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2013-10-09 Thread Rose Combs
06, 2013 3:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Raul, I doubt it, iClean overwrites already deleted space with jibberish and basically fills up your phone, at the end you get a message that

RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-08 Thread Mike Cassidy
m: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Paganelli Sent: 07 October 2013 21:08 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Actually, I'm running an iPhone 4 with 32 GB. iOS 7

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-07 Thread Alan Paganelli
ctober 04, 2013 3:11 PM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi, First, since I’m running an iPhone 5, and its 32GB, this doesn’t really affect me. But, if I was running an iPhone 4, with 16 or even 8GB, I think this would real

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
Hi: Does such a program exist for a Windows based system? Also although a bit slow 7.2 works acceptably fine with a 4. 6.2 was also slow with the 4 but I didn't hear anyone complaining about that. On 10/6/13, Eileens Misrahi wrote: > Hi Cara, > > Thanks for the explanation. I'll take a look, as I

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Eileens Misrahi
Hi Cara, Thanks for the explanation. I'll take a look, as I am one of those who want to keep the older phone on 1.6.2. It would be nice to get back 3 GB on this phone. Luckily, I still have plenty of storage. Thanks again for supplying the link in your message. Best, Eileen Sent from my iPh

RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hey, here's a thought, would running an app like iClean help with this? Does the iOS 7 updates get stored in the Other section of the phone's disc space so that an a

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Cara Quinn
HI Eileen, iExplorer is an app which runs on your Mac, which allows you to see your phone's file system and move files to and from it. My thought was that perhaps it might allow people to remove the unwanted OS download from their phone to free up the space they need. Now, I have no idea wheth

RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Eileen Misrahi
: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cara Quinn Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. For Mac users, there is an app called

RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Ron Pelletier
of their IOs developers? Why? - Original Message - From: "Ron Pelletier" To: Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 12:51 AM Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. > Hi, > > My question is: Why are people in su

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Cara Quinn
llegos" > > To: > Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:11 AM > Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing > iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. > > >> Hi, a bit late on this. Doing too much iPhone training, which I'm not >> co

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I want a phone that's a convenience not a chore. I use a computer and don't tinker much. This looks like a decided step backwards. - Original Message ----- From: "Neal Ewers" To: Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 10:08 AM Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Ap

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Troy Sullivan
@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Petraccaro Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 11:24 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Only one person said that it downl

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Troy Sullivan
devices. . - Original Message - From: "Raul A. Gallegos" To: Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:11 AM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi, a bit late on this. Doing too much iPhone training, which I'm

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
uot;Raul A. Gallegos" To: Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:11 AM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi, a bit late on this. Doing too much iPhone training, which I'm not complaining about . I don't believe ther

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2013-10-06 Thread Pablo Morales
much. Now, if in the newer versions of iPhone takes around 2 seconds, I would like to know, why? The new things of IOs 7 is enough to make slower the phones? maybe the graphic appearance? - Original Message - From: "Troy Sullivan" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 5:40 PM S

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! ----- Original Message ----- From: "

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2013-10-06 Thread Terje Strømberg
ber 2013 7:43 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 > holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. > > Hi Cara, > > I think there are many millions of users out there who will probably > disagree. I listened to the

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2013-10-06 Thread Mary Otten
Jonathan, I really appreciate your posts on this topic. I'm not so sure about consumer laws protecting U.S. consumers in this instance. I admit that I, like 99.9% of other users, did not read all that legal stuff that you agree to when accepting a software license. I have certainly written Apple

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-05 Thread Pablo Morales
From: "Ron Pelletier" To: Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 12:51 AM Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi, My question is: Why are people in such a hurry to download and install a new product? Isn&

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-05 Thread Christopher Chaltain
e not a chore. I use a computer and don't tinker much. This looks like a decided step backwards. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neal Ewers" To: Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 10:08 AM Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upg

RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-05 Thread Ron Pelletier
com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Petraccaro Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 11:24 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Only one person said that it downloaded and loaded. The rest of

RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-05 Thread Ron Pelletier
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 9:25 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Pablo, you might consider

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-05 Thread Dawn Petty
rom: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:25 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Pablo, you might consider the glass of wa

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-05 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, Yeah. I pointed out most of what you mentioned below. But, being able to work with something doesn’t mean that it will work well. I mean, I remember Windows XP minimum requirements were a joke. Maybe, you could get a machine running with Microsofts posted minimum requirements but, I dou

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-05 Thread Dawn Petty
ld like to know, why? The new things of IOs 7 is enough to make slower the phones? maybe the graphic appearance? ----- Original Message - From: "Troy Sullivan" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 5:40 PM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 hold

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-05 Thread Regina Alvarado
;t like that it downloaded and is taking up that space. Donna tcors...@cfl.rr.com -Original Message- From: Regina Alvarado Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2013 10:17 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgra

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-05 Thread tcorson2
wnloaded and is taking up that space. Donna tcors...@cfl.rr.com -Original Message- From: Regina Alvarado Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2013 10:17 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. I

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2013-10-05 Thread Dawn Petty
as of this writing, I still have the encrypted backup I made just before my upgrade. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: "Chris H" To: Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 2:49 PM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-05 Thread Regina Alvarado
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:25 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Pablo, you might consider the glass of water analogy. Is it half-e

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2013-10-05 Thread Christopher Chaltain
If we're talking about IOS 7 then the comparison has to be with an iPhone 4 running IOS 7 versus the same iPhone 4 running IOS 6. Of course the new iPhone 5s will perform better with IOS 7 than an iPhone 4. the same was true with IOS 6. I myself am running IOS 7 on an iPhone 4S, and I don't not

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2013-10-05 Thread Pablo Morales
name to the list of people who is expecting a solution for the iPhone 4, What will be the solution? He doesn't know. - Original Message - From: "Sieghard Weitzel" To: Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 10:56 PM Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple no

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2013-10-05 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, Maybe it depends on your level of expectations, and perception. I thought IOS 6 on an iPhone 4 was slow. I’ve used an iPhone 4 with IOS 7, and found it really, really, slow. haha. I mean, the hardware is three and a half years old, has 512MB of RAM, 1 core, etc. And we are now talking

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2013-10-04 Thread James Mannion
I agree with this. Yes there are some bugs, yes there have been bugs in every new version. I have been running IOS 7 since release date, intentionally ignoring the list so as not to hear just on and on about how terrible it is. My own experience has been that it has been like other early versions o

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2013-10-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Ricardo, I understand Pablo's frustration to some degree. However, Pablo has an iPhone 5 and an iPhone 4 and he chose, and "chose" is the important word here, to upgrade both devices to iOS 7. He complained just as much a year ago when he upgraded from iOS 5 to iOS 6 which is why Raul posted wh

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2013-10-04 Thread Jonathan Mosen
t;>> Move out. Get a job. Pay your bills wile you still know everything. >>> >>> Please click on: >>> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ >>> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on >>> the Yamaha

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2013-10-04 Thread Ricardo Walker
>> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on >> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my >> >> website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! >> >> ----- Original Message

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2013-10-04 Thread Pablo Morales
r we want, if we want. - Original Message - From: "Christopher Chaltain" To: Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 3:35 PM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. One thing to keep in mind here is that you didn't buy a

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2013-10-04 Thread Christopher Chaltain
sen.org> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> *Sent:* Friday, October 04, 2013 12:24 PM *Subject:* Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi everyone, I have a lot more sympathy fo

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2013-10-04 Thread David Chittenden
t when ever we want, if we want. > - Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Chaltain" > To: > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 3:35 PM > Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 > holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. > > >> One t

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2013-10-04 Thread Pablo Morales
install it when ever we want, if we want. - Original Message - From: "Christopher Chaltain" To: Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 3:35 PM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. One thing to keep in mind here is

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <http://googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Gary Petraccaro Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:24 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com &l

RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Petraccaro Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:24 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Only one person

RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
o:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:25 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Pablo, you might consider the glass of water analogy. Is it hal

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Gary Petraccaro
From: "Neal Ewers" To: Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 10:08 AM Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Raul. Nice post, and a question. Are there any ways in which Apple would load a new iOS without someone pressing the

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2013-10-04 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
> website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! > > - Original Message ----- > From: "Pablo Morales" > To: > Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 1:43 AM > Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 > > holdouts to upg

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Alan Paganelli
ent: Friday, October 04, 2013 1:43 AM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Well, it could be ridiculous for you. Even though, when I see that the IOs is downloaded automatically to my iPhone, without my agreement, and it is

RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Neal Ewers
riday, October 04, 2013 8:25 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Pablo, you might consider the glass of water analogy. Is it half-empty for you or half-full for you? Are you a half-empty thinker

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2013-10-04 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
f my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" To: "viphone" Sent: Wednesday, October 0

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Pablo Morales
website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" To: "viphone" Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:44 PM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-03 Thread Pete Nalda
pon request. Thanks for listening! >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ricardo Walker" >> To: "viphone" >> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:44 PM >> Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 &g

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2013-10-03 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
s in Technics format formerly on my > > website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! > > - Original Message - > From: "Ricardo Walker" > To: "viphone" > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:44 PM > Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-03 Thread Alan Paganelli
"viphone" Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:44 PM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi, I haven’t seen apps take 5 seconds to open on an iPhone 4S using IOS 7. Is it slower than my iPhone 5? Yes. But,

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2013-10-03 Thread Dawn Petty
, September 27, 2013 1:59 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi all, I too am using an iPod Touch 5th gen, and I don't feel any of the temporary bugs in the IOS7 are impacting my use of my d

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2013-10-03 Thread Pablo Morales
also very bad, but they can not force us to update our devices. - Original Message - From: "Sieghard Weitzel" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 10:12 PM Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Pa

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2013-10-02 Thread Ricardo Walker
From: "Troy Sullivan" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 5:40 PM > Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 > holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. > > >> On my 4s, I notice apps take about 5 seconds to load, not right away, it &

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2013-10-02 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
o: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Also, 5 seconds is too much. We have to use the iPhone when we are on the streets, when we are going to the store, when we get a ride, and we need the gps, So 5

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2013-10-02 Thread Pablo Morales
IOs 7 is enough to make slower the phones? maybe the graphic appearance? - Original Message - From: "Troy Sullivan" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 5:40 PM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. O

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2013-10-02 Thread Rick Alfaro
al Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Duck Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2013 3:18 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Guys, Yeah, my sighte

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2013-10-02 Thread Troy Sullivan
2, 2013 2:03 PM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Agreed. Apps took under five seconds to load on a 4, but under two on a 4s. So over half the time is cut between each phone. E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmai

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2013-10-02 Thread Scott Duck
e ugly OS. LOL. Thanks, Scott Duck -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cristóbal Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2013 2:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 hold

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2013-10-02 Thread Cristóbal
: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 5:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Wow, nice sexist comments here

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2013-10-02 Thread Chris H
Agreed. Apps took under five seconds to load on a 4, but under two on a 4s. So over half the time is cut between each phone. E-mail Facebook and iMessage christopher...@gmail.com On 02/10/2013 13:47, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: Apps are taking up to 50 seconds to start running? Hmm, that sounds li

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2013-10-02 Thread Mike Arrigo
ber 30, 2013 10:07 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Well Joseph, as a woman, let me say once again, that this OS is still ugly! lol! Just because we're female doesn't mean we auto

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2013-10-02 Thread Jonathan Mosen
t; the user of electronics matures and grows out of the curiosity and simply >> wants something that works--this is where Apple steps in. >> >> Joseph >> >> ----- Original Message - >> From: "Ron Pelletier" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, September 30

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2013-10-02 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
nd simply wants something that works--this is where Apple steps in. Joseph - Original Message - From: "Ron Pelletier" To: Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 7:52 PM Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Ca

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2013-10-02 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Apps are taking up to 50 seconds to start running? Hmm, that sounds like you need to restore and start over. Even if iOS runs slower on older phones, apps won't take 50 seconds to start up. i just can't buy that. -- Raul A. Gallegos Oh I'm not arguing, I'm simply explaining why I'm right. - She

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2013-10-01 Thread Mike Reiser
as told that the contrast is horrible and >> the font is just as bad. >> >> >> >> I am total so I don't really care but I have to say that this is not what I >> was expecting from Apple. >> >> >> >> Ron & Danvers >> >>

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2013-10-01 Thread Joseph FreeTech
1, 2013 7:20 PM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Cait, If I were going to get the 5C, I'd definitely get the pink one! :) IN fact, I wish the 5S came in colors! I actually like the feel of the 5C better than the 5S

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2013-10-01 Thread Cara Quinn
> Falling down is part of LIFE... > > Getting back up is LIVING... > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Cara Quinn > Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 1:51 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: About iO

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-01 Thread Cara Quinn
13 10:07 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Well Joseph, as a woman, let me say once again, that this OS is still ugly! lol! Just because we're female doesn't mean we automatically lik

RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-01 Thread BroxiBear
m: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cara Quinn Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 10:07 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Well Joseph, as a woman, let me say once a

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-01 Thread Ricardo Walker
were going after >>> new >>> female iPhone users. The teenagers are probably Android users as young >>> males >>> are more likely to want to tinker with the OS and hardware. ...At some >>> point >>> the user of electronics matures and grows ou

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-01 Thread Scott Davert
of the curiosity and simply >> >> wants something that works--this is where Apple steps in. >> >> Joseph >> >> - Original Message - >> From: "Ron Pelletier" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 7:52 PM >> Subject: RE:

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-01 Thread Cait and Maggie
t; - Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Pelletier" > To: > Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 7:52 PM > Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 > holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. > > > Hi Cara, > > > > Funny y

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-01 Thread Ricardo Walker
Quinn > Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 10:07 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 > holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. > > Well Joseph, as a woman, let me say once again, that this OS is still ugly! > lol! &

RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-09-30 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
nt: Monday, September 30, 2013 10:07 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Well Joseph, as a woman, let me say once again, that this OS is still ugly! lol! Just because we're female

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-09-30 Thread Cara Quinn
eps in. Joseph - Original Message - From: "Ron Pelletier" To: Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 7:52 PM Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Cara, Funny you should say that. I was told The very same thing a coupl

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-09-30 Thread Jonathan Mosen
ikely to want to tinker with the OS and hardware. ...At some >> point >> the user of electronics matures and grows out of the curiosity and simply >> wants something that works--this is where Apple steps in. >> >> Joseph >> >> - Original Message -

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-09-30 Thread Joanne Chua
>> was expecting from Apple. >> >> >> >> Ron & Danvers >> >> >> >> >> >> Falling down is part of LIFE... >> >> Getting back up is LIVING... >> >> >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [m

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-09-30 Thread Christopher Chaltain
ups.com>] On Behalf Of Cara Quinn Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 1:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Unfortunately, I must agree with the assertion t

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-09-30 Thread Joseph FreeTech
tions. Joseph - Original Message - From: "Jonathan Mosen" To: Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 9:00 PM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Sir Jonathan Ives is quite definitely male, and he's the pers

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-09-30 Thread Jonathan Mosen
n. > > Joseph > > - Original Message - > From: "Ron Pelletier" > To: > Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 7:52 PM > Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 > holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. > > > Hi Cara, &

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-09-30 Thread Joseph FreeTech
oseph - Original Message - From: "Ron Pelletier" To: Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 7:52 PM Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Cara, Funny you should say that. I was told The very same thing a

RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-09-30 Thread Ron Pelletier
etting back up is LIVING... From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cara Quinn Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 1:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-09-30 Thread Chris H
ubject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. You wrote: "In short I feel that there is absolutely no reason why somebody who has an iPhone 4, 4S or 5 shouldn't upgrade." My reply: I find IOS7 to

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-09-30 Thread Pablo Morales
15 PM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. You wrote: "In short I feel that there is absolutely no reason why somebody who has an iPhone 4, 4S or 5 shouldn't upgrade." My reply: I find

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-09-30 Thread Aman Singer
Hi, Chris. Sorry, I ought to have, in the last message, dealt with physical security issues like those fixed in the latest 7.02. I didn't because I don't think that sort of security is very important. If you've lost physical control over your phone, to paraphrase a group of security rules I read so

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-09-30 Thread Teresa Cochran
Yes, my husband fits the category of not being legally-blind, yet having to use a magnifier to read some fonts and sizes of print. He was singularly not impressed with the new look. He says he'd have to hold the iPod very close to his eyes to see the "translucent' effects. Not so good. Teresa O

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-09-29 Thread Cara Quinn
Unfortunately, I must agree with the assertion that 7 is just plain ugly. A number of sighted friends have described the 'new' look, each in their own way, (as well as their difficulties with using it) and it just seems to me that for whatever reason, Apple just essentially abandoned all the ups

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-09-29 Thread gregoryscott
You wrote: "In short I feel that there is absolutely no reason why somebody who has an iPhone 4, 4S or 5 shouldn't upgrade." My reply: I find IOS7 to be ugly and hard to read. The improved functionality does not add enough to overcome my dislike of the new design. I kn

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-09-29 Thread Mary Otten
hings work better with my Bluetooth to >>>> hearing aid bridge. For someone who doesn't use such a bridge but who's >>>> like >>>> me in everything else, it may not be worth it. For someone who hates the >>>> old >>>> app switcher, it may

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-09-29 Thread Mary Otten
gt; reduce the quality, if other things raise it, the update is fine. As it >>>>>> stands, I think the question is whether iOS 7 is better for any >>>>>> particular >>>>>> user than iOS 6.x. That's something each user will have to determine for

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-09-29 Thread Cara Quinn
other things raise it, the update is fine. As it >>>>>> stands, I think the question is whether iOS 7 is better for any >>>>>> particular >>>>>> user than iOS 6.x. That's something each user will have to determine for >>>>>> himself

RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-09-29 Thread Ron Pelletier
com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 1:17 AM To: viphone Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi, Sure. But if only 10% of all devices are running IOS 6 in say 3 months, wh

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-09-29 Thread Christopher Chaltain
n Behalf Of Pablo Morales Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 4:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Well, I just have a complain about Ios 7. It makes my iPhone 4, a old iPhone of 16Gb, a little bit

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-09-29 Thread Aman Singer
t;>>>> stands, I think the question is whether iOS 7 is better for any >>>>>> particular >>>>>> user than iOS 6.x. That's something each user will have to determine for >>>>>> himself, and it's something which is specific t

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-09-29 Thread Pablo Morales
evice? , - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" To: Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 1:29 PM Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7. Hi Susan, I can't answer your question about iOS 7, because I h

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-09-29 Thread Aman Singer
t may not be worth it. For someone who hates the old >> app switcher, it may be great, and for someone who loves the way mail is >> displayed in the old mail program it may be horrible... You get the idea. >> Aman >> --Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-09-29 Thread David Chittenden
gt;>>>> himself, and it's something which is specific to him. That is, iOS 7 is >>>>> worth the upgrade to me because things work better with my Bluetooth to >>>>> hearing aid bridge. For someone who doesn't use such a bridge but who's >

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-09-29 Thread Ricardo Walker
for any >>>>>> particular user than iOS 6.x. That's something each user will have >>>>>> to determine for himself, and it's something which is specific to >>>>>> him. That is, iOS 7 is worth the upgrade to me because things work >>&g

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