus funding is to spend money and create jobs for any project regardless of productivity or need. A purpose of stimulus funding is to put the US further into debt. Replacing

[USMA:45098] Re: Commerce Secretary Gary Locke

2009-05-23 Thread STANLEY DOORE
The entire US auto industry is and has been metric for more than two decades. Other industries have converted to metric too so they can export their products to other countries. Unfortunately, The Congress and political leaders in the US don't recognize the importance of what's going

[USMA:44882] Re: IEEE/ASTM SI-10 -- now off topic

2009-04-27 Thread STANLEY DOORE
causes confusion. Jerry From: STANLEY DOORE stan.do...@verizon.net To: jeremiahmacgre...@rocketmail.com; U.S. Metric Association usma@colostate.edu Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 9:20:43

[USMA:44854] Re: IEEE/ASTM SI-10

2009-04-25 Thread STANLEY DOORE
American English uses to and too for two different meanings. So spellings of metre and meter, and litre and liter etc.would be consistent with clearly different meanings and would improve comprehension. Stan Doore - Original Message - From: Jeremiah MacGregor To: U.S.

[USMA:44752] Re: Is this a joke or is it supposed to be serious?

2009-04-18 Thread STANLEY DOORE
Columnist Glynn Moore shows the mentality of news writers. She lacks complete understanding of the world she lives in. However, through her access to writing in a newspaper, she is able to influence the uneducated public. US pre-college students rank 13th out of 15 OCED countries,

[USMA:44753] RE: Nothing but Imperial

2009-04-18 Thread STANLEY DOORE
16, 2009 12:45 PM Subject: [USMA:44703] RE: Nothing but Imperial There is opposition to metric from those in the right who hold a goverment leave me ALONE (also known as Don't tell me what to do!) attitude, though. Carleton - Original Message - From: STANLEY DOORE stan.do

[USMA:44693] RE: Nothing but Imperial

2009-04-16 Thread STANLEY DOORE
You are mistaken Mr. Humphreys. Metric is NOT right wing as you say it is. Companies in the US are subtly converting to the SI because of the SI economic advantage - an advantage to taxpayers. It is the left who are against standardizing on the SI in the US, not the right. Stan

[USMA:44572] Re: FPLA 2010

2009-04-11 Thread STANLEY DOORE
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 10:33 PM Subject: [USMA:44561] Re: FPLA 2010 Dear Stan, In the Australian water supply industry, kilolitres, megalitres, and gigalitres are commonly used. Cheers, Pat Naughtin Geelong, Australia On 2009/04/10, at 7:40 PM, STANLEY DOORE wrote

[USMA:44505] Re: FPLA 2010

2009-04-10 Thread STANLEY DOORE
: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:39:48 -0400 From: Pierre Abbat p...@phma.optus.nu Subject: [USMA:44483] Re: FPLA 2010 To: U.S. Metric Association usma@colostate.edu On Wednesday 08 April 2009 08:32:21 STANLEY DOORE wrote: I disagree with the NIST in the case of kL because L is used widely and well known

[USMA:44550] Re: ISO date format

2009-04-10 Thread STANLEY DOORE
and sorting problems. Jerry -- From: STANLEY DOORE stan.do...@verizon.net To: U.S. Metric Association usma@colostate.edu Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2009 7:43:52 AM Subject: [USMA:44475] Re: ISO date format

[USMA:44551] Re: FPLA 2010

2009-04-10 Thread STANLEY DOORE
to give up? - Original Message - From: STANLEY DOORE stan.do...@verizon.net To: U.S. Metric Association usma@colostate.edu Sent: 09 Apr 10, Friday 05:40 Subject: [USMA:44505] Re: FPLA 2010 I am NOT advocating larger multiple units than the kL (m^3). Larger multiples than the kL

[USMA:44474] Re: FPLA 2010

2009-04-08 Thread STANLEY DOORE
] Re: FPLA 2010 On Apr 6 , at 8:18 AM, John M. Steele wrote: I know you love the kiloliter, but I personally find the cubic meter a lot easier to visual. You know, it's about 1 m x 1 m x 1 m. :) --- On Mon, 4/6/09, STANLEY DOORE stan.do...@verizon.net wrote: To go along

[USMA:44475] Re: ISO date format

2009-04-08 Thread STANLEY DOORE
in date format is a hyphen, or no separator, so, at best, they are using mutant ISO8601. --- On Mon, 4/6/09, STANLEY DOORE stan.do...@verizon.net wrote: From: STANLEY DOORE stan.do...@verizon.net Subject: [USMA:44434] ISO date format To: U.S. Metric

[USMA:44477] Re: FPLA 2010

2009-04-08 Thread STANLEY DOORE
and 100 ha, then you think about square kilometers. (Some relaxation of rules OK in tables to retain same units through a column) --- On Wed, 4/8/09, STANLEY DOORE stan.do...@verizon.net wrote: From: STANLEY DOORE stan.do...@verizon.net Subject: [USMA:44474] Re: FPLA

[USMA:44435] Re: FPLA 2010

2009-04-06 Thread STANLEY DOORE
To go along with putting L (liter) first, I suggest using the kL (kiloliter) in place of a cubic meter in non-engineering (public) usage. kL is much easier to use and is more understandable by the public. kL would be especially useful to describe river and stream flow, lake volume, etc..

[USMA:44434] ISO date format

2009-04-05 Thread STANLEY DOORE
On Sunday, a Fox News Channel clip from Prague television showed the date format of the clip as (.mm.dd) i.e. 2009.04.05 Isn't it interesting that others are moving to the ISO standard date format? Stan Doore

[USMA:43800] Re: Subject changed to speedometers and odometers

2009-03-14 Thread STANLEY DOORE
Unfortunately, the Toyota Prius does not provide the ability to convert all units to metric. Stan Doore . - Original Message - From: Norman Nancy Werling nwerl...@bellsouth.net To: U.S. Metric Association usma@colostate.edu Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 8:19 PM Subject:

[USMA:43724] Re: Date Time

2009-03-13 Thread STANLEY DOORE
compliant (although many choose to non-comply). Z (Zulu) is reserved for UTC time zone, so above could be written 2009-03-12T19:45Z. --- On Wed, 3/11/09, STANLEY DOORE stan.do...@verizon.net wrote: From: STANLEY DOORE stan.do...@verizon.net Subject: [USMA:43715] Date Time To: U.S. Metric

[USMA:43715] Date Time

2009-03-12 Thread STANLEY DOORE
This morning (2009-03-11 edt) on Fox Friends TV program, they showed a video clip from Japan of a volcano eruption which used the -mm-dd hh:ss format. I believe the content was: 2009-03-10 ??:??. It was very easy to read and understand since the data were sequential. Don't

[USMA:43669] Re: Metric personal data was Re: 24 hour time

2009-03-11 Thread STANLEY DOORE
mm or cm should be used rather than use a decimal point. mm would be preferable since all human dimensions could be in mm to avoid confusion. Obviously this would not apply to medicine. Stan Doore - Original Message - From: Pierre Abbat p...@phma.optus.nu To: U.S. Metric

[USMA:43635] Re: 24 hour time

2009-03-10 Thread STANLEY DOORE
You are correct in fostering the use of the ISO date format; however, I prefer to use a dash (-) rather than a slash (/) as a separator in the date format. For example 20009-03-10. A dash makes it better readable. Stan Doore - Original Message - From: John Frewen-Lord To:

[USMA:43636] Re: Fw: Re: Milk, was Re: USC units spread to the UK - and no-one notices!

2009-03-10 Thread STANLEY DOORE
, the net contents is printed on the label. On the supermarket milk it is stamped into the plastic container and a little hard to read unless you turn the bottle correctly. I still believe they could fill to 4 L if they wanted too. --- On Mon, 3/9/09, STANLEY DOORE stan.do...@verizon.net wrote: From

[USMA:43641] Re: USC units spread to the UK - and no-one notices!

2009-03-10 Thread STANLEY DOORE
. --- On Mon, 3/9/09, STANLEY DOORE stan.do...@verizon.net wrote: From: STANLEY DOORE stan.do...@verizon.net Subject: Re: [USMA:43487] Re: USC units spread to the UK - and no-one notices! To: jmsteele9...@sbcglobal.net, U.S. Metric Association usma@colostate.edu Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 1:37

[USMA:43667] Re: 24 hour time

2009-03-10 Thread STANLEY DOORE
The US Weather Bureau has used the mmdd format since the 1800s in its archives. Stan Doore - Original Message - From: Pat Naughtin To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 10:23 PM Subject: [USMA:43662] Re: 24 hour time On 2009/03/11, at 6:32 AM,

[USMA:43478] Re: Jerry's questions regarding imperial fuel fish sales in the UK.

2009-03-08 Thread STANLEY DOORE
The kilolitre (kL) should be used as a substitute for cubic metre in public discourse. It's the same volume as a cubic metre. Kilolitre (kL) is easier to write and its symbol is easily formed from existing SI symbols. Kilometre also is easier to speak than cubic metre and it's consistent

[USMA:43479] Re: USC units spread to the UK - and no-one notices!

2009-03-08 Thread STANLEY DOORE
I don't find pouring milk for the Costco container any more difficult to pour. Stan Doore - Original Message - From: John M. Steele To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 4:37 PM Subject: [USMA:43451] Re: USC units spread to the UK - and no-one notices!

[USMA:43481] Re: USC units spread to the UK - and no-one notices!

2009-03-08 Thread STANLEY DOORE
I've checked the volume (gallon in a 4-litre jug). I wrote the article about the new 4-litre jug in Metric Today. Costco has prepared for the conversion to selling milk in 4-litre jugs. If one goes to the USMA article, it tells and shows how much more efficient the 4-litre

[USMA:43483] RE: Mistaken blather from a correspondent on another list

2009-03-08 Thread STANLEY DOORE
Labeling patterns show be changed to show metric first. Stan Doore.. - Original Message - From: Jeremiah MacGregor To: U.S. Metric Association Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 10:13 AM Subject: [USMA:43399] RE: Mistaken blather from a correspondent on another list The

[USMA:43484] Re: SI in Auto reports

2009-03-08 Thread STANLEY DOORE
Association usma@colostate.edu Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 10:43 AM On Mar 6 , at 9:23 AM, STANLEY DOORE wrote: The New Kia No 3 concept car stars at Geneva Show article reported by Motor Matters in the March 6 issue of The Washington Times uses all metric. Great! Following are a few

[USMA:43485] Re: SI in Auto reports

2009-03-08 Thread STANLEY DOORE
in Auto reports On Mar 6 , at 9:23 AM, STANLEY DOORE wrote: The New Kia No 3 concept car stars at Geneva Show article reported by Motor Matters in the March 6 issue of The Washington Times uses all metric. Great! Following are a few examples

[USMA:43486] Re: USC units spread to the UK - and no-one notices!

2009-03-08 Thread STANLEY DOORE
; it looks like pouring could be a problem. --- On Sun, 3/8/09, STANLEY DOORE stan.do...@verizon.net wrote: From: STANLEY DOORE stan.do...@verizon.net Subject: [USMA:43479] Re: USC units spread to the UK - and no-one notices! To: U.S. Metric Association usma@colostate.edu Date: Sunday, March 8

[USMA:43584] Re: USC units spread to the UK - and no-one notices!

2009-03-08 Thread STANLEY DOORE
DOORE stan.do...@verizon.net wrote: From: STANLEY DOORE stan.do...@verizon.net Subject: [USMA:43486] Re: USC units spread to the UK - and no-one notices! To: U.S. Metric Association usma@colostate.edu Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 8:58 AM milk which must be sold by the gallon due to government laws

[USMA:43585] Re: USC units spread to the UK - and no-one notices!

2009-03-08 Thread STANLEY DOORE
-- From: STANLEY DOORE stan.do...@verizon.net To: U.S. Metric Association usma@colostate.edu Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2009 8:58:43 AM Subject: [USMA:43486] Re: USC units spread to the UK - and no-one notices! The 4 L jug is filled with a gallon of milk which must

[USMA:43360] SI in Auto reports

2009-03-06 Thread STANLEY DOORE
The New Kia No 3 concept car stars at Geneva Show article reported by Motor Matters in the March 6 issue of The Washington Times uses all metric. Great! Following are a few examples to show differences taken from the article The article uses a mixture of kph and km/h and

[USMA:43356] Re: Hydrogen vs. Batteries

2009-03-04 Thread STANLEY DOORE
Electric vehicles are much more economical and practical to implement. They are here now! The electricity infrastructure is in place but needs to be strengthened. There is no H2 infrastructure in place and it would be expensive to build to make it as convenient as electrical outlets

[USMA:43314] Re: discussion of Food Marketing Institute objections to metric-only labeling option

2009-03-01 Thread STANLEY DOORE
is shown on the printed receipt. Stan Doore - Original Message - From: Jeremiah MacGregor To: STANLEY DOORE ; U.S. Metric Association Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [USMA:43273] Re: discussion of Food Marketing Institute objections to metric-only

[USMA:43294] Re: discussion of Food Marketing Institute objections to metric-only labeling option

2009-02-28 Thread STANLEY DOORE
bother with it. It is obviously an extra expense that some stores don't want to incur. Plus it would add cost to the product. Jerry -- From: STANLEY DOORE stan.do...@verizon.net To: Jeremiah MacGregor

[USMA:43250] Re: discussion of Food Marketing Institute objections to metric-only labeling option

2009-02-24 Thread STANLEY DOORE
-- From: STANLEY DOORE stan.do...@verizon.net To: U.S. Metric Association usma@colostate.edu Cc: U.S. Metric Association usma@colostate.edu Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 4:45:13 PM Subject: [USMA:43170] Re: discussion of Food

[USMA:43251] Re: discussion of Food Marketing Institute objections to metric-only labeling option

2009-02-24 Thread STANLEY DOORE
referring to a move to rounded metric sizes or are you referring to the change in the FPLA which would allow metric only sizes even if they are not round? Jerry -- From: STANLEY DOORE stan.do...@verizon.net

[USMA:43127] Re: true metrication is systemic

2009-02-21 Thread STANLEY DOORE
-- From: STANLEY DOORE stan.do...@verizon.net To: U.S. Metric Association usma@colostate.edu Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 4:50:01 PM Subject: [USMA:43041] Re: true metrication is systemic Paul et al: Absolutely

[USMA:43128] Re: More companies primed to pounce on metric-only labeling

2009-02-21 Thread STANLEY DOORE
: STANLEY DOORE stan.do...@verizon.net To: U.S. Metric Association usma@colostate.edu Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 8:27:49 AM Subject: [USMA:43031] Re: More companies primed to pounce on metric-only labeling Road signs are an integral part of changing to metric because they are so

[USMA:43170] Re: discussion of Food Marketing Institute objections to metric-only labeling option

2009-02-21 Thread STANLEY DOORE
Consumers want to know value and that can't be done by looking at packages since manufacturers use deceptive packaging to disguise small quantities in large packages. Unit pricing in metric units only is the only way to protect consumers. This absolutely necessary. Metric only packaging will

[USMA:43171] Re: consumer education on the metric system

2009-02-21 Thread STANLEY DOORE
You are getting mixed up by using two decimal places and not using round number quantities, and consumers can't handle that. The United States is 13th out of 15 OCED (developed) countries in pre-college education. Stan Doore - Original Message - From: Jeremiah MacGregor To:

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