Mac SE no boot disk

2001-07-25 Thread Tom Brown
Help a friend just dropped a MAC SE on me and when I turn it on it ask for a floppy. Where might I find OS disks for this system? Do I have to purchase from apple or are older versions released to the public? Any suggestions for an ethernet connection for this thing? ___

Re: IIsi and Daystar Turbo040

2001-07-25 Thread Harbourmaster
>I just now finally had the opportunity to test out my IIsi with the >Turbo040, thanks to the adapter John Ruschmeyer from LEMSwap so kindly sent >me. > >As we all know, though, these things seldom go smoothly. > >When I started up the IIsi with the Turbo040 in it (on the adapter card, of >course)

Vicarious Lisas. Re: my stash of macs

2001-07-25 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Amber Rhea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have the opportunity to trade a bare bones Beige > tower for a Lisa2. I'm > > wondering if anyone thinks that's worth it. I > have 4 G3 MT's that I am gonna > > sell, but that trade > > > > -- Kyle H. Hansen > > What are you talking about?

Re: my stash of Macs

2001-07-25 Thread Jeff Garrison
-Original Message- From: Kyle Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Vintage Macs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 2:18 PM Subject: Re: my stash of Macs >I have the opportunity to trade a bare bones Beige tower for a Lisa2. I'm >wondering if anyone thinks that's worth it. I

Re: Handgun ban, personal attacks, The Power of Fear....

2001-07-25 Thread Jeff Garrison
-Original Message- From: THE ROCK <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Vintage Macs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 11:14 AM Subject: Re: Handgun ban sig, personal attacks There is no danger in a man liking guns, any more than there's a danger in him expressing his liking of God,

Re: my stash of Macs

2001-07-25 Thread Jeff Garrison
-Original Message- From: Nick Canterucci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Vintage Macs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 11:23 AM Subject: my stash of Macs >Always interesting to see other forum members >collection of Macs..Here's mine > >Lisa This one's bound to elude me fo

My List

2001-07-25 Thread Steve Conrad
512K Plus (3 working, 3 non-working) SE -> USS Reliant SE FDHD LC -> USS Oberth IIcx IIsi IIci -> Utopia Planitia (my main machine) Performa 40 5 -> USS Voyager Performa 450 Quadra 605 My external HDs are DS9, USS Yorktown, USS Enterprise and USS Defiant (all are down at this time unfortunately)

WAS - Re: Handgun ban sig

2001-07-25 Thread Desert Fox
I never said that life would be the same. But I do have a IIfx (runs 24/7 as Eudora Email server), 2 IIcx (also running various server software), a WGS 60, Quadra 650, 2 Mac II sitting on a shelf waiting for a job to do, 4 Mac SE, an SE/30, 2 Performa 475 (both running MacDNS 24/7), Quadra 635CD

Later, people (I can't take it anymore)

2001-07-25 Thread bthaler
Bye. I am a longtime lurker of this list, gleaning much needed help from other people's common vintage mac problems. Lately though, this list has become more of an arena for stupid flame wars than aything remotely related to vintage macs. As a result, I fucking sick and tired of burning my band

Re: Most stable OS

2001-07-25 Thread Andrew W. Hill
>At 12:20 PM -0700 7/25/2001, Kyle Hansen wrote: >> > I'm still trying to find out what a -671 error is. >> >>-671 is a "connection proccesses" error usually associated with an Open >>Transport crash. > >1) Where can I find a list of error codes and what they mean? Install MACSBug. Or rath

Re: Handgun ban sig, personal attacks

2001-07-25 Thread Andrew W. Hill
> > >> They are TEMPTATIONS. People on a worldwide internet list (or anywhere, for >> that matter) need to be mature enough to control themselves >> >Religion and Wayne Gretzky last week. Guns this week. So far so not good >in the self control dept. >> >> Seems like a bit of an extreme step.

Re: my stash of Macs

2001-07-25 Thread Andrew W. Hill
128k 512k 512ke Plus (11) SE (6) Mac II Mac IIx Mac SEx Mac IIfx Mac IIcx (possible dead logic board) Mac IIci (3) Mac IIsi (5) Mac IIvx (2) Mac Classic (13) LC LCII (3) LCIII LC475 Quadra 605 Performa 636 Performa 636CD PowerMac 6100 (3 in parts) Performa 6116 (in parts) PowerMac 7100/220 PowerMa

Re: my stash of macs

2001-07-25 Thread Amber Rhea
> I have the opportunity to trade a bare bones Beige tower for a Lisa2. I'm > wondering if anyone thinks that's worth it. I have 4 G3 MT's that I am gonna > sell, but that trade > > -- Kyle H. Hansen What are you talking about? Hell yeah that's a good trade! Maybe not for the guy losing t

Sigs Re: Handgun ban sig, personal attacks

2001-07-25 Thread Andrew W. Hill
> > ?!?!?!? Blah! #@%&%! An agent of Dark Side, and a dangerous one without >> morals that is! >> > >What does any of this have to do with the guy's "morals" or lack thereof ? >He may be a Republican, which is regrettable IMHO, but he's young and maybe >he'll come around. Changing a server fro

Re: my stash of Macs

2001-07-25 Thread RomRider
> > I do however love my mac LC with 10 megs ram and an ethernet card... & > > system 7.5.3 although i'd like to find the update to 7.5.5 as I hear it has > > open transport built right in. > > You would *REALLY* love it with System 7.1 -- much quicker and easier on > RAM demands. You would, howe

Errors on the Mac (was Re: Most stable OS)

2001-07-25 Thread the pickle
At 20:29 -0400 on 25/07/01, Steve Moody wrote: >At 12:20 PM -0700 7/25/2001, Kyle Hansen wrote: >> > I'm still trying to find out what a -671 error is. >> >>-671 is a "connection proccesses" error usually associated with an Open >>Transport crash. > > 1) Where can I find a list of error codes

stash of macs pt 2

2001-07-25 Thread Nick Canterucci
I have a original Lisa...with the twin 'twiggy' floppy drivesLast year, I was hanging around an apple dealer, talking about Lisa's..when one of the techs asked me if I really liked em..I said, heck YEAH! He had me bring my car around to the back, and help me load three LISAS into my car..a fi

Re: Most stable OS

2001-07-25 Thread Steve Moody
At 12:20 PM -0700 7/25/2001, Kyle Hansen wrote: > > I'm still trying to find out what a -671 error is. > >-671 is a "connection proccesses" error usually associated with an Open >Transport crash. 1) Where can I find a list of error codes and what they mean? 2) One thing I'll never underst

Apology to the List

2001-07-25 Thread Paul Stamsen
At 11:04 am -0600 7/25/01, regarding Handgun ban sig, Paul Stamsen penned: -> I wrote the questions to see if anyone would like to think about the -> sig and discuss it, not to generate heat. ->I have taken it to M2M: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; -> ->Sorry for the initial mis-posting, but if

Re: Handgun ban sig

2001-07-25 Thread Steve Moody
At 11:10 AM -0600 7/25/2001, Desert Fox wrote: >If they take away our Macs, we can get by. If they take away our guns, we >will all perish in tyranny. How could life be the same without our Macs? Maybe YOU can get by without your Mac, but I'd rather not try. -- http://homepage.mac.com

Re: Handgun ban sig

2001-07-25 Thread Chris the Listnanny(tm)
At 18:39 -0400 on 25/07/01, Christopher J. Wood wrote: >>Marten van de Kraats wrote: >> >>> Last night I had a look at this bloke's (Chris Wood) homepage. >> > http://cs.hbg.psu.edu/~cjw152/ >>> >>> Although the pride flag is prominently displayed on the page, he >>>hasn't got >>> much to be

Re: my stash of Macs

2001-07-25 Thread Kyle Hansen
the pickle wrote: > At 14:21 -0700 on 25/07/01, Kyle Hansen wrote: > > >Amber Rhea wrote: > > > >> > Lisa > >> > >> Would that be a Lisa 1 or a Lisa 2? Either way, I'm jealous... > > > >I have the opportunity to trade a bare bones Beige tower for a Lisa2. I'm > >wondering if anyone thinks that

Re: Handgun ban sig

2001-07-25 Thread Christopher J. Wood
>Marten van de Kraats wrote: > >> Last night I had a look at this bloke's (Chris Wood) homepage. > > http://cs.hbg.psu.edu/~cjw152/ >> >> Although the pride flag is prominently displayed on the page, he hasn't got >> much to be proud about, on the contrary. > > not $64 ph chris? maybe. lol > L

Re: IIsi and Daystar Turbo040

2001-07-25 Thread the pickle
At 18:13 -0400 on 25/07/01, Amber Rhea wrote: >When I started up the IIsi with the Turbo040 in it (on the adapter card, of >course) and the cache attached, all I got was a "sputtering" noise from the >Mac, and some fast blinking from the green power LED. I removed the Turbo040 >card and adapter e

Re: my stash of Macs

2001-07-25 Thread the pickle
At 15:04 -0700 on 25/07/01, Gene Osburn wrote: >> From: "RomRider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: my stash of Macs >> Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 13:25:59 -0600 >> >> I do however love my mac LC with 10 megs ram and an ethernet card... & >> system 7.5.3 although i'd like to find the update to 7.5

IIsi and Daystar Turbo040

2001-07-25 Thread Amber Rhea
I just now finally had the opportunity to test out my IIsi with the Turbo040, thanks to the adapter John Ruschmeyer from LEMSwap so kindly sent me. As we all know, though, these things seldom go smoothly. When I started up the IIsi with the Turbo040 in it (on the adapter card, of course) and th

Re: my stash of Macs

2001-07-25 Thread Gene Osburn
> From: "RomRider" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: my stash of Macs > Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 13:25:59 -0600 > > I do however love my mac LC with 10 megs ram and an ethernet card... & > system 7.5.3 although i'd like to find the update to 7.5.5 as I hear it has > open transport built right in.

Re: my stash of Macs

2001-07-25 Thread the pickle
At 14:21 -0700 on 25/07/01, Kyle Hansen wrote: >Amber Rhea wrote: > >> > Lisa >> >> Would that be a Lisa 1 or a Lisa 2? Either way, I'm jealous... > >I have the opportunity to trade a bare bones Beige tower for a Lisa2. I'm >wondering if anyone thinks that's worth it. I have 4 G3 MT's that I am

browsers and email on vintage Macs (was Re: Most stable OS)

2001-07-25 Thread Amber Rhea
on 7/25/01 4:21 PM, (Vintage Macs) at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> I prefer IE and Outlook Express. I've had almost no problems with crashes. I >> used to use Netscape for web and email but I actually had more problems with >> Netscape than with M$ (sad to say). >> > > And you run these prog

Re: my stash of Macs

2001-07-25 Thread Kyle Hansen
Amber Rhea wrote: > > Lisa > > Would that be a Lisa 1 or a Lisa 2? Either way, I'm jealous... I have the opportunity to trade a bare bones Beige tower for a Lisa2. I'm wondering if anyone thinks that's worth it. I have 4 G3 MT's that I am gonna sell, but that trade -- Kyle H. Hansen Ra

Re: my stash of Macs

2001-07-25 Thread Amber Rhea
> Lisa Would that be a Lisa 1 or a Lisa 2? Either way, I'm jealous... > my girlfriend thinks I've gone off the DEEP END... :) We moved to a two-bedroom apartment to accomodate all our computers (okay, so most of them are MY computers!) But now I'm starting to think we need THREE bedrooms! --

Re: manufacture date Re: fx termination

2001-07-25 Thread Kyle Hansen
the pickle wrote: > Considering that the IIfx was made from 1990-1992 or thereabouts, finding a > serial number starting with 4 is probably pretty unlikely, but then I would > guess Kyle was just giving an example :) Bingo! We have a winner. That serial was just an example taken from a Perfo

Re: manufacture date Re: fx termination

2001-07-25 Thread Kyle Hansen
Gregg Eshelman wrote: > > That could also be 1994. :) > > DOH! 1984... Nine-Teen Eighty-Four. I was wondering what you were talking about. Yes. It could also be 1984, but it wasn't a Plus so you have to use a process of elimination to figure it out. I *know* your smart enough to know what y

Re: manufacture date Re: fx termination

2001-07-25 Thread the pickle
At 13:50 -0700 on 25/07/01, Gregg Eshelman wrote: >> > I can tell you how to decode it on an old model. >> > The first character or 2 >> > are letters. It/they denote the plant that the >> Mac >> > was made in. The next >> > digit is the last # of the year, and the following >> 2 >> > digits ar

Re: manufacture date Re: fx termination

2001-07-25 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Gregg Eshelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- Kyle Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Gregg Eshelman wrote: > > > > > Unfortunately they > > > didn't put any easily identifiable marking on > the > > > logic boards or anywhere else to tell which are > > > the revised ones. :

manufacture date Re: fx termination

2001-07-25 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- Kyle Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Gregg Eshelman wrote: > > > Unfortunately they > > didn't put any easily identifiable marking on the > > logic boards or anywhere else to tell which are > > the revised ones. :P Someone had a website with > > a Mac serial number decoder so you c

Re: Most stable OS

2001-07-25 Thread Chris the Listnanny(tm)
At 20:40 +1000 on 25/07/01, Darren wrote: >Very off topic, please excuse me. Maybe this tread will help some body. At least you realise it's off-topic. Now that you realise that, how about you take it offlist as you've (that's a collective you) been asked to do once already? Sorry if this soun

Re: LCIII type 28 error

2001-07-25 Thread the pickle
At 22:03 -0700 on 24/07/01, Jeff Garrison wrote: >-Original Message- >From: the pickle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Vintage Macs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 2:12 PM >Subject: Re: LCIII type 28 error > > >>At 12:43 -0400 on 24/07/01, Chelley Vician wrote: >>Methinks FWB a

Re: LCIII type 28 error

2001-07-25 Thread the pickle
At 23:10 -0400 on 24/07/01, Chelley Vician wrote: >You might want to know that once I changed the PRAM battery, and then re-set >Control Panels, my Type 28 error went away. Ergo, in a strange way, this >error WAS due to the failed PRAM battery. Let me explain I'm still curious why an extern

Re: Handgun ban sig

2001-07-25 Thread Chris the Listnanny(tm)
This still isn't any more on-topic than it was last night. Take it off the list immediately. I will start banning people if I have to, if only temporarily, just to show that we're serious about this. Dan and I aren't going to censor people's signature files; the rest of you will just have to de

Re: fx termination

2001-07-25 Thread Kyle Hansen
Gregg Eshelman wrote: > Unfortunately they > didn't put any easily identifiable marking on the > logic boards or anywhere else to tell which are > the revised ones. :P Someone had a website with > a Mac serial number decoder so you could tell when > your Mac was built, I can tell you how to de

Re: fx termination

2001-07-25 Thread Kyle Hansen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > IMHO the special fx terminator isn't needed for short distances. > SCSI is specified to work over a long distance that most of us never > encounter. Longer distances require more ideal termination (i.e. impedance > matching). > My fx has always worked fine with standa

Re: fx termination

2001-07-25 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Scott Barber wrote: > >Does the black terminator used for external SCSI > devices with the MacIIfx > >have a green led? > >I'm being given one, and want to use the correct > terminator... > > IMHO the special fx terminator isn't needed for > short distances. > SCSI

Re: fx termination

2001-07-25 Thread gamba
Scott Barber wrote: >Does the black terminator used for external SCSI devices with the MacIIfx >have a green led? >I'm being given one, and want to use the correct terminator... IMHO the special fx terminator isn't needed for short distances. SCSI is specified to work over a long distance that mo

Re: my stash of Macs

2001-07-25 Thread Robert Poland
>I do however love my mac LC with 10 megs ram and an ethernet card... & >system 7.5.3 although i'd like to find the update to 7.5.5 as I hear it has >open transport built right in. I see the 7.5.5 update mentioned on http://lowendmac.com/macos.shtml. -- - Bob Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out

7.7.5 update. Re: my stash of Macs

2001-07-25 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- RomRider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > just a brief defence of 486 machines, I am a mac fan > but I also have several > 486 machines that are quite useful... The only thing > you need in an old 486 > to make it useful is lots of ram, if you can squeeze > 32 megs or more in you > can run a nice

Re: my stash of Macs

2001-07-25 Thread RomRider
just a brief defence of 486 machines, I am a mac fan but I also have several 486 machines that are quite useful... The only thing you need in an old 486 to make it useful is lots of ram, if you can squeeze 32 megs or more in you can run a nice distro of linux... I do however love my mac LC with 1

Re: Most stable OS

2001-07-25 Thread Kyle Hansen
Gregg Eshelman wrote: > I'm still trying to find out what a -671 error is. -671 is a "connection proccesses" error usually associated with an Open Transport crash. Kyle H. Hansen -- "Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?" George W. Bush -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by <

Re: Handgun ban sig, personal attacks

2001-07-25 Thread Michael J. Flaherty
> > They are TEMPTATIONS. People on a worldwide internet list (or anywhere, for > that matter) need to be mature enough to control themselves > Religion and Wayne Gretzky last week. Guns this week. So far so not good in the self control dept. > > Seems like a bit of an extreme step. If this

Vintage Macs, Handguns, and Signatures

2001-07-25 Thread Dan Knight
First reminder -- this is the VINTAGE Macs list. It's for Macs with 68030 and earlier processors. By the once-removed rule, you can discuss '040-based Macs here if you're not on the Quadra list. This is not a Power Mac list. We run three different lists for different classes of Power Macs. The

Re: Most stable OS

2001-07-25 Thread Marten van de Kraats
> >I prefer IE and Outlook Express. I've had almost no problems with crashes. I >used to use Netscape for web and email but I actually had more problems with >Netscape than with M$ (sad to say). > And you run these programs on a 68030 mac? Marten -- -

Re: Handgun ban sig

2001-07-25 Thread Paul Stamsen
I founbd out the correct address for M2M is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry for the mis-information, but if anyone wants to discuss it, that's where I'll be. - /\ oPaul <>< \__/ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Co-Conspirator to make the world a better place... Find out about HeroicStorie

my stash of Macs

2001-07-25 Thread Nick Canterucci
Always interesting to see other forum members collection of Macs..Here's mine Lisa 128k 512k ( runs great soon to be parts donor for 128k ) Plus SE dual 800k with HD SE FDHD SE/30 Classic Classic II Color classic ( upgraded with 550 MB, soon to have 575 MB ) Quadra 700 Quadra 840AV Quad

Re: Handgun ban sig, personal attacks

2001-07-25 Thread THE ROCK
Amber Rhea wrote: > on 7/25/01 1:37 PM, (Vintage Macs) at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Political and religiously provocative sigs are powerful temptations for > > people to blast others. They are easily more powerful than most people's > > desire to stay on > Seems like a bit of an extreme s

Re: Handgun ban sig, personal attacks

2001-07-25 Thread Amber Rhea
on 7/25/01 1:37 PM, (Vintage Macs) at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Political and religiously provocative sigs are powerful temptations for > people to blast others. They are easily more powerful than most people's > desire to stay on They are TEMPTATIONS. People on a worldwide internet list (or a

Re: Most stable OS

2001-07-25 Thread Amber Rhea
on 7/25/01 1:37 PM, (Vintage Macs) at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I really don't use it very much. Acutally, I hate it. But with all this > nasty comment about Netscape I thought I'd try it for a while and see if IE > & Express worked better (fewer crashes while working in apps) than Netscape. > F

Re: fx termination

2001-07-25 Thread Gregg Eshelman
Sounds like an active terminator, which should work better than the "Special Black" IIfx one. Termination power must be provided to the bus, either by the host adaptor (Mac) or one of the drives to use an active terminator. Its generally not a good idea to have more than two devices providing term

Re: Handgun ban sig, personal attacks

2001-07-25 Thread Marten van de Kraats
> >What does any of this have to do with the guy's "morals" or lack thereof ? >He may be a Republican, which is regrettable IMHO, but he's young and maybe >he'll come around. Changing a server from UNIX to NT was part of his job. >Should he have resigned in protest ? Yep. Consider Microsoft just

A funny search result for Error -671. :)

2001-07-25 Thread Gregg Eshelman
I've been trying to find out what the heck a Mac Error -671 is, so I popped "Error -671" (use the quotes) into http://www.dogpile.com Scroll down to where it says Are you looking for: One of the suggestions is Bill Gates Home. LOL! Now I know what is causing Error -671. All that FUD from Redmond

Re: fx termination

2001-07-25 Thread Desert Fox
My Mac IIfx terminator is black with no green light. -- Paul/. 95 black 3000GT VR-4 98 VFR800F, TBR aluminum hi exit formerly reasonable and prudent on 7/25/01 10:15, Scott Barber at [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled: > I tried to post this question the other day, but it hasn't appeared on the

Re: Handgun ban sig

2001-07-25 Thread Desert Fox
If they take away our Macs, we can get by. If they take away our guns, we will all perish in tyranny. -- Paul/. 95 black 3000GT VR-4 98 VFR800F, TBR aluminum hi exit formerly reasonable and prudent Too many (hand)guns to count!!! on 7/25/01 11:04, Paul Stamsen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled:

Handgun ban sig

2001-07-25 Thread Paul Stamsen
I wrote the questions to see if anyone would like to think about the sig and discuss it, not to generate heat. I have taken it to M2M:[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sorry for the initial mis-posting, but if anyone wants to argue with me on it, that's where I'll be. - /\ o

Handgun ban sig, personal attacks

2001-07-25 Thread Michael J. Flaherty
Listen "nanny" don't you have anything better to do like wash behind your ears before you have your milk and cookies before your bedtime? >> >> In any case, the nanny is a nanny for the reason. It would logically >> seem to me that he is here to keep things in check. Perhaps next >>

fx termination

2001-07-25 Thread Scott Barber
I tried to post this question the other day, but it hasn't appeared on the last two digests, here it is again: Does the black terminator used for external SCSI devices with the MacIIfx have a green led? I'm being given one, and want to use the correct terminator... tia, scb -- Scott Barber <[EMA

Re: RAM Charger

2001-07-25 Thread Randy Beaudreault
>Who all here uses RAM Charger? >OK, how many RAM Charger users also own a non >Vintage Mac with OS 8.5 through 9.1? > >Of course you know that using RAM Charger on >OS 8.5 or 8.6 is a bit "iffy" and it doesn't >work on 9.x. > >Sooo, now that work on the "classic" Mac OS has been >terminated (supp

Re: Most stable OS

2001-07-25 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- David Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Regarding Pagmaker 6.5, it crasher quite frequently > on it's on. I beginning > to wonder if I should have stayed with my old friend > Pagemaker 6.0. PM 6.5 > crashed this morning as I was attempting to run > Outlook Express. > David Its always so m

Re: Most stable OS

2001-07-25 Thread Marten van de Kraats
You might consider using Eudora, by far the best e-mail app, that I know of, and there are nice 68k versions available. In my experience Netscape runs much nicer on 68030 macs than IE. Netscape 2.02 is the fastest, but on a IIfx Netscape 3 and 4 work pretty well. IE is dog slow. You might conside

Re: Most stable OS

2001-07-25 Thread Cameron Kaiser
> I really don't use it very much. Acutally, I hate it. But with all this > nasty comment about Netscape I thought I'd try it for a while and see if IE > & Express worked better (fewer crashes while working in apps) than Netscape. > Frankly, I prefer Netscape. But if it's as buggy as everyone see

Re: Most stable OS

2001-07-25 Thread David Robinson
I really don't use it very much. Acutally, I hate it. But with all this nasty comment about Netscape I thought I'd try it for a while and see if IE & Express worked better (fewer crashes while working in apps) than Netscape. Frankly, I prefer Netscape. But if it's as buggy as everyone seems to th

Re: Most stable OS

2001-07-25 Thread Marten van de Kraats
>Regarding Pagmaker 6.5, it crasher quite frequently on it's on. I beginning >to wonder if I should have stayed with my old friend Pagemaker 6.0. PM 6.5 >crashed this morning as I was attempting to run Outlook Express. >David > How very interesting. Nice of you to share this with us. Personally, I

Re: Handgun ban sig

2001-07-25 Thread Darren
Marten van de Kraats wrote: > Last night I had a look at this bloke's (Chris Wood) homepage. > http://cs.hbg.psu.edu/~cjw152/ > > Although the pride flag is prominently displayed on the page, he hasn't got > much to be proud about, on the contrary. not $64 ph chris? maybe. lol -- Vintage M

Re: Most stable OS

2001-07-25 Thread David Robinson
Regarding Pagmaker 6.5, it crasher quite frequently on it's on. I beginning to wonder if I should have stayed with my old friend Pagemaker 6.0. PM 6.5 crashed this morning as I was attempting to run Outlook Express. David -- >From: Darren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Vint

Re: Handgun ban sig

2001-07-25 Thread Amber Rhea
Look, let's not get into another one of *these* kind of threads. It's distracting and it divides listmembers. This particular thread is especially off-topic since Dan Knight has made it clear repeated times that things in people's sigs are their business and are to be left alone on the list. --

Re: Handgun ban sig

2001-07-25 Thread Marten van de Kraats
>> >Listen "nanny" don't you have anything better to do like wash behind >> >your ears before you have your milk and cookies before your bedtime? > >In any case, the nanny is a nanny for the reason. It would logically >seem to me that he is here to keep things in check. Perhaps next >time I se

Re: Handgun ban sig

2001-07-25 Thread Andrew W. Hill
> >Listen "nanny" don't you have anything better to do like wash behind > >your ears before you have your milk and cookies before your bedtime? In any case, the nanny is a nanny for the reason. It would logically seem to me that he is here to keep things in check. Perhaps next time I see a

Re: Most stable OS

2001-07-25 Thread Darren
Very off topic, please excuse me. Maybe this tread will help some body. I hope. Not my words but those that may come David Robinson wrote: > The problem with that is that my crashes usually occur only when working. For > example, I may be using Pagemaker 6.5, and/or Photoshop 5.5, with Netscape

RAM Charger.

2001-07-25 Thread Gregg Eshelman
Who all here uses RAM Charger? OK, how many RAM Charger users also own a non Vintage Mac with OS 8.5 through 9.1? Of course you know that using RAM Charger on OS 8.5 or 8.6 is a bit "iffy" and it doesn't work on 9.x. Sooo, now that work on the "classic" Mac OS has been terminated (supposedly) Ap

Re: Self crashing apps. Re: Most Stable OS

2001-07-25 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- James S Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is one of the advantages of Netscape on the > classic Mac OS. Any > application creates it's own memory partition and > only the most remarkably > buggy apps will overwrite another app's partition > (maybe something not "32-bit > clean"?). Netsca

Re: Wierd old external hard drive... any ideas on how to power it up?

2001-07-25 Thread Mike Evans
I dared to try powering the HD off the floppy port of the Plus, using that odd cable that fitted both ends, and it worked great! Thanks to everyone for their comments on- and off-list... Mike Evans -- Vintage Macs is sponsored by and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://w

Re: Self crashing apps. Re: Most Stable OS

2001-07-25 Thread James S Jones
This is one of the advantages of Netscape on the classic Mac OS. Any application creates it's own memory partition and only the most remarkably buggy apps will overwrite another app's partition (maybe something not "32-bit clean"?). Netscape and some others go one step further. Once it has a parti

Corrupt files on CP MacTools floppy

2001-07-25 Thread SaulBro
I recently acquired Central Point MacTools v.2, and found that a couple of the files on Disk #5, the 1.44mb Optimizer Startup Disk, are corrupt, and that the disk has bad blocks which are unrepairable. If anyone has this, I'd sure appreciate your e-mailing me a Disk #5 disk image. Thanks!

Re: Most Stable OS

2001-07-25 Thread Steve Moody
At 8:57 PM -0500 7/24/2001, David Robinson wrote: >Very, Very sorry, tell me which list I should go to. Subscribe here: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://homepage.mac.com/stmoody/ http://www.13idol.com/mac/macfacts.html Handgun crime in Britain has increased more than 40% since the handgu

Re: Handgun ban sig

2001-07-25 Thread Steve Moody
At 6:14 PM -0600 7/24/2001, Paul Stamsen wrote: >-> Handgun crime in Britain has increased more than 40% since the >-> handgun ban of 1997. > >What percent of the crimes were violations of the ban? Violent crime, not violations. > IOW, did the *ban* cause the crimes? Who said the b